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The 5 bucks last season were still the best 5 bucks ever spent. Do we know the casters yet? I guess Whiplash plus somebody?
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Actually, as far as casters go.
We know that Whiplash will be casting.
Who are other available casters with no long-term casting gigs? Nathanias would be one, but he already said Kespa was not really happy with his piggyback casting he did before. Another one would be Gretorp, that would imo make sense. Can't think of anyone else really, unless someone like Idra or would consider moving to KR.
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On December 13 2013 12:21 Ammanas wrote:
Actually, as far as casters go.
We know that Whiplash will be casting.
Who are other available casters with no long-term casting gigs? Nathanias would be one, but he already said Kespa was not really happy with his piggyback casting he did before. Another one would be Gretorp, that would imo make sense. Can't think of anyone else really, unless someone like Idra or would consider moving to KR.
It's not Gretorp, he won't be in esports.
DOA or Chobra are good guesses. Just thought maybe it was confirmed by now.
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It's that time again. Time to put on my team logo :D
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I bet everyone here is excited just to see the teams play again. However I am more excited to see what new maps the KeSPA map makers will produce. Last year was crazy and a much needed breath of fresh air, hoping for them to continue the tradition.
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After all the trades most of the teams are fairly even at the moment.
Currently ranking them like so:
1 SKT1
2 JinAir
3 MVP
4 IM
5 Samsung
6 KT
7 CJ
8 Prime
But given how little we've seen of most of the korean players in proleague it's so hard to predict. I believe the Fantasy Proleague will be pretty random at first  . Sooooo looking forward to this, even tho STX is dead!
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On December 13 2013 02:16 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 01:32 StarStruck wrote:On December 12 2013 23:55 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 12 2013 23:30 Larkin wrote:
Can people actually watch this? It was so good last season, but no one watches... What do you mean ? He's talking out of his butt. Let me explain something for those who like to bitch and moan about viewership. Compared to every other bush league out there and the GSTL the numbers are similar across the board. Why do I pay attention to the actual numbers myself? So I can kibosh people like Larkin every time they try to get smart. The numbers really are no different on this website when it comes to western teams playing against each other with TB to SKT versus CJ in PL, which is quite remarkable because it shows consistency in such events. It doesn't matter if it's foreigners. It doesn't matter if it's Koreans or necessarily the time of the event. People will tune it to watch and the key thing to note here is across the board the numbers are almost identical. It's so miniscule it's not worth noting. I know TB said he brings in a few thousand more people because of his viewer base and this is true for things like the ATC, but it's not a significant impact. Actually iirc the highest western views Proleague ever got was when I casted it with Mr Bitter. Also EGTL always got the highest views in Proleague when they played, so the argument that foreign owned teams somehow don't bring in more eyeballs is nonsense.
Would love to hear your voice again in casting. i watched a lot of tournaments lately but i couldn't find one with you (i missed Shoutcraft because Asus Rog).
it would be cool to have you in PL. (even if a lot of people dislike your casting, i just love how vivid it is).
On December 13 2013 03:59 Pontius Pirate wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 03:48 Gen.Rolly wrote:On December 13 2013 01:56 Radicalness wrote:
I didn't read every comment yet but am I the only one who liked Whiplash and Super Nova Maniac?
They brought energy and excitement imo. I loved the "Geeeeegeeeeeeeeeee" every time someone won a match and SPM always had a ton of cool facts even if he did stumble on his fluidity at times. I thought they did a great job overall. They were my favorite casters because of the sheer energy and respect they brought to Proleague. While I was never satisfied with his casting during Proleague, I actually found Whiplash to be much improved by the time he co-casted WCS KR s2 with Doa. They've become one of my favorite pairs. Actually, Doa + jester is almost always my favorite pair. I miss him with Catzpajamas.
What happened to Catz ? He was cool too, i loved his voice. Seems an eternity that i didn't hear it. Did i just miss it or did he stopped ?
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On December 13 2013 02:16 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 01:32 StarStruck wrote:On December 12 2013 23:55 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 12 2013 23:30 Larkin wrote:
Can people actually watch this? It was so good last season, but no one watches... What do you mean ? He's talking out of his butt. Let me explain something for those who like to bitch and moan about viewership. Compared to every other bush league out there and the GSTL the numbers are similar across the board. Why do I pay attention to the actual numbers myself? So I can kibosh people like Larkin every time they try to get smart. The numbers really are no different on this website when it comes to western teams playing against each other with TB to SKT versus CJ in PL, which is quite remarkable because it shows consistency in such events. It doesn't matter if it's foreigners. It doesn't matter if it's Koreans or necessarily the time of the event. People will tune it to watch and the key thing to note here is across the board the numbers are almost identical. It's so miniscule it's not worth noting. I know TB said he brings in a few thousand more people because of his viewer base and this is true for things like the ATC, but it's not a significant impact. Actually iirc the highest western views Proleague ever got was when I casted it with Mr Bitter. Also EGTL always got the highest views in Proleague when they played, so the argument that foreign owned teams somehow don't bring in more eyeballs is nonsense.
Can't disagree with that, but I don't think that's going to be a big factor this season. As long as their production value improves, this season, the viewership should be higher than last season.
For the record though, I watched pretty much all of the matches last season except the EGTL matches. I'm a foreigner, but that crap doesn't get me hyped.
I root for my favorite players, many of which are foreigners, but not because they are foreigners. I'm not a drone =P
I have more of my favorite players on KeSPA teams than I do anywhere else.
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On December 13 2013 19:45 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 02:16 TotalBiscuit wrote:On December 13 2013 01:32 StarStruck wrote:On December 12 2013 23:55 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 12 2013 23:30 Larkin wrote:
Can people actually watch this? It was so good last season, but no one watches... What do you mean ? He's talking out of his butt. Let me explain something for those who like to bitch and moan about viewership. Compared to every other bush league out there and the GSTL the numbers are similar across the board. Why do I pay attention to the actual numbers myself? So I can kibosh people like Larkin every time they try to get smart. The numbers really are no different on this website when it comes to western teams playing against each other with TB to SKT versus CJ in PL, which is quite remarkable because it shows consistency in such events. It doesn't matter if it's foreigners. It doesn't matter if it's Koreans or necessarily the time of the event. People will tune it to watch and the key thing to note here is across the board the numbers are almost identical. It's so miniscule it's not worth noting. I know TB said he brings in a few thousand more people because of his viewer base and this is true for things like the ATC, but it's not a significant impact. Actually iirc the highest western views Proleague ever got was when I casted it with Mr Bitter. Also EGTL always got the highest views in Proleague when they played, so the argument that foreign owned teams somehow don't bring in more eyeballs is nonsense. Would love to hear your voice again in casting. i watched a lot of tournaments lately but i couldn't find one with you (i missed Shoutcraft because Asus Rog). it would be cool to have you in PL. (even if a lot of people dislike your casting, i just love how vivid it is). Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 03:59 Pontius Pirate wrote:On December 13 2013 03:48 Gen.Rolly wrote:On December 13 2013 01:56 Radicalness wrote:
I didn't read every comment yet but am I the only one who liked Whiplash and Super Nova Maniac?
They brought energy and excitement imo. I loved the "Geeeeegeeeeeeeeeee" every time someone won a match and SPM always had a ton of cool facts even if he did stumble on his fluidity at times. I thought they did a great job overall. They were my favorite casters because of the sheer energy and respect they brought to Proleague. While I was never satisfied with his casting during Proleague, I actually found Whiplash to be much improved by the time he co-casted WCS KR s2 with Doa. They've become one of my favorite pairs. Actually, Doa + jester is almost always my favorite pair. I miss him with Catzpajamas. What happened to Catz ? He was cool too, i loved his voice. Seems an eternity that i didn't hear it. Did i just miss it or did he stopped ?
I think he does other content for blizz now, he did some casting in season 2/1 of wcs am.
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On December 13 2013 20:48 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 19:45 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 02:16 TotalBiscuit wrote:On December 13 2013 01:32 StarStruck wrote:On December 12 2013 23:55 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 12 2013 23:30 Larkin wrote:
Can people actually watch this? It was so good last season, but no one watches... What do you mean ? He's talking out of his butt. Let me explain something for those who like to bitch and moan about viewership. Compared to every other bush league out there and the GSTL the numbers are similar across the board. Why do I pay attention to the actual numbers myself? So I can kibosh people like Larkin every time they try to get smart. The numbers really are no different on this website when it comes to western teams playing against each other with TB to SKT versus CJ in PL, which is quite remarkable because it shows consistency in such events. It doesn't matter if it's foreigners. It doesn't matter if it's Koreans or necessarily the time of the event. People will tune it to watch and the key thing to note here is across the board the numbers are almost identical. It's so miniscule it's not worth noting. I know TB said he brings in a few thousand more people because of his viewer base and this is true for things like the ATC, but it's not a significant impact. Actually iirc the highest western views Proleague ever got was when I casted it with Mr Bitter. Also EGTL always got the highest views in Proleague when they played, so the argument that foreign owned teams somehow don't bring in more eyeballs is nonsense. Would love to hear your voice again in casting. i watched a lot of tournaments lately but i couldn't find one with you (i missed Shoutcraft because Asus Rog). it would be cool to have you in PL. (even if a lot of people dislike your casting, i just love how vivid it is). On December 13 2013 03:59 Pontius Pirate wrote:On December 13 2013 03:48 Gen.Rolly wrote:On December 13 2013 01:56 Radicalness wrote:
I didn't read every comment yet but am I the only one who liked Whiplash and Super Nova Maniac?
They brought energy and excitement imo. I loved the "Geeeeegeeeeeeeeeee" every time someone won a match and SPM always had a ton of cool facts even if he did stumble on his fluidity at times. I thought they did a great job overall. They were my favorite casters because of the sheer energy and respect they brought to Proleague. While I was never satisfied with his casting during Proleague, I actually found Whiplash to be much improved by the time he co-casted WCS KR s2 with Doa. They've become one of my favorite pairs. Actually, Doa + jester is almost always my favorite pair. I miss him with Catzpajamas. What happened to Catz ? He was cool too, i loved his voice. Seems an eternity that i didn't hear it. Did i just miss it or did he stopped ? I think he does other content for blizz now, he did some casting in season 2/1 of wcs am.
Oh so he's still there That's nice to hear.
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On December 13 2013 01:49 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 01:44 SoFrOsTy wrote:On December 13 2013 01:39 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 01:38 SoFrOsTy wrote:
So weird that there is no Woongjin... So what are Soulkey and sOs doing? I am surprised s different kespa team didn't pick them up. I don't know if there's a KespA team that can afford both. It would be awesome if they went to KT though. Imagine sOs and Soulkey being practice partners with Flash... Omg. I would have to cheer for sOs though... KT definitly needs players. Flash is the only one that succeed (and it's relative FOR NOW) but even Chintoss and CrazyHydra are far behind. Maybe they are practicing like madmen to tear up PL. I really hope so !
Especially when  BarrackS,  Cacia, Crazy, HoeJJa,  Motive, Puzzle and PenguiN seemed to leave the team.
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On December 13 2013 20:57 DiMano wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 01:49 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 01:44 SoFrOsTy wrote:On December 13 2013 01:39 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 01:38 SoFrOsTy wrote:
So weird that there is no Woongjin... So what are Soulkey and sOs doing? I am surprised s different kespa team didn't pick them up. I don't know if there's a KespA team that can afford both. It would be awesome if they went to KT though. Imagine sOs and Soulkey being practice partners with Flash... Omg. I would have to cheer for sOs though... KT definitly needs players. Flash is the only one that succeed (and it's relative FOR NOW) but even Chintoss and CrazyHydra are far behind. Maybe they are practicing like madmen to tear up PL. I really hope so ! Especially when BarrackS, Cacia, Crazy, HoeJJa, Motive, Puzzle and PenguiN seemed to leave the team.
Uh ?
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Well KT still has Stats, Zest and TY/Baby with Flash, so I think they can do decent.
And Action but he was pretty bad towards the end of last Proleague.
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On December 13 2013 20:58 Keeemy wrote:
Well KT still has Stats, Zest and TY/Baby with Flash, so I think they can do decent.
And Action but he was pretty bad towards the end of last Proleague.
But... I don't see any news from the others. They are not gone. Are they ? I'm like hitting F5 like a madman.
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On December 13 2013 20:58 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 20:57 DiMano wrote:On December 13 2013 01:49 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 01:44 SoFrOsTy wrote:On December 13 2013 01:39 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 01:38 SoFrOsTy wrote:
So weird that there is no Woongjin... So what are Soulkey and sOs doing? I am surprised s different kespa team didn't pick them up. I don't know if there's a KespA team that can afford both. It would be awesome if they went to KT though. Imagine sOs and Soulkey being practice partners with Flash... Omg. I would have to cheer for sOs though... KT definitly needs players. Flash is the only one that succeed (and it's relative FOR NOW) but even Chintoss and CrazyHydra are far behind. Maybe they are practicing like madmen to tear up PL. I really hope so ! Especially when BarrackS, Cacia, Crazy, HoeJJa, Motive, Puzzle and PenguiN seemed to leave the team. Uh ?
All players above did not attend any event sicne OSL prelims and there is no mention of any of them here
http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=100708
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On December 13 2013 21:03 DiMano wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 20:58 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 20:57 DiMano wrote:On December 13 2013 01:49 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 01:44 SoFrOsTy wrote:On December 13 2013 01:39 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 01:38 SoFrOsTy wrote:
So weird that there is no Woongjin... So what are Soulkey and sOs doing? I am surprised s different kespa team didn't pick them up. I don't know if there's a KespA team that can afford both. It would be awesome if they went to KT though. Imagine sOs and Soulkey being practice partners with Flash... Omg. I would have to cheer for sOs though... KT definitly needs players. Flash is the only one that succeed (and it's relative FOR NOW) but even Chintoss and CrazyHydra are far behind. Maybe they are practicing like madmen to tear up PL. I really hope so ! Especially when BarrackS, Cacia, Crazy, HoeJJa, Motive, Puzzle and PenguiN seemed to leave the team. Uh ? All players above did not attend any event sicne OSL prelims and there is no mention of any of them here http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=100708
I don't speak Korean 
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On December 13 2013 21:04 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 21:03 DiMano wrote:On December 13 2013 20:58 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 20:57 DiMano wrote:On December 13 2013 01:49 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 01:44 SoFrOsTy wrote:On December 13 2013 01:39 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 01:38 SoFrOsTy wrote:
So weird that there is no Woongjin... So what are Soulkey and sOs doing? I am surprised s different kespa team didn't pick them up. I don't know if there's a KespA team that can afford both. It would be awesome if they went to KT though. Imagine sOs and Soulkey being practice partners with Flash... Omg. I would have to cheer for sOs though... KT definitly needs players. Flash is the only one that succeed (and it's relative FOR NOW) but even Chintoss and CrazyHydra are far behind. Maybe they are practicing like madmen to tear up PL. I really hope so ! Especially when BarrackS, Cacia, Crazy, HoeJJa, Motive, Puzzle and PenguiN seemed to leave the team. Uh ? All players above did not attend any event sicne OSL prelims and there is no mention of any of them here http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=100708 I don't speak Korean
You need only this part
스타2 SK텔레콤 T1 대 KT 롤스터 라이벌 매치에서 경기를 보고 싶은 KT 롤스터 선수는?
주성욱(프로토스) - Zest
김대엽(프로토스) - Stats
전태양(테란) - TY
김성대(저그) - Action
고인빈(저그) - hitmaN
박숭(테란) - Miso
김명식(프로토스) - MyuNgSiK
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On December 13 2013 21:11 DiMano wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 21:04 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 21:03 DiMano wrote:On December 13 2013 20:58 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 20:57 DiMano wrote:On December 13 2013 01:49 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 01:44 SoFrOsTy wrote:On December 13 2013 01:39 FFW_Rude wrote:On December 13 2013 01:38 SoFrOsTy wrote:
So weird that there is no Woongjin... So what are Soulkey and sOs doing? I am surprised s different kespa team didn't pick them up. I don't know if there's a KespA team that can afford both. It would be awesome if they went to KT though. Imagine sOs and Soulkey being practice partners with Flash... Omg. I would have to cheer for sOs though... KT definitly needs players. Flash is the only one that succeed (and it's relative FOR NOW) but even Chintoss and CrazyHydra are far behind. Maybe they are practicing like madmen to tear up PL. I really hope so ! Especially when BarrackS, Cacia, Crazy, HoeJJa, Motive, Puzzle and PenguiN seemed to leave the team. Uh ? All players above did not attend any event sicne OSL prelims and there is no mention of any of them here http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=100708 I don't speak Korean You need only this part 스타2 SK텔레콤 T1 대 KT 롤스터 라이벌 매치에서 경기를 보고 싶은 KT 롤스터 선수는? 주성욱(프로토스) - Zest 김대엽(프로토스) - Stats 전태양(테란) - TY 김성대(저그) - Action 고인빈(저그) - hitmaN 박숭(테란) - Miso 김명식(프로토스) - MyuNgSiK
What!? No FLASH!?
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