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GSL Finals Retrospective Part 1: #23 - #8 - Page 6

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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 12 2013 08:22 GMT
#101
On December 12 2013 14:41 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 12:24 Dodgin wrote:
On December 12 2013 12:17 bo1b wrote:
I hope mvp vs squirtle isn't #1. It's got to be the most over hyped series ever, the "game" that most people talk about was like a 40min no rush into archon toilet, and then mvp won a series by squirtle choking like crazy and waltzing out his base too early.


Like 5 of the games were good, I liked them all except 1 and 4. That contain on Dual Sight, the epic macro game on Entombed Valley.

epic macro? the one where squirtle misrallied like 5 immortals into mvp's base? none of the games were particularly good save the vortex for novelty and the last one due to tension.


5 immortals? I think you're exaggerating there optown
Cold-Blood
Profile Joined March 2010
United States200 Posts
December 12 2013 08:23 GMT
#102
Fruitdealer/Rainbow 15 very well written, couldn't have said it better myself
Forever and Always #1 YellOw fan.
kisoso
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria105 Posts
December 12 2013 08:38 GMT
#103
For some reason DRG was never GSL champion to be reminded of. His performance varied so much (along the lower-mid level) but only the few finals he got into made him recognized but not nearly as much in HotS and the last days of WoL. For me even Sniper stood out more with his single good (yep, late-WoL zerg) performance, made a girl cry and vanished into the nothingness.
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
December 12 2013 08:51 GMT
#104
Genius is so smart. Love him!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
December 12 2013 08:55 GMT
#105
I don't believe that Fionn wrote this.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 12 2013 09:04 GMT
#106
On December 12 2013 10:12 packrat386 wrote:
Mvp vs Squirtle better be #1. Dat G7

AND game 5. AND the fact Mvp went up 3-0, then Squirtle tied 3-3, then both players won game 7 like three times before Mvp put the nail in the coffin. yup, gotta be #1. MMA vs DRG gonna be very high up too though i bet.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 09:11:29
December 12 2013 09:10 GMT
#107
Amazing article! I (obviously) think jjakji vs Leenock is the best finals, but I feel a case could be made for DongRaeGu vs MMA as well. If only DongRaeGu would've made the full comeback...

I didn't like Mvp vs Squirtle that much. Obviously the archon toilet was epic and game seven nailbiting, but otherwise it was very meh.

Your writing is great Fionn!
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hipo
Profile Joined November 2010
France482 Posts
December 12 2013 09:19 GMT
#108
Jjakji vs Leenock is obviously #1. Best TvZ of WOL by far imo. Don't know how many times I watched those VOD :D
DRG vs MMA was amazing too, but mainly because of the storyline and of the last game.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
December 12 2013 09:39 GMT
#109
If Mvp vs Squirtle is not number one I will be sad

RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
December 12 2013 09:53 GMT
#110
MMA VS DRG Game 7 Blizzard Cup for #1
Someone call down the Thunder?
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 12 2013 09:57 GMT
#111
On December 12 2013 18:04 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 10:12 packrat386 wrote:
Mvp vs Squirtle better be #1. Dat G7

AND game 5. AND the fact Mvp went up 3-0, then Squirtle tied 3-3, then both players won game 7 like three times before Mvp put the nail in the coffin. yup, gotta be #1. MMA vs DRG gonna be very high up too though i bet.


Game6 on Dual Break. That nailbiter tankpush.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
December 12 2013 10:06 GMT
#112
Even though Mvp vs Squirtle is #1 to me and probably the majority of people (Seems so based on votes and general forum dicussions?), since this is Fionn the #1 will probably be either Jjakji/Leenock or DRG/MMA. Which isn't a bad (Or wrong) choice really. Most would probably agree those are top 3.

It's a really great article, but I can't help but feel like we're waiting for the really meaty part still!
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
December 12 2013 10:15 GMT
#113
I'd say:
7. MMA/Mvp - fairly anticlimactic tbh.
6. Life/Mvp - also pretty meh.
5. Soulkey/Innovation - good storylines, underdogs, etc, quality of play not brilliant.
4. Jjakji/Leenock - Awesome play but very little for storylines.
3. Mvp/Squirtle - pretty awesome all around in story/gameplay
2. DRG/MMA - awesome storyline, awesome gameplay, tense as fuck.
1. Marineking/Nestea - without a doubt the best storyline in sc2 ever, sensational final game.

But Marineking/Nestea won't come first because it's the most under-rated finals ever. This is also the power rank that put Roro/Symbol and Sniper/Hyun above Mvp/TOP, so...
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 12 2013 10:19 GMT
#114
Always forgetting about Hyun playing Code S. I think that guy is really being underestimated.
HYRULE15
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany72 Posts
December 12 2013 10:32 GMT
#115
cant wait to read the next part, really good job Fionn!
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2055 Posts
December 12 2013 10:33 GMT
#116
I thought fionn was dead and buried judging from his presence in the last six months.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 12 2013 10:38 GMT
#117
On December 12 2013 19:15 Yonnua wrote:
I'd say:
7. MMA/Mvp - fairly anticlimactic tbh.
6. Life/Mvp - also pretty meh.
5. Soulkey/Innovation - good storylines, underdogs, etc, quality of play not brilliant.
4. Jjakji/Leenock - Awesome play but very little for storylines.
3. Mvp/Squirtle - pretty awesome all around in story/gameplay
2. DRG/MMA - awesome storyline, awesome gameplay, tense as fuck.
1. Marineking/Nestea - without a doubt the best storyline in sc2 ever, sensational final game.

But Marineking/Nestea won't come first because it's the most under-rated finals ever. This is also the power rank that put Roro/Symbol and Sniper/Hyun above Mvp/TOP, so...

Sniper vs HyuN was wayyyy better than Mvp/TOP. That final was awful 1 sided stomp outside of game 1. Sniper vs HyuN was actually fairly good and back and forth
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 10:45:33
December 12 2013 10:40 GMT
#118
On December 12 2013 17:38 kisoso wrote:
For some reason DRG was never GSL champion to be reminded of. His performance varied so much (along the lower-mid level) but only the few finals he got into made him recognized but not nearly as much in HotS and the last days of WoL. For me even Sniper stood out more with his single good (yep, late-WoL zerg) performance, made a girl cry and vanished into the nothingness.




Can't imagine how you came to that conclusion. DRG was fairly hyped around mid-2011 and finally established himself as a top-tier player from the 2011 Blizzard Cup to like Summer 2012 where his Busan dream died twice, and then Rain stole his OSL.

Maybe its just because he only won once, but he earned his respect at the top and held the title of best zerg and player for a couple of months. Mainly by owning foreign events and being arguably the best GSTL player ever.

I mean if nothing else, DRG's gsl win could be considered something that was a long time coming. A hyped player that finally lived up to the buzz.
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 12 2013 10:54 GMT
#119
On December 12 2013 19:40 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 17:38 kisoso wrote:
For some reason DRG was never GSL champion to be reminded of. His performance varied so much (along the lower-mid level) but only the few finals he got into made him recognized but not nearly as much in HotS and the last days of WoL. For me even Sniper stood out more with his single good (yep, late-WoL zerg) performance, made a girl cry and vanished into the nothingness.




Can't imagine how you came to that conclusion. DRG was fairly hyped around mid-2011 and finally established himself as a top-tier player from the 2011 Blizzard Cup to like Summer 2012 where his Busan dream died twice, and then Rain stole his OSL.

Maybe its just because he only won once, but he earned his respect at the top and held the title of best zerg and player for a couple of months. Mainly by owning foreign events and being arguably the best GSTL player ever.

I mean if nothing else, DRG's gsl win could be considered something that was a long time coming. A hyped player that finally lived up to the buzz.


Oh god... That was actually the most scary part of his dominance. So amazing when he got that first allkill and then ogsMC called him out on Crevasse and DRG just busted the best and most aggressive player of his time.
Biggest victim of BL/Infestor... From being the only Zerg able to compete with Code S Terrans to a medicro Code S player.
uThermal
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
December 12 2013 11:05 GMT
#120
Amazing list, I only think Rain vs Soulkey should be higher thanks alot!
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