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GSL Finals Retrospective Part 1: #23 - #8 - Page 3

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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 12 2013 02:26 GMT
#41
Hype, significance and storyline matter a little bit more than game quality since most of them were bops anyway
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 12 2013 02:28 GMT
#42
On December 12 2013 11:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 11:19 DRTnOOber wrote:
Best game of all time is Scarlett VS Bomber in Redbull Battlegrounds.


I don't even think that was the best Scarlett game...this year even.

Dream vs Scarlett alone was better in ATC finals imo.


If we count WoL, Gumiho vs Losira on Akilon wins with Taeja vs Innovation on Newkirk being an extremely close second. Then it drops off dramatically.
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Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
December 12 2013 02:31 GMT
#43
On December 12 2013 11:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 11:16 Popkiller wrote:
On December 12 2013 11:04 TheDougler wrote:
On December 12 2013 10:36 Bagration wrote:
Well, by including the Blizzard Cup, you've already spoiled what the best finals is.

There is absolutely no question: Blizzard Cup 2011 had the best finals of Starcraft 2. There is absolutely no comparison.


This just isn't true, friend. Yes, it was something unique in SC2: Two great rivals actually having an AMAZING seven game series against eachother, especially at the end of the year. But in the end, it was really just one game, granted, it was a game that epitomized an era, but it was a finals of ONE GAME. No, it falls short of Mvp vs Squirtle, which not only was the best finals of all time, it had (in my opinion, duh) the best PvT game of all time. I could go on, but I'll wait for Fionn to do it instead .


can anyone tell me what was good about the Mvp/Squirtle game except the one moment when Mvp balled up his battlecruisers and squirtle got a vortex off?


Squirtle almost pulled the reverse 4-0 and it was decided in a very nail-biting cheese for g7. The fact that MVP would have the balls to lay it all on the line with a 2-rax alone is something to talk about.

Rest of the games ranged from bad to okay. Honestly the standards aren't high among gsl finals in retrospect, lol.


yeah, I actually liked the series and the 2-rax, but game 5 that everyone goes nuts over didn't do much for me.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
December 12 2013 02:36 GMT
#44
On December 12 2013 10:28 Stancel wrote:
I will be very surprised if either/both the Blizzard Cup and GSL Oct 2011 finals aren't in the top 3. Thinking about them still gives me chills.

edit: mobile pls


the October 2011 finals weren't even that good, really. it was just everything around them that made them memorable: the huge, amazing foreign crowd, the ungodly hype surrounding the two players who were clearly the best two in the world at the time, the number one fan favorite going up against a player on the verge of bonjwa-hood, etc. the games themselves were meh.
xenoZhang
Profile Joined July 2012
China142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 02:50:03
December 12 2013 02:45 GMT
#45
imo,
1. DRG vs MMA
2. MVP vs Squirtle
3. MMA vs MVP
4. Nestea vs MKP(i even cant recall why i think this is one of the best, just say there were alot of fancy stuff like 2 rax/boxer and Thro/MKP's tear drop mixed in, but im sure this final is what SC2 catches me in the first place )
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eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
December 12 2013 02:48 GMT
#46
Very good article, looking forward to the next.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
December 12 2013 02:52 GMT
#47
My prediction for the seven remaining:

#7 Rain vs Maru
#6 Leenock vs Jjakji
#5 Marineking vs Nestea
#4 Innovation vs Soulkey
#3 MVP vs Life
#2 MVP vs Squirtle
#1 MMA vs DRG

My personal favourite is MVP vs Squirtle because I was there, it was epic and the player I was cheering for won.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
December 12 2013 02:58 GMT
#48
I know not everyone is a hopeless romantic, as I am, but I'm still amazed to see Fruitdealer's final that low.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
December 12 2013 02:59 GMT
#49
On December 12 2013 11:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 11:19 DRTnOOber wrote:
Best game of all time is Scarlett VS Bomber in Redbull Battlegrounds.


I don't even think that was the best Scarlett game...this year even.

Dream vs Scarlett alone was better in ATC finals imo.


Agreed, if that had been a GSL finals game it would be the stuff of legend.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 12 2013 03:01 GMT
#50
I never thought this article would see the light of day, I assumed we had lost Fionn to that Riot money forever.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 12 2013 03:02 GMT
#51
IT WASNT HIS FAULT T_T
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
December 12 2013 03:07 GMT
#52
[QUOTE]On December 12 2013 11:45 xenoZhang wrote:
imo,
1. DRG vs MMA
2. MVP vs Squirtle
3. MMA vs MVP
4. Nestea vs MKP(i even cant recall why i think this is one of the best, just say there were alot of fancy stuff like 2 rax/boxer and Thro/MKP's tear drop mixed in, but im sure this final is what SC2 catches me in the first

Hint: it probably has something to do with John the Translator
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 12 2013 03:14 GMT
#53
Fionn are you going to do the Proleague power ranking again!?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 12 2013 03:17 GMT
#54
I hope mvp vs squirtle isn't #1. It's got to be the most over hyped series ever, the "game" that most people talk about was like a 40min no rush into archon toilet, and then mvp won a series by squirtle choking like crazy and waltzing out his base too early.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
December 12 2013 03:23 GMT
#55
I actually would have had the 2013 Hot 6ix Cup (the one we just had with Rain vs Soulkey) much higher. Maybe it was only good for the Starcraft purists, but it was some of the best play by both players that I've ever seen. Not my absolute favourite finals, but I would have it in my top 5 for certain.

The games were incredible. Balanced on a knife's edge the entire time as each player proved themselves to be amongst the smartest humans on the planet. Awesome games. Awesome finals. LUDICROUSLY ENTERTAINING comeback. Soulkey lost concentration for maybe 20 seconds and Rain's incredible play meant that was enough. Awesome.
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 12 2013 03:24 GMT
#56
On December 12 2013 12:17 bo1b wrote:
I hope mvp vs squirtle isn't #1. It's got to be the most over hyped series ever, the "game" that most people talk about was like a 40min no rush into archon toilet, and then mvp won a series by squirtle choking like crazy and waltzing out his base too early.


Like 5 of the games were good, I liked them all except 1 and 4. That contain on Dual Sight, the epic macro game on Entombed Valley.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 12 2013 03:24 GMT
#57
Fruitdealer's win is still by far the most memorable to me.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
December 12 2013 03:30 GMT
#58
On December 12 2013 11:28 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 11:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On December 12 2013 11:19 DRTnOOber wrote:
Best game of all time is Scarlett VS Bomber in Redbull Battlegrounds.


I don't even think that was the best Scarlett game...this year even.

Dream vs Scarlett alone was better in ATC finals imo.


If we count WoL, Gumiho vs Losira on Akilon wins with Taeja vs Innovation on Newkirk being an extremely close second. Then it drops off dramatically.


Do you clowns even remember Nestea vs. sC on Crossfire? For shame sirs.
In Inca we trust
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
December 12 2013 03:32 GMT
#59
Holy shit I love TL writers. All of you.
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
Rascandrius
Profile Joined June 2013
Denmark32 Posts
December 12 2013 03:40 GMT
#60
100 e-sports dollars on the fact that #1 probably is a throw match like Mvp vs NesTea or even worse, innovation vs soulkey .. *shudders*
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