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smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
December 06 2013 15:46 GMT
#261
Time to become the richest starcraft 1 player alongside Elky. I think Ekly is at like 10 million$$ or something.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 15:53:36
December 06 2013 15:50 GMT
#262
On December 07 2013 00:45 farnham wrote:
His mindset when playing games, to never surrender inspired a lot of young koreans and thats why its sad that he isnt trying another time. however i can kinda see that he doesnt want to do anything with SC2 anymore after how he got treated by those slayers basterds


That reminds me of his game against Joyo or whoever it was on the island map where he killed all the Protoss transport units and forced a mineout on the starting islands after getting his butt kicked all game long.

Scarlet with Banelings is pretty epic.

The only game that ever ended up with the observers looking for transport units only to find the last Terran CC floating to the last mining base is just on a different level.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
December 06 2013 15:52 GMT
#263
Ok so I thought the reason that sc players in general tend to go play poker was because of the specific transferable skills, specifically apm and high speed decision making. In other words, it was my impression that what sc players have a leg up on is playing many games online at the same time, and flipping through them very quickly, which makes it a more profitable and reliable way of making money. But being a spokesman seems like it would mean playing single high profile games at a time, which seems like it doesn't use any Starcraft skills at all? Am I missing something?

Well, I guess it seems like boxer won't be playing for money anyway if gambling is illegal in SK, so I guess there's no difference
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 06 2013 15:54 GMT
#264
On December 07 2013 00:45 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 00:22 FFW_Rude wrote:
On December 06 2013 23:54 shammythefox wrote:
Why is everyone so upset about this? I was under the impression the Starcraft communities opinion on poker was fairly warm. It's fairly obvious Boxer's days as a progamer in Starcraft are behind us, whereas poker is an opportunity that requires similar characteristics in a player without the mechanical pressure of a fast paced RTS game making it a perfect platform to continue a career into middle and old age.

It also goes without saying that it's an incredibly lucrative business and the potential for Starcraft 2 gaining positive publicity out of this move is hardly negligible.

I wish Boxer the best of luck and I dearly hope he decides to stream some of this.


I can answer this really simply. It's "another" end of an era.

I'm really upset about this (in an emotional way). Sure it's good that he can follow his career. But i'm just sad that he's leaving. But maybe it's not for good. I hope we will have an awesome interview where he explain his mindset and all of that.

For me, Lim Yohwan is what made me who am i today (i know it sounds silly. And i'm 30 ...). This guy tought me passion through his games. Perseverance, ambition and all of that. I found myself in high school with problem and saying in my head : "boxer wouldn't have let this down. He would have fought". Stuff like that.

Irony in all of that. I'm not a SKT fan.

Maybe i was a pathetic kid i don't know. But that is why i'm sad that he is ending his Starcraft presence. Hopefully it's not for good and may come back sometimes. I also hope that his physical condition is good now.
you are absolutely right

Boxer is a modern hero in korea. he made the whole starcraft programing scene possible and to be honest his game against nada (which had 3 million viewers a number no other starcraft 2 match ever achieved) probably was the reason why SC2 had some early success.

His mindset when playing games, to never surrender inspired a lot of young koreans and thats why its sad that he isnt trying another time. however i can kinda see that he doesnt want to do anything with SC2 anymore after how he got treated by those slayers basterds


I'm not Korean so he reached even further than Korea for me
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
finkelboy
Profile Joined December 2008
Italy372 Posts
December 06 2013 16:03 GMT
#265
So sad, what about coaching?
Ma jae yoon, what else? By.hero next bonjwa
Moonsalt
Profile Joined May 2011
267 Posts
December 06 2013 16:10 GMT
#266
There's not much he can do in the StarCraft scene anyway, if he found something else he enjoys leave him be....
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
December 06 2013 16:10 GMT
#267
On December 07 2013 00:52 strongandbig wrote:
Ok so I thought the reason that sc players in general tend to go play poker was because of the specific transferable skills, specifically apm and high speed decision making. In other words, it was my impression that what sc players have a leg up on is playing many games online at the same time, and flipping through them very quickly, which makes it a more profitable and reliable way of making money. But being a spokesman seems like it would mean playing single high profile games at a time, which seems like it doesn't use any Starcraft skills at all? Am I missing something?

Well, I guess it seems like boxer won't be playing for money anyway if gambling is illegal in SK, so I guess there's no difference

well it's competitive, game of incomplete information like someone said earlier

and I suppose the idea of being able to win money at the same time is more attractive than playing something like billard or chess
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
December 06 2013 16:27 GMT
#268
If only it were that easy, though given his past of being good at SC1 and SC2 and hard work and what not, it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility for him to be a winning pro player.
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
StatixEx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom779 Posts
December 06 2013 16:48 GMT
#269
pokers ace, you have a 1/how many players chance of winning every hand!
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
December 06 2013 16:49 GMT
#270
make it rain boxer
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RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
December 06 2013 17:05 GMT
#271
This is a nightmare..... :/
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
December 06 2013 17:08 GMT
#272
On December 06 2013 12:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
This is so sad I hope he finds happiness there though.

happiness in poker? oh please...
Akimbo
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada105 Posts
December 06 2013 17:12 GMT
#273
There is so many players ion poker now.
1-1+1-1+1-1+1-.......
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
December 06 2013 17:23 GMT
#274
I thought things like Poker were banned in Korea? Whenever I play Poker I never see players from Asia in general.

A big poker table with all the ex Starcraft pros would be a lot of fun.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
December 06 2013 17:28 GMT
#275
On December 07 2013 02:08 Cheerio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 12:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
This is so sad I hope he finds happiness there though.

happiness in poker? oh please...

I'm pretty happy fwiw, as long as you find proper balance, don't think someone playing 14 hours a day of starcraft is any happier
dogmode
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Philippines491 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 17:53:09
December 06 2013 17:52 GMT
#276
On December 07 2013 00:52 strongandbig wrote:
Ok so I thought the reason that sc players in general tend to go play poker was because of the specific transferable skills, specifically apm and high speed decision making. In other words, it was my impression that what sc players have a leg up on is playing many games online at the same time, and flipping through them very quickly, which makes it a more profitable and reliable way of making money. But being a spokesman seems like it would mean playing single high profile games at a time, which seems like it doesn't use any Starcraft skills at all? Am I missing something?

Well, I guess it seems like boxer won't be playing for money anyway if gambling is illegal in SK, so I guess there's no difference


this is probably the answer:

On December 07 2013 02:12 Akimbo wrote:
There is so many players ion poker now.



the communities are just intertwined. im sure these ex-pro players are all friends/acquaintances on some level, its not a big jump to get into what people close to you are into...

just look at jinro he's in poker now too right? he said it was into it a long time ago but im guessing that a factor may be because Nazgul also has links to poker (see: TLPoker)
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
December 06 2013 17:54 GMT
#277
I'm kind of in relief. I wish he stays to coach or do something in sc2, but this feels better than him doing the simple move of going to lol. He's 33 and I don't care much for lol. He'll probably do really well in Korea, with his name bringing strategic hyung-respect from the opponents but playing outside will be a big test. He definitely has it in him though!

I was young and ignorant when he was in his prime, but I remember how I would smile everytime he'd play. Bringing nukes, bringing back mech. Watching Fantasy play was kind of like watching a robot performing his will.

My favourite Broodwar memory is a TvT when he scouts a proxy barracks so early that the opponent cancels it, only to put up his own proxy barracks at the same place!

And when I finally got to see him in Korea! Before Fantasys sc2 game in the gsl studio, how Boxer brings the chair from the last games winning booth (MC had killed in that chair in the game earlier) and the poor scrub from the other team has to watch Boxer drag a superchair over the floor into Fantasys booth. The scrub cringed and Fantasy won!

I guess this is the last chance to post a pic of us. I got to feel like when it all started back when I was 16, every game of brood war made my jaw drop and Boxer was praised with blind idealism. Good times!

[image loading]
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 06 2013 17:59 GMT
#278
On December 07 2013 02:28 ROOTFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 02:08 Cheerio wrote:
On December 06 2013 12:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
This is so sad I hope he finds happiness there though.

happiness in poker? oh please...

I'm pretty happy fwiw, as long as you find proper balance, don't think someone playing 14 hours a day of starcraft is any happier

how many games do you have to grind to make a reasonable living?
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
December 06 2013 18:03 GMT
#279
On December 07 2013 02:59 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 02:28 ROOTFayth wrote:
On December 07 2013 02:08 Cheerio wrote:
On December 06 2013 12:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
This is so sad I hope he finds happiness there though.

happiness in poker? oh please...

I'm pretty happy fwiw, as long as you find proper balance, don't think someone playing 14 hours a day of starcraft is any happier

how many games do you have to grind to make a reasonable living?

All depends on what stakes you're capable of beating.
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 18:12:05
December 06 2013 18:09 GMT
#280
The world is such a small place.
Back then (T)ElkY was the new guy stepping into (T)boxer palace.

And now look at how the tables switched....
I want a poker star showmatch featuring them both !

Also you never really stop loving SC,i saw elky play starcraft I & II in a french show just a few weeks ago, he was enjoying it soo much it was pretty amusing
RIP MKP
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