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Hot6ix Cup - Maru v soO, Bomber vs Soulkey on D2

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Hot6ix Cup - Maru v soO, Bomber vs Soulkey on D2

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byshiroiusagi
December 4th, 2013 22:15 GMT
Photos: GomTV and ThisIsGame
2013 not WCS

GOMTV Hot6ix Cup



Day 1 Recap
Rain and Dear advance

Day 2 Preview
soO vs. Maru
Bomber vs. Soulkey

Brackets and standings on
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Rain, Dear advance on Day 1

by Waxangel

Two of KeSPA's top Protoss players in (P)SKT_Rain and (P)SouL_Dear advanced to the semifinals on day one of the Hot6ix Cup, handily defeating (Z)AZUBU.Symbol and (Z)Samsung_RorO.

(P)Rain (3 - 0) (Z)Symbol

Rain took Symbol to the cleaners with a 3-0 drubbing in the first series of the night. Amusingly enough, the series between two former WoL finalists started off with a rather retro-feel, as Rain took a quick third and killed off Symbol with a stalker-colossus timing before hive tech could be reached. Rain then went up 2-0 by hitting another sort of timing entirely, following his fast expand with a 4-gate that made short work of Symbol's greedy build.

After winning with two piercing timings, Rain put on a macro PvZ clinic to close out the series. After grabbing his third following a standard stargate-robo opener, Rain seized control of the game and never let it go. His forces constantly denied Symbol from taking a fourth base, burning down hatcheries and retreating while Symbol tried to keep up. All the while, zealot warp-ins and phoenixes added to Symbol's misery. Even though Symbol survived to make a sizable army of ultralisks off three bases, it was not enough to swing the game. Having secured four bases, Rain happily took an even trade against Symbol's ultralisks before finishing him off with superior reinforcements.

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(P)Dear (3 - 1) (Z)RorO

Defending Code S champion Dear had a slightly more difficult time against RorO, but emerged with the 3-1 victory nevertheless. The first game saw the the 4-gate strategy rear its head again, and once again it gifted the Protoss an easy victory. RorO then tried to go for some cheese of his own in game two on Yeonsu with an early spawning pool, but poor Zergling micro allowed Dear to survive with enough probes remaining to have a small lead. Dear opted to follow with a big +2 blink stalker and immortal timing, but Roro somehow found a way to squeeze out enough hydras and zerglings for a successful defense. With the core of his army broken, Dear GG'd out to tie the series 1 - 1.

Dear was the aggressor once more in game three, going for oracles and dark templars to keep RorO on his toes. RorO managed to keep his losses at a reasonable level and was even able to gather a dangerous force of hydralisks for a counter-attack as Dear attempted to take a third base. Unfortunately for RorO his force didn't have the firepower to raze the nexus before it was taken down, and the tables quickly turned against him when Dear launched a counter-counter-attack with a warp prism in the Zerg main. Having taken too much damage from the warp-ins, RorO GG'd out after a half-hearted muta switch.

More aggressive tactics saw Dear close out the series on Polar Night. Void rays combined with a pesky sentry drop wreaked havoc inside of RorO's main, all the while Dear prepared back at home to hit with a follow-up force of colossi. RorO's hydralisks and roaches were powerless to defend against the next wave of attackers from Dear, and he bowed out of the tournament.

Subplot of the Night: 4-Gate Rides Again

It's official: the PvZ flavor of the week is gate expand into 4-gate pressure. After San used the somewhat simplistic strategy to eliminate Hydra and Effort at IEM Singapore, both Rain and Dear were able to use it to take games in the Hot6ix Cup as well.

Considering that it was one of the very first follow-ups to gate-expand to be popularized, it's hard to tell why Zergs are losing so haplessly to this build at this point in time. For now, it seems like it's a case of an old strategy making a surprise comeback and players getting caught off guard. It's often been the case that a retro strategy can lead to a few easy wins before opponents add it to their mental list of things to keep an eye out for. The other possibility is that Protoss players have found some new nuances in the build and found more effective ways to play it in the present PvZ metagame. In any case, it's a strategy to pay attention to in the following week.

Quarterfinals - Day 2 Preview

Dear and Rain have booked a semifinal date in the top half of the bracket, guaranteeing there will be a Protoss player in the finals. Now, it's time to see who will come up from the other half of the bracket.

Quarterfinal 3: Maru vs. soO

by Waxangel

With his OSL championship run that saw him beat Symbol, INnoVation and Rain, (T)MaruPrime looked like he was going to be our breakout player of the year. Unfortunately for the young Marine Prince, he was out-broken-out (yes, we're making up words) by Dear the next season, who handed Maru back to back semifinal exits from WCS while he himself went on to win back to back titles.

Besides Dear taking some of the air out of his tires, Maru has been rolling along at a steady pace since taking his OSL title. He's definitely no one-hit wonder like some thought after his Ro16 elimination in the WCS S2 finals—he more than made up for it by placing in the top four of three consecutive WCS tournaments (Korea, Season Finals, Global Finals). It's a little hard to notice with TaeJa taking all those international titles, but Maru has actually been the best WCS Terran in the last few months.

As for Maru's opponent, (Z)SKT_soO, it's hard to know what to make of him. He was the runner-up of WCS Korea Season 3, a season full of underdogs and upsets. Honestly, we didn't even really know what to make of the champion, Dear, until he went on to win WCS Season 3 in Canada to prove that he was not going to become the next Seed or jjakji.

But soO? He dropped out of the Ro16, leaving many to wonder if his run to the WCS Korea finals was just luck after all. As mentioned above, even Maru flopped in the WCS Season Finals immediately following his OSL win, and he quickly recovered by showing great form in the following tournaments. It could very well be the case for soO, who is similar to Maru in that he was a rather ordinary Code S player before he made the leap one season. With a strong performance against Maru, soO can prove that he's for real.

Overall Outlook and Prediction

soO and Maru played each other somewhat recently in the WCS Season 3 Finals, where Maru took a 2-1 victory. That series was decided mostly in the early-mid game, with soO losing the games where he was unable hold off Maru's marine-hellion-medivac pressure, and winning the one game that went long. That sort of fits with the mental image we have for the two players, Maru being a constantly attacking player with great micro, and soO being a more big picture oriented player.

Without much recent data this is more of a gut feeling prediction, so I'll go with Maru to win it again by a narrow margin.

Maru 3 - 2 soO


Quarterfinal 4: Bomber vs. Soulkey

by Zealously

Consistency, meet inconsistency

Through this year's soaring highs and disappointing lows, only one thing about (T)ST_Bomber has been truly consistent: his inconsistency. More so than any other player, Bomber is the player whose skill bounces back and forth between championship level and something like Code A level with almost alarming frequency. However, it's a clear improvement over the earlier versions of Bomber, whose capacity to go from Code S champion to Code B scrub inside the SAME SERIES created the dead-horse idea of "Bomber's Law." While he has looked clearly outmatched a few times this year, it has mostly been in the playoff stages of incredibly tough tournaments, where no one can be expected to easily advance. For all his supposed disappointments, it's hard to deny that 2013 has been the year when Bomber finally got it together (more than once). However impressive his MLG championship in 2011 may have been, 2013 has been Bomber's best year by far. Had he not suffered a loss to Scarlett at Red Bull Battlegrounds, he could be coming into Hot6ix Cup as a favorite and one of 2013 best performing players. Alas, that didn't happen, and Bomber must once again fight his reputation as a choker as he continues his quest for maximum success before his military service.

It is only fitting that Bomber's opponent is (Z)Woongjin_Soulkey, a player who is all the things Bomber (usually) isn't. With a strong claim to being 2013's best player, Soulkey comes into Hot6ix Cup as a dual WCS/WCG champion. Having beaten Innovation to win WCS Korea Season 1 and, despite losing to him in WCG Korea, winning the WCG Finals after his rival forfeit his spot to go to Dreamhack instead. Soulkey has managed to break free from his image as a ”consistently good but not the best”-kind of player that seemed to follow him around in the first parts of 2013.

More than anything, Soulkey embodies consistency. Since 2012 GSL Season 5, Soulkey has reached seven Premier tournament quarterfinals quarterfinals, all of them either GSL or WCS. While he did fail to make it to the season 2 finals after being eliminated in the Ro8, Soulkey has never looked weak, never looked like he even knows how to spell slump. In an environment where most players fluctuate, where it seems no one can be taken for granted, Soulkey has stayed true to his reputation as the Iron Wall of Korea and remained a threat to win any tournament he participates in, and the Hot6ix Cup is no different. Unlike players like Roro, Symbol and Rain, who secured spots before they faded from the spotlight, Soulkey hasn't fallen off in the slightest. He is just as much of a threat now as he was in Season 1, continuously ironing out any flaws in his play and further polishing his strong aspects to become a more complete player.

But despite Soulkey's astonishing consistency and recent WCG championship, I can't shake the feeling that this match is in large part Bomber's match. That doesn't necessarily mean that Bomber is the favorite to win the match, but that the result will likely be decided from Bomber's side. Soulkey is the constant, Bomber is the variable.

At the Season 2 Finals, Bomber utterly dismantled Jaedong to take an easy 4-0 victory and he showed similarly impressive play against Soulkey in the quarterfinals of Blizzcon, picking him apart to take the series 3-1. Everyone knows that Bomber is capable of beating Soulkey, and probably anyone else in the world as well. But it takes something special for that to happen. People like to crack jokes about some cosmic law that forces Bomber to lose once he has looked impressive for a little while, but this year has been one long exercise in disproving that. No, the issue for Bomber (and indeed, anyone attempting to predict his matches) is that it's impossible to know when he'll come out with guns blazing and when he'll suddenly realize that he forgot to pack ammunition this morning.

Most days, Soulkey might actually be the favorite to take this match. His ZvT hasn't been weak at any point in HotS and although we've seen none of it since his loss to Bomber at Blizzcon, we must remember that Scarlett has beaten Bomber twice in the match-up over the last few weeks. Scarlett isn't by any means a slouch herself, but it's no stretch to say that Soulkey is her better in ZvT. If Soulkey has learned from his loss at Blizzcon, if he knows what he did wrong and has managed to fix those flaws, Soulkey will probably take Bomber out and advance to the semis. Of course, we then presume that Bomber isn't going to bring his near-unbeatable A-game, which is a dangerous thing to do. His losses to Scarlett indicate that he might be in slightly worse shape now than he was at Blizzcon, which is understandable after a long season with many games, but I have a hunch that Bomber will bring something to the table for Hot6ix Cup. Can he become the Bomberman in one more tournament this year, or has he used up all of his nitroglycerin?

It's impossible to know with the mixed signals he has been giving off recently, but one thing is certain: he is as impossible to count out as he is to count on.

Prediction: Bomber 3 - 2 Soulkey


Writers: Waxangel and Zealously.
Graphics: shiroiusagi.
Photos: GomTV and ThisIsGame.
Editor: Waxangel.
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
December 04 2013 22:17 GMT
#2
nah sk going to beat bomber hard! and soo will get destroyed harder!
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 04 2013 22:21 GMT
#3
Maru and Bomber. Just so Bomber can thrash him in the next round!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 04 2013 22:23 GMT
#4
I hope Maru can take it but I have a feeling it's going to be close like you predict
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caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
December 04 2013 22:24 GMT
#5
Guaranteed TvP finals. I like it... Now: make it so!
why?
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
December 04 2013 22:24 GMT
#6
Bomber's Law still exists!

I really hope Maru takes this! We need our MarinePrince!
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
December 04 2013 22:29 GMT
#7
small mistake: game 2 between dear vs roro was on frost, yeonsu was game 3.

nice recap, ty wax
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 04 2013 22:30 GMT
#8
On December 05 2013 07:24 hansonslee wrote:
Bomber's Law still exists!

I really hope Maru takes this! We need our MarinePrince!


I wrote something about that. I'm not sure what people want Bomber's Law to mean anymore. Is it choking? Well, everyone does. Is it losing? Everyone does? Is it losing to inferior players? Most people do, and Bomber doesn't do it much more frequently than anyone else. Is it high variance in level of play? Yeah, a lot of players have that, and most of said players don't have Bomber's results.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 04 2013 22:31 GMT
#9
We just like to say it because Wintex rages
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 04 2013 22:40 GMT
#10
Maru 3-2
Bomber 3-0
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
December 04 2013 22:43 GMT
#11
Yeap, Bomber got this. Sometimes you gotta have faith
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 04 2013 22:46 GMT
#12
On December 05 2013 07:24 caznitch wrote:
Guaranteed TvP finals. I like it... Now: make it so!


Not yet, Maru and Bomber could both lose.
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Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 22:48:13
December 04 2013 22:47 GMT
#13
On December 05 2013 07:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
Maru and Bomber. Just so Bomber can thrash him in the next round!


That ain't gonna happen )

Maru vs soO will be interesting. soO used to call prime players punching bags we will see if Maru can make him eat those words.

Soulkey vs Bomber well, 3-2 for Soulkey, could go either way tho depends which Bomber shows up and even if he played well it still might go for Soulkey so I think SK is safer bet on this.

Also, "only one thing about (T)ST_Bomber has been truly consistent: his inconsistency." Dat ST_Bummer ::DD
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
December 04 2013 22:51 GMT
#14
On December 05 2013 07:46 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 07:24 caznitch wrote:
Guaranteed TvP finals. I like it... Now: make it so!


Not yet, Maru and Bomber could both lose.


Uhhh.... did you not read the predictions above? When has TL ever been wrong
why?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 04 2013 22:51 GMT
#15
On December 05 2013 07:51 caznitch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 07:46 Bagration wrote:
On December 05 2013 07:24 caznitch wrote:
Guaranteed TvP finals. I like it... Now: make it so!


Not yet, Maru and Bomber could both lose.


Uhhh.... did you not read the predictions above? When has TL ever been wrong


I don't tend to get Korean playoffs wrong
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 04 2013 22:52 GMT
#16
let's go MARUUU
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XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
December 04 2013 23:02 GMT
#17
Maru 3-2 soO
SK 3-2 Bomber
Thanks for the write up !!
Incubus1993
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada140 Posts
December 04 2013 23:05 GMT
#18
What's with the underlying foreigner hate? Scarlett's ZvT is some of the best in the world if not the best.
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Trogdor89
Profile Joined March 2011
United States17 Posts
December 04 2013 23:16 GMT
#19
On December 05 2013 08:05 Incubus1993 wrote:
What's with the underlying foreigner hate? Scarlett's ZvT is some of the best in the world if not the best.


It's true- I think most people would put her as top 3 ZvT, along with DRG and Soulkey.
chuiboy
Profile Joined October 2011
55 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 23:49:51
December 04 2013 23:48 GMT
#20
no surprise that the protoss dominated the zergs.

Wild prediction:
SoO 3:1 Maru
Soulkey 3:1 Bomber
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
December 04 2013 23:57 GMT
#21
Maru 3-1 soo, soulkey 3-1 bomber
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NAMeCHa
Profile Joined March 2011
36 Posts
December 05 2013 00:10 GMT
#22
Anyone know how much Bomber has been practicing? With RBB supposed to be his last tournament and all...
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
December 05 2013 00:12 GMT
#23
Not wise betting against Soulkey here...Maru will poooooooooon Soo and Soulkey will take it 3-2 off bomber
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
December 05 2013 00:17 GMT
#24
Revenge of the zergs?
dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1158 Posts
December 05 2013 00:49 GMT
#25
soulkey's got this
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
December 05 2013 01:08 GMT
#26
Maru 3-0 Soo
Bomber 2-3 Soulkey.
I'd be very surprised if Soo takes a map off of Maru. Maru live is a completely different and far superior player to Maru in online qualifiers. Bomber's TvZ has actually looked extremely good recently, and his losses against Scarlett have been exceedingly close, and looked just stratospherically high-level. I don't think he's lost his form at all. I'm even willing to overlook the losses against CJ Hero, since Hero has finally gotten his act together and is looking better than half the players in this tournament.
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
December 05 2013 01:15 GMT
#27
I'm thinking Soulkey... okay, hoping Soulkey... unless Bomber will win the entire thing of course.
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lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
December 05 2013 01:45 GMT
#28
Maru 3-1 Soo
Soulkeu 3-2 Bomber
Startale forever.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 05 2013 01:52 GMT
#29
On December 05 2013 07:51 caznitch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 07:46 Bagration wrote:
On December 05 2013 07:24 caznitch wrote:
Guaranteed TvP finals. I like it... Now: make it so!


Not yet, Maru and Bomber could both lose.


Uhhh.... did you not read the predictions above? When has TL ever been wrong


Have you heard of Fionn's curse? TL's track record of predicting is...well
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dustinth
Profile Joined September 2012
China205 Posts
December 05 2013 02:02 GMT
#30
Soo would take down Maru and Soulkey will get his revenge.
huller20
Profile Joined August 2010
United States112 Posts
December 05 2013 02:03 GMT
#31
Does anybody know whether the VODS are available, and if so, where? Thanks.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 05 2013 02:26 GMT
#32
surprised no one mentioned Dear is not Kespa yet ;o
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 05 2013 02:27 GMT
#33
On December 05 2013 11:26 Dodgin wrote:
surprised no one mentioned Dear is not Kespa yet ;o

noone really cares that much about kespa anymore anyway
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 05 2013 02:28 GMT
#34
On December 05 2013 11:27 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 11:26 Dodgin wrote:
surprised no one mentioned Dear is not Kespa yet ;o

noone really cares that much about kespa anymore anyway


you're not supposed to say that, maru is kespa D:
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
December 05 2013 02:42 GMT
#35
Maru 3:2 Soo
Bomber 3:1 SK
zachMEISTER
Profile Joined December 2010
United States625 Posts
December 05 2013 02:46 GMT
#36
Are there no VODS from Ro8 Day 1?
psillypsybic!
FoShao
Profile Joined November 2012
United States256 Posts
December 05 2013 03:41 GMT
#37
I can't see Maru losing to soO, but Bomber vs. Soulkey could go either way :o depending on how well Bomber plays that day lololol
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
December 05 2013 04:02 GMT
#38
SK>Bomber
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
December 05 2013 05:29 GMT
#39
On December 05 2013 09:10 NAMeCHa wrote:
Anyone know how much Bomber has been practicing? With RBB supposed to be his last tournament and all...

I imagine he's been practicing as hard as ever, seeing as RBB was NOT supposed to be his last tournament and all...
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
December 05 2013 05:33 GMT
#40
Liquibet Maru and Soulkey but gogo Bomber please!
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
December 05 2013 06:04 GMT
#41
Soulkey > Bomber
Maru > soO
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Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
December 05 2013 06:17 GMT
#42
Bomber - Soulkey 1-3,Maru - soO 3-2
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hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 07:26:31
December 05 2013 07:25 GMT
#43
On December 05 2013 07:30 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 07:24 hansonslee wrote:
Bomber's Law still exists!

I really hope Maru takes this! We need our MarinePrince!


I wrote something about that. I'm not sure what people want Bomber's Law to mean anymore. Is it choking? Well, everyone does. Is it losing? Everyone does? Is it losing to inferior players? Most people do, and Bomber doesn't do it much more frequently than anyone else. Is it high variance in level of play? Yeah, a lot of players have that, and most of said players don't have Bomber's results.


To me, Bomber's Law is defined as a very talented player specifically Bomber can lose in a disappointing manner. Granted, there are a lot of players who will have a bad day and lose it all (like Jaedong). However, Bomber may have won two championships, but, as a Bomber fan, I know that he can do better. To me, he's very a smart guy, unlike mechanical players such as Innovation, with sharp mechanics. I don't mind if people can beat him out right (like when he lost against Scarlett on very close matches). However, we see more unforced errors from him, even when he recently accidentally moved his tanks to the locust swarm against the same person. For a person like him, I believe that he can do better and perhaps deserves better than how he presents himself. Perhaps, he's special because, for a guy who is getting older, he can pull off very impressive feats. Regardless, the fact of the matter is that Bomber tends to lose in a saddening manner, and I continue to believe, given his history, would continue to happen, regardless of how much the fans despise it.

Also, although SoulKey lost against Bomber in BlizzCon, I would bet my money on his consistency for safety reasons. But then, again, I guess that's what's cool about Bomber. Everyone has a legitimate reason to root for or against him.
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Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 07:32:35
December 05 2013 07:31 GMT
#44
On December 05 2013 16:25 hansonslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 07:30 Zealously wrote:
On December 05 2013 07:24 hansonslee wrote:
Bomber's Law still exists!

I really hope Maru takes this! We need our MarinePrince!


I wrote something about that. I'm not sure what people want Bomber's Law to mean anymore. Is it choking? Well, everyone does. Is it losing? Everyone does? Is it losing to inferior players? Most people do, and Bomber doesn't do it much more frequently than anyone else. Is it high variance in level of play? Yeah, a lot of players have that, and most of said players don't have Bomber's results.


To me, Bomber's Law is defined as a very talented player specifically Bomber can lose in a disappointing manner. Granted, there are a lot of players who will have a bad day and lose it all (like Jaedong). However, Bomber may have won two championships, but, as a Bomber fan, I know that he can do better. To me, he's very a smart guy, unlike mechanical players such as Innovation, with sharp mechanics. I don't mind if people can beat him out right (like when he lost against Scarlett on very close matches). However, we see more unforced errors from him, even when he recently accidentally moved his tanks to the locust swarm against the same person. For a person like him, I believe that he can do better and perhaps deserves better than how he presents himself. Perhaps, he's special because, for a guy who is getting older, he can pull off very impressive feats. Regardless, the fact of the matter is that Bomber tends to lose in a saddening manner, and I continue to believe, given his history, would continue to happen, regardless of how much the fans despise it.

Also, although SoulKey lost against Bomber in BlizzCon, I would bet my money on his consistency for safety reasons. But then, again, I guess that's what's cool about Bomber. Everyone has a legitimate reason to root for or against him.


I think it's more Bomber's specific ability to look completely unstoppable in one series to the extent that people question if his opponent even had a chance and then in the very next series lose in a way that makes you feel silly for thinking he was even close to unstoppable to begin with. There are lots of players with results that vary greatly, but never with the same feel of domination followed by total submission that Bomber seems to display.
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
December 05 2013 07:44 GMT
#45
Sorry for doubting you, Bomber, I really wish for you to dominate.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 05 2013 07:52 GMT
#46
hmm can't help but feel Maru and Soulkey will take it. soO isn't a slouch and I think it's be 3-2 with very close games. Maybe a base race or two Soulkey got this though!
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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
December 05 2013 08:10 GMT
#47
Maru and whoever please.
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uThermal
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
December 05 2013 08:47 GMT
#48
maru vs dear finals omfg
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 05 2013 08:56 GMT
#49
gogo Terrans!!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
December 05 2013 09:06 GMT
#50
Confusing xD
This just gives more questions than answers to me
Still should be great TvZ
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 09:20:03
December 05 2013 09:17 GMT
#51
On December 05 2013 16:25 hansonslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 07:30 Zealously wrote:
On December 05 2013 07:24 hansonslee wrote:
Bomber's Law still exists!

I really hope Maru takes this! We need our MarinePrince!


I wrote something about that. I'm not sure what people want Bomber's Law to mean anymore. Is it choking? Well, everyone does. Is it losing? Everyone does? Is it losing to inferior players? Most people do, and Bomber doesn't do it much more frequently than anyone else. Is it high variance in level of play? Yeah, a lot of players have that, and most of said players don't have Bomber's results.


To me, Bomber's Law is defined as a very talented player specifically Bomber can lose in a disappointing manner. Granted, there are a lot of players who will have a bad day and lose it all (like Jaedong). However, Bomber may have won two championships, but, as a Bomber fan, I know that he can do better. To me, he's very a smart guy, unlike mechanical players such as Innovation, with sharp mechanics. I don't mind if people can beat him out right (like when he lost against Scarlett on very close matches). However, we see more unforced errors from him, even when he recently accidentally moved his tanks to the locust swarm against the same person. For a person like him, I believe that he can do better and perhaps deserves better than how he presents himself. Perhaps, he's special because, for a guy who is getting older, he can pull off very impressive feats. Regardless, the fact of the matter is that Bomber tends to lose in a saddening manner, and I continue to believe, given his history, would continue to happen, regardless of how much the fans despise it.

Also, although SoulKey lost against Bomber in BlizzCon, I would bet my money on his consistency for safety reasons. But then, again, I guess that's what's cool about Bomber. Everyone has a legitimate reason to root for or against him.

I agree. For example, at IPL5 he showed the imo highest level of play at the tourney, when he dismantled apm master DRG in a macro game. But for what? Only to drop out against Polt in losers round 10. He deserves so much, but only gets a smaller part if it due to his inconsistency.

Edit: Although I think Bomber got this match, its time to win some more stuff!
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 05 2013 09:39 GMT
#52
Bomber's Law is outdated, now it's down to the question if Bomber is a choker or not. One could say that Soulkey is a choker, too, taking his consistent top-but-not-winning placements.
klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
December 05 2013 09:42 GMT
#53
The OP is really unrealistic with his prediction. With the current state of the game it will be more a zerg rampage than anything

Soo 3- Maru 1

Soulkey 3 - Bomber 1

giving 1 point to both terrans because you know proxy rax can still win smthing.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
December 05 2013 10:05 GMT
#54
On December 05 2013 18:39 boxerfred wrote:
Bomber's Law is outdated, now it's down to the question if Bomber is a choker or not. One could say that Soulkey is a choker, too, taking his consistent top-but-not-winning placements.


I wouldn't call Soulkey a choker (remember his first GSL win when he came back from 0-3?). The times he was beaten were arguably times when he was not at his best or when the opponent has completely dismantled his play style.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 05 2013 10:10 GMT
#55
On December 05 2013 19:05 hansonslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 18:39 boxerfred wrote:
Bomber's Law is outdated, now it's down to the question if Bomber is a choker or not. One could say that Soulkey is a choker, too, taking his consistent top-but-not-winning placements.


I wouldn't call Soulkey a choker (remember his first GSL win when he came back from 0-3?). The times he was beaten were arguably times when he was not at his best or when the opponent has completely dismantled his play style.

that was more a bogus choke than anything haha
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ReMinD_
Profile Joined May 2013
Croatia846 Posts
December 05 2013 10:38 GMT
#56
Neural parasite inc
Parting: Well, even I can make better maps than these.
Telon Petrides
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada58 Posts
December 05 2013 10:44 GMT
#57
Maruuuuu! Mech! 1-0
Telon Petrides
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada58 Posts
December 05 2013 10:46 GMT
#58
Ha ha, Maru 11/11 rax whirlwind.
Telon Petrides
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada58 Posts
December 05 2013 10:49 GMT
#59
Maru 2-0!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 05 2013 10:55 GMT
#60
On December 05 2013 19:49 Telon Petrides wrote:
Maru 2-0!


try this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=437342 ;o
tritonice
Profile Joined November 2010
United States119 Posts
December 05 2013 17:07 GMT
#61
Soulkey will roll Bomber 3:0.

Heart says Maru, Head says SoO......
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 05 2013 17:08 GMT
#62
On December 06 2013 02:07 tritonice wrote:
Soulkey will roll Bomber 3:0.

Heart says Maru, Head says SoO......

I have news for you
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 05 2013 17:24 GMT
#63
On December 06 2013 02:08 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 02:07 tritonice wrote:
Soulkey will roll Bomber 3:0.

Heart says Maru, Head says SoO......

I have news for you


Old news. ;s Every thing has gone according to plan for me at least.
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
December 05 2013 18:13 GMT
#64
Well both series were a little painful to watch for different reasons... Looking forward to Ro4
why?
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
December 05 2013 18:21 GMT
#65
Where's the write-up? I was so disappointed this morning when I went to gomtv to see that these games weren't shown there, and then when I found they were on twitch, and that I have to buy next year's ticket for this year's event, even though I have a 2013 pass (which was very under-used this year and over-priced for the content, thank you WCS). If someone has details on how/if I can watch it with the 2013 ticket, you'd be my hero, even if your main race is Zerg

Kind of bummed, but yeah, if I at least know what happens, maybe I can decide to pull an all-nighter for the final if it's hyped up enough...
tritonice
Profile Joined November 2010
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 18:34:07
December 05 2013 18:33 GMT
#66
On December 06 2013 02:08 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2013 02:07 tritonice wrote:
Soulkey will roll Bomber 3:0.

Heart says Maru, Head says SoO......

I have news for you


I'm such an idiot.....
Cheesus2
Profile Joined November 2013
France3 Posts
December 05 2013 18:59 GMT
#67
I hope Dear will win this tournament, he is for me the best player!!
just Protoss
Buddy168
Profile Joined June 2012
United States157 Posts
December 05 2013 19:05 GMT
#68
I missed this T.T

VODs anywhere?
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huma1985
Profile Joined December 2013
Pakistan2 Posts
December 05 2013 20:08 GMT
#69
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zachMEISTER
Profile Joined December 2010
United States625 Posts
December 06 2013 01:15 GMT
#70
GOMTV isn't uploading VODS...wtf is this shit?
psillypsybic!
zachMEISTER
Profile Joined December 2010
United States625 Posts
December 06 2013 01:15 GMT
#71
GOMTV isn't uploading VODS...wtf is this shit?

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