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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26505 Posts
November 21 2013 14:34 GMT
#121
On November 21 2013 22:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:
SH and forcefields can't even be compared. Forcefields are not free, they're an ability and can be circumvented, broken through, etc. Locusts are free units. What. You're just making the comparison because you don't like either design.

Also wth, I would never harm the wizard

Of course not, the search for the culprit continues!

It's nothing to do with the 'free units' that annoy me about the SH. They are part of it mind.

It's that it's so clearly they looked at the Lurker, didn't just include the Lurker (with some tweaks for SC2) and made something like the lurker, intended to fulfil similar roles that just doesn't.

1 or 2 swarm hosts should be able to be burrowed in expos, on ramps and act as deterrents for things like Zealot runbys, but they don't do anything at all in such small numbers. What do you get when a unit is slow, has high DPS potential, high range and is only good when it hits a critical mass, and needs babysat? A unit that far from encouraging space control in strategic locations, with small numbers of SH in defensive positions, is FAR better used with the turtle/static D combination.

That they spawn units isn't a big deal vP, but is a bit of a pain for Terran as they set off mines and tank siege tank splash etc, but that's not inherently bad I guess.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 21 2013 14:40 GMT
#122
On November 21 2013 23:34 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 22:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:
SH and forcefields can't even be compared. Forcefields are not free, they're an ability and can be circumvented, broken through, etc. Locusts are free units. What. You're just making the comparison because you don't like either design.

Also wth, I would never harm the wizard

Of course not, the search for the culprit continues!

It's nothing to do with the 'free units' that annoy me about the SH. They are part of it mind.

It's that it's so clearly they looked at the Lurker, didn't just include the Lurker (with some tweaks for SC2) and made something like the lurker, intended to fulfil similar roles that just doesn't.

1 or 2 swarm hosts should be able to be burrowed in expos, on ramps and act as deterrents for things like Zealot runbys, but they don't do anything at all in such small numbers. What do you get when a unit is slow, has high DPS potential, high range and is only good when it hits a critical mass, and needs babysat? A unit that far from encouraging space control in strategic locations, with small numbers of SH in defensive positions, is FAR better used with the turtle/static D combination.

That they spawn units isn't a big deal vP, but is a bit of a pain for Terran as they set off mines and tank siege tank splash etc, but that's not inherently bad I guess.


I think you have good points overall but Blizzard said from the get go that sh are designed to push your advantage in closing out games. They aren't designed for space control at all.
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SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France898 Posts
November 21 2013 16:30 GMT
#123
Hmmm that choice of incontrol, I dont get it when you have Demu/Suppy/Xeno. Even if its showmatch playing vs CJ is a good practice. And incontrol isnt rly a progamer anymore :x.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 21 2013 16:46 GMT
#124
On November 22 2013 01:30 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Hmmm that choice of incontrol, I dont get it when you have Demu/Suppy/Xeno. Even if its showmatch playing vs CJ is a good practice. And incontrol isnt rly a progamer anymore :x.


Well it is a showmatch, and it's fun to see Incontrol playing.
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
November 21 2013 16:49 GMT
#125
Thank you based Coach Park
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SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France898 Posts
November 21 2013 17:00 GMT
#126
On November 22 2013 01:46 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 01:30 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Hmmm that choice of incontrol, I dont get it when you have Demu/Suppy/Xeno. Even if its showmatch playing vs CJ is a good practice. And incontrol isnt rly a progamer anymore :x.


Well it is a showmatch, and it's fun to see Incontrol playing.


Yea so fun seeing incontrol playing like a bad platinum dude. I mean If I want to see that I just go ladder and watch my replay. On this case this is just useless. Let real player plays plz. CJ dont send Effort little sister to play, it is actually Effort.
Stephano and Clem enjoyer
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 21 2013 17:02 GMT
#127
On November 22 2013 02:00 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 01:46 Bagration wrote:
On November 22 2013 01:30 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Hmmm that choice of incontrol, I dont get it when you have Demu/Suppy/Xeno. Even if its showmatch playing vs CJ is a good practice. And incontrol isnt rly a progamer anymore :x.


Well it is a showmatch, and it's fun to see Incontrol playing.


Yea so fun seeing incontrol playing like a bad platinum dude. I mean If I want to see that I just go ladder and watch my replay. On this case this is just useless. Let real player plays plz. CJ dont send Effort little sister to play, it is actually Effort.

don't exaggerate. he's better than you ever will be.
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SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France898 Posts
November 21 2013 17:05 GMT
#128
On November 22 2013 02:02 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 02:00 SinO[Ob] wrote:
On November 22 2013 01:46 Bagration wrote:
On November 22 2013 01:30 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Hmmm that choice of incontrol, I dont get it when you have Demu/Suppy/Xeno. Even if its showmatch playing vs CJ is a good practice. And incontrol isnt rly a progamer anymore :x.


Well it is a showmatch, and it's fun to see Incontrol playing.


Yea so fun seeing incontrol playing like a bad platinum dude. I mean If I want to see that I just go ladder and watch my replay. On this case this is just useless. Let real player plays plz. CJ dont send Effort little sister to play, it is actually Effort.

don't exaggerate. he's better than you ever will be.


Of course I exagerate :/, just saying theres other player that needs to level up instead of incontrol. This guy just out of progaming and more a caster now (a good one). And demu/suppy/Xeno could have a good practice in a cool showmatch with not much pressure.
Stephano and Clem enjoyer
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
November 21 2013 23:13 GMT
#129
VODS anywhere?
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lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
November 21 2013 23:23 GMT
#130
Yeah, vods for this?
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 23:34:02
November 21 2013 23:33 GMT
#131
EffOrt vs InConTroL OMG LOL I have to see this!!!

EDIT : Not because any negative reason, just they both played BW and i'd like to see how this game pans out!
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Fonda
Profile Joined March 2013
19 Posts
November 21 2013 23:38 GMT
#132
The VODS for this, and all of the previous show matches they have done recently are up on Twitch.
http://www.twitch.tv/cjentusteam/profile/pastBroadcasts
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
November 22 2013 03:43 GMT
#133
As a player and caster, InControl is great! But, I just don't know why he was playing when there are other foreign EG players who could played. Well, I guess this was a good chance to play professionally, which he really wants to (if you check his MLG 2011 interview)
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
November 22 2013 06:16 GMT
#134
VOD: http://www.youtube.com/user/DarkNathanias/videos

Protoss dominated so hard. It's not funny.
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
November 22 2013 06:26 GMT
#135
Anyone know the results?
Julyzerg ftw
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
November 22 2013 07:00 GMT
#136
On November 22 2013 02:00 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 01:46 Bagration wrote:
On November 22 2013 01:30 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Hmmm that choice of incontrol, I dont get it when you have Demu/Suppy/Xeno. Even if its showmatch playing vs CJ is a good practice. And incontrol isnt rly a progamer anymore :x.


Well it is a showmatch, and it's fun to see Incontrol playing.


Yea so fun seeing incontrol playing like a bad platinum dude. I mean If I want to see that I just go ladder and watch my replay. On this case this is just useless. Let real player plays plz. CJ dont send Effort little sister to play, it is actually Effort.


AHHHH, the ignorance. I think what this guy meant to say was iNcontroL is ~top40 GM and about a thousand times better than I'll ever be. You're welcome SinO
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
November 22 2013 07:02 GMT
#137
On November 22 2013 08:13 SC2Toastie wrote:
VODS anywhere?


http://www.twitch.tv/cjentusteam/b/481735805
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
November 22 2013 16:57 GMT
#138
On November 22 2013 16:00 kochanfe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 02:00 SinO[Ob] wrote:
On November 22 2013 01:46 Bagration wrote:
On November 22 2013 01:30 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Hmmm that choice of incontrol, I dont get it when you have Demu/Suppy/Xeno. Even if its showmatch playing vs CJ is a good practice. And incontrol isnt rly a progamer anymore :x.


Well it is a showmatch, and it's fun to see Incontrol playing.


Yea so fun seeing incontrol playing like a bad platinum dude. I mean If I want to see that I just go ladder and watch my replay. On this case this is just useless. Let real player plays plz. CJ dont send Effort little sister to play, it is actually Effort.


AHHHH, the ignorance. I think what this guy meant to say was iNcontroL is ~top40 GM and about a thousand times better than I'll ever be. You're welcome SinO


Yep, sometimes it's just hard to get your message across :D
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