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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
November 16 2013 11:56 GMT
#121
Woongjin noooooooo something has to be done.
The heart's eternal vow
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51674 Posts
November 16 2013 12:01 GMT
#122
Najin will most likely replace MVP as the '8th' team in the LoL Proleague (since MVP's LoL teams jumped ship to Samsung).

So MVP is a SC2 only member and Najin is a LoL only member.
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isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 12:06:36
November 16 2013 12:06 GMT
#123
When will ESF and KESPA realize that the only way to bring stability to the Korean scene is through a big combined proleague where players are able to play every week. I mean it's great that proleague is starting again, but in order for there to be a "best player" in the world there needs to be other than the over-stacked GSL/WCS, where the few who make it to the higher rounds can be easily knocked out by the next guy, because the tournaments so hard everyone is too good. In a proleague all the players play every week, so we can really see who can show us consistency week after week in proleague rather than who gets knocked out last in the GSL rat race.
If you look at Flash's tournament results you will just see a low tier code S player, so we just see another low-tier code S player, but he showed consistency week after week in Proleague, earning himself the number one in wins, so we can still he is the same flash from BW.

Now imagine a proleague with all ESF and Kespa teams and all the small teams paired up
Prime
MVP
IM
CJ_Entus
KT_Rolster
SKT_T1
Samsung_Khan
Jin Air
fou+WJS
Azubu+Soul
Startale
Team Epic
EG-TL

That looks pretty good doesn't it, now imagine if that were reality

I'm a mennonite, yes I'm allowed to use a computer
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 12:08:31
November 16 2013 12:06 GMT
#124
On November 16 2013 21:06 isaachukfan wrote:
When will ESF and KESPA realize that the only way to bring stability to the Korean scene is through a big combined proleague where players are able to play every week. I mean it's great that proleague is starting again, but in order for there to be a "best player" in the world there needs to be other than the over-stacked GSL/WCS, where the few who make it to the higher rounds can be easily knocked out by the next guy, because the tournaments so hard everyone is too good. In a proleague all the players play every week, so we can really see who can show us consistency week after week in proleague rather than who gets knocked out last in the GSL rat race.
If you look at Flash's tournament results you will just see a low tier code S player, so we just see another low-tier code S player, but he showed consistency week after week in Proleague, earning himself the number one in wins, so we can still he is the same flash from BW.

Now imagine a proleague with all ESF and Kespa teams and all the small teams paired up
Prime
MVP
IM
CJ_Entus
KT_Rolster
SKT_T1
Samsung_Khan
Jin Air
fou+WJS
Azubu+Soul
Startale
Team Epic
EG-TL

That looks pretty good doesn't it, now imagine if that were reality



I hope there will be 1 team league GOD PLEASE HELP MAKE IT TRUE!!!!!!!!

On November 16 2013 20:56 fx9 wrote:
Maru will have a hard time carrying team Prime. Yeah, like many, I hope for Prime/Woongjin Stars partnership. Maru/Soulkey/sOs on the same team will be sick!


SPL need 6 players Prime:
Maru
ByuN
Creator
GooJila
TerrOr
PenguiN If DH prelims are correct he left KT and joined Prime.

So Prime has 6 good players to perform well in SPL.
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
November 16 2013 12:08 GMT
#125
On November 16 2013 17:37 Shellshock wrote:
Where are the woongjin players going to go?


Well they are trying to keep them in woongjin apparently and rebuild the team around sOs and Soulkey. So id say they will either join the eSF and rebuild there or just sit back and rebuild without the problem of expectation of performance.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 16 2013 12:09 GMT
#126
On November 16 2013 21:06 DiMano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 20:56 fx9 wrote:
Maru will have a hard time carrying team Prime. Yeah, like many, I hope for Prime/Woongjin Stars partnership. Maru/Soulkey/sOs on the same team will be sick!

SPL need 6 players Prime:
Maru
ByuN
Creator
GooJila
TerrOr
PenguiN If DH prelims are correct he left KT and joined Prime.

So Prime has 6 good players to perform well in SPL.


However, playing with a 6-man roster isn't great for a team. They'll need one or two more players with at least a minimal chance to beat mediocre to good PL players. I don't doubt that they have a few rookies accessible, but can those win games? If not, all their players are essentially locked in Korea for the PL season.
AdministratorBreak the chains
WeRRa
Profile Joined December 2010
378 Posts
November 16 2013 12:10 GMT
#127
On November 16 2013 20:56 fx9 wrote:
Maru will have a hard time carrying team Prime. Yeah, like many, I hope for Prime/Woongjin Stars partnership. Maru/Soulkey/sOs on the same team will be sick!

Yea agreed, i don't see Prime doing to well. It is also kinda sad how last seasons Finalists are not even in Proleague anymore.
InnoVation Fighting!!!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 16 2013 12:10 GMT
#128
On November 16 2013 21:09 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 21:06 DiMano wrote:
On November 16 2013 20:56 fx9 wrote:
Maru will have a hard time carrying team Prime. Yeah, like many, I hope for Prime/Woongjin Stars partnership. Maru/Soulkey/sOs on the same team will be sick!

SPL need 6 players Prime:
Maru
ByuN
Creator
GooJila
TerrOr
PenguiN If DH prelims are correct he left KT and joined Prime.

So Prime has 6 good players to perform well in SPL.


However, playing with a 6-man roster isn't great for a team. They'll need one or two more players with at least a minimal chance to beat mediocre to good PL players. I don't doubt that they have a few rookies accessible, but can those win games? If not, all their players are essentially locked in Korea for the PL season.


sOsPrime, SoulkeyPrime
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
November 16 2013 12:11 GMT
#129
A good influx of teams. This is good.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 12:14:26
November 16 2013 12:12 GMT
#130
On November 16 2013 21:09 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 21:06 DiMano wrote:
On November 16 2013 20:56 fx9 wrote:
Maru will have a hard time carrying team Prime. Yeah, like many, I hope for Prime/Woongjin Stars partnership. Maru/Soulkey/sOs on the same team will be sick!

SPL need 6 players Prime:
Maru
ByuN
Creator
GooJila
TerrOr
PenguiN If DH prelims are correct he left KT and joined Prime.

So Prime has 6 good players to perform well in SPL.


However, playing with a 6-man roster isn't great for a team. They'll need one or two more players with at least a minimal chance to beat mediocre to good PL players. I don't doubt that they have a few rookies accessible, but can those win games? If not, all their players are essentially locked in Korea for the PL season.


Prime also has:
Splendid
Chance
Eins

I think they can win some games vs rookies, especially when for example Jin Air do not have a roster better then Prime's one (Only 6 players up to now!!).
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
November 16 2013 12:13 GMT
#131
On November 16 2013 21:01 GTR wrote:
Najin will most likely replace MVP as the '8th' team in the LoL Proleague (since MVP's LoL teams jumped ship to Samsung).

So MVP is a SC2 only member and Najin is a LoL only member.


So that would be CJ, SKT, KT, Jin Air, Samsung, Najin, IM, Prime. With each of them having two teams I wonder if we will actually have 16 teams then, or maybe a club masters format.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
November 16 2013 12:14 GMT
#132
GSTL and proleague need to get their shit together and just merge.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
November 16 2013 12:14 GMT
#133
No SoulKey or sOs in proleague (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

Cool to see Prime again. I hope players like Creator and Byun will get back to their old forms!
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
November 16 2013 12:29 GMT
#134
buja! i knew it... question ist, whats with the woongjin stars...
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
Gendo
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom216 Posts
November 16 2013 12:35 GMT
#135
On November 16 2013 20:46 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 20:44 Gendo wrote:
Pretty good but this means GSTL is no more...

It does?


I think there's not enough teams around to fill both leagues and they can't play in both..shame because GSTL was my favourite
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 16 2013 12:37 GMT
#136
Yay for ProLeague, hail to our Kespa Overlords for trying to save SC2!!!

On November 16 2013 21:09 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 21:06 DiMano wrote:
On November 16 2013 20:56 fx9 wrote:
Maru will have a hard time carrying team Prime. Yeah, like many, I hope for Prime/Woongjin Stars partnership. Maru/Soulkey/sOs on the same team will be sick!

SPL need 6 players Prime:
Maru
ByuN
Creator
GooJila
TerrOr
PenguiN If DH prelims are correct he left KT and joined Prime.

So Prime has 6 good players to perform well in SPL.


However, playing with a 6-man roster isn't great for a team. They'll need one or two more players with at least a minimal chance to beat mediocre to good PL players. I don't doubt that they have a few rookies accessible, but can those win games? If not, all their players are essentially locked in Korea for the PL season.

Also the "6 good players" is quite relative when looking at the roster.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
November 16 2013 12:47 GMT
#137
RIP EG-TL.
Member of the Pirate Party - direct democracy, institutional transparency, and freedom of information
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 16 2013 12:47 GMT
#138
On November 16 2013 21:35 Gendo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 20:46 Zealously wrote:
On November 16 2013 20:44 Gendo wrote:
Pretty good but this means GSTL is no more...

It does?


I think there's not enough teams around to fill both leagues and they can't play in both..shame because GSTL was my favourite


Yes yes I know GSTL is small, but nothing will change for next season. The league is already down to the five of fOu, ST, Azubu, AxA and Azubu. With Prime, IM and MVP joining PL, nothing actually changes.

On November 16 2013 21:37 ACrow wrote:
Yay for ProLeague, hail to our Kespa Overlords for trying to save SC2!!!

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 21:09 Zealously wrote:
On November 16 2013 21:06 DiMano wrote:
On November 16 2013 20:56 fx9 wrote:
Maru will have a hard time carrying team Prime. Yeah, like many, I hope for Prime/Woongjin Stars partnership. Maru/Soulkey/sOs on the same team will be sick!

SPL need 6 players Prime:
Maru
ByuN
Creator
GooJila
TerrOr
PenguiN If DH prelims are correct he left KT and joined Prime.

So Prime has 6 good players to perform well in SPL.


However, playing with a 6-man roster isn't great for a team. They'll need one or two more players with at least a minimal chance to beat mediocre to good PL players. I don't doubt that they have a few rookies accessible, but can those win games? If not, all their players are essentially locked in Korea for the PL season.

Also the "6 good players" is quite relative when looking at the roster.


Obviously - it's Prime we're talking about after all
AdministratorBreak the chains
MicMacAngl
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany11 Posts
November 16 2013 12:52 GMT
#139
PL will be great, but looking at the TOP 10 ELO players right now on main page:

1. Dear
2. sOs
3. INnoVation
4. Polt
5. TaeJa
6. MMA
7. San
8. NaNiwa
9. Jaedong
10. Life

None of them will be there...
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 12:59:01
November 16 2013 12:56 GMT
#140
On November 16 2013 21:52 MicMacAngl wrote:
PL will be great, but looking at the TOP 10 ELO players right now on main page:

1. Dear
2. sOs
3. INnoVation
4. Polt
5. TaeJa
6. MMA
7. San
8. NaNiwa
9. Jaedong
10. Life

None of them will be there...

Maybe it is because there is NOTHING in Korea and I see only KeSPA rookie players owning weekly events. There were some online prelims for DH and IEM but nobody counts these results.

And Top 1 player is the player who has managed to overcome insane Code B and Code A to be here.
There are about dozens of korean players who can do the same they just have no chance and luck.
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