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[A]NaNiwa - Road to Blizzcon #15 - Page 6

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pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
November 08 2013 10:19 GMT
#101
On November 08 2013 19:14 NovemberstOrm wrote:
You can't call the article shit just because the perspective it's written from.
The article speaks the truth about how NaNiwa plays.


Perspective? Could you be more specific?

This article is just missing in so many aspects. It's not just "perspective" lol
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 10:25:03
November 08 2013 10:23 GMT
#102
On November 08 2013 19:19 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 19:14 NovemberstOrm wrote:
You can't call the article shit just because the perspective it's written from.
The article speaks the truth about how NaNiwa plays.


Perspective? Could you be more specific?

This article is just missing in so many aspects. It's not just "perspective" lol

It's written from the perspective that NaNiwa is a lone wolf, he plays too win, his mentality about the game etc etc.
It's not missing any aspects because that's how it was chosen to be written, it could have been written in different ways, just because it's not talking about how glorious NaNiwa is doesn't mean it gives you a right to shit all over it.
Not every article is written the same way nor should they be.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 08 2013 10:24 GMT
#103
God damn it Zealousy, talk about how great Naniwa is next time or there will be an angry mob of faniwas at your virtual TL doorstep.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 10:29:39
November 08 2013 10:27 GMT
#104
PSA: not agreeing with the chosen perspective to preview a player does not mean the article is poorly written. It means you have a different opinion.

We could have had the same boring "This is why X should win blizzcon!"-theme for every player but we chose to find a compelling perspective on each player that's different from the others. Naturally not everything will be covered perfectly.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 10:32:37
November 08 2013 10:28 GMT
#105
On November 08 2013 19:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 19:19 pms wrote:
On November 08 2013 19:14 NovemberstOrm wrote:
You can't call the article shit just because the perspective it's written from.
The article speaks the truth about how NaNiwa plays.


Perspective? Could you be more specific?

This article is just missing in so many aspects. It's not just "perspective" lol

It's written from the perspective that NaNiwa is a lone wolf, he plays too win, his mentality about the game etc etc.
It's not missing any aspects because that's how it was chosen to be written, it could have been written in different ways, just because it's not talking about how glorious NaNiwa is doesn't mean it gives you a right to shit all over it.


This article:
1. Is missing some of the features that other articles have (the title given to each player, but not to Naniwa)
2. Is missing some of the facts about Naniwa (e.g., that he said that SC is his passion and he plays it because of it, not just because he wants to win)
3. Is missing the facts about Naniwa's road to Blizzcon (ironic, isn't it?)
4. Is biased (as you've nicely put it "It's written from a perspective")

All in all, this article is an example of bad journalism and media bias:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_ethics

I'm just starting to realize more and more how bad this article sucks.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 10:33:44
November 08 2013 10:32 GMT
#106
I think you've got something wrong here. We decided to do this so you guys could enjoy a certain perspective for each of these players going into Blizzcon, proposing a certain perspective/storyline to them that we worked out. Zealously covered 3 different players. If you wanted the preview series to address the same points for each player then sorry but this isn't for you. We chose a different route. Journalism ethics has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
November 08 2013 10:33 GMT
#107
On November 08 2013 19:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I think you've got something wrong here. We decided to do this so you guys could enjoy it. Zealously covered 3 different players. If you wanted the preview series to address the same points for each player then sorry but this isn't for you. We chose a different route. Journalism ethics has absolutely nothing to do with it.


It doesn't? Think about it twice.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 08 2013 10:34 GMT
#108
Not every article is written the same way.
Moderatorlickypiddy
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 08 2013 10:36 GMT
#109
On November 08 2013 19:33 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 19:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I think you've got something wrong here. We decided to do this so you guys could enjoy it. Zealously covered 3 different players. If you wanted the preview series to address the same points for each player then sorry but this isn't for you. We chose a different route. Journalism ethics has absolutely nothing to do with it.


It doesn't? Think about it twice.

bloody hell stop being so insufferable
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 10:40:46
November 08 2013 10:39 GMT
#110
Let's face it, you're a giant Naniwa fanboy and you wanted something else. Now you're dissatisfied. That's unfortunate but this article was not made to please Naniwa fanboys. It was to give a certain perspective on Naniwa.

Have you never seen a columnist express their opinion? I think you're heavily mistaking this for an objective series of reports. It's a series of hype previews made to give an interesting (and different!) perspective on each of these players.

Not absolutely everything Naniwa has ever said or done has to be included in something like this.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 10:41:19
November 08 2013 10:40 GMT
#111
On November 08 2013 19:36 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 19:33 pms wrote:
On November 08 2013 19:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I think you've got something wrong here. We decided to do this so you guys could enjoy it. Zealously covered 3 different players. If you wanted the preview series to address the same points for each player then sorry but this isn't for you. We chose a different route. Journalism ethics has absolutely nothing to do with it.


It doesn't? Think about it twice.

bloody hell stop being so insufferable


Look, I know that we are a small community, so we have to keep all together. All what I'm saying, is that even as a small community, we should have standards. In the end, TL is the main text content creator for SC2. And we all care about it.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 10:42:07
November 08 2013 10:41 GMT
#112
On November 08 2013 19:40 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 19:36 opterown wrote:
On November 08 2013 19:33 pms wrote:
On November 08 2013 19:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I think you've got something wrong here. We decided to do this so you guys could enjoy it. Zealously covered 3 different players. If you wanted the preview series to address the same points for each player then sorry but this isn't for you. We chose a different route. Journalism ethics has absolutely nothing to do with it.


It doesn't? Think about it twice.

bloody hell stop being so insufferable


Look, I know that we are a small community, so we have to keep all together. All what I'm saying, is that even as a small community, we should have standards. In the end, TL is the main content creator for SC2. And we all care about it.

you're just as biased as the writer, likely more so

if you can do better, then do it, otherwise stop complaining as much as you are
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 08 2013 10:41 GMT
#113
I think your criticism is fine for the record, I mean where the hell is the title!? Naniwa - The Dragon Slayer come on man give me that
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 08 2013 10:42 GMT
#114
On November 08 2013 19:40 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 19:36 opterown wrote:
On November 08 2013 19:33 pms wrote:
On November 08 2013 19:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I think you've got something wrong here. We decided to do this so you guys could enjoy it. Zealously covered 3 different players. If you wanted the preview series to address the same points for each player then sorry but this isn't for you. We chose a different route. Journalism ethics has absolutely nothing to do with it.


It doesn't? Think about it twice.

bloody hell stop being so insufferable


Look, I know that we are a small community, so we have to keep all together. All what I'm saying, is that even as a small community, we should have standards. In the end, TL is the main content creator for SC2. And we all care about it.


How about this standard: Zealously doesn't get paid to write these articles. He does it purely because he likes giving something to the community. If the standard is shitting on everything passionate people do then count me out as well.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 08 2013 10:42 GMT
#115
hmmm, i think it's a very bold statement, that nani is more polarizing than idra was, to say the very least.
other than that great write up, so hyped!!! Go nani!
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 10:44:56
November 08 2013 10:43 GMT
#116
On November 08 2013 19:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Let's face it, you're a giant Naniwa fanboy and you wanted something else. Now you're dissatisfied. That's unfortunate but this article was not made to please Naniwa fanboys. It was to give a certain perspective on Naniwa.

Have you never seen a columnist express their opinion? I think you're heavily mistaking this for an objective series of reports. It's a series of hype previews made to give an interesting (and different!) perspective on each of these players.

Not absolutely everything Naniwa has ever said or done has to be included in something like this.


Well, I am a giant Naniwa fanboy.

And this article is biased and plain bad.

The facts.


And to answer you:
Yes, a columnist can express his opinion. Does Zealously use forms like "I think", "In my opinion", whatever other forms that are appropriate for the expression of opinion?
Mintie
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia563 Posts
November 08 2013 10:43 GMT
#117
I would have gone with [A]Naniwhiteguy, probably.
blaps
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden14 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 10:46:35
November 08 2013 10:45 GMT
#118
Epicness! I'm so pumped I had to write it down, may it be my second forth post here ever. Let the show start already.
Gravitation cannot be responsible for people falling in love (c) Albert Einstein
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
November 08 2013 10:45 GMT
#119
"It doesn't matter to Naniwa if he's a hero or a villain, all that matters is if he is a winner or a loser."
Perfect.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 08 2013 10:46 GMT
#120
go shit on richard lewis before you shit on TL writers

https://twitter.com/Richard_A_Lewis

more productive
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
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