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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
October 29 2013 08:59 GMT
#501
I can't believe how far people are taking this discussion. Naniwa had a cool idea, Revival doesn't seem to be bothered, it definitely makes the challenger matches more exciting for the viewers and pros have something to play for. So what is there to discuss? If EG filed an official complain at Blizzard or something (well Naniwa is on EG so...) I could see that there was something to discuss. But right now it's just a cool thing to look forward to, calm down .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
October 29 2013 09:20 GMT
#502
Pretty good move by Nani imo. Don't really see the big fuzz. It's not even on a gray area to me.
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria855 Posts
October 29 2013 09:31 GMT
#503
Seeing the tweet, I think this is more like a joke, nothing serious..
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 29 2013 09:32 GMT
#504
On October 29 2013 17:05 Martijn wrote:
My counter argument to that is that in sports you're not allowed to bet on your own team to win either because of the conflict of interest.


But you are allowed to bet on your own team to win.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 29 2013 09:33 GMT
#505
The not-so-fun thing is, that whoever gets #16, has to play Soulkey. And I do not think that either Naniwa or Revival can beat him that easily.
XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
October 29 2013 09:37 GMT
#506
On October 29 2013 18:33 boxerfred wrote:
The not-so-fun thing is, that whoever gets #16, has to play Soulkey. And I do not think that either Naniwa or Revival can beat him that easily.


It's the point of making Blizzcon, not winning ~
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
October 29 2013 09:38 GMT
#507
This is fucking awesome
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
October 29 2013 09:52 GMT
#508
my knee-jerk reaction: no harm, no foul. I don't "think it's cute" like others have said, but I don't immediately see an issue.

thought two: If Revival's opponents are (motivated by outside factors) to do better vs him do we have some harm? Maybe a little.
Is there enough harm to call foul? No, players might already be focused on Revival without the bounty and/or it doesn't make enough of a difference that the rest of the games might suffer.

Other random thoughts:

- what if (for example) EG players had a contract clause that every time they beat a TL player they receive a bonus?
- does it make a difference that Naniwa's bounty is designed FOR HIS BENEFIT? (what if it was Naniwa's fans putting up the bounty?)
- how easily could rules against what he's doing be enforced?

Overall... I don't have a problem with it. He's not betting or fixing a match. He's not putting up a harmful bounty. He's just being Naniwa.

Also.. I hope Revival wins
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 09:53:58
October 29 2013 09:53 GMT
#509
On October 29 2013 18:32 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 17:05 Martijn wrote:
My counter argument to that is that in sports you're not allowed to bet on your own team to win either because of the conflict of interest.


But you are allowed to bet on your own team to win.

I was under the impression that most professional athletes aren't allowed to bet on their own sports league.
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
October 29 2013 09:57 GMT
#510
I used to dislike Nani after his high bm to Nestea ( I still don't know why he did that) but now I'd say he's fucking awesome.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 29 2013 10:02 GMT
#511
On October 29 2013 17:59 Musicus wrote:
I can't believe how far people are taking this discussion. Naniwa had a cool idea, Revival doesn't seem to be bothered, it definitely makes the challenger matches more exciting for the viewers and pros have something to play for. So what is there to discuss? If EG filed an official complain at Blizzard or something (well Naniwa is on EG so...) I could see that there was something to discuss. But right now it's just a cool thing to look forward to, calm down .


Wiat what ? Naniwa is EG now ? Man... i shouldn't have stopped follwing starcraft to catch up my 3seasons of walking dead

Really ? Or did i misunderstood it ?

I don't like Naniwa but his idea is fun i'll give him that. Did EG did a couter offer (not lose to revival but => beat naniwa) ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
worosei
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia198 Posts
October 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#512
Naniwa is the best.

He's killing esports in a good way



Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
October 29 2013 11:22 GMT
#513
Its kind of sad how controversy and negativity seems to follow Naniwa everywhere, even when he doesn't do anything inherently bad.

I really don't see the issue here at all and I can't understand what all the fuss is about. A bounty doesn't violate any morals or code of conduct regarding fair play. The players already have incentives to well in tournaments and leagues because it gives them better prizes or better seeding, a bounty on an opposing player merely sweetens the deal.

A bribe to throw the game, on the other hand, goes against everything sportsmanship, competing should be about always giving your best and struggling to achieve victory under the most auspicious of circumstances, a bribe directly contradicts that, that's why we've made it illegal.

Nani didn't offer Revival money to throw, he just offered Revivals opponents a bounty, an extra incentive to beat Revival, really nothing wrong with that.

This time I think Naniwa is in the clear, and he actually deserves some credit for coming up with an awesome idea.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
October 29 2013 11:27 GMT
#514
On October 29 2013 18:33 boxerfred wrote:
The not-so-fun thing is, that whoever gets #16, has to play Soulkey. And I do not think that either Naniwa or Revival can beat him that easily.

Doesn't matter, $5k is on the line.
reki-
Profile Joined July 2008
Netherlands327 Posts
October 29 2013 11:32 GMT
#515
Leave it to TL members to scrutinize every detail every player does...
>BD
FatCat_13
Profile Joined July 2013
Russian Federation117 Posts
October 29 2013 11:40 GMT
#516
Franky, I hardly believe the players would accept whatever bounty Naniwa to offer. He's a well-known BM the most part of the SC2 community turned back on.

Nice try, Naniwa, but you better play better youself next time.
Are you human? being...
sOda~
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom441 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 11:41:29
October 29 2013 11:40 GMT
#517
I'd pay some thugs to go and break a few of revivals fingers.
IM THE SHIT BITCH
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 29 2013 11:42 GMT
#518
Naniwa is more of a PR genius than incontrol, and he doesnt even know it. 26 pages... wp. I love when players increase the hype and stakes. Naniwa is one of the best at it because he speaks his mind and is so freaking competitive.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
October 29 2013 11:48 GMT
#519
Was this Alliance's idea? or EGs?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 29 2013 11:49 GMT
#520
On October 29 2013 20:48 Kishin2 wrote:
Was this Alliance's idea? or EGs?

EG=Alliance.
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