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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
October 24 2013 13:57 GMT
#101
And now you know why nobody picked him up
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 24 2013 13:58 GMT
#102
With such a massive influx of players from Kespa it's only normal that those who either can't keep up or dislike the game to leave.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
October 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#103
On October 24 2013 21:36 Muffloe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 21:14 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On October 24 2013 21:06 Muffloe wrote:
On October 24 2013 18:35 coin_au_carre wrote:
Ah a very nice news for Broodwar . Keep the retiring spirit !


So its better to play some bw now and then, but let the whole franchise die?

Your comment is idd a Malevolent Creation, ifuknowadamean

They're two different sports nothing is about to die. Players who want to play BW certainly don't owe it to you to play SC2. Let people pick the games they want with devotion and passion and SC2 will be a lot better for it.


Hi Nazgul. I find your reply very valid, although my comment might've been misinterpreted. I didn't mean that Zeros retirement in particular would kill the scene, I just meant that it probably would just hurt the franchise if everyone in general ditched the game blizzard/kespa chose, and went to half/spare time bw

Of course, I also wish Zero well, and hope that he will find satisfaction with whatever he will now do

If the game is not attractive enough it should not be inflated artificially by coercing people into playing it. If it's a big enough problem to hurt the franchise then the franchise simply isn't good enough. The solution is then to improve the game, not pretend to like it.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#104
On October 24 2013 22:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
And now you know why nobody picked him up

Well, it was pretty clear from the end of waiver actually. Same with free i suppose, by the way, where is him?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
October 24 2013 14:02 GMT
#105
aww zero

good luck, zero forever qt :3
TranslatorBaa!
coin_au_carre
Profile Joined March 2008
France8 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 14:08:57
October 24 2013 14:06 GMT
#106
On October 24 2013 21:36 Muffloe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 21:14 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On October 24 2013 21:06 Muffloe wrote:
On October 24 2013 18:35 coin_au_carre wrote:
Ah a very nice news for Broodwar . Keep the retiring spirit !


So its better to play some bw now and then, but let the whole franchise die?

Your comment is idd a Malevolent Creation, ifuknowadamean

They're two different sports nothing is about to die. Players who want to play BW certainly don't owe it to you to play SC2. Let people pick the games they want with devotion and passion and SC2 will be a lot better for it.


Hi Nazgul. I find your reply very valid, although my comment might've been misinterpreted. I didn't mean that Zeros retirement in particular would kill the scene, I just meant that it probably would just hurt the franchise if everyone in general ditched the game blizzard/kespa chose, and went to half/spare time bw

Of course, I also wish Zero well, and hope that he will find satisfaction with whatever he will now do


Well, most ex-BW players retire because they find Broodwar more attractive compared to SC2.
I do not think that SC2 will die because of that
And if it was the case :
- SC2 will die like BW died because of SC2 ?
- You cannot force people who don't enjoy SC2 to stay. They might get better salary on SC2 but they have the guts to retire to live their passion. This explains a lot.
- This would maybe change Blizzard behaviour to make SC2 more interesting ?

Now hope that Zero will be back on Broodwar !

edit : I agree with #662
DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 14:07:37
October 24 2013 14:07 GMT
#107
Browder didnt invent banelings




He even dropped them from overlords lol.

I would love to see Zero stream BW.
My wrist really started to flare up. My colossi number started to pile up and with the last of my concentration I prepared for a win.
renezerg
Profile Joined May 2007
Peru186 Posts
October 24 2013 14:08 GMT
#108
OMG I am so sad now. The prince of queens fighting !!!
gg
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 24 2013 14:08 GMT
#109
On October 24 2013 23:07 DinoToss wrote:
Browder didnt invent banelings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaGtjWL5mZo



He even dropped them from overlords lol.

I would love to see Zero stream BW.

Yeah, but he made them qt.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19367 Posts
October 24 2013 14:11 GMT
#110
On October 24 2013 22:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
And now you know why nobody picked him up

TotalBiscuit, I know this is off topic, but I recently read the gamasutra article on you and as a game developer hope that everything turns out well for you.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3836 Posts
October 24 2013 14:13 GMT
#111
On October 24 2013 21:12 a9arnn wrote:
Nobody will ever use queens as well as you, ZerO...

rorooooo
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
gustavohmp
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil139 Posts
October 24 2013 14:15 GMT
#112
Great news!
JangBi will go the finals.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 24 2013 14:18 GMT
#113
One of the best Zerg players and the heart of WJS. All the best in his future.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
October 24 2013 14:30 GMT
#114
On October 24 2013 18:34 papaz wrote:
Too many retirements. We should instead see the rise of new players.

The game is only 3 years old.

Sad.

We do see that, but those don't get a news article. They just slowly be more prominent.
xHerodotusx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom114 Posts
October 24 2013 14:36 GMT
#115
ZerO, you were always my number one.

Going to miss you, man.
ZerO - Seal - Life - Taeja - Parting - Squirtle
GatsbyTheGreat
Profile Joined October 2013
68 Posts
October 24 2013 14:36 GMT
#116
On October 24 2013 22:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
And now you know why nobody picked him up


What does this sentence mean? Someone help me plz, is this trying to take a shot at Zero or just saying he wanted to retire, so he didn't join any team.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 24 2013 14:39 GMT
#117
Zero vs Flash / Fantasy / Jangbi, broodling on Bisu's high templars, crazy games vs Jaedong. Never forget.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
October 24 2013 14:40 GMT
#118
On October 24 2013 23:36 GatsbyTheGreat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 22:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
And now you know why nobody picked him up


What does this sentence mean? Someone help me plz, is this trying to take a shot at Zero or just saying he wanted to retire, so he didn't join any team.


Whatever gets your drama-juices flowing more, obviously.

But it just means that teams knew he was retiring before the twitter announcement.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 24 2013 14:42 GMT
#119
On October 24 2013 23:36 GatsbyTheGreat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 22:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
And now you know why nobody picked him up


What does this sentence mean? Someone help me plz, is this trying to take a shot at Zero or just saying he wanted to retire, so he didn't join any team.


Zero wanted too much money from Woongjin, and no one else wanted to pay that much. So he was given the prospect of either lowering his salary or going team less.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
GatsbyTheGreat
Profile Joined October 2013
68 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 14:48:00
October 24 2013 14:43 GMT
#120
On October 24 2013 23:40 Daswollvieh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 23:36 GatsbyTheGreat wrote:
On October 24 2013 22:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
And now you know why nobody picked him up


What does this sentence mean? Someone help me plz, is this trying to take a shot at Zero or just saying he wanted to retire, so he didn't join any team.


Whatever gets your drama-juices flowing more, obviously.

But it just means that teams knew he was retiring before the twitter announcement.


Then I will choose to believe the drama one. The only place without drama is where nobody lives.
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