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WCS Grand Finals Format and Seedings - Page 2

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Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 21:07:57
October 21 2013 21:06 GMT
#21
On October 22 2013 05:58 smogg wrote:
Show nested quote +
Ties within the top 16 WCS players will be decided by cumulative points earned only in World Championship Series America, Europe, Korea, and Season Finals events. If a tie remains, it will be settled through points earned only in WCS Tier 1 events. If the players in question are still tied, seeding will be decided by coin-toss.

This means if Revival gets 1st or 2nd in his Challanger group, he's gonna surpass Naniwa ;( Which would mean that if even a single other player gets 3200+ points, Naniwa is out... T.T

No that's to determine the seed, like 15th and 16th players are tied so to determine if which one will have the 15 and 16th seed. One gets 15th so he plays vs 2nd seed and the other gets 16th and plays vs 1st seed.

For ties for the 16th place to quality it says: (as mentioned previously)

Ties for qualification to the Global Finals
If there is a tie across the Global Finals cutoff, the players in question will travel to BlizzCon to play an offline, best-of-five match to decide who will be seeded into the WCS Global Finals bracket.

WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
October 21 2013 21:07 GMT
#22
So i guess Blizzard already gave Polt 750 points for this season's finals instead of 500. Are they trying to go for some prediction here?
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
October 21 2013 21:22 GMT
#23
high possibility of Jaedong vs Naniwa rematch
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
October 21 2013 21:23 GMT
#24
15 koreans and naniwa. LOL! Epic if he manages to get far, but I doubt it.
England will fight to the last American
Kheve
Profile Joined May 2013
323 Posts
October 21 2013 21:23 GMT
#25
ah well they should at least allow seed 1-8 to pick their first opponent. 3 more weeks to go. online watching we only get 2 days worth of matches though i suppose there will be vods later.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
October 21 2013 21:29 GMT
#26
I feel bad for whoever gets in MVPs way.
"NO" -Has
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
October 21 2013 21:37 GMT
#27
On October 22 2013 05:58 redpeople wrote:
maru vs bomber?

I think its Maru vs Taeja
Freelancer veteran
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
October 21 2013 21:37 GMT
#28
Pretty legit way to do everything honestly... For once I gotta say I'm completely happy about everything haha
SooYoung-Noona!
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 22:21:39
October 21 2013 22:18 GMT
#29
I hope there are no/few PvP, PvZ, or ZvZ's in the Ro16. I am not particularly rooting for a particular race, but it will be a lot more interesting if it is not all Terrans, even though I enjoy high level TvT.

(Though, if a race has to die out, Protoss can be it. Protoss = considerably higher chance of boring games)
T P Z sagi
j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
October 21 2013 22:27 GMT
#30
Naniwa vs Innovation or Jaedong maybe...

:D
someone_elses_lies@live.fr
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
October 21 2013 22:48 GMT
#31
Awesome. I was hoping they would use this exact format, it's the only thing that would've felt right. Totally supportive of this, especially the seeding.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 21 2013 22:48 GMT
#32
On October 22 2013 05:55 XaCez wrote:
Feels utterly bizarre to use a different format for the Grand Finals in comparison to both the regional and seasonal finals.

Feels pretty normal to me. BlizzCon is not a season finals. It's way different and bigger. However I would have preferred a double elimination bracket.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
October 21 2013 22:51 GMT
#33
On October 22 2013 04:53 Zealously wrote:
So are we getting another Naniwa vs Innovation stomp? Cool

Actually it's quite possible that Polt or Jaedong will end up no.1
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
October 21 2013 22:52 GMT
#34
single elimination bo5 is the BEST system for viewers, not for players but better for viewers
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
October 21 2013 22:53 GMT
#35
On October 22 2013 04:51 Kinon wrote:
Bo5 until the finals? That's fantastic! With such top players, it's gonna be a joy watching the tournament.

Yeah, but single elimination
Plat Support Main #believe
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
October 21 2013 22:59 GMT
#36
TaeJa vs Maru omg that would be so amazing
Writer#1 CJ fan | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/508947-wcs-dreamhack-austin-interviews
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
October 21 2013 23:03 GMT
#37
There is still hope for Naniwa!

Making all the matches Bo5 will make for some sick series!
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Comsat
Profile Joined June 2013
United States58 Posts
October 21 2013 23:05 GMT
#38
On October 22 2013 05:01 Heyoka wrote:
I'm a little sad at single elim 16 player bracket but I guess they gotta do what they can with the time/setup available.


What do you expect? EVERY single pro sport does a single elim when it gets to bracket phase. Do you see teams in the NBA/NFL/MLB getting a second chance when they get knocked out? I don't get why so many people in esports cry for a second chance.... A best of 5 is plenty enough games where the better player will win.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 21 2013 23:08 GMT
#39
On October 22 2013 07:48 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 05:55 XaCez wrote:
Feels utterly bizarre to use a different format for the Grand Finals in comparison to both the regional and seasonal finals.

Feels pretty normal to me. BlizzCon is not a season finals. It's way different and bigger. However I would have preferred a double elimination bracket.


I think this is fine from a hype and good games point of view, MLG winter used the same system with bo5 single elimination and it was one of the best tournaments ever.
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
October 21 2013 23:12 GMT
#40
I feel the double elimination is only really important when people get eliminated in short series. Plus it removes any chance of people crying over any outcome when there are rematches in double elim this way.

I'm very excited for this, although I have missed most of the last major tournaments. As always, go Mvp !
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