On October 16 2013 09:38 BigFan wrote: "And even though Naniwa ultimately failed against Life, only a few of those games were obvious victories for the Zerg prodigy. Several of NaNiwa's losses came down to minuscule mistakes like a misplaced zealot or a slightly late forcefield." a little bias don't you think? Life lost that third game against Naniwa because he got cocky and decided to start playing around. How do I know? We saw him manner hatchery during his attack and then proceed to lose right after. Even life himself was laughing after that game. He knew that he overdid it with the cockiness lol. He almost lost game 4 as a result of that as well XD Game 5 was lost by life also due to his mistake. His greater spire finished but he was too hasty in setting up a contain before he started morphing his corruptors so Naniwa moved in right before he did. Honestly, I feel like Naniwa got lucky otherwise life would've taken that too lol.
Good writeup otherwise. Life stomped Naniwa and probably would've won 4-0 if it wasn't for game 3. That game 1 though, I would recommend over the rest. Life came back for what seemed like a deficient with amazing money fungals on some zealots effectively cutting a good chunk of Naniwa's army and then proceeded to demolish him afterwards. Nevertheless, the games were good to watch
Naniwa lost Game 1 and 4 also due to his own mistakes (played too passive Game 1 when having a lead, did not kill the Hydra Den in Game 4) . Also, there is barely a foreign protoss (and not many korean either) who would have been able to hold Lifes Attack in Game 3 and 4.
DT are insanely effective vs Life's style of play with counters everywhere. When there's a DT in the choke, roaches can't kill the zealot and runby. He could have warped in DTs as well instead of zealots which couldn't hold off the roaches and would eventually burrow and regen. I thought that was above and beyond Naniwa's biggest flaw in play throughout the entire series in the games he had DT Shrine and the games he didn't.
On October 16 2013 10:31 Whatson wrote: If Life hadn't spent most of the last half of game 3 trolling around it would've been 4-0.
Oh well...Life still showed he was the superior player, even though at times he tried his hardest to go full-foreigner.
If Naniwa had killed the hydra den in game 4, or warped in 1-2 DTs in his natural, he would have won game 4 and it would have been 2-2. If game 5 would have gone the same it would then be 2-3 in favour of Naniwa. And we will never know how game 6 would end with different spawn positions, but at all other spawn positions Life wouldn't have been able to scout the dark shrine.
I don't see how people can possibly say that Life won this easily when it was damn close, besides by being terribly biased. Is it so hard to accept Naniwa could beat Life?
On October 16 2013 17:01 Zealously wrote: You can't talk about how close Naniwa was to winning both games without talking about Life's Tefel-level throws
I also don't want to imply that Naniwa should have won it, I just think it is really biased to act like Life won it easily and it wasn't really a challenge for him.
I really enjoyed following Naniwa through the tournament, the great series against San, and I simply couldn't believe how he could get back in the semis against Hyun after being down 2-0. I had given up all hope myself. I expect that anyone would be a bit low on adrenalin in the final after having gone through such an intense match series in the semis.
Amazing tournament and 2 players I like won so I was really happy about everything except the final result in which I would have wanted to see NaNiwa win instead, but hey Life deserved to win and played amazingly all tournament
Even though I'm Swedish and even though I like Naniwa, I'm so happy Life finally got another title! He was my all-time favourite WoL player and I've missed watching him kill.
On October 16 2013 17:01 Zealously wrote: You can't talk about how close Naniwa was to winning both games without talking about Life's Tefel-level throws
Throwish, but Tefel-level is definately pushing it..
On October 16 2013 16:07 FabledIntegral wrote: DT are insanely effective vs Life's style of play with counters everywhere. When there's a DT in the choke, roaches can't kill the zealot and runby. He could have warped in DTs as well instead of zealots which couldn't hold off the roaches and would eventually burrow and regen. I thought that was above and beyond Naniwa's biggest flaw in play throughout the entire series in the games he had DT Shrine and the games he didn't.
And if he brings an overseer this doesn't work. It's the reason why Naniwa lost Game 6 as he tried to transition to double stargate.
Starcraft is a game of Strategy and well placed attacks. Naniwa could of made this a 7 Game series but out off all the races Protoss is the race you cant make mistakes with and win. Some of the mistakes that Naniwa did to me, cost him some games. Now i know if you make a mistake with Zerg or Terran it can cost you the game but when looking at all races Protoss is the one where if you lose your main army or if you allow lings to run in and do damage you are extremely behind.
I was in love with the gameplay and PvZ is my Fav match to watch. I give Naniwa SO much credit for holding off incredible attacks from Life. My Jaw was dropping when i saw Naniwa hold off a massive attack. Personally Naniwa is the Best foreigner out there right now. Scarlett is just a tad behind him currently due to the break she had.
I think this game is pretty well balanced and although i was sad to see my Protoss brother go down by a Zerg i enjoyed all the games played.
On October 16 2013 12:28 tili wrote: Life is so dominant in bo7. He looks like a different player compared with bo3.
He watched a foreigner (albeit Nani is amazing) play a 5 game PvZ semi then beat him in a close Bo7. You're not making sense.
It was only close because life was overconfident and playing around. Had life tried his best it would have been a 4-0 bopping. Anyone who watched that series would know that. It only looked close because life let it look like that with his fooling around.
On October 16 2013 12:28 tili wrote: Life is so dominant in bo7. He looks like a different player compared with bo3.
He watched a foreigner (albeit Nani is amazing) play a 5 game PvZ semi then beat him in a close Bo7. You're not making sense.
It was only close because life was overconfident and playing around. Had life tried his best it would have been a 4-0 bopping. Anyone who watched that series would know that. It only looked close because life let it look like that with his fooling around.
Naniwa only lost because he was overconfident. Had Naniwa tried his best it would have been a 4-0 bopping. Anyone who watches that series would know that. It only looked close because Naniwa let it look like this with his fooling around.
Because of course, imagine that a non-Korean would beat Life, impossible. In the end it doesn't even matter, if Life would have lost due to overconfidence he would still have lost because he couldn't handle it.
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Life lost that third game against Naniwa because he got cocky and decided to start playing around. How do I know? We saw him manner hatchery during his attack and then proceed to lose right after. Even life himself was laughing after that game. He knew that he overdid it with the cockiness lol. He almost lost game 4 as a result of that as well XD Game 5 was lost by life also due to his mistake. His greater spire finished but he was too hasty in setting up a contain before he started morphing his corruptors so Naniwa moved in right before he did. Honestly, I feel like Naniwa got lucky otherwise life would've taken that too lol.
