EPTOn October 12 2013 01:45 ETisME wrote:
#thingsthatmkpdoes would one day be trending on Twitter!
#thingsthatmkpdoes would one day be trending on Twitter!
Lol, one day it will... one day
Goodnight Sweet King - Page 3
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
Lol, one day it will... one day | ||
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robson1
3632 Posts
On October 12 2013 01:42 Fluffboll wrote: Why are you in this thread at all? You only came in here to hate on MKP. Please be kind and stay out of threads that involves people you don't enjoy watching and let the people that actually do like the person have a nice hate-free thread. Why are the SC2 community such an awful place? Because of people like you. Yeah. Because to say you don't like Player X for his playstyle instantly makes me not only poison to the community but also a terrible human being. I was not hateful at all, I applauded the OP for his well written write up and wished MKP best of luck for his future. This is a thread dedicated to MKPs tremendous impact on the scene. I don't think he had that much of an impact aside from the fact that a strong part of the western community liked him better than other koreans. That's why I think it's more than okay to voice this opinion in such a thread. But of course you're entitled to your opinion and may wish cancer upon me or something, if you have to. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On October 12 2013 01:45 Psychobabas wrote: No, he is right. MarineKing didnt innovate anything or bring something new to the table. He just did everything better than most Terrans back then, which is sadly, a lot of allins. MKP did plenty in his career and if you can't see that then you didn't follow starcraft well at all, or biased. | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens2/gomcam/1259 [edit] this one too, I dunno how artosis kept a straight face http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/gomcam/1418 | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On October 12 2013 01:46 robson1 wrote: Yeah. Because to say you don't like Player X for his playstyle instantly makes me not only poison to the community but also a terrible human being. I was not hateful at all, I applauded the OP for his well written write up and wished MKP best of luck for his future. This is a thread dedicated to MKPs tremendous impact on the scene. I don't think he had that much of an impact aside from the fact that a strong part of the western community liked him better than other koreans. That's why I think it's more than okay to voice this opinion in such a thread. But of course you're entitled to your opinion and may wish cancer upon me or something, if you have to. On October 12 2013 00:56 robson1 wrote: Well written. although I never understood how anybody did not haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate Marineking as a player. He basically was the embodiment of everything that was wrong with terran in 2010-2011. He basically only won games by baceracing, 2 raxing, and stimming up ramps without vision. He also cockblocked jinro from becoming the one foreigner that made it to the GSL finals. How epic would that MVP vs. Jinro final have been? Also... them glasses :ugh: I do however acknowledge that MKP was legit good in late 2011 early 2012. But I never go the obsession with this guy. heh | ||
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robson1
3632 Posts
On October 12 2013 01:51 opterown wrote: MKP did plenty in his career and if you can't see that then you didn't follow starcraft well at all, or biased. Because you are not biased at all  | ||
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robson1
3632 Posts
As a player. I hated his playstyle in 2010/2011. | ||
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lolmlg
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Hider
Denmark9448 Posts
On October 12 2013 01:39 DTDstarcraft wrote: My all time favorite highlight. MKP + amazing crowd + Khaldor/wolf = perfect I honestly think most master league terans will split the same way vs slowbanes. Thats not particularly difficult actually. | ||
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Josh_Video
Canada798 Posts
http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls3/vod/67627/?set=1# Forever, will he be missed. | ||
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Grouch
Canada152 Posts
On October 12 2013 01:51 opterown wrote: MKP did plenty in his career and if you can't see that then you didn't follow starcraft well at all, or biased. "MarineKing didnt innovate anything or bring something new to the table" Hes not referring to his career just what or how he changed sc2, what he won isn't relevant to the argument. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On October 12 2013 02:10 Hider wrote: I honestly think most master league terans will split the same way vs slowbanes. Thats not particularly difficult actually. Yeah, more Life messing up by losing all of his glings before banes can connect ^^. | ||
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CakeSauc3
United States1437 Posts
On October 12 2013 01:59 lolmlg wrote: GSL wins aren't really any more relevant than any other major titles, all things considered. There are some pretty flaky GSL winners. The guy was a notable champion any way you slice it. I feel the same way. Especially when the rivalry between MKP and Parting, and then MKP and DRG were going on... MKP was amazing during that time period. The championships that he won from other tournaments, while not individual GSL championships, should still count as great victories. While we remember him as the Kong, it's only in a joking and love-able kind of way. He was one of the best and most consistent players in WoL, and for me he was hands-down the most iconic player of SC2 as a whole. | ||
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Incursion011
United States5 Posts
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
Probably safe to wait reading this after the IEM Finals when my body is full of Hype  | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
On October 12 2013 01:59 lolmlg wrote: GSL wins aren't really any more relevant than any other major titles, all things considered. There are some pretty flaky GSL winners. The guy was a notable champion any way you slice it. I don't think that is true at all. Maybe it was true in the very early days of SC2 when the entire scene was more volatile then a volcano in the ring of fire, and back when the GSL format had a 75% retention rate, not the 25% of today. But more and more as time went by the GSL became more and more recognized, and rightly so as the highest skill level tournament in the entire world. And this was in large part due to its format, the best of its kind till then. A brutal, unforgiving massive offline qualifier BO3 single eliminator that weeded out the weaker players. Your reward for that, was being thrown into another merciless gauntlet that was Code A, where you fought not only to get into Code S but a lot of times just to stay in Code A. And finally you where reward by being put tournament with emphasis put on careful and meticulous planning, against players that where if not your equals, clearly better then you. Today WCS EU and NA basically copy the GSL, so it has lost a lot of what made it unique, but it still retains the absolute highest level of play in the world, maybe outside of the seasonal finals. A GSL win in those times was a big deal, and was a lot more relevant then other tournaments. Winning a GSL gave much, much more recognition then other tournaments, especially once we figured out that GSL champions where just as adept as at playing the weekend format and would often times come and crush face and enhance their wealth further. Edit: And since I went so off topic I'd to now amend that by, thanking the OP for taking the time to make a tribute thread for one of the most iconic and unique SC2 players we've had over the years. My heart hurts with grief now at the thought we will never see a MKP comeback, a return to his former glory, the same way Mvp, MMA and Polt have done in recent times. Good night sweet king, and good luck, may you never be forgotten and may you never forget us, and hopefully, just come back one day. | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On October 12 2013 02:10 Hider wrote: I honestly think most master league terans will split the same way vs slowbanes. Thats not particularly difficult actually. These comments really frustrate me, they remind me of TBBT's Sheldon quote "Gravity would have been apparent to me without the apple". It's very easy to see something after it has been shown to you, but at that time, sure people split slightly, but nobody was splitting to the extend he did, which blew up the meta game, where both sides had to adjust to blings not being a hard counter to marines anymore. | ||
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djack0666
Belarus219 Posts
This is a sad moment to SC2. MKP leaving makes this game even bleaker than it already was.. Fare thee well, King. Gonna have to figure out how to follow you in lol | ||
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
I will miss you  You better do well in LoL! | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
Thats why he had gone so far in many early GSL because the game hasnt developed much, MKP at that time could overwhelm most people with sharper micro or much more aggressiveness. Hell, that marine split, even watching on a stutter GOM Player stream, was the most spectacular starcraft2 back then, but it's by no means "revolutionary" by definition. However, that trait didnt allow him to reach any trophy either because theres still players like Nestea (who simply figured out the game faster than anyone else) or MVP - the very antithesis of MKP who is a strategical mastermind with nerves of steel. And you can look at how much MVP has won. Worse yet, players like mvp popped out more & more and yet his stubbornness hasnt changed. That results in him consistently not being able to get past groupstage for like 1.5 years iirc and eventually fading to black, albeit a few weekend foreign successes which fit his style. MKP was an important figure in sc2 but it's only fitting that hes never been able to win a GSL. | ||
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