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United States33492 Posts
After the conclusion of the final WCS EU Ro16 group, the brackets for the elimination round have been drawn. Three Europeans in Nerchio, Targa, and VortiX will take on the Koreans MMA, Stardust, MC, Genius, and Duckdeok, who look to do their part in allowing Korea to sweep single season of WCS in 2013.
The Ro8 to grand finals will take place on October 5th and 6th.
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So no terrans... Last time I checked MMA was Terran
Oh well gogo MMA and Targa
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Huzzah, Vortix is going down \o/
Hoping for an MMA/Stardust/Targa/Genius semis
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United States97276 Posts
Genius is going to win this season!
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They signed MMA as zerg ^^
Good thing for Targa, now he knows what matchup he has to practice. Edit: is Naniwa in europe? If that was the case and he's willing to help, I bet Targa has big chances actually.
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Gracias!
I feel like somehow targa is going to win this tournament. He's the true dark horse of this tourney. It's crazy that he's gotten this far. As for nerchio vs MMA.....that just sucks.... I wanted nerchio to at Least have a chance to get to the ro4
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If any Korean is to win this season, I'm rooting for Genius. Otherwise, go Targa,/Nerchio/Vortix!
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United States23455 Posts
Fun fact: There was a collective groan from the crowd when Genius was not picked to face MC in the quarterfinals.
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I hope at least one European makes it to the top 5.
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On September 28 2013 09:57 GTPGlitch wrote: Huzzah, Vortix is going down \o/
Hoping for an MMA/Stardust/Targa/Genius semis
Lol no he is not ^^ he is going to dismantle stardust
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MMA for my head pick, Genius as my dark horse.
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MMA Stardust MC DuckDeok
Stardust Duckdeok
Wait what?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
I like how they made MMA zerg
racial balance wooo
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Damn, the Koreans are really lucky with the draws in WCS EU this season, first in the RO16 groups and now again. They never have to knock out each other (except the number of times it can't be avoided) although they couldn't really complain if that would be the case, since they sometimes finished behind foreigners in the RO32 and RO16 groups.
I wish the foreigners would be rewarded with all-foreigner matchups for their wins over Koreans in the groups. Instead now it probably happens that there were a decent number of foreigner-over-Korean wins in the group stages but the Koreans still get all the top 5 spots in the end, not being punished for their group losses to foreigners in any way.
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Canada16217 Posts
MMA vs Genius finals calling it now!
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Targa's going to the final, only P's to get through.
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Vortix gonna take it
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On September 28 2013 10:25 Paragleiber wrote: Damn, the Koreans are really lucky with the draws in WCS EU this season, first in the RO16 groups and now again. They never have to knock out each other (except the number of times it can't be avoided) although they couldn't really complain if that would be the case, since they sometimes finished behind foreigners in the RO32 and RO16 groups.
I wish the foreigners would be rewarded with all-foreigner matchups for their wins over Koreans in the groups. Instead now it probably happens that there were a decent number of foreigner-over-Korean wins in the group stages but the Koreans still get all the top 5 spots in the end, not being punished for their group losses to foreigners in any way.
The groups were seeded based on their Ro16 finish and group to avoid meeting each other again
I am not sure what the heck you are even going on about
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On September 28 2013 10:08 KingMel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 09:57 GTPGlitch wrote: Huzzah, Vortix is going down \o/
Hoping for an MMA/Stardust/Targa/Genius semis Lol no he is not ^^ he is going to dismantle stardust
Haha except stardust's PvZ
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On September 28 2013 10:25 Paragleiber wrote: Damn, the Koreans are really lucky with the draws in WCS EU this season, first in the RO16 groups and now again. They never have to knock out each other (except the number of times it can't be avoided) although they couldn't really complain if that would be the case, since they sometimes finished behind foreigners in the RO32 and RO16 groups.
I wish the foreigners would be rewarded with all-foreigner matchups for their wins over Koreans in the groups. Instead now it probably happens that there were a decent number of foreigner-over-Korean wins in the group stages but the Koreans still get all the top 5 spots in the end, not being punished for their group losses to foreigners in any way.
yea koreans are so lucky that they finish in the top 8 every single tournament.. how are they getting so lucky??
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winner of MMA STARDUST to win it all
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Gogo MMA! Son of Boxer has returned.
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Yeah, not that many terrans have made it till 1/4. But to make MMA switch is hilarious
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go MMA this is your season!
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On September 28 2013 10:25 Paragleiber wrote: Damn, the Koreans are really lucky with the draws in WCS EU this season, first in the RO16 groups and now again. They never have to knock out each other (except the number of times it can't be avoided) although they couldn't really complain if that would be the case, since they sometimes finished behind foreigners in the RO32 and RO16 groups.
I wish the foreigners would be rewarded with all-foreigner matchups for their wins over Koreans in the groups. Instead now it probably happens that there were a decent number of foreigner-over-Korean wins in the group stages but the Koreans still get all the top 5 spots in the end, not being punished for their group losses to foreigners in any way. If foreigners can take series over Koreans in group stages, what's stopping them from winning in bracket stages?
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I don't think stardust will lose to vortix, but if he does then MMA has a clear shot to the finals
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Russian Federation604 Posts
Vortix have a pretty good shape, but Stardust is PvZ monsterr...
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Time for MMA to show the power of Korean Terrans!
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MMA - Nerchio 3 - 1 Vortix - Stardust 1- 3 MC - Targa 3-0 Genius - duckdeok 3-2
MMA - Stardust 3 - 1 Mc - Genius 2-3
Genius - MMA 3-2
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I think MMA might go all the way this time. 'bout freakin' time !
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On September 28 2013 09:57 ShadowGoliath wrote: So no terrans... Last time I checked MMA was Terran
Oh well gogo MMA and Targa
MMA can play offrace zerg for fun and still win
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Vortix will probably destroy Stardust tbh
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On September 28 2013 16:56 Nerchio wrote: Vortix will probably destroy Stardust tbh Would you say he'd...poop all over Stardust?
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Vortix vs TargA finalls ezzz
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On September 28 2013 12:28 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 10:08 KingMel wrote:On September 28 2013 09:57 GTPGlitch wrote: Huzzah, Vortix is going down \o/
Hoping for an MMA/Stardust/Targa/Genius semis Lol no he is not ^^ he is going to dismantle stardust Haha except stardust's PvZ
Just look at VortiX's win ratio in ZvP... he is a monster, only MMA can stop him in this bracket
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MMA 3-1 Nerchio Stardust 3-1 Vortix MC 3-0 Targa Genius 3-1 duckdeok
MMA 3-2 Stardust Genius 3-0 MC
Genius 4-1 MMA
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MMA 2 - 3 Nerchio VortiX 3 - 2 Stardust MC 3 - 1 Targa Genius 3 - 2 Duckdeok
Nerchio 1 - 3 VortiX MC 3 - 2 Genius
VortiX 4 - 2 MC
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I can't see MMA not winning this season. Miles ahead of the rest.
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I don't expect any of the four non-protosses to win. :S I personally haven't seen Genius play for a long time but I'm going to suppose he's playing well, in which case I think the tossers are the strongest.
Hasn't MMA's TvP been dodgy vs good protosses in recent times?
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On September 28 2013 18:18 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: I don't expect any of the four non-protosses to win. :S I personally haven't seen Genius play for a long time but I'm going to suppose he's playing well, in which case I think the tossers are the strongest.
Hasn't MMA's TvP been dodgy vs good protosses in recent times? This month MMA has beaten Crank, Alicia, Trap, Dear, Avenge, TAiLS, Babyknight, Daisy and duckdeok.
His TvP is VERY good.
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Really hard for Europeans making it to next round,but not impossible at least for Vortix and Targa. I dont see MMA loosing this: a good Terran is too cost efficient at many maps with his new medivacs+marines+mines. As Zerg you just dry out on your 3 at max 4 bases and cant really take more, if you dont have a huge lead.
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I am sooo hoping for the MC vs Genius match and some great smack talking xD
Otherwise I think MMA will have good chance this season, MMA fighting!
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Hoping for Targa to do well here, but there is a risk this is turning rather uninteresting quickly, with Europe getting kicked out of the home tournament right away.
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I don't think it's a good move for MMA to reveal his race-switch this early. Rather keep it secret until the match-day, and surprise Nerchio with some next level ZvZ snipe strats.
Or maybe, just maybe, this is some next level mindgaming. Make Nerchio put all his preparation to ZvZ, then surprise him by playing terran?
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 28 2013 17:08 KingMel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 12:28 GTPGlitch wrote:On September 28 2013 10:08 KingMel wrote:On September 28 2013 09:57 GTPGlitch wrote: Huzzah, Vortix is going down \o/
Hoping for an MMA/Stardust/Targa/Genius semis Lol no he is not ^^ he is going to dismantle stardust Haha except stardust's PvZ Just look at VortiX's win ratio in ZvP... he is a monster, only MMA can stop him in this bracket Don't be so sure, StarDust always can make void rays :3
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On September 28 2013 21:58 andilaama wrote:I don't think it's a good move for MMA to reveal his race-switch this early. Rather keep it secret until the match-day, and surprise Nerchio with some next level ZvZ snipe strats. Or maybe, just maybe, this is some next level mindgaming. Make Nerchio put all his preparation to ZvZ, then surprise him by playing terran?  actually MMA should just show up and play Protoss
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VortiX is the ownage, can see him beating Stardust as long as he is good agaisnt that cheesy style.
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MMA 0 - 3 Nerchio VortiX 3 - 0 Stardust MC 0 - 3 Targa Genius 3 - 2 Duckdeok
Nerchio 2 - 3 VortiX Targa 3 - 0 Genius
ez.
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I really hope Nerchio gets back to his roots and destroys this season 
But my prediction is...
MMA 3:1 Nerchio Vortix 2:3 Stardust MC 3:0 Targa Genius 3:2 Duckdeok
Which sucks because I have no reason to watch that if no zerg is in it XD
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Targa is going to win this season. MARK MY WORD!
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MMA vs. Nerchio in ZvZ. I know that they're not actually playing one, but what do you reckon the score would be if they did?
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MMA Genius finals - disappointing for Europeans as always
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MMA to take it all, he's clearly the favorite.
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Gogo Genius vs. MC semis. =D
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Europeans fighting!!! I hope one or two can make it through, against all odds! :D
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On September 28 2013 22:44 IntoTheheart wrote:MMA vs. Nerchio in ZvZ. I know that they're not actually playing one, but what do you reckon the score would be if they did?  Unless he plays better than Life, 3-0 for me
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On September 28 2013 10:23 lichter wrote: I like how they made MMA zerg
racial balance wooo
ESL knows it´s time to erease terran from the game
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MMA will win this with only his left hand because if he uses both, winning the tournament would not be challenging enough.
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MMA is shown as zerg because EU are not used to have terrans competing at the top ^^
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MC vs. Genius grudge match in Ro4!!
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please MC vs Genius, protoss gods make it happen!!!!
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 29 2013 01:16 Larkin wrote: Korean top 4. Finally! I wonder how many foreigners WCS EU will send this season. Last 2 seasons that number was 3. This time we may have none.
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so you tell me the duck can play only pvp (with stardust in the final from upper side).. cmon.. go genius!. joke aside, hope that MMA will take it all, he is an amazing player. (they all are, but still)
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I hope Genius takes this season.
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MMA>Vortix
MC<duckdeok
MMA>duckdeok
MMA taking the whole thing. ez.
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Glad to see a Terran in the play-offs! Be sure to enjoy it my fellow Europeans, it wont happen again!
GoGo MMA!
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Nerchio vs. MMA: 2-3
Nerchio has really looked good in ZvT recently, but MMAs TvZ-winrate looks insane.*
VortiX vs. Stardust: 2-3
Just as Nerchio, VortiX is looking really strong in all match-ups (judging from HotS-winrates on Aligulac), but Stardust unfortunately also has an insane winrate in PvZ.
Targa vs. MC: 1-3
Worst match-up of both players, but Targa has recently pulled some up-sets in the match-up. Everything could happen here, but I'm decided to go with the more experienced player. MCs record also has far more Koreans.
Genius vs. Duckdeok: 2-3
*shrugs* No clue, Duckdeok seems to have strong PvP.
*If Nerchio makes it into the Ro4 and Stardust defeats VortiX, than Nerchio will go to the finals. According to Aligulac Nerchios record vs Stardust in September alone is 6-2.
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I am hoping for either Nerchio or Vortix to win. European heroes.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
MMA victory would make me cry gears of joy. MMA vs Genius/MC finals me thinks though MMA only playing TvZ would be sick crushing nerchio then vortix then targa ( unlikely but oh well)
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Here are the predictions by Aligulac, btw:
(1890) Nerchio 0-0 MMA (1961) ------------------------------------------- 10.26% 3-0 0-3 15.04% 16.37% 3-1 1-3 21.13% 17.41% 3-2 2-3 19.78% ------------------------------------------- 44.05% 55.95%
Median outcome: Nerchio 2-3 MMA Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
(1783) VortiX 0-0 StarDust (1837) --------------------------------------------- 10.75% 3-0 0-3 14.43% 16.92% 3-1 1-3 20.58% 17.75% 3-2 2-3 19.57% --------------------------------------------- 45.42% 54.58%
Median outcome: VortiX 2-3 StarDust Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
(1335) TargA 0-0 MC (1646) --------------------------------------- 4.84% 3-0 0-3 25.69% 9.22% 3-1 1-3 28.08% 11.72% 3-2 2-3 20.46% --------------------------------------- 25.78% 74.22%
Median outcome: TargA 1-3 MC Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
(1615) Genius 0-0 duckdeok (1610) --------------------------------------------- 12.67% 3-0 0-3 12.33% 18.92% 3-1 1-3 18.58% 18.84% 3-2 2-3 18.66% --------------------------------------------- 50.43% 49.57%
Median outcome: Genius 3-2 duckdeok Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
All incredibly close except TargA vs MC, however TargA's points have been steadily going up, while MC's points have been stagnating, so I'm not sure about the accurate that prediction is.
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MMA VortiX
MC Genius
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Genius
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MMA 3 - 1 Nerchio VortiX 2 - 3 Stardust MC 3 - 1 Targa Genius 3 - 2 Duckdeok
MMA 3- 0 Stardust MC 3 - 1 Genius
MMA 4(3) - 2 MC
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
GENIUS' YEAR <3 FUCK YEAH! Going to roll back the years and turn up to BlizzCon and win the whole thing  GENIUS HWAITING
On September 30 2013 06:04 KalWarkov wrote: MMA VortiX
MC Genius
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MMA Genius
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Genius
THIS GUY KNOWS <3
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On September 30 2013 05:27 JustPassingBy wrote: Here are the predictions by Aligulac, btw:
Some more Aligulac statistics:
Win Top 2 Top 4 Top 8 ------------------------------------------------------ MMA 23.84% 10.12% 21.99% 44.05% StarDust 19.48% 10.72% 24.63% 45.17% MC 13.35% 21.39% 39.48% 25.78% Genius 11.78% 17.78% 20.87% 49.57% VortiX 10.78% 5.50% 28.89% 54.83% Nerchio 10.26% 9.31% 24.48% 55.95% duckdeok 9.27% 18.85% 21.45% 50.43% TargA 1.25% 6.33% 18.20% 74.22% Median Outcome Bracket + Show Spoiler + Nerchio 2 ┐ ├───────── MMA 3 ┐ MMA 3 ┘ │ ├───────── MMA 4 ┐ VortiX 2 ┐ │ │ ├──── StarDust 2 ┘ │ StarDust 3 ┘ │ ├─ MMA TargA 1 ┐ │ ├────────── MC 2 ┐ │ MC 3 ┘ │ │ ├────── Genius 3 ┘ Genius 3 ┐ │ ├────── Genius 3 ┘ duckdeok 2 ┘ Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
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Duckdeok could have an all protoss bracket yet again for this season. Wouldn't be surprised if he plays Stardust in finals. Personally cheering for MMA of course
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