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tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
August 31 2013 16:16 GMT
#121
mhhh this went better than I expected.kudos to the coaches who support the team with their own money!
whoever I pick for my anti team turns gosu
azurespace
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)39 Posts
August 31 2013 16:16 GMT
#122
On September 01 2013 01:14 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:13 azurespace wrote:
On September 01 2013 01:11 Undead1993 wrote:
On September 01 2013 00:59 Liquid`Ret wrote:

but does it really help the scene that korea's top player is now going to europe/NA?

really? lol poor poor foreigners.



INNoVation said he is not going to other region.

I believe everyone here means foreign tournaments like MLG (if there will be one) or DreamHack (or even IEM, lol).



I see. Anyway, the proleague will not be held in a close future so KeSPA gamers can join as well...
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
August 31 2013 16:17 GMT
#123
People should realize that this has nothing to do with the state of sc2 popularity on the contrary WCS season 2 finals was quite a huge success. This is solely due to the company failing.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19367 Posts
August 31 2013 16:17 GMT
#124
On September 01 2013 01:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:12 Ghanburighan wrote:
On September 01 2013 01:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
Meanwhile:


Quick, place BisuDagger on suicide watch.

Actually BisuDagger must be happiest man ever: Bisu may end up actually playing in SSL!

Exactly, what are these guys smoking? ANY chance for Bisu to play Sc1 again is a blessing to me.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8251 Posts
August 31 2013 16:18 GMT
#125
What is SSL? People keep on mentioning it.
CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
August 31 2013 16:18 GMT
#126
On September 01 2013 01:16 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:10 Musicus wrote:
On September 01 2013 01:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
Meanwhile: https://twitter.com/supernovamaniac/status/373836850693029889


Someone send an ambulance to Bisudagger's house, fast!

1. The tweet date is the 13th
2. I want Bisu to retire


The tweet date is the 31st. 13 is the year.
Team owner of team QTLing
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 16:19:24
August 31 2013 16:18 GMT
#127
On September 01 2013 01:16 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:10 Musicus wrote:
On September 01 2013 01:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
Meanwhile: https://twitter.com/supernovamaniac/status/373836850693029889


Someone send an ambulance to Bisudagger's house, fast!

1. The tweet date is the 13th
2. I want Bisu to retire


To retire from sc2 I guess, makes sense.

Edit: Tweet is from today.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 31 2013 16:18 GMT
#128
On September 01 2013 01:17 Rescawen wrote:
People should realize that this has nothing to do with the state of sc2 popularity on the contrary WCS season 2 finals was quite a huge success. This is solely due to the company failing.

Players retiring on other hand means that A. they do not like the game. B. have some serious RL reasons to stop playing it. So far it looks like A is prevalent.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ladysman09
Profile Joined June 2013
237 Posts
August 31 2013 16:18 GMT
#129
The easy way to get more sponsors is to recruit an LoL team. Worked for IM that's how they got LG.
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
August 31 2013 16:19 GMT
#130
Hyvaa retired wtffffff
Fody03
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy310 Posts
August 31 2013 16:19 GMT
#131
On September 01 2013 01:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:17 Rescawen wrote:
People should realize that this has nothing to do with the state of sc2 popularity on the contrary WCS season 2 finals was quite a huge success. This is solely due to the company failing.

Players retiring on other hand means that A. they do not like the game. B. have some serious RL reasons to stop playing it. So far it looks like A is prevalent.



its a game they didnt choose to play,it seems reasonable they dont like it
Terrans
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 16:20:23
August 31 2013 16:20 GMT
#132
On September 01 2013 01:16 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:10 Musicus wrote:
On September 01 2013 01:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
Meanwhile: https://twitter.com/supernovamaniac/status/373836850693029889


Someone send an ambulance to Bisudagger's house, fast!

1. The tweet date is the 13th
2. I want Bisu to retire

2013. August 31st 2013. Learn to date format.

EDIT: Mega-ninja'd
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 31 2013 16:20 GMT
#133
On September 01 2013 01:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:17 Rescawen wrote:
People should realize that this has nothing to do with the state of sc2 popularity on the contrary WCS season 2 finals was quite a huge success. This is solely due to the company failing.

Players retiring on other hand means that A. they do not like the game. B. have some serious RL reasons to stop playing it. So far it looks like A is prevalent.

Or C. There aren't enough tournaments/infrastructure to support double the amount of players than there were before the kespa switch
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 31 2013 16:20 GMT
#134
On September 01 2013 01:19 Fody03 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2013 01:17 Rescawen wrote:
People should realize that this has nothing to do with the state of sc2 popularity on the contrary WCS season 2 finals was quite a huge success. This is solely due to the company failing.

Players retiring on other hand means that A. they do not like the game. B. have some serious RL reasons to stop playing it. So far it looks like A is prevalent.



its a game they didnt choose to play,it seems reasonable they dont like it

Well, in Inno's case he did like the game (compared to BW, obv) it seems.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
August 31 2013 16:20 GMT
#135
please some team pick up hyvaa and not make him quit!
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 31 2013 16:21 GMT
#136
On September 01 2013 01:17 Rescawen wrote:
People should realize that this has nothing to do with the state of sc2 popularity on the contrary WCS season 2 finals was quite a huge success. This is solely due to the company failing.

The real cataclysm here is many ex-bw players finishes paying their dues and leave sc2 altogether. I'd expect ten to fifteen, included very prolific ones
Amazonic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden239 Posts
August 31 2013 16:22 GMT
#137
Sucks that Hyvaa retires :< I liked watching him.
"Amazing how something so simple as a fat person and gravity can be so amusing. Classic!"
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19367 Posts
August 31 2013 16:22 GMT
#138
On September 01 2013 01:18 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:16 BisuDagger wrote:
On September 01 2013 01:10 Musicus wrote:
On September 01 2013 01:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
Meanwhile: https://twitter.com/supernovamaniac/status/373836850693029889


Someone send an ambulance to Bisudagger's house, fast!

1. The tweet date is the 13th
2. I want Bisu to retire


To retire from sc2 I guess, makes sense.

Edit: Tweet is from today.

AH ty, on my phone it only showed the 13. This is indeed a crazy day. But right now this isn't about me or Bisu. This really sucks for those players on STX that wanted to continue SC2 careers. But I guess this is why Mini was playing BW last night against larva.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
August 31 2013 16:22 GMT
#139
So the jist of this article is LG-IM could join proleague in place of STX Soul and the STX team will join up with NHSH to add another team to GSTL? Sounds good to me
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 16:24:16
August 31 2013 16:22 GMT
#140
On September 01 2013 01:19 Fody03 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 01 2013 01:17 Rescawen wrote:
People should realize that this has nothing to do with the state of sc2 popularity on the contrary WCS season 2 finals was quite a huge success. This is solely due to the company failing.

Players retiring on other hand means that A. they do not like the game. B. have some serious RL reasons to stop playing it. So far it looks like A is prevalent.



its a game they didnt choose to play,it seems reasonable they dont like it

The reasons are likely intertwined; with contracts being reworked it isn't unlikely that a lot of salaries dropped (especially for big name, relatively little result players) which makes playing the game not worth it anymore if you don't like it all that much in the first place.

I understand a lot of people are alarmed by this news, but the only surprise is probably Jangbi and maybe hyvaa if you stretch it. I expect more big names to retire very soon, and am more surprised Stork hasn't yet.
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