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WCS AM - Ro8 Preview (Season 2)

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WCS AM - Ro8 Preview (Season 2)

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August 10th, 2013 17:00 GMT
2013 WCS Europe

WCS America - Premier



Quarter-Finals Preview
China vs. Korea vs. Canada

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

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WCS AM Quarter-Finals Preview

Compared to WCS America Season 1, the final eight of Season 2 is already an improvement*. We've gone up from two foreigners to three, there's actually one North American in the running, and one of the Koreans is basically an adopted American.

Countdown:

There's even going to be a live audience this time as well, and all signs point to everything being better the second time around. Well, on to the previews!

*If you aren't Korean.

Polt vs. Oz

by DarkLordOlli

Two long standing veterans of the Korean scene clash as CMStorm's (T)Polt and Evil Geniuses' (P)Oz duel for a place in the final four. Both players looked extremely convincing against their opponent's race in the previous round so here's to hoping that we'll get a good PvT series out of this one!

Polt continued his string of impressive performances in Heart of the Swarm by ruthlessly obliterating his Ro16 group 4-0 on the back of his trademark TvP. Alicia and Jim fought valiantly but Polt's famously aggressive MMM style proved too much for either of them to handle. Polt played beautifully, always finding weak spots in his opponent's defense, picking off units, probes and dealing small amounts of damage throughout the game while not missing a beat on macro, upgrades, expansions or transitions at home. This coupled with great unit control, eventually led to him roll over his opponents once he felt comfortable enough to push his advantage and end the games.

Polt has to be really happy to draw another Protoss player as his next opponent. Why? Not only has it always been his best match-up, but he only had Protoss players to prepare for in the last round. The twist is that Oz is a trickier player than most, one known for being intelligent and creative. The question is whether that really fazes Polt and his tons of experience beating all sorts of Protoss opponents.

EG's wizard Oz has been climbing the ladder back up to relevance ever since they picked him up to bolster the EG-TL Proleague team. When he was brought in along with aLive, it didn't take long for him to improve and become a regular in Proleague. While the EG-TL training didn't pay off in time to save them from a last place finish in Proleague, the players have been absolutely dominating foreign tournaments, and Oz got in on the action with a second place finish at IEM Shanghai.

The great and powerful one only had one series to win in the RO16 as viOLet unfortunately forfeited. Oz did lose to his teammate Jaedong, experiencing every Protoss' nightmare in a fifty muta switch. Oz managed to recover nicely though, demolishing AX.Ryung convincingly. In game one, Oz defended his extremely early third against Ryung's pre-medivac pushout with a combination of forcefields, photon overcharge and constantly chronoboosted gateways. Game two seemed to go better for Ryung until a single mistake made him pay dearly - a single zealot managed to find his way into Ryung's third base and killed 11 SCVs in the process while Oz took another fast third. This allowed Oz to hit a strong gateway/colossus timing as soon as storm was done, capitalizing on his stronger production and tech advantage to roll over everything in his path.

Oz's PvT seems really solid overall with good decision making and control but he can also bring creative, fine-tuned builds. Being unpredictable and pulling crazy builds has often been his downfall but it may be exactly what he needs to beat Polt.

Prediction: Polt 3 - 1 Oz

TaeJa vs. MacSed

by DarkLordOlli

(T)Liquid`TaeJa and (P)iG.MacSed have never played against each other in a tournament setting before, but that doesn't stop TaeJa from being forecast as the clear favorite.

So was it really just just the wrists, then? In an interview at ASUS ROG, the crown prince of Terran stated that his physical issues are no longer interfering with his practice, which might explain why TaeJa is getting closer and closer to his Summer 2012 form.

He easily advanced from Group B without dropping so much as a single map. Neither aLive nor Minigun were able to keep up with TeamLiquid's reinvigorated Terran ace. Minigun had a few moments where his phoenix-colossus style looked promising but he couldn't quite capitalize on them and was in the end overrun by TaeJa's solid macro. Against aLive he displayed his mastery of the marine-tank positional wars, including his stunning ability to catch his opponents' tanks unsieged and convert single mistakes into seemingly easy victories.

Another circumstance working in his favor is the fact that TaeJa has been playing a lot of TvP recently which means that he brings good preparation for the matchup even without practicing for MacSed in particular - which would have been difficult anyway since the Chinese Protoss only played PvP and PvZ in WCS America.

iG.MacSed will need a small miracle to beat TaeJa. Not only does he potentially lack the preparation against TaeJa, having prepared for two Zergs and a Protoss in his Ro16 group, but his overall record against Terran is not exactly overwhelming either, having only a 45% winrate in broadcasted HotS matches. The best Terrans he's faced in the zerg expansion so far have been aLive, Polt and YoDa and he lost to all of them. TaeJa's TvP is certainly right up there with them so MacSed will definitely have to step it up if he wants to emerge victorious.

That said, he should certainly be motivated enough to do well after knocking out last season's runner-up Revival 2-0 in their deciding series with two consecutive Gateway all-ins; one hidden by a Stargate opening, the other followed up by an immortal push. Rotterdam has been updating us with lots of information about our new Chinese overlords, and among other news it was stated that the Invictus Gaming coach Edison considers MacSed to be even better than Jim. That's a big claim to make and one that surprised a lot of people considering how strong Jim's showing in WCS has been so far. Now is definitely a good time for MacSed to show us why.

Considering TaeJa's form and the scary thought that he can perform even better, I'll have to predict the Liquid Terran to take a decisive victory in this series.

Prediction: TaeJa 3 - 1 MacSed


Jim vs. Jaedong

by Waxangel

For an SC2 writer, JvP is the gift that keeps on giving. While some narratives are a bit forced and require a few facts to be overlooked, the story of JvP pretty much tells itself. Protoss have been a well documented obstacle in (Z)EG.Jaedong's short HotS career, whether it was your ordinary Proleague match, NaNiwa knocking him out of DH: Stockholm, or Stardust denying him the title at DH: Summer. To be fair to Jaedong, it's not a story of consistent badness, but one of the looming possibility that things can always go horribly, horribly wrong without warning. He plays well in most games, and he even plays well for MOST OF most games; it's just that he likes to make the worst possible decisions at the worst possible times. Let's all watch the Stardust series again, just to brush up.

His opponent, (P)iG.Jim, comes into this match with a considerable amount of hype, largely thanks to one Kevin "Rotterdam" Van der Kooi, who has decided the seventeen year old Chinese Protoss is his new man-crush. Purportedly one of the best ladder players on the Korean server, Jim has lived up to his reputation so far, making it from the bottom of the qualifiers and all the way to the final eight of WCS America. We can safely say he's a top foreigner, and the more optimistic fans might already dub him a championship contender in a strong WCS AM field.

How does Jim measure up to all the other Protosses Jaedong has faced so far? Well, he did already beat Jaedong down in the Challenger League, so that's one thing that looks bad for Jaedong already. In one game Jim used a baby-soul train from a gateway first start to take victory, while in the other he won a convoluted base trade that began with him cannon-rushing Jaedong's hatchery.

Even though Jim is a Chinese player who rarely gets to play in international tournaments, we have at least seen enough of his PvZ that suggests he is an aggressive, all-in favoring kind of player. That's how he beat both Jaedong and Nestea in WCS AM, and he also went for a gateway based all-in when he faced Scarlett in the RSL (he lost that game). On the other hand, his late-game play didn't seem all that special when he played a straight-up game against Scarlett, getting flattened by Scarlett's ultralisk based army after a mundane build up on both sides.

While I know that Jaedong has what it takes to beat Jim, I just can't bring myself to pick him to win a serious ZvP match. Not just yet. He's spontaneously combusted too many times to give him the benefit of the doubt—he's going to have to win a few more convincing series first.

Prediction: Jim 3 - 2 Jaedong

Scarlett vs. aLive

by Waxangel

Although most of us are looking toward WCS Europe to see who will inherit the foreigner throne left empty by Stephano, the new best-foreigner might actually be a player hailing from the much mocked North American region. Yes, I'm talking about (Z)Acer.Scarlett, the Korean-beating anomaly from Canada. Scarlett managed to develop Korean-beating powers in seclusion, before she even became known to the SC2 scene at large at IPL4, and has only become better since travelling to Korea to train at the Axiom house. Though her match history is shorter than most, the list of opponents she has defeated lately is impressive:
Revival, Jim, HerO, MaNa, Ryung, and Alicia. Okay, maybe not impressive at a WCS Korea level, but it's more than enough to make her a serious contender to become the WCS America champion.

And since we love to talk continuity here at TL, there's some of that at stake here as well. Nearly one year ago, Scarlett became the first WCS America Champion, defeating USA champion ViBE and a slew of Zergs during the BL-Infestor era. This tournament is her chance to take the title back. While the opposition is much harder this time around, it would make victory that much sweeter. (Also, they'll actually give her a trophy this time).

Ahead of her is an invisible obstacle in (T)EG.aLive. Just good enough to beat every foreign fan favorite and just bland enough to be unable to capture anyone's imagination, aLive is a foreign tournament organizer's worst nightmare. In the past two months alone, aLive has eliminated TLO, Stephano, Suppy, Demuslim, and Minigun from tournaments. Don't remember? Congrats, nothing is wrong with you.

Maybe it's not all aLive's fault. It's not like one can just ask a Korean player to 'be more interesting so we can market you.' They're the players, and the big organizations are the guys with the experience in promoting. So maybe Evil Geniuses should consider taking some more drastic measures. Organize an arm-wrestling contest with iNcontrol, tamale eating contest with Machine, or a free throw shooting contest with Xenocider. Anything. ANYTHING to promote by far the best Terran on their team, a former international champion, and a potential WCS America winner.

In terms of the actual match, it should be a pretty close affair between aLive's standard and effective MMM wave style of play, and Scarlett's varied ZvT toolkit. Scarlett has shown a lot of variety in strategies in the past, and will also have the entire NA brain trust (don't laugh, Europeans) helping her plan for this series. In the end, I'm giving Scarlett the slight edge since she will also be looking to avenge BFF Suppy.

Prediction: Scarlett 3 - 2 aLive


Writers: DarkLordOlli and Waxangel.
Graphics: Pathy
Editor: Waxangel.
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 17:05:19
August 10 2013 17:03 GMT
#2
I love the * if you aren't Korean.

I hope you're right about Scarlett and Alive. Hard to predict the Chinese players.
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
August 10 2013 17:04 GMT
#3
Macsed will beat Taeja

just you wait.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
August 10 2013 17:07 GMT
#4
I picked all foreigners to win this weekend, sleep deprivation and alcohol
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 10 2013 17:09 GMT
#5
Thanks for the preview :D
gogo jd, scarlett, & polt
Moderatorlickypiddy
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
August 10 2013 17:09 GMT
#6
I predict

Polt 3-2
Taeja 3-1
Jaedong 3-1
Scarlett 3-0

There is a reason Scarlett is the only North American player(not counting polt, unless we consider him American now) still alive, 3-0 is a bit bold, but I think she is capable of it. I do think Polt will win this tournament though.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 17:10:35
August 10 2013 17:09 GMT
#7
On August 11 2013 02:07 Waxangel wrote:
I picked all foreigners to win this weekend, sleep deprivation and alcohol


On August 11 2013 02:07 Waxangel wrote:
Prediction: TaeJa 3 - 1 MacSed


?

Change it man, I really want MacSed to win!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
August 10 2013 17:10 GMT
#8
On August 11 2013 02:09 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 02:07 Waxangel wrote:
I picked all foreigners to win this weekend, sleep deprivation and alcohol


Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 02:07 Waxangel wrote:
Prediction: TaeJa 3 - 1 MacSed


?


thats' the other guy!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
August 10 2013 17:11 GMT
#9
On August 11 2013 02:10 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 02:09 BronzeKnee wrote:
On August 11 2013 02:07 Waxangel wrote:
I picked all foreigners to win this weekend, sleep deprivation and alcohol


On August 11 2013 02:07 Waxangel wrote:
Prediction: TaeJa 3 - 1 MacSed


?


thats' the other guy!


I see, nevermind, I only looked at the bottom to see who wrote it.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 17:14:25
August 10 2013 17:14 GMT
#10
mentioning that WCS AM is better between season 1 and season 2 and NOT mention Terry the Intern? Tsk tsk

Great writeup of course
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 10 2013 17:16 GMT
#11
That would be me and I don't predict against TaeJa when it's hot
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
August 10 2013 17:22 GMT
#12
Some interesting matchups. I'm hoping the remaining foreigners are able to take their series.
It would be exciting to see one of the Chinese win it!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 17:23:04
August 10 2013 17:22 GMT
#13
I'm amazed that olli didn't predict for a protoss in oz vs polt. What drugs has waxangel been giving you to not favour protoss 24/7?
Glorious SEA doto
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
August 10 2013 17:23 GMT
#14
GOGO the 3 Foreigners!

kinda dont want yet ANOTHER Korean dominated end to the tournament ya know what I mean

Last season I cheered for the 2 foreigners in the ro8, this season there are 3! and arguably these 3 are even better than the 2 foreigners in last season ro8....this might be the chance that foreigners might actually win over the Korean domination?
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 17:51:55
August 10 2013 17:51 GMT
#15
Organize an arm-wrestling contest with iNcontrol, tamale eating contest with Machine, or a free throw shooting contest with Xenocider. Anything. ANYTHING


Ah, I would absolutely love something like this, and EG is serious enough about publicity that I hope they would consider it.

I agree with all the predictions, except for being slightly more pessimistic about Scarlett vs aLive. Don't get me wrong, I love Scarlett, but aLive is really good, and I can't get my hopes up for an American (as in the continent) in WCS America ro4, I just can't.
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
August 10 2013 17:52 GMT
#16
On August 11 2013 02:23 mikumegurine wrote:
GOGO the 3 Foreigners!

kinda dont want yet ANOTHER Korean dominated end to the tournament ya know what I mean

Last season I cheered for the 2 foreigners in the ro8, this season there are 3! and arguably these 3 are even better than the 2 foreigners in last season ro8....this might be the chance that foreigners might actually win over the Korean domination?


If WCS EU is any indication, nope
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
August 10 2013 17:53 GMT
#17
Good predictions generally agree even though I think macsed can pull it off against taeja if the perfect storm arrives
banelings
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 10 2013 17:55 GMT
#18
JD is really good at holding 2 base allins, I think he'll beat Jim.
Refer to my post.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 10 2013 17:55 GMT
#19
On August 11 2013 02:55 Zenbrez wrote:
JD is really good at holding 2 base allins, I think he'll beat Jim.


Jim's got a 3-0 record against Jaedong!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
August 10 2013 18:16 GMT
#20
On August 11 2013 02:09 HeeroFX wrote:
There is a reason Scarlett is the only North American player(not counting polt, unless we consider him American now) still alive

Terrifying pun.

I agree that Scarlett will beat aLive, but I think Jaedong vs Jim will be 3-2 in either's favor.
A mind sharper than any blade.
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
August 10 2013 18:19 GMT
#21
Polt 3-0 Oz
TaeJa 3-1 MacSed
Jim 3-1 Jaedong
Scarlett 3-1 aLive
Writer#1 CJ fan | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/508947-wcs-dreamhack-austin-interviews
Meow-Meow
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany451 Posts
August 10 2013 18:20 GMT
#22
Great writeup!
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ) Like all techno, it's hard to tell if it's good music played horribly or horrible music played well.
InfPanik
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada40 Posts
August 10 2013 18:21 GMT
#23
I'm so HYPED to see everyone's predictions go in Scarlett's favor.

GOGO SCARLETT!! NA Hope!
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
August 10 2013 18:27 GMT
#24
Jaedong & Scarlett FIGHTING!!!
n.Die_Jaedong
HeartOfTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Niue585 Posts
August 10 2013 18:39 GMT
#25
It's really hard to predict any game with JD. The pendulum could swing far far in the opposite direction really really fast.
"I do not join. I lead." - Queen of Blades
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 10 2013 19:07 GMT
#26
Ah nice times to catch Jaedong and Scarlett for the euros . Jaedong will crush Jim tonight, that is, if Jim has the balls to step into the booth!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
August 10 2013 19:14 GMT
#27
Polt 3-1 Oz
TaeJa 1-3 MacSed
Jim 3-0 Jaedong
Scarlett 3-2 aLive

Yeah, China gonna dominate methinks.
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
August 10 2013 19:31 GMT
#28
On August 11 2013 02:07 Waxangel wrote:
I picked all foreigners to win this weekend, sleep deprivation and alcohol

(>'.')>
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
August 10 2013 19:55 GMT
#29
JvP.. still better then Light v P..


I miss dragoons now.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
August 10 2013 19:58 GMT
#30
the only ones i am interested in is scarlett and jaedong.If neither of them pass wcs na will lose me as a viewer.
SneX
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden377 Posts
August 10 2013 20:19 GMT
#31
I will finally see Jim play! Predicting Jim, TaeJa, Scarlett and Polt to win.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
August 10 2013 20:56 GMT
#32
WCS AM sends 5 koreans to the season finals again
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 00:25:12
August 10 2013 21:58 GMT
#33
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.gj jaedong.yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesss.finally somebody i cheer for goes forward.

Edit2:yeeeeeeeeees scarlet also made it through.yuppppppy.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
August 11 2013 02:13 GMT
#34
Grubby for King of the North (Europe)

Scarlett for Queen of America

gogo defeat the korean dominance!
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 02:25:45
August 11 2013 02:18 GMT
#35
I loved the Scarlett vs aLive write up. So true...

Edit: And Clutch confusing aLive for Oz in WCS :S. Poor aLive.
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 02:43:05
August 11 2013 02:41 GMT
#36
polts on fire this year.another fan favourite makes it into the ro4 in na.the na scene really picks up in entertainment from last year which is a big surprise

p.S:just for the record i said polt is on fire before clutch said it on stream.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
August 11 2013 03:52 GMT
#37
Jaedongggggg!! Can't wait to watch these games once I get home !!
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