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oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
July 22 2013 23:38 GMT
#301
This is bad for the viewers, viewer count, overall hype, interest in the tournaments. I guess this is a decision taken by people who don' know what it means to watch sc2 hours on end. You just segment your viewers for no good reason. Hey, you know what those sc2 fans would like? What? To have all 3 Regional Season Finals in ONE WEEKEND. Would that be cool? Wow what a great idea, all synced up and tidy! Blizzard has to consult with e-sports people with a brain before screwing themselves and the viewers over. I'm not even going to get into the TI3 overlap. Just too silly.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
July 22 2013 23:39 GMT
#302
Updated OP with this reddit post that explains part of the situation.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
July 22 2013 23:41 GMT
#303
Good thing we can watch TI3 in Dota tv
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holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
July 22 2013 23:41 GMT
#304
Well, that statement was exactly what I expected.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
July 22 2013 23:41 GMT
#305
yay nothing has been resolved
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#306
Not surprised Blizzard isn't backing down, they have pretty inflated self worth in esports and as a company generally think they can do no wrong and are right in all situations. Oh well, this isn't going to hurt TI3 viewership at all but SC2 is going to miss out on a metric ton of potential views by being stupid.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
July 22 2013 23:44 GMT
#307
Welp. I guess that "addresses concerns" in the most technical sense by merely acknowledging their existence. Watching TI3. Fix yourself Blizz.
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
July 22 2013 23:45 GMT
#308
That response by Blizzard was completely what I expected! Hope this isn't as bad as people think it will be... My first impression was that this timing will completely destroy the viewership for this event, but maybe im being overdramatic. After all, the International 2013 will be held from 7th of August to 11th, where the WCS events will be from 5th to 8th. So the finals of WCS will overlap with the early stages of the playoff in The International. We're not talking about finals being played on the same time, but a small overlap at most!
@Munck
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
July 22 2013 23:45 GMT
#309
That statement does not address the idiotic idea to place all season finals in a single weekend. Executives that don't know what they are talking about. And he says there are a lot of e-sports events etc etc. OMFG, we know that, you only had to avoid one of them, TI3, Valve's yearly event
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 22 2013 23:45 GMT
#310
They shouldn't have foreseen to organize it at GamesCom. That's the main problem.
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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
July 22 2013 23:45 GMT
#311
Well, I dont think it will be so bad, if it were a big League of Legends tournament, then I think people will have to worry a lot more. That game is so big compared to SC2 that I cant imagine SC2 being the main event for anything they run at the same time as LoL.
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Random2323
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom1 Post
July 22 2013 23:46 GMT
#312
RIP WCS.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 22 2013 23:47 GMT
#313
On July 23 2013 08:45 tshi wrote:
Well, I dont think it will be so bad, if it were a big League of Legends tournament, then I think people will have to worry a lot more. That game is so big compared to SC2 that I cant imagine SC2 being the main event for anything they run at the same time as LoL.


The international viewer counts rivals any League events viewers for one tournament, Sc2 has just as much to lose in this situation because 90% of viewers will pick TI3 over Sc2 any day.
dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
July 22 2013 23:48 GMT
#314
I'm still watching WCS and so will plenty of people. This will end up being a non issue because browsers can have more than one window open.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 22 2013 23:49 GMT
#315
On July 23 2013 08:45 tshi wrote:
Well, I dont think it will be so bad, if it were a big League of Legends tournament, then I think people will have to worry a lot more. That game is so big compared to SC2 that I cant imagine SC2 being the main event for anything they run at the same time as LoL.



The International 3 will grab more viewers than anything League has to offer, at least until they do their World Finals.

SC2 will take a heavy heavy backseat here.
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tribulator
Profile Joined February 2011
774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 23:50:19
July 22 2013 23:49 GMT
#316
Considering they wanted to hit Gamescom for the global finals, you'd think they'd plan ahead and try to, you know, avoid any major conflicts by scheduling appropriately. It's pretty obvious at this point that they didn't do that.

Can't wait to see what they fuck up next!
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 23:53:42
July 22 2013 23:49 GMT
#317
On July 23 2013 08:45 tshi wrote:
Well, I dont think it will be so bad, if it were a big League of Legends tournament, then I think people will have to worry a lot more. That game is so big compared to SC2 that I cant imagine SC2 being the main event for anything they run at the same time as LoL.


If it was LCS instead of TI3 there wouldn't be anger at all towards Blizzard cause SC2 fans don't care about LoL. But a lot of SC2 fans are also Dota 2 fans which is why there is conflict. With it instead being TI3 WCS loses a hefty amount of viewers. What Blizzard also doesnt know is that the TI3 group stages are happening the week before the playoffs which alot of people will be watching instead of WCS as well.

On July 23 2013 08:47 Esoterikk wrote:
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On July 23 2013 08:45 tshi wrote:
Well, I dont think it will be so bad, if it were a big League of Legends tournament, then I think people will have to worry a lot more. That game is so big compared to SC2 that I cant imagine SC2 being the main event for anything they run at the same time as LoL.


The international viewer counts rivals any League events viewers for one tournament, Sc2 has just as much to lose in this situation because 90% of viewers will pick TI3 over Sc2 any day.


And this year they're having more coverage for TI3 with more languages as broadcasters this year instead of just english and russian like last year. TI3 is just a smart marketing tool for Dota 2 and with half of the prize pool being raised by just dota 2 fans it brings alot more hype to the table and media. WCS will still be overshadowed even though its overlapping both part of the group stages and the first 2 days of the playoffs. Poor planning from Blizzard just like WCS season 1. Have fun dealing with the PR nightmare from team sponsors wondering about their ROI and why its shit Blizzard.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
July 22 2013 23:51 GMT
#318
On July 23 2013 08:48 dcsoda wrote:
I'm still watching WCS and so will plenty of people. This will end up being a non issue because browsers can have more than one window open.


Twitch might want to have a word with you tho.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 23:51:49
July 22 2013 23:51 GMT
#319
lol so they arent backing down. Yep, all aboard the Valve train.... expecting ghost town over SC vile soon. Yeah its a bad business decision if they would have backed down but its a price they gota pay making such terrible mistake. By not backing down, not only they ruined their reputation as a game developer, they also ruining their reputation in making business decision. We all know what WCS final last year or ANY of the ESL event are like. Even though they are not borderline horrible, they are no where close to The International in term of production quality. Thats not even counting the prestigious price pool and a huge storyline carried over from last year TI2. Meanwhile viewers still are confused with the regional format system of WCS. No way in hell this gona end pretty for blizzard.
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Tunga
Profile Joined August 2011
United States765 Posts
July 22 2013 23:51 GMT
#320
The most ironic thing here is Riot/League organizers have done a better job avoiding schedule conflicts with TI3 than Blizzard.
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