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[Rumor] STX Soul could disband

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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 09:52:07
June 29 2013 09:19 GMT
#1
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Having been around for over a decade, STX Soul has been one of the most prominent teams in e-sports history, having coached some of the best Brood War and now SC2 players in history, such as Julyzerg, Calm, and most recently Innovation. The rumor of STX disbanding comes from their current financial situation, having recently filed for bankruptcy.

On June 29 2013 07:50 andyrau wrote:
Relevant to the tangent this thread has taken in the past page or two, STX Corp recently filed Chapter 15, Title 11 in the United States, which is similar to filing Chapter 11 for domestic companies.
Obviously, STX is Korean-held so they were forced to use Chapter 15 instead of 11. On that note, its (Korean) creditors may take majority shareholder because nobody was willing to buy up STX PanOcean's debt, so that subsidiary, along with the company itself, may soon be out of chaebol family's ownership.
Financial downturn during the first quarter of 2013 was caused by a global decline in demand for shipping in conjunction with the financial strain of an overabundance of unused ships.

source


Besides being reportedly having a debt over $9,000,000,000, there has been some other tidbits that people believe are signs that STX Soul could be on their last legs.

On June 29 2013 16:59 mongmong wrote:
Group A : 양희수P / Pigbaby / 8게임단

Group B : 최종환Z / CoCa / 前SlayerS

Group C : 백동준P / Dear

Group D : 박진영P / EG.JYP / EG-TL

Group E : 임재현Z / Mamuri / SK텔레콤

Group F : 지동원T / kOp / 삼성전자

Group G : 김대엽P / Stats / KT

Group H : 서태희T / Journey / SK텔레콤

ㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡㅡ

i got this from Fomos:players who made it through the qualifiers. people on fomos are speculating that GomTv intentiaonally left out STX next to Dear.... but everyone else has a team name .. interesting... I also read an article saying that STX stopped sponsoring a football team due to financial problems they are facing at the moment 0_0...


On June 24 2013 14:47 Clefairy wrote:
Apparently Shuttle said on his Afreeca stream that Calm is going to the army soon because STX is about to disband We might not get a Proleague next season if it's true because Team 8 will probably disband as well and EG-TL's participation next season isn't decided.



Again, currently these are all rumors, but seeing as STX Soul are a prominent team and have been around forever, I thought a separate thread would be good for discussion and any other news/information that could come out in the future involving STX.
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herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
June 29 2013 09:22 GMT
#2
Well, I could see this situation being similar to Azubu. I just don't see a SC2 team surviving during financial hardships.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 29 2013 09:22 GMT
#3
We should get that link to the article saying STX dropped their sponsorship of a football team, if that can be confirmed then it would give a lot more weight to the possibility of the sc2 team disbanding.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 29 2013 09:23 GMT
#4
In other news, HoSeo is still alive.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
June 29 2013 09:23 GMT
#5
these rumors generally turn out to be true
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 29 2013 09:24 GMT
#6
On June 29 2013 18:23 Fionn wrote:
In other news, HoSeo is still alive.


HoSeo will be the #1 team in the end, if only by virtue of stubbornly refusing to bow to the pressures of the world.
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
June 29 2013 09:29 GMT
#7
On June 29 2013 18:19 Fionn wrote:


Besides being reportedly having a debt over $9,000,000,000, there has been some other tidbits that people believe are signs that STX Soul could be on their last legs.



That's should be ₩ right?,not dollars
All I do is Stim.
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
June 29 2013 09:30 GMT
#8
with stephano leaving and idra gone, could we possibly see EG Innovation?
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 29 2013 09:31 GMT
#9
On June 29 2013 18:29 DifuntO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 18:19 Fionn wrote:


Besides being reportedly having a debt over $9,000,000,000, there has been some other tidbits that people believe are signs that STX Soul could be on their last legs.



That's should be ₩ right?,not dollars

Its worth 23bn, 9mil in debt for a company of that size is frankly irrelevant.
Maxilicious
Profile Joined May 2011
221 Posts
June 29 2013 09:34 GMT
#10
On June 29 2013 18:30 partydude89 wrote:
with stephano leaving and idra gone, could we possibly see EG Innovation?


I doubt he will move to a non-Korean team. Specifically, I think he's going to join a Kespa team if STX is to be disbanded.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 29 2013 09:34 GMT
#11
On June 29 2013 18:31 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 18:29 DifuntO wrote:
On June 29 2013 18:19 Fionn wrote:


Besides being reportedly having a debt over $9,000,000,000, there has been some other tidbits that people believe are signs that STX Soul could be on their last legs.



That's should be ₩ right?,not dollars

Its worth 23bn, 9mil in debt for a company of that size is frankly irrelevant.


Why would STX file for bankruptcy over a $9,000,000 debt if they are worth $23,000,000,000?
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
June 29 2013 09:35 GMT
#12
On June 29 2013 18:31 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 18:29 DifuntO wrote:
On June 29 2013 18:19 Fionn wrote:


Besides being reportedly having a debt over $9,000,000,000, there has been some other tidbits that people believe are signs that STX Soul could be on their last legs.



That's should be ₩ right?,not dollars

Its worth 23bn, 9mil in debt for a company of that size is frankly irrelevant.


That's 9mil dollars?Ok then,it looked like 9bn to me.
All I do is Stim.
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 09:36:03
June 29 2013 09:35 GMT
#13

This is a rumor for like couple of years, no news worthy information also, not worth a thread.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
June 29 2013 09:35 GMT
#14
After STX Pan Ocean's recent bankruptcy filing, the STX Corporation has decided to focus a majority of its resources into its shipbuilding operations, STX Offshore and Shipbuilding, in an attempt to turn the company around. They are currently trying to sell a lot of the other assets that they acquired in recent years. Obviously, this would indicate that STX Soul is expendable. Also, other people have indicated that they have ceased their football team sponsorship.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 09:38:43
June 29 2013 09:36 GMT
#15
On June 29 2013 18:29 DifuntO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 18:19 Fionn wrote:


Besides being reportedly having a debt over $9,000,000,000, there has been some other tidbits that people believe are signs that STX Soul could be on their last legs.



That's should be ₩ right?,not dollars


no 10+ trillion ₩
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 29 2013 09:37 GMT
#16
On June 29 2013 18:34 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 18:31 bo1b wrote:
On June 29 2013 18:29 DifuntO wrote:
On June 29 2013 18:19 Fionn wrote:


Besides being reportedly having a debt over $9,000,000,000, there has been some other tidbits that people believe are signs that STX Soul could be on their last legs.



That's should be ₩ right?,not dollars

Its worth 23bn, 9mil in debt for a company of that size is frankly irrelevant.


Why would STX file for bankruptcy over a $9,000,000 debt if they are worth $23,000,000,000?

Because 9 billion won is equivalent to 9 mil? Less in fact.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
June 29 2013 09:39 GMT
#17
On June 29 2013 18:29 DifuntO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 18:19 Fionn wrote:


Besides being reportedly having a debt over $9,000,000,000, there has been some other tidbits that people believe are signs that STX Soul could be on their last legs.



That's should be ₩ right?,not dollars

No, it is dollars actually, their debt is estimated to be at around 9 to 12 billion $. In Won, this would accordingly measure in trillions.
They have been in trouble for a while now, tbh.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 29 2013 09:40 GMT
#18
On June 29 2013 18:37 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 18:34 Dodgin wrote:
On June 29 2013 18:31 bo1b wrote:
On June 29 2013 18:29 DifuntO wrote:
On June 29 2013 18:19 Fionn wrote:


Besides being reportedly having a debt over $9,000,000,000, there has been some other tidbits that people believe are signs that STX Soul could be on their last legs.



That's should be ₩ right?,not dollars

Its worth 23bn, 9mil in debt for a company of that size is frankly irrelevant.


Why would STX file for bankruptcy over a $9,000,000 debt if they are worth $23,000,000,000?

Because 9 billion won is equivalent to 9 mil? Less in fact.


That doesn't answer my question at all, I'm asking why they would file for chapter 15 if their debt is less than 0.001% of their company's value?
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 29 2013 09:40 GMT
#19
Not again... :-/
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
June 29 2013 09:40 GMT
#20
I want to believe to a merge between GSTL and ProLeague that will become inevitable eventually if teams starts to close here and there
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
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