EPTReally, you wonder why a post counting how many people thought players should be ranked higher/lower didn't include your opinion saying how this entire thing is a pointless and a terrible mistake? You actually wonder this?
SC2 Power Rank - June 2013 - Page 35
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
Really, you wonder why a post counting how many people thought players should be ranked higher/lower didn't include your opinion saying how this entire thing is a pointless and a terrible mistake? You actually wonder this? | ||
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yrt123
Singapore1246 Posts
On June 09 2013 18:21 PerSe wrote: Whilst I do think MVP (and the terran side bracket in general) had an easier run-in, I think he also deserves a place in the Power Rank above Hero. Not terribly impressed with Roro or Symbol either. Roro didn't do too bad. Him losing to Soulkey and Innovation are expected. These guys are beasts against Zerg. | ||
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
10. Leenock 9. Kangho 8. Symbol 7. Rain 6. Life 5. Roro 4. Flash 3. sOs 2. Soulkey 1. Bogus I excluded PartinG because he is just lucky. I excluded Mvp because he only beat eSF players which are by now proven to be weaker and also because he himself says that he is not actually that good. Bringing Life, Roro and Flash into order is really hard and I am absolutely not sure about it. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
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Evil_Sheep
Canada902 Posts
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1652 Posts
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insanet
Peru439 Posts
On June 09 2013 08:21 FabledIntegral wrote: You can tell all the ppl bitching about power rank were not here in BW times. I'd say every single person from BW knows not to take it as a fact, and the vast majority enjoy it. It's wholly subjective and it's very clearly obvious that it is. it is very easy to say it now that those days are gone, but there was a lot of drama each time Flash was put above Jaedong even when Jaedong was ahead of wins in the month reviewed. On another side, what the new guys dont know is that Power Rank once is published is never changed. so whine all you want but Hero is gonna be 10 no matter what. | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On June 09 2013 18:42 insanet wrote: it is very easy to say it now that those days are gone, but there was a lot of drama each time Flash was put above Jaedong even when Jaedong was ahead of wins in the month reviewed. What the new guys dont know is that Power Rank once is published is never changed. so whine all you want but Hero is gonna be 10 no matter what. I'm not whining, I'm just saying it's a very dumb pick considering he's one of the most overrated players to have played at the top level. Meanwhile Mvp has been at the top for 2 and a half years now? Sure, not consistently, but somehow he always finds his way back up there. | ||
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rename
Estonia329 Posts
On June 09 2013 18:45 Naphal wrote: hmm hmm now i can expect Mvp in the top10 next month right? and from there it begins, the conquest of the number 1 seat! Mvp should be at the 8th spot until he finally manages to lose in a ro8. | ||
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insanet
Peru439 Posts
On June 09 2013 18:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote: I'm not whining, I'm just saying it's a very dumb pick considering he's one of the most overrated players to have played at the top level. Meanwhile Mvp has been at the top for 2 and a half years now? Sure, not consistently, but somehow he always finds his way back up there. i wasnt talking about you, just ppl in general,anyways, i used to complaint a lot too at the BW Power Ranks and im not ashamed lol. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On June 09 2013 18:51 rename wrote: Mvp should be at the 8th spot until he finally manages to lose in a ro8. It's not like he completely dropped out of Code A in Korea, nope, not at all. Also he was lucky because his road this WCS was relatively easy. Beating foreigners in EU -> Beat 1 WCS KR (Losira) and lost to a non WCS KR (Alicia) in ro16 -> Facing a non WCS KR in ro8 (forgg) -> Losing to a WCS KR Korean (Innovation). Most over-the-weekend events are a lot harder than that run. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On June 09 2013 18:54 insanet wrote: i wasnt talking about you, just ppl in general,anyways, i used to complaint a lot too at the BW Power Ranks and im not ashamed lol. I understand you weren't talking about me, but it's such a gross generalization to assume that everyone pointing out the flaws in this is someone new who wasn't around during the BW period and doesn't understand how Power Ranks work. I thought the choice was bullshit from the get-go and now this weekend's event proved me right. When people doubt him most, Mvp finds a way. Maybe he didn't win this time, but he took more maps off of Bogus than everyone else combined in the Grand Finals.  | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On June 09 2013 18:59 DrPandaPhD wrote: It's not like he completely dropped out of Code A in Korea, nope, not at all. Also he was lucky because his road this WCS was relatively easy. Beating foreigners in EU -> Beat 1 WCS KR (Losira) and lost to a non WCS KR (Alicia) in ro16 -> Facing a non WCS KR in ro8 (forgg) -> Losing to a WCS KR Korean (Innovation). Most over-the-weekend events are a lot harder than that run. Do you seriously, legitimately believe that which WCS region a player comes from is more important than who the player is and how good he is? (hint: everyone you mentioned has been playing very well recently) And lol, you say "Losing to a WCS KR Korean" as if Bogus weren't the best player in the world for a while now... get over yourself. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On June 09 2013 18:59 DrPandaPhD wrote: It's not like he completely dropped out of Code A in Korea, nope, not at all. Also he was lucky because his road this WCS was relatively easy. Beating foreigners in EU -> Beat 1 WCS KR (Losira) and lost to a non WCS KR (Alicia) in ro16 -> Facing a non WCS KR in ro8 (forgg) -> Losing to a WCS KR Korean (Innovation). Most over-the-weekend events are a lot harder than that run. It's not like that drop wasn't way back in WoL after many seasons of being in code S. Nope, not at all. His run combined with being the only person this weekend to make Bogus sweat buys him a spot on this list. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On June 09 2013 19:05 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Do you seriously, legitimately believe that which WCS region a player comes from is more important than who the player is and how good he is? (hint: everyone you mentioned has been playing very well recently) And lol, you say "Losing to a WCS KR Korean" as if Bogus weren't the best player in the world for a while now... get over yourself. Power ranking is like "best player right now." Previous results doesn't really matter that much, otherwise Flash would be #1 for a long time. So don't know why you think we should take that into account.. This means you have to take the WCS region into account since it was his most recent tournament to determine how good he is right now, right? And are you really going to argue that WCS Eu is more difficult than WCS Korea? On June 09 2013 19:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: It's not like that drop wasn't way back in WoL after many seasons of being in code S. Nope, not at all. His run combined with being the only person this weekend to make Bogus sweat buys him a spot on this list. I only replied to him not being able to lose in a ro8. Which he did 2 seasons ago. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On June 09 2013 18:59 DrPandaPhD wrote: It's not like he completely dropped out of Code A in Korea, nope, not at all. Also he was lucky because his road this WCS was relatively easy. Beating foreigners in EU -> Beat 1 WCS KR (Losira) and lost to a non WCS KR (Alicia) in ro16 -> Facing a non WCS KR in ro8 (forgg) -> Losing to a WCS KR Korean (Innovation). Most over-the-weekend events are a lot harder than that run. Beating Ryung and Forgg in TvT, then almost beat Innovation in TvT is an extremely good run. Him falling out of GSL is irrelevant to the current situation, it was in WoL. And no he didn't lose in the ro8, I don't know what you're talking about. He lost in the ro32. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mvp_(player)/Results Go through that list, he doesn't have a single ro8 finish in a premier tournament. That's the joke that rename was referring to. | ||
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
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hXc_
179 Posts
Though he's the WCS EU champion, he was just barely nudged out by HerO. In revenge for this snub, MVP will probably just go on to win the WCS season finals anyways. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On June 09 2013 19:13 Dodgin wrote: Beating Ryung and Forgg in TvT, then almost beat Innovation in TvT is an extremely good run. Him falling out of GSL is irrelevant to the current situation, it was in WoL. I think we have a very different definition on what is an "extremely good run." If beating Forgg + Ryung into losing vs Innovation makes for an "extremely good run". Then there are quite a few terrans who could make for an extremely good run. | ||
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