• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:18
CEST 08:18
KST 15:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!13Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4841 users

SC2 Power Rank - June 2013 - Page 34

Forum Index > SC2 General
866 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 44 Next All
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
June 09 2013 02:48 GMT
#661
On June 09 2013 09:17 takingbackoj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 08:21 FabledIntegral wrote:
You can tell all the ppl bitching about power rank were not here in BW times.

I'd say every single person from BW knows not to take it as a fact, and the vast majority enjoy it. It's wholly subjective and it's very clearly obvious that it is.

If you are familiar with other sports then you would know this as well. The whole point of power rankings is to ignite disagreement and debate. Ive yet to see an NFL PR in my 17 years of fandom that I didn't hate with a passion but also love reading and talking about at the same time.

The only one who loses with PR's is the ranker himself. Everyone thinks hes a biased idiot no matter what.

Aww, and I was thinking the person who did the rankings was pretty smart... I agreed almost completely
Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
June 09 2013 05:01 GMT
#662
MVP and sOs proving their haters wrong in the WCS season 1 global finals
The Devil Terran - The Ambitious Terran - The Towel Terran - The Macro Master Terran - The Tyrant
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 05:14:27
June 09 2013 05:13 GMT
#663
I counted up the disagreements made in this thread:

On the debate between Soulkey and Innovation:
  • Innovation > Soulkey: 39
  • Soulkey > Innovation: 23

On Hero's placement in #10
  • Hero deserves the spot: 20
  • Hero does not deserve the spot: 10
  • Kangho deserves it over Hero: 7
  • Hero deserves it over Kangho: 5
  • Kangho does not deserve it(Implying Hero deserves it): 3
  • MVP deserves it over Hero: 8
  • Hero deserves it over MVP: 10
  • MVP does not deserve it(Implying Hero deserves it): 2
  • Bomber deserves it over Hero 1
  • TY deserves it over HerO 1
  • Jangbi deserves it over HerO: 1
  • Hero should have been higher: 1

On placements 3-9:
  • Soulkey should have been lower: 1
  • Flash should have been higher: 2
  • Flash should have been lower: 6
  • Flash should have been over Soulkey: 1
  • Rain should have been over Flash: 3
  • Rain should have been lower: 2
  • Symbol should have been lower: 10
  • Symbol should have been higher: 1
  • Symbol should have been over Rain: 1
  • RorO should have been lower: 3
  • RorO should have been over Symbol: 3
  • Life should have been higher: 8
  • Life should have been lower: 2
  • Life's placement is good: 3
  • Life should have been over Flash: 1
  • Life should have been over Rain: 1
  • Life should have been over Symbol: 3
  • Life should have been over Roro: 3
  • sOs should have been lower: 2
  • Parting should have been lower: 4

Others:
  • Jangbi should have been in CBNC: 2
  • Kangho should have been higher: 1
  • Leenock should have been on the list: 1
  • MVP should have been over RorO: 1

Moderator
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19373 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 05:17:35
June 09 2013 05:17 GMT
#664
On June 09 2013 14:13 monk wrote:
I counted up the disagreements made in this thread:
+ Show Spoiler +

On the debate between Soulkey and Innovation:
  • Innovation > Soulkey: 39
  • Soulkey > Innovation: 23

On Hero's placement in #10
  • Hero deserves the spot: 20
  • Hero does not deserve the spot: 10
  • Kangho deserves it over Hero: 7
  • Hero deserves it over Kangho: 5
  • Kangho does not deserve it(Implying Hero deserves it): 3
  • MVP deserves it over Hero: 8
  • Hero deserves it over MVP: 10
  • MVP does not deserve it(Implying Hero deserves it): 2
  • Bomber deserves it over Hero 1
  • TY deserves it over HerO 1
  • Jangbi deserves it over HerO: 1
  • Hero should have been higher: 1

On placements 3-9:
  • Soulkey should have been lower: 1
  • Flash should have been higher: 2
  • Flash should have been lower: 6
  • Flash should have been over Soulkey: 1
  • Rain should have been over Flash: 3
  • Rain should have been lower: 2
  • Symbol should have been lower: 10
  • Symbol should have been higher: 1
  • Symbol should have been over Rain: 1
  • RorO should have been lower: 3
  • RorO should have been over Symbol: 3
  • Life should have been higher: 8
  • Life should have been lower: 2
  • Life's placement is good: 3
  • Life should have been over Flash: 1
  • Life should have been over Rain: 1
  • Life should have been over Symbol: 3
  • Life should have been over Roro: 3
  • sOs should have been lower: 2
  • Parting should have been lower: 4

Others:
  • Jangbi should have been in CBNC: 2
  • Kangho should have been higher: 1
  • Leenock should have been on the list: 1
  • MVP should have been over RorO: 1


You totally disregarded the Bisu count!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 09 2013 06:44 GMT
#665
Haha. You're crazy, monk. :D
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 09 2013 06:49 GMT
#666
I think MVP is definitely making it next month :p
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 09 2013 06:51 GMT
#667
On June 09 2013 15:49 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I think MVP is definitely making it next month :p


He didn't beat anyone in the top 10.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 09 2013 06:57 GMT
#668
On June 09 2013 15:51 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:49 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I think MVP is definitely making it next month :p


He didn't beat anyone in the top 10.


He beat the #1 player twice, what do you mean?
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 07:34:05
June 09 2013 07:00 GMT
#669
The heated and (un)reasonable discussions in here makes this Power Rank a wothy successor to the SC:BW one.
Wonderful
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 09 2013 07:01 GMT
#670
On June 09 2013 15:51 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:49 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I think MVP is definitely making it next month :p


He didn't beat anyone in the top 10.


So...?

He barely lost to the #1 and had a good run overall AND still has his EU win. That's more than I can say for some on this list currently.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
June 09 2013 07:04 GMT
#671
Did MVP had an easier road to WCS S1 because he went to Europe?
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 09 2013 07:06 GMT
#672
On June 08 2013 23:21 Magbane wrote:
It seems that TL writers always try to make themselves sound like they are The fact source. Like this "power rank", which is 100% arbitrary and biased, yet they are trying to make that list sound like its somekind of fact.

What is the fucking point of that list? it has no real value. Hell, even TLPD is not good enough ranking system to define best players, its actually very bad system. According to TLPD, current best sc2 player is Life, give me a break here.


My god, you are ridiculously pissed off about this. Stop taking it so seriously.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 09 2013 09:01 GMT
#673
Can we talk some more about this now that the season finals are over?
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 09 2013 09:03 GMT
#674
Bogus cemented at #1 as he should have been

MVP broke into the list as far as I'm concerned.

Symbol rank down

sOs up

HerO out
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
June 09 2013 09:06 GMT
#675
On June 09 2013 14:13 monk wrote:
I counted up the disagreements made in this thread:

On the debate between Soulkey and Innovation:
  • Innovation > Soulkey: 39
  • Soulkey > Innovation: 23

On Hero's placement in #10
  • Hero deserves the spot: 20
  • Hero does not deserve the spot: 10
  • Kangho deserves it over Hero: 7
  • Hero deserves it over Kangho: 5
  • Kangho does not deserve it(Implying Hero deserves it): 3
  • MVP deserves it over Hero: 8
  • Hero deserves it over MVP: 10
  • MVP does not deserve it(Implying Hero deserves it): 2
  • Bomber deserves it over Hero 1
  • TY deserves it over HerO 1
  • Jangbi deserves it over HerO: 1
  • Hero should have been higher: 1

On placements 3-9:
  • Soulkey should have been lower: 1
  • Flash should have been higher: 2
  • Flash should have been lower: 6
  • Flash should have been over Soulkey: 1
  • Rain should have been over Flash: 3
  • Rain should have been lower: 2
  • Symbol should have been lower: 10
  • Symbol should have been higher: 1
  • Symbol should have been over Rain: 1
  • RorO should have been lower: 3
  • RorO should have been over Symbol: 3
  • Life should have been higher: 8
  • Life should have been lower: 2
  • Life's placement is good: 3
  • Life should have been over Flash: 1
  • Life should have been over Rain: 1
  • Life should have been over Symbol: 3
  • Life should have been over Roro: 3
  • sOs should have been lower: 2
  • Parting should have been lower: 4

Others:
  • Jangbi should have been in CBNC: 2
  • Kangho should have been higher: 1
  • Leenock should have been on the list: 1
  • MVP should have been over RorO: 1


I wonder why you didn't count my opinion ?!
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
June 09 2013 09:08 GMT
#676
On June 09 2013 18:06 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:13 monk wrote:
I counted up the disagreements made in this thread:

On the debate between Soulkey and Innovation:
  • Innovation > Soulkey: 39
  • Soulkey > Innovation: 23

On Hero's placement in #10
  • Hero deserves the spot: 20
  • Hero does not deserve the spot: 10
  • Kangho deserves it over Hero: 7
  • Hero deserves it over Kangho: 5
  • Kangho does not deserve it(Implying Hero deserves it): 3
  • MVP deserves it over Hero: 8
  • Hero deserves it over MVP: 10
  • MVP does not deserve it(Implying Hero deserves it): 2
  • Bomber deserves it over Hero 1
  • TY deserves it over HerO 1
  • Jangbi deserves it over HerO: 1
  • Hero should have been higher: 1

On placements 3-9:
  • Soulkey should have been lower: 1
  • Flash should have been higher: 2
  • Flash should have been lower: 6
  • Flash should have been over Soulkey: 1
  • Rain should have been over Flash: 3
  • Rain should have been lower: 2
  • Symbol should have been lower: 10
  • Symbol should have been higher: 1
  • Symbol should have been over Rain: 1
  • RorO should have been lower: 3
  • RorO should have been over Symbol: 3
  • Life should have been higher: 8
  • Life should have been lower: 2
  • Life's placement is good: 3
  • Life should have been over Flash: 1
  • Life should have been over Rain: 1
  • Life should have been over Symbol: 3
  • Life should have been over Roro: 3
  • sOs should have been lower: 2
  • Parting should have been lower: 4

Others:
  • Jangbi should have been in CBNC: 2
  • Kangho should have been higher: 1
  • Leenock should have been on the list: 1
  • MVP should have been over RorO: 1


I wonder why you didn't count my opinion ?!

Because it's a dumb opinion.
Moderator
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 09:14:10
June 09 2013 09:11 GMT
#677
WCS finals proved that this Power Rank was good. All Kespa players qualified from groups and Innovation won. MVP still hasn't proved that he can beat top Kespa players. Also Proleague has the best players by far. In both WCS Korea and WCS finals 3 semi-semifinalists were Kespa players.
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
June 09 2013 09:13 GMT
#678
On June 09 2013 18:03 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Bogus cemented at #1 as he should have been

MVP broke into the list as far as I'm concerned.

Symbol rank down

sOs up

HerO out


yeah... go mvp. EU represent!
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 09 2013 09:14 GMT
#679
On June 09 2013 18:11 p14c wrote:
WCS finals proved that this Power Rank was good. All Kespa players qualified from groups and Innovation won. MVP still hasn't proved that he can beat top Kespa players.


Once again, Mvp beat Innovation twice, yes he lost the series but he was the only player at the finals to give Innovation trouble. Soulkey probably could have done the same but he's already #2 on the list and current GSL champion so that surprises no one.
PerSe
Profile Joined June 2013
United Kingdom550 Posts
June 09 2013 09:21 GMT
#680
Whilst I do think MVP (and the terran side bracket in general) had an easier run-in, I think he also deserves a place in the Power Rank above Hero. Not terribly impressed with Roro or Symbol either.
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 44 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft566
Nina 111
ProTech79
FoxeR 49
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3564
GuemChi 1962
PianO 579
Noble 73
sorry 20
Icarus 9
Dota 2
The International27791
Gorgc12080
Fuzer 278
NeuroSwarm101
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox247
C9.Mang0168
Mew2King93
Other Games
summit1g5555
ceh9154
Maynarde131
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH278
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 690
League of Legends
• Rush1348
• Stunt841
• HappyZerGling67
Upcoming Events
Escore
3h 42m
PiG Sty Festival
5h 42m
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs Zoun
Big Brain Bouts
9h 42m
Nicoract vs Neeb
TriGGeR vs ShoWTimE
CranKy Ducklings
1d 3h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 5h
herO vs Krystianer
Solar vs Cure
IPSL
1d 9h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
IPSL
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The Patches Monday
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-13
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W7
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.