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SC2 Power Rank - June 2013 - Page 32

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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
June 07 2013 01:16 GMT
#621
oh how I miss power rank arguments

<3
Writer
forumtext
Profile Joined September 2011
575 Posts
June 07 2013 02:18 GMT
#622
How come Innovation gets to have 2 months of data?
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
June 07 2013 02:21 GMT
#623
On June 07 2013 10:16 ]343[ wrote:
oh how I miss power rank arguments

<3

These are the parts of TL that need to be highlighted in pony tales .
User was warned for too many mimes.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
June 07 2013 08:03 GMT
#624
So much for Hero ranking above MVP :D.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 07 2013 08:15 GMT
#625
It´s a power rank for a month, not a single series. If Innovation appears to be the better player for a longer stretch of time, then it absolutely makes sense to rank him above a guy who beat him. If you want the latter, you should follow the inofficial world champion thread, where the last win gets you the title, and not consistency. And it´s ok like that, because it´s a joke.

Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 07 2013 09:55 GMT
#626
ForGG for top 10
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 07 2013 10:43 GMT
#627
I like the power rank. It feels like the gossip colloms in magazines. Light to read but always entertaining.
I had a good night of sleep.
yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
June 07 2013 10:48 GMT
#628
On June 07 2013 17:03 Dreamer.T wrote:
So much for Hero ranking above MVP :D.


HerO's group > Group Code B
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 07 2013 11:01 GMT
#629
On June 07 2013 17:03 Dreamer.T wrote:
So much for Hero ranking above MVP :D.

Mvp had the easier group.
Moderatorlickypiddy
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 11:50:09
June 07 2013 11:49 GMT
#630
I remember when Power Ranks used to get me really worked up. Now just seeing Flash's name is enough for me.
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
June 07 2013 12:10 GMT
#631
"Power resides where men think it resides." -- Lord Varys, Master of Whispers.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
June 07 2013 12:37 GMT
#632
On June 07 2013 19:48 yrt123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 17:03 Dreamer.T wrote:
So much for Hero ranking above MVP :D.


HerO's group > Group Code B

HerO's Game 2 vs sOs = fucking embarrassing
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 07 2013 15:26 GMT
#633
lol this thread is full of so much disagreement.

Thanks monk, thanks others, you're a great guy.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 07 2013 16:50 GMT
#634
I think the battle for number 1 spot is debatable. I have no issue of it going to Innovation, but like some of the others here, I did not quite like the write-up on Soulkey, which I felt were rather demeaning, and unnecessary.

Points to consider:

- Soulkey was a beast towards the end of BW, a contender for individual leagues
- Soulkey's recent SPL results are impressive
- Soulkey's past GSL runs before this were rather consistent RO8 twice (almost as good as Innovation's). Also, he even 4-0 Life in one of the RO16 games.
- Soulkey's overall play in the last GSL may be slightly worse than innovation, but still solid (the game against sOs was a team-kill, and should not really been looked too much into).

Hence, I don't think comparing him to Seed, Sniper and Jjajki are fair at all.

"And especially in the finals, it seemed as if Innovation had lost the championship rather than that Soulkey had won it" - I don't agree with this 'perception' (which I have explained many times in my previous posts). And even if it was true that Innovation had lost the championship, then this sole important factor disqualifies him from being Number 1.

Ultimately, I feel that the reasons given to justify Innovation being Number 1, and Soulkey being Number 2, rather unsatisfactory. My suggestion for future PR write-ups is make it short and simple, and cut out unnecessary, controversial subjective views. Whilst PR should provoke debate, I think PR should also remain fair and reasonable in the justifications made.

That said, I look forward for the next PR.
gg no re thx
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
June 07 2013 18:52 GMT
#635
In Dota ranks you have been able to rank mouz and you on 3. Why are you not able to rank Soulkey and Inovation on 1 too?
1raxexpand
Profile Joined July 2012
United States165 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 21:28:14
June 07 2013 21:26 GMT
#636
On June 07 2013 19:48 yrt123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 17:03 Dreamer.T wrote:
So much for Hero ranking above MVP :D.


HerO's group > Group Code B

Well he wasn't supposed to be raped by forGG. And Symbol is pretty easy. But that was very funny lol
Mvp-forGG-MKP-Bogus-Ty-MMA-Polt-Taeja-Flash
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
June 07 2013 21:32 GMT
#637
On June 08 2013 01:50 RKC wrote:
I think the battle for number 1 spot is debatable. I have no issue of it going to Innovation, but like some of the others here, I did not quite like the write-up on Soulkey, which I felt were rather demeaning, and unnecessary.

Points to consider:

- Soulkey was a beast towards the end of BW, a contender for individual leagues
- Soulkey's recent SPL results are impressive
- Soulkey's past GSL runs before this were rather consistent RO8 twice (almost as good as Innovation's). Also, he even 4-0 Life in one of the RO16 games.
- Soulkey's overall play in the last GSL may be slightly worse than innovation, but still solid (the game against sOs was a team-kill, and should not really been looked too much into).

Hence, I don't think comparing him to Seed, Sniper and Jjajki are fair at all.

"And especially in the finals, it seemed as if Innovation had lost the championship rather than that Soulkey had won it" - I don't agree with this 'perception' (which I have explained many times in my previous posts). And even if it was true that Innovation had lost the championship, then this sole important factor disqualifies him from being Number 1.

Ultimately, I feel that the reasons given to justify Innovation being Number 1, and Soulkey being Number 2, rather unsatisfactory. My suggestion for future PR write-ups is make it short and simple, and cut out unnecessary, controversial subjective views. Whilst PR should provoke debate, I think PR should also remain fair and reasonable in the justifications made.

That said, I look forward for the next PR.

Fair enough. The intent wasn't to demean Soulkey but rather to justify Innovation #1/Soulkey #2. It just didn't come out the way I intended it to.

On June 08 2013 03:52 tadL wrote:
In Dota ranks you have been able to rank mouz and you on 3. Why are you not able to rank Soulkey and Inovation on 1 too?

Cause we(SC2 writing staff) can make the hard decisions, unlike the TL Dota writing staff.

Boom, shots fired.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 08 2013 01:13 GMT
#638
On June 08 2013 06:32 monk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 01:50 RKC wrote:
I think the battle for number 1 spot is debatable. I have no issue of it going to Innovation, but like some of the others here, I did not quite like the write-up on Soulkey, which I felt were rather demeaning, and unnecessary.

Points to consider:

- Soulkey was a beast towards the end of BW, a contender for individual leagues
- Soulkey's recent SPL results are impressive
- Soulkey's past GSL runs before this were rather consistent RO8 twice (almost as good as Innovation's). Also, he even 4-0 Life in one of the RO16 games.
- Soulkey's overall play in the last GSL may be slightly worse than innovation, but still solid (the game against sOs was a team-kill, and should not really been looked too much into).

Hence, I don't think comparing him to Seed, Sniper and Jjajki are fair at all.

"And especially in the finals, it seemed as if Innovation had lost the championship rather than that Soulkey had won it" - I don't agree with this 'perception' (which I have explained many times in my previous posts). And even if it was true that Innovation had lost the championship, then this sole important factor disqualifies him from being Number 1.

Ultimately, I feel that the reasons given to justify Innovation being Number 1, and Soulkey being Number 2, rather unsatisfactory. My suggestion for future PR write-ups is make it short and simple, and cut out unnecessary, controversial subjective views. Whilst PR should provoke debate, I think PR should also remain fair and reasonable in the justifications made.

That said, I look forward for the next PR.

Fair enough. The intent wasn't to demean Soulkey but rather to justify Innovation #1/Soulkey #2. It just didn't come out the way I intended it to.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 03:52 tadL wrote:
In Dota ranks you have been able to rank mouz and you on 3. Why are you not able to rank Soulkey and Inovation on 1 too?

Cause we(SC2 writing staff) can make the hard decisions, unlike the TL Dota writing staff.

Boom, shots fired.


Sorry to focus on the negatives, monk. Everything else was fine, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It isn't easy stating bold predictions, and strong opinions. Keep it up!

P.S. I hope it's not a ForGG v Alicia finals for WCS Global, for your sake - that would be a great headache writing the next PR lol
gg no re thx
bhfberserk
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada390 Posts
June 08 2013 12:36 GMT
#639
The day people count Mvp out is the day Mvp takes another world final!
GO KING OF WINGS!
Magbane
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland95 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 13:19:06
June 08 2013 13:10 GMT
#640
Interesting how (liquid member) hero got to the list while mvp got left out because Hero beat two more higher caliber players than mvp in tournament, while soulkey's GSL victory over innovation in Bo7 was widely ignored.

Also Flash is highly overrated in that power rank, he is not even close to being third best player in the starcraft 2 right now. The flash bias is so ridicilous.

What is the point of this "power rank" because this is not objective analysis at all about who is the best player currently.
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