• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:22
CEST 14:22
KST 21:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 213ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes37Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
IP For new Brazil servers for NA Players 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon
Tourneys
Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 HomeStory Cup 29 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BW General Discussion FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12001 users

SeleCT returns to SC2 - Page 10

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 15 Next All
Prevolved
Profile Joined March 2011
United States573 Posts
May 27 2013 09:09 GMT
#181
glad you're back select, really enjoyed watching you play
Know thyself.
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 09:24:15
May 27 2013 09:14 GMT
#182
Definitely a good decision by Select considering he was always a good player at SC2. WCS definitely helps and is a good incentive for him to return (now that he has more chances to win).

On May 27 2013 05:45 Wildmoon wrote:
Don't know why he decided to comeback but I am glad anyway.


The best part of 1v1 game is that you can show your skills better and not be blamed by everything from keyboard warriors on the internet as much. I remember reading a few posts in the Dota 2 forums and seen a decent amount of insults and negativity towards him for some reason (of course it may be a minority I only read a few posts of a thread).

On May 27 2013 14:02 yyfpulls wrote:
Bye bye please stay out of dota2 now.


See, these types of comments is what I don't get and is what is not giving me a good impression of the MOBA community. SC2 may have its haters but outside a few exceptions (and some situations, like foreigners getting seeds into GSL), the SC2 community treats its players well. Even players that gained a bit of infamy (like the Terran Rain) all were respected, especially when they left the scene (I remember reading the Rain retiring thread and nearly every single comment gave him respect and wished him fair well with almost no one hating on him).

On May 27 2013 05:29 SolidMoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 05:27 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Not a surprise really, he stated he left Qpad yesterday and he hadn't played Dota for three days. I guess the mindset required for MOBAs just doesn't fit the mindset of RTS gamers, as we have seen in CoCa, Puzzle and sC. Glad to see SeleCT return to the scene.


You realize he played DotA before SC2 right?


Yes, he played WC3 DotA before SC2 (when he retired from SC2, he also mentioned that he played Dota before SC2, and just wanted to return to the scene). He did decently in Dota before, so it's not like he wasn't used to it before.

I say it's not the case of mindset for MOBAs but the fact that being good at 1v1 games is more rewarding than being good at team games.

No matter how good you are, you are still limited because it's a team game (team coordination impacts the game way more than what individual skill can make up for in most cases).

And again, if you are a decent player in a game (enough to make it far in tournaments consistently) than you might as well stay playing the same game unless you don't enjoy it as much as another. Coca and Puzzle and sC all returned to SC2 (despite the huge break) as good players still (Coca and Puzzle owning the group stages and making it to the play offs at Dreamhack, despite only returning to HotS for like a month or 2) and sC owning it up in the GSTL a decent amount of times. Seems like Select is doing just as well too making it to

On May 27 2013 06:53 StarStruck wrote:
Dota2 and LoL aren't as easy as they seem huh SeleCT. ^-^


Again, he played Dota professionally before SC2, probably even before most are playing Dota right now. Plus, just because you don't succeed in the game, doesn't mean it's harder (especially if it's a team game where your individual skill doesn't have as much impact in the game as team coordination).
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
Littlemuff
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom301 Posts
May 27 2013 09:15 GMT
#183
I dont see why Liquid wouldn't pick him up. Lacking Terrans, he's a nice guy, gel with both the SC2 and Dota teams and is a good community figure.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12042 Posts
May 27 2013 09:27 GMT
#184
Wooooo SeleCT is back! Welcome back SeleCT, I've missed you!
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
qotsager
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany585 Posts
May 27 2013 09:28 GMT
#185
aaaw yeah, missed you select! <3
***Official ABL Winner 2013***
ArcadeR
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany199 Posts
May 27 2013 09:45 GMT
#186
Finally, didn't like his switch to dota...I think the actual SeleCT is better in a game where the results only depend on his own skill. Plus that the moba-communities are allways full of haters (looks like)... reminds me of football/soccer in Germany, the sport is nice. But most of the fans suck .

PS: Funny ppl in here that are actually kinda implying a moba is (skill/mechanical wise for each player) more difficult to play than an RTS. Funny, really!
kinsky
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany368 Posts
May 27 2013 10:03 GMT
#187
me is a happy panda now! welcome back, select!!
ClassicMilds
Profile Joined December 2011
India39 Posts
May 27 2013 10:50 GMT
#188
Great to see select come back.. Now KiwiKakis turn! =D
"What's the point of being an outlaw if I gotta have responsibilities?" "Darth Vadar had responsibilities- building the Death Star." " True Dat! Two of 'em, Yo! "
Orzabal
Profile Joined December 2009
France287 Posts
May 27 2013 10:57 GMT
#189
On May 27 2013 05:29 SolidMoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 05:27 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Not a surprise really, he stated he left Qpad yesterday and he hadn't played Dota for three days. I guess the mindset required for MOBAs just doesn't fit the mindset of RTS gamers, as we have seen in CoCa, Puzzle and sC. Glad to see SeleCT return to the scene.


You realize he played DotA before SC2 right?


And BabyKnight was a dota player right ?
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
May 27 2013 11:00 GMT
#190
I don't often watch Terran players outside of tournaments, but SeleCT was one of the few I did. Really happy to hear he'll be playing again.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10152 Posts
May 27 2013 11:00 GMT
#191
SUP SON ! SeleCTuu

one of my favorite along with :

"Don't worry, that's just halo" HuK
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
May 27 2013 11:13 GMT
#192
My theory for people who game hop different competitive games all the time are the type of players who learn fast and get good quick. So with new games there is the largest skill gap and opportunity for them to win money or just be a top player, and when they stick around in a scene too long other people catch up and surpass them so they move along to a new game. Is this the cast with Select? (or even partly?)
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
May 27 2013 11:14 GMT
#193
yay watched his stream couple days ago! SeleCT was a player who I watched to learn how to play terran, good to see him back!
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
May 27 2013 11:21 GMT
#194
Good shit :D
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 11:58:06
May 27 2013 11:45 GMT
#195
Haha I saw it at the streams and went all "you cannot fool me, you play dota2 lolo" and while I am typing this I already paused in the mid and opened the stream
Where is my ACE flair
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
May 27 2013 12:24 GMT
#196
On May 27 2013 19:57 Orzabal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 05:29 SolidMoose wrote:
On May 27 2013 05:27 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Not a surprise really, he stated he left Qpad yesterday and he hadn't played Dota for three days. I guess the mindset required for MOBAs just doesn't fit the mindset of RTS gamers, as we have seen in CoCa, Puzzle and sC. Glad to see SeleCT return to the scene.


You realize he played DotA before SC2 right?


And BabyKnight was a dota player right ?



yeah ^_^ from team navi i believe
this is a quote
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 27 2013 12:30 GMT
#197
Welcome back, always had a soft spot for SeleCT. SUP SON.
Tailss
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden233 Posts
May 27 2013 12:35 GMT
#198
Nice to see him back. I always enjoyed Select's aggressive playstyle.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
May 27 2013 12:39 GMT
#199
Great! I like Select even for a Terran.
Slartibartfast
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4 Posts
May 27 2013 12:48 GMT
#200
On May 27 2013 18:14 Goldfish wrote:

I say it's not the case of mindset for MOBAs but the fact that being good at 1v1 games is more rewarding than being good at team games.

No matter how good you are, you are still limited because it's a team game (team coordination impacts the game way more than what individual skill can make up for in most cases).

More rewarding? It really depends on the person. I really enjoy the team aspect of Dota 2, playing with friends, executing cool stuff and strats as a team, and so on.

You need a different skillset for both games, and I like them both, but playing Dota can be really rewarding in a different way than starcraft.
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
11:00
XXIX - Group Stage Day 2
TaKeTV2511
SteadfastSC424
TaKeSeN 361
IndyStarCraft 224
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 454
Ryung 374
IndyStarCraft 224
ProTech145
Rex 94
SHIN 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1509
Hyuk 1024
EffOrt 440
Soma 291
actioN 224
Last 169
Mong 146
ZerO 128
Pusan 108
Leta 74
[ Show more ]
hero 53
Sharp 53
ToSsGirL 50
JYJ 41
[sc1f]eonzerg 36
sorry 24
NaDa 21
JulyZerg 21
Barracks 20
Noble 20
Bale 19
yabsab 18
GoRush 14
Terrorterran 1
Dota 2
Dendi1322
XcaliburYe422
XaKoH 212
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1621
byalli686
edward118
kRYSTAL_1
Other Games
singsing1534
B2W.Neo922
Pyrionflax285
DeMusliM228
Hui .154
ToD111
Livibee83
QueenE44
ZerO(Twitch)10
Organizations
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 718
IntoTheiNu 525
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream217
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 21
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 121
• Adnapsc2 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2107
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
11h 38m
HomeStory Cup
22h 38m
OSC
1d
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W1
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.