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On May 21 2013 05:11 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 05:08 SCST wrote:Wow are people really going to support Papa John's entering E-sports? This company is one the scummiest in North America towards it's employees, not to mention it's a company with a political agenda that has nothing to do with it's business. Everyone forgetting that this company is one of the most hated for stating that giving employess healthcare wasn't worth raising their prices 14 cents? Aware that the CEO is openly preaching anti-gay bullshit constantly? Really, TLO and Incontrol are going to support these vile inhuman scum? Please get informed, people. Link to Forbes Article For the record, almost every major company in America is trying to screw it's employees out of healthcare. Benefits have been dropping precipitously and it's nigh impossible to get a full time (and therefore benefits worthy) position at a company nowadays. Everyone is either contract or part-time. Papa John's was just dumb enough to be proud of it, but they aren't unique.
It's one thing for a company to do it's business privately. It's entirely another to get on a soap box and push a political agenda publicly (i.e. trying to persuade people that fucking over employees and being anti-gay is a good thing).
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Y'all gonna end up being pizzaterians. Nice tactic from Papa John's to make you all fat unhealthy pizza addicts. They know that you will blow half your paycheck to support ESPORTS and get ingame skins.
First it was hats, then mechanical keyboards and now pizza's.
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On May 21 2013 05:13 SCST wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 05:11 Klondikebar wrote:On May 21 2013 05:08 SCST wrote:Wow are people really going to support Papa John's entering E-sports? This company is one the scummiest in North America towards it's employees, not to mention it's a company with a political agenda that has nothing to do with it's business. Everyone forgetting that this company is one of the most hated for stating that giving employess healthcare wasn't worth raising their prices 14 cents? Aware that the CEO is openly preaching anti-gay bullshit constantly? Really, TLO and Incontrol are going to support these vile inhuman scum? Please get informed, people. Link to Forbes Article For the record, almost every major company in America is trying to screw it's employees out of healthcare. Benefits have been dropping precipitously and it's nigh impossible to get a full time (and therefore benefits worthy) position at a company nowadays. Everyone is either contract or part-time. Papa John's was just dumb enough to be proud of it, but they aren't unique. It's one thing for a company to do it's business privately. It's entirely another to get on a soap box and push a political agenda publicly (i.e. trying to persuade people that fucking over employees and being anti-gay is a good thing).
I find it funny how someone from Mexico cares more about this than people that live in the United States, why do you care and what are you trying to prove?
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On May 21 2013 05:09 Exarl25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 05:07 Shalaiyn wrote:
You have a multi-billion dollar company which is willing to dip its toes into e-sports. That is fantastic!
However, this company's CEO has publicly stated they oppose a health-care plan in the USA (which is incredibly backwards), which is fundamentally an improvement of a very basic and necessary human right in a civilisation, because it might cost them five to eight million USD, which is barely a dent in their profits. All in the name of making the maximum profits, basic human needs be damned.
This is not a company I am willing to support, no matter if they back e-sports, which while it is something I enjoy; e-sports is far less important than having the USA improve its health-care system. So why Papa John's specifically? Just because it got some media attention? Do you vet every company you purchase from? Do you think Papa John's is significantly worse than the other places you get your food? Be consistent or drop the hypocritical idealism.
Why are you calling him a hypocrite? The reason why Papa John has gotten media attention is because it is noticeably bad in the issues mentioned, even if employees getting screwed over is a common thing among big companies nowadays. And how do you know he wouldn't treat other companies the same way if he were aware of their shady practices?
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On May 21 2013 05:12 Nightshade_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 05:11 SCST wrote:On May 21 2013 05:09 Exarl25 wrote:On May 21 2013 05:07 Shalaiyn wrote:
You have a multi-billion dollar company which is willing to dip its toes into e-sports. That is fantastic!
However, this company's CEO has publicly stated they oppose a health-care plan in the USA (which is incredibly backwards), which is fundamentally an improvement of a very basic and necessary human right in a civilisation, because it might cost them five to eight million USD, which is barely a dent in their profits. All in the name of making the maximum profits, basic human needs be damned.
This is not a company I am willing to support, no matter if they back e-sports, which while it is something I enjoy; e-sports is far less important than having the USA improve its health-care system. So why Papa John's specifically? Just because it got some media attention? Do you vet every company you purchase from? Do you think Papa John's is significantly worse than the other places you get your food? Be consistent or drop the hypocritical idealism. Papa johns is one of the more virulently anti-healthcare, anti gay companies in the United States. They entered the political arena for absolutely no purpose other than to peddle a ideological agenda. Please get informed. I heard private companies are allowed to do what they want because they are... private independent companies with CEO's that have opinions of their own? You call them intolerant but to do so makes you intolerant of their opinions making you as intolerant as them
No, I'm saying that pushing a political agenda against lower-class and minorities publicly is disgusting and doesn't help their business at all. In fact, it's already destroying their business. See article below:
Forbes Article on Papa Johns
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Haha I hope Tier 7 gets unlocked. I think I might buy pizza every day this week just to see that.
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On May 21 2013 05:09 Exarl25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 05:07 Shalaiyn wrote:
You have a multi-billion dollar company which is willing to dip its toes into e-sports. That is fantastic!
However, this company's CEO has publicly stated they oppose a health-care plan in the USA (which is incredibly backwards), which is fundamentally an improvement of a very basic and necessary human right in a civilisation, because it might cost them five to eight million USD, which is barely a dent in their profits. All in the name of making the maximum profits, basic human needs be damned.
This is not a company I am willing to support, no matter if they back e-sports, which while it is something I enjoy; e-sports is far less important than having the USA improve its health-care system. So why Papa John's specifically? Just because it got some media attention? Do you vet every company you purchase from? Do you think Papa John's is significantly worse than the other places you get your food? Be consistent or drop the hypocritical idealism.
Do you always yell at people when you're angry? No, but sometimes you do. People want to yell this time. Let them.
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Edit: nvm.
This deal looks good though. Wish it included Canada. 
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Such big news, I hope Papa Johns comes to Canada!
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Holy shit I love Papa Johns. This is amazing, thank you!
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On May 21 2013 05:14 Nightshade_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 05:13 SCST wrote:On May 21 2013 05:11 Klondikebar wrote:On May 21 2013 05:08 SCST wrote:Wow are people really going to support Papa John's entering E-sports? This company is one the scummiest in North America towards it's employees, not to mention it's a company with a political agenda that has nothing to do with it's business. Everyone forgetting that this company is one of the most hated for stating that giving employess healthcare wasn't worth raising their prices 14 cents? Aware that the CEO is openly preaching anti-gay bullshit constantly? Really, TLO and Incontrol are going to support these vile inhuman scum? Please get informed, people. Link to Forbes Article For the record, almost every major company in America is trying to screw it's employees out of healthcare. Benefits have been dropping precipitously and it's nigh impossible to get a full time (and therefore benefits worthy) position at a company nowadays. Everyone is either contract or part-time. Papa John's was just dumb enough to be proud of it, but they aren't unique. It's one thing for a company to do it's business privately. It's entirely another to get on a soap box and push a political agenda publicly (i.e. trying to persuade people that fucking over employees and being anti-gay is a good thing). I find it funny how someone from Mexico cares more about this than people that live in the United States, why do you care and what are you trying to prove?
I'm a U.S. citizen who is currently living in Mexico. Why the fuck would my living in Mexico not allow me to have an opinion on defending lower-class worker and gay people? Try harder.
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Are people against Papa Johns just for their political views? *Facepalm* It has nothing to do with eSports. First you're witchhunting players, now the fucking sponsors themselves. Papa Johns and its officials can have whatever opinion they want. Them having controversial opinions doesn't make them evil. If you don't agree with them, good for you, voice your opinion but don't talk down a good company like Papa Johns just because you disagree with them POLITICALLY. It's their fucking opinion. People, at least in the USA, have a right to an opinion.
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On May 21 2013 05:11 Nightshade_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 05:09 Exarl25 wrote:On May 21 2013 05:07 Shalaiyn wrote:
You have a multi-billion dollar company which is willing to dip its toes into e-sports. That is fantastic!
However, this company's CEO has publicly stated they oppose a health-care plan in the USA (which is incredibly backwards), which is fundamentally an improvement of a very basic and necessary human right in a civilisation, because it might cost them five to eight million USD, which is barely a dent in their profits. All in the name of making the maximum profits, basic human needs be damned.
This is not a company I am willing to support, no matter if they back e-sports, which while it is something I enjoy; e-sports is far less important than having the USA improve its health-care system. So why Papa John's specifically? Just because it got some media attention? Do you vet every company you purchase from? Do you think Papa John's is significantly worse than the other places you get your food? Be consistent or drop the hypocritical idealism. Don't worry, he makes sure to buy from all the companies that dont support what he also doesnt support.
If you don't want to give your employees a dental plan, then that's something that's retarded, but it's something every company does and I can't expect myself to live like a hermit because of my views.
However, when someone like Papa John's goes on public record stating this bullshit, and willingly enters the politics like this when they don't have to, in the name of the company and/or with reasoning for the company, when it is completely backwards and anti-human, then they can go fuck themselves.
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On May 21 2013 04:09 Skyline026 wrote:
EU WANTS PIZZA TOO!
This is America only? For shame...
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On May 21 2013 05:13 SCST wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 05:11 Klondikebar wrote:On May 21 2013 05:08 SCST wrote:Wow are people really going to support Papa John's entering E-sports? This company is one the scummiest in North America towards it's employees, not to mention it's a company with a political agenda that has nothing to do with it's business. Everyone forgetting that this company is one of the most hated for stating that giving employess healthcare wasn't worth raising their prices 14 cents? Aware that the CEO is openly preaching anti-gay bullshit constantly? Really, TLO and Incontrol are going to support these vile inhuman scum? Please get informed, people. Link to Forbes Article For the record, almost every major company in America is trying to screw it's employees out of healthcare. Benefits have been dropping precipitously and it's nigh impossible to get a full time (and therefore benefits worthy) position at a company nowadays. Everyone is either contract or part-time. Papa John's was just dumb enough to be proud of it, but they aren't unique. It's one thing for a company to do it's business privately. It's entirely another to get on a soap box and push a political agenda publicly (i.e. trying to persuade people that fucking over employees and being anti-gay is a good thing).
You've said this twice and I haven't seen anything supporting them being antigay. Another poster also said this earlier in the thread but then removed it because he realized he was thinking of something else...do you have any actual evidence showing this?
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you USAmericans better pull your fucking weight and eat a hefty amount of melted cheese this week because i need to see some of those tiers happen OK
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On May 21 2013 04:55 poboxy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2013 04:51 Zenbrez wrote:On May 21 2013 04:40 poboxy wrote:On May 21 2013 04:36 Sermokala wrote:On May 21 2013 04:34 faiza wrote:On May 21 2013 04:31 HolyArrow wrote:
Ewww, Papa John's... shitty company and John is a massive asshole. Basically this. I can't bring myself to support this company even if the incentives are great. #killingesports If you think about it what your getting is half off pizza from them. That means that they have to be selling these pizzas at a loss for this deal to work. So by supporting esports and buying pizzas from them this week you are both hurting pappa johns and supporting esports. I am actually quite disappointed by TL. This company promotes willingly the idea that homosexuals should have less right than others. This is just disgusting. Pecunia non olet. You're quite the unreasonable and unrational person. Mea Culpa http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18652916
Still stands, regardless of whether you were referring to the right people or not, the connection you made is still stupid. Lets say Papa Johns was against homosexuals, TL wanting to get a sponsorship from them has no bearing on their stance on homosexuals.
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It is nice for esports, but at the same time.. Papa John's.. lol.
And then there was the conference call with Papa John’s shareholders earlier this year where Schnatter added, “We’re not supportive of Obamacare, like most businesses in our industry. But our business model and unit economics are about as ideal as you can get for a food company to absorb Obamacare. If Obamacare is in fact not repealed, we will find tactics to shallow out any Obamacare costs (emphasis added) and core strategies to pass that cost onto consumers in order to protect our shareholders best interests.”
On that same call—and on other occasions—Schnatter indicated that the additional cost for a pizza could rise by 11 to 14 cents per pizza, however, Forbes writer Caleb Melby estimates those costs to be closer to 4 cents per pie.
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And who could forget "Lady Chinky Eyes"
He has since retracted a lot of what he said, it is clear how he feels about his employee's. Seems like a bit of a sleazy guy to get into business with, I mean really, getting pissed about having to raise prices a few cents to cover healthcare for your staff.. come on.
This guy, and his pizza's.. all I can do is laugh at this news. Good luck with this clown getting his shoe in the door.
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