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catplanetcatplanet
3830 Posts
13:10 KST:  First vs  hyvaa14:00: Trap vs Curious15:00: YongHwa vs Rain16:00: ParalyzE vs YugiOh18:10: Swagger vs Leenock19:00:  FanTaSy vs Avenge20:00: SuperNova vs DongRaeGu21:00: MarineKing vs JangBiThe other eight matches will not be broadcast live. Players whose matches will not be streamed include Creator, EffOrt, Hurricane, Squirtle, KeeN, ByuN, and RagnaroK. Squirtle vs Ruin, despite not being broadcast, is a match for Code S due to TaeJa's participation in WCS NA. | ||
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NguN
Australia1322 Posts
I really hope they get around this problem next season =(. | ||
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catplanetcatplanet
3830 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
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matt93
Australia32 Posts
 Get to see more of Leenock's ultra play, and maybe Swagger has a solution to it. | ||
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
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bGr.MetHiX
Bulgaria511 Posts
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
On May 06 2013 00:53 matt93 wrote: Really good matches but still I'm greedy and would've liked to have seen all the matches streamed Pretty much how I feel as well, although I don't think it's greed since it's just wanting what we used to get. | ||
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massivez
Belgium653 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
Hope they find a way to show the other matches somehow. | ||
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Maru vs Bbyong, Squirtle vs Ruin (teamkill for code S since Taeja is out) or Ragnarok vs Bunny blah | ||
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Nighthawks28
United States232 Posts
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wichenks
Canada153 Posts
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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FaZiNaTe
Germany290 Posts
Why the hell did we pay 110$ for a year of GSL Code A and Code S games if half of Code A is not even casted it's unacceptable, release the replays if you're not going back on your decision..... Last edit: 2013-05-06 07:25:57 this!! +1 User was warned for this post | ||
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ATiBright
59 Posts
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Gworkag
France33 Posts
Wewon't even have the VoD ? | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
I really don't get why they don't just stream on Mondays for 2-3 weeks and not miss any games as they never broadcast then anyways. | ||
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Fluffboll
Sweden516 Posts
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Darkdwarf
Sweden960 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Leenock and DRG should make it back to code S. MKP may as well start training for the up/down as there's no way he's getting past Life. With how he's been playing Jangbi might even send him packing | ||
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Scribble
2077 Posts
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Fluffboll
Sweden516 Posts
On May 06 2013 07:58 Scribble wrote: WCS 2013 has made a mess of several major tournaments and organizations. I really hope they just revert to the 2012 system next year. Next year might be too late, we get two more seasons in each region with this mess. A year is a really long time and if enough damage is taken from this sillyness SC2 might not recover. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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tozi
United States506 Posts
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Fluffboll
Sweden516 Posts
On May 06 2013 08:01 Fionn wrote: GOM is doing Sudden Attack (I think) and World of Tanks now. More e-sports means less time for SC2. Especially since SC2 already has Code S + GSTL. That might be so but it's still not acceptable to basically rip-off those that bought a year pass for Code S+A. Also you can't really reduce one sport just because you start with a new one, imagine if that would happen to any traditional sport. | ||
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1689 Posts
On May 06 2013 07:24 FXOdesRow wrote: Why the hell did we pay 110$ for a year of GSL Code A and Code S games if half of Code A is not even casted it's unacceptable, release the replays if you're not going back on your decision..... thank youuuuuuuuu! | ||
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coolcor
520 Posts
On May 06 2013 08:01 Fionn wrote: GOM is doing Sudden Attack (I think) and World of Tanks now. More e-sports means less time for SC2. Especially since SC2 already has Code S + GSTL. Remember the growth of one esport helps the growth of all esports! Sc2 fans please continue to cheer and support the growth of WoT and your game will benefit in return somehow. | ||
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Haydin
United States1481 Posts
Who'd want to watch Squirtle, EffOrt, Byun, or Creator when we have such incredibly exciting rock-hiding action?! | ||
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On May 06 2013 08:20 coolcor wrote: Remember the growth of one esport helps the growth of all esports! Sc2 fans please continue to cheer and support the growth of WoT and your game will benefit in return somehow. We never get to know how supporting shitty e-sports games help SC2 but it must do since people say so! | ||
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Shardz
United States349 Posts
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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BathTubNZ
New Zealand2556 Posts
On May 06 2013 09:17 Hall0wed wrote: This is really stupid. This better be for this season only, and even then it really sucks. Yeah if they pull this again I'll cancel my subscription. | ||
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Just_a_Moth
Canada1953 Posts
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HornyHydra
Taiwan222 Posts
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
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Clefairy
1570 Posts
On May 06 2013 09:42 xuanzue wrote: I expect the OGN will be more competent next season I think Gom will be streaming challenger league next season too. There's no space in OGN's schedule for something as time consuming as Code A. | ||
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ThomasR
764 Posts
fewer code a broadcasts for no god damn reason...check increased ticket prices...check lack of rebroadcasted matches...check good thing for twitch's loophole | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
they have one sponsor mangosix, and blizzard is giving them a lot of money. now, there is no way of broadcast all the code A yet? | ||
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ThomasR
764 Posts
On May 06 2013 09:50 xuanzue wrote: I really don't get it. they have one sponsor mangosix, and blizzard is giving them a lot of money. now, there is no way of broadcast all the code A yet? greed | ||
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Clefairy
1570 Posts
On May 06 2013 09:35 HornyHydra wrote: Did they say why they're not broadcasting half of the matches in Code A RO. 32? No but it's probably either due to the WCS schedule being sprung on them, or because they're going into other games so they have less time. WCS cuts into their SC2 business model since most things are free now, so they need to get into other games since SC2 isn't successful enough in Korea to sustain itself with less subscriptions from foreign fans. | ||
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catplanetcatplanet
3830 Posts
On May 06 2013 09:49 Fenrax wrote: There is just the time in the OP. Which day will it be? Sorry! The matches will be this Wednesday the 8th. | ||
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ThomasR
764 Posts
On May 06 2013 09:52 Clefairy wrote: No but it's probably either due to the WCS schedule being sprung on them, or because they're going into other games so they have less time. WCS cuts into their SC2 business model since most things are free now, so they need to get into other games since SC2 isn't successful enough in Korea to sustain itself with less subscriptions from foreign fans. blizzard compensated them for it | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On May 06 2013 09:50 xuanzue wrote: I really don't get it. they have one sponsor mangosix, and blizzard is giving them a lot of money. now, there is no way of broadcast all the code A yet? Hey, hey. They technically cut their prize pool monies. -_- On May 06 2013 09:52 Clefairy wrote: No but it's probably either due to the WCS schedule being sprung on them, or because they're going into other games so they have less time. WCS cuts into their SC2 business model since most things are free now, so they need to get into other games since SC2 isn't successful enough in Korea to sustain itself with less subscriptions from foreign fans. They've always had other games and there was a time BW was prime time material but even if SC2 didn't pop up League still would have taken over the OGN networks as it is right now. | ||
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Clefairy
1570 Posts
Haven't Blizzard always been funnelling money to GSL though? I doubt much has changed in terms of how much they're being compensated except that GOM get 2 less seasons of money since they're splitting with OGN. | ||
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AstroPegnuin
293 Posts
I mean under normal circumstances this would be considered whining but considering I paid a $20 fee for the ticket to access the VODS (Which is all the tickets good for now) I feel pretty shafted that I don't even get that now when I can pay much less for other tickets that can at least deliver the bloody VODS without servicing me multiple ads when I'm simply trying to watch one BO3 (Yeah we have to deal with ads unless you use adblock after paying for a ticket?) I hate when people say this but I'm going to say it, GOM I won't be buying a ticket for next season as theres no reason to anymore considering all of Europe can watch your content in HD for free and live, Not willing to fork out money to you guys if you can't even deliver on VODs, I'd rather spend my money elsewhere even if $20 isn't a whole lot | ||
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kubiks
France1328 Posts
Basically : "we don't cast mirror match-up". The only non-mirror matchup not cast is ragnarok vs bunny, which is arguably not that sexy. But I agree with many people, I would like to be able to know what happend in those games. If you can't cast it with the caster or put the replay, can you at least ask to legend to obseve it and release a soundless VoD ? | ||
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1116 Posts
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Charlie.Sheen
662 Posts
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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Balfazar
Australia483 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On May 06 2013 09:50 xuanzue wrote: I really don't get it. they have one sponsor mangosix, and blizzard is giving them a lot of money. now, there is no way of broadcast all the code A yet? What don't you get? They don't have time to cast them all with the WCS schedule. edit - Live anyway, I'm sure they could make an arrangement to have it done out of the event if they wanted. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On May 06 2013 00:58 suicideyear wrote: they should put the remaining matches for free in their VOD section. I second this. GSL is usually one of the most professional organizations in the scene, and they hold themselves to a very very high standard (production guy made an apology thread because a score that was shown during a broadcast was wrong). I hope that they can make it happen. | ||
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Hok
Canada42 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On May 06 2013 00:58 suicideyear wrote: they should put the remaining matches for free in their VOD section. Not for free since this is what -I think- we are paying for. God damn it GOM, I was with you through all the shit, the free GOM HD stream, the rushed 5 seasons last year, the lagging new stream short on resources after the abandonement of the need for GOM Player and spent a good chunk of money for your service -- this is the first time I can't even find a reasonable argument why a VOD or replay put up afterwards would be a problem of any sorts. | ||
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HeavenResign
United States702 Posts
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ElusoryX
Singapore2047 Posts
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ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
Blizz recently dropped a big bombshell on all of these tournament organizers to shoe-horn them into their new WCS system. I can have patience for them if there are some growing pains as they work out the details. I expect future seasons to run smoother. But then I'm an optimist... I'm really liking being able to watch WCS from all 3 regions all week. The only thing that gives me some concern is the whole region-free restrictions where players can play in any region regardless of nationality. | ||
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Cyanocyst
2222 Posts
On May 06 2013 12:36 ElMeanYo wrote: A lot of complaining here, and I can understand most of it. However, as someone who has bought every single season of GSL including GSTL, I'm not unhappy about these problems yet. Blizz recently dropped a big bombshell on all of these tournament organizers to shoe-horn them into their new WCS system. I can have patience for them if there are some growing pains as they work out the details. I expect future seasons to run smoother. But then I'm an optimist... I'm really liking being able to watch WCS from all 3 regions all week. The only thing that gives me some concern is the whole region-free restrictions where players can play in any region regardless of nationality. WCS changed a lot for MLG, and IEM. I can give them a pass. However besides for prize money, how did WCS really screw up the structure of GSL? It didn't, The entire WCS system was derived from the system GSL developed. I really don't see how WCS is to blame for them choosing not to cast Code A. Maybe someone can explain it to me. Code A should have all games cast, just as it was last year and the year before. Btw, i couldn't care less about the EU or AM leagues. I would sacrifice both in an instant to have the all of the code A games cast. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
I would hurt them otherwise | ||
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WorldEater
United Kingdom24 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On May 06 2013 14:17 Cyanocyst wrote: WCS changed a lot for MLG, and IEM. I can give them a pass. However besides for prize money, how did WCS really screw up the structure of GSL? It didn't, The entire WCS system was derived from the system GSL developed. I really don't see how WCS is to blame for them choosing not to cast Code A. Maybe someone can explain it to me. Code A should have all games cast, just as it was last year and the year before. Btw, i couldn't care less about the EU or AM leagues. I would sacrifice both in an instant to have the all of the code A games cast. for example that OGN is now also in on broadcasting the Korean WCS, and that they have to schedule with the other WCS regions. Tons of changes for Gom as well. I am not really optimistic, but it is to be expected that the next seasons will run smoother. The question is if they can reach/surpass GSL level with this kind of setup. But that is subjective experience anyhow. | ||
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On May 06 2013 22:03 Daswollvieh wrote: How Sangho managed to go so far is beyond me. Who needs Code B when you have swag? | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1116 Posts
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