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fabstr
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany10 Posts
April 24 2013 09:02 GMT
#341
i cant really enjoy this show thinking of what a cruel move this is from Artosis. Copying the STOTG format and stealing all its viewers is just a very terrible thing to do. this makes me to reconsider my opinion about Artosis and his work ethic
loft
Profile Joined July 2009
United States344 Posts
April 24 2013 09:03 GMT
#342
On April 24 2013 17:49 Deckkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 17:48 loft wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:14 iNcontroL wrote:

Dude I am so sick of responses like this. I get it every day.

yeah ok there are some nice comments in here.. great: I wasn't speaking to them.

There was enough people taking this opportunity to say "JP IS SHIT WOOT" that I felt the need to comment on it NOT because I think everything should be black or white but because even the 3 bad apples I find fucking suck and on a forum can be commented on.

So tired of the standard "everyone has different opinions" as if that makes it ok to say anything and everything or w/e.



This coming from Team EG's iNcontroL! What a hypocrite.


At the very least say why.
This is the most empty/worst type of post you can make.


Should be obvious, but incontrol's buddy idra is notorious for being a dbag.

User was warned for this post
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
April 24 2013 09:10 GMT
#343
--- Nuked ---
AbstractSC
Profile Joined April 2012
Greece28 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 09:17:26
April 24 2013 09:13 GMT
#344
I don't understand why people post their personal opinions on JP or Artosis. It doesn't matter whether YOU like or enjoy JP or Artosis more. Some people like JP more, some people like Artosis more... The issue here is that everyone of us, saw something weird, and no one really explained the situation yet (JP or Artosis).

And what we saw WAS weird. Some people say that it's no big deal and whatever. Yeah maybe it isn't... But FOR SURE it looked weird and awkward. Otherwise no one would really comment on it. Until JP or Artosis explain what happened or at least express their personal opinions on the subject people will speculate and wonder what really happened there, and of course we will see a lot more comments here on TL on that subject.



"There are five possible operations for any army. If you can fight, fight; if you cannot fight, defend; if you cannot defend, flee; if you cannot flee, surrender; if you cannot surrender, die."-Sima Yi
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 24 2013 09:16 GMT
#345
On April 24 2013 18:03 loft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 17:49 Deckkie wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:48 loft wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:14 iNcontroL wrote:

Dude I am so sick of responses like this. I get it every day.

yeah ok there are some nice comments in here.. great: I wasn't speaking to them.

There was enough people taking this opportunity to say "JP IS SHIT WOOT" that I felt the need to comment on it NOT because I think everything should be black or white but because even the 3 bad apples I find fucking suck and on a forum can be commented on.

So tired of the standard "everyone has different opinions" as if that makes it ok to say anything and everything or w/e.



This coming from Team EG's iNcontroL! What a hypocrite.


At the very least say why.
This is the most empty/worst type of post you can make.


Should be obvious, but incontrol's buddy idra is notorious for being a dbag.
Doesnt seem obvious at al and just seemed like an opportunity to dump on idra and incontrol (which is a very rare and totally not common in SC2 fan posts).

A more valid criticism of incontrol on this thread would be that he comes in decrying "everyone talking down JP" whereas an objective reading of this thread would show that most tl-ers are wondering why JP got canned of his show as the show looks identical, with even the same hosts. Yes, there are 2-3 people saying "artosis > jp" but there are many more who express the sentiment that "I love artosis but this looks like he jacked JP completely"
Meerel
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany713 Posts
April 24 2013 09:17 GMT
#346
will that be another two episode show? lol
SDMF
Alexj
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Ukraine440 Posts
April 24 2013 09:20 GMT
#347
You will not be as cool as JP until you start posting MP3s in the EU morning

Also, I noticed you have someone from Korea, SEA and NA. Definitely someone playing on EU ladder is needed to complete the cast.
More GGs, more skill
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
April 24 2013 09:26 GMT
#348
On April 24 2013 18:03 loft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 17:49 Deckkie wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:48 loft wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:14 iNcontroL wrote:

Dude I am so sick of responses like this. I get it every day.

yeah ok there are some nice comments in here.. great: I wasn't speaking to them.

There was enough people taking this opportunity to say "JP IS SHIT WOOT" that I felt the need to comment on it NOT because I think everything should be black or white but because even the 3 bad apples I find fucking suck and on a forum can be commented on.

So tired of the standard "everyone has different opinions" as if that makes it ok to say anything and everything or w/e.



This coming from Team EG's iNcontroL! What a hypocrite.


At the very least say why.
This is the most empty/worst type of post you can make.


Should be obvious, but incontrol's buddy idra is notorious for being a dbag.


What, Geoff's opinion is invalid because his team mate rages?
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AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
April 24 2013 09:26 GMT
#349
Are the Vods out? :D
loft
Profile Joined July 2009
United States344 Posts
April 24 2013 09:30 GMT
#350
On April 24 2013 18:16 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 18:03 loft wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:49 Deckkie wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:48 loft wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:14 iNcontroL wrote:

Dude I am so sick of responses like this. I get it every day.

yeah ok there are some nice comments in here.. great: I wasn't speaking to them.

There was enough people taking this opportunity to say "JP IS SHIT WOOT" that I felt the need to comment on it NOT because I think everything should be black or white but because even the 3 bad apples I find fucking suck and on a forum can be commented on.

So tired of the standard "everyone has different opinions" as if that makes it ok to say anything and everything or w/e.



This coming from Team EG's iNcontroL! What a hypocrite.


At the very least say why.
This is the most empty/worst type of post you can make.


Should be obvious, but incontrol's buddy idra is notorious for being a dbag.
Doesnt seem obvious at al and just seemed like an opportunity to dump on idra and incontrol (which is a very rare and totally not common in SC2 fan posts).

A more valid criticism of incontrol on this thread would be that he comes in decrying "everyone talking down JP" whereas an objective reading of this thread would show that most tl-ers are wondering why JP got canned of his show as the show looks identical, with even the same hosts. Yes, there are 2-3 people saying "artosis > jp" but there are many more who express the sentiment that "I love artosis but this looks like he jacked JP completely"


Criticizing incontrol would just be opprobrious. He's entitled to make a post defending his friend.
Shade_FR
Profile Joined June 2010
France378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 09:32:26
April 24 2013 09:32 GMT
#351
On April 24 2013 18:26 AxiR wrote:
Are the Vods out? :D
Yes : http://www.twitch.tv/artosis/b/394909247
No .mp3 yet.
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Billd
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada210 Posts
April 24 2013 09:32 GMT
#352
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, whether it be someone who remembers this time period better than I, has a specific source, or maybe Geoff himself can comment on this.

About a year about when no one really knew what was going on with SOTG I believe JP or Geoff came out and said the show was delayed partly due to contracts needing to be signed. (Other issues were everyone was very busy, etc). I suppose, because the show did return, that said contracts were drafted and signed by each pillar at that time.

Although SOTG has maintained a consistent schedule recently, we have seen many different faces on SOTG the past couple months. My guess is that those on the "new" SOTG did not sign a contract.

Now, whether or not the contract that the old pillars signed (assuming they actually did sign one) had a non competition clause is hard to say. Of course, it would be in JP's best interest to have such a clause.

This is where my memory fails me, was it not during this time that Geoff eventually decided to leave the show? This makes me wonder that the contract that was pending signatures did have a no competition clause and in signing it Geoff could not be on ITG and SOTG. *Speculation*

I'm no expert (only in year 2 of my JD), but I find it interesting that JP had contracts drafted, possibly with no comp clauses, for the old SOTG but no contracts for the new SOTG.
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ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
April 24 2013 09:34 GMT
#353
Just watched the whole VOD. Had a lot of fun and will definitely tune in for next one altough I dont really watch these talkshows, maybe except gd show.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
April 24 2013 09:40 GMT
#354
Don't really think I wanna watch this until I know why this new show has been released due to it's damage to SoTG. On first appearances this just makes Artosis look like a douche, but there may well be a reasonable reason behind it all.
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GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
April 24 2013 09:45 GMT
#355
On April 24 2013 18:16 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 18:03 loft wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:49 Deckkie wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:48 loft wrote:
On April 24 2013 17:14 iNcontroL wrote:

Dude I am so sick of responses like this. I get it every day.

yeah ok there are some nice comments in here.. great: I wasn't speaking to them.

There was enough people taking this opportunity to say "JP IS SHIT WOOT" that I felt the need to comment on it NOT because I think everything should be black or white but because even the 3 bad apples I find fucking suck and on a forum can be commented on.

So tired of the standard "everyone has different opinions" as if that makes it ok to say anything and everything or w/e.



This coming from Team EG's iNcontroL! What a hypocrite.


At the very least say why.
This is the most empty/worst type of post you can make.


Should be obvious, but incontrol's buddy idra is notorious for being a dbag.
Doesnt seem obvious at al and just seemed like an opportunity to dump on idra and incontrol (which is a very rare and totally not common in SC2 fan posts).

A more valid criticism of incontrol on this thread would be that he comes in decrying "everyone talking down JP" whereas an objective reading of this thread would show that most tl-ers are wondering why JP got canned of his show as the show looks identical, with even the same hosts. Yes, there are 2-3 people saying "artosis > jp" but there are many more who express the sentiment that "I love artosis but this looks like he jacked JP completely"


omfg don't take it personal, I didn't say that JP should retire or don't get involved in SC2. He has done a lot for the community and that's really awesome but I prefer artosis more than JP, just my opinion. Both should continue to do sc2 shows!
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
April 24 2013 09:47 GMT
#356
Here's to hoping this lasts more than 2 episodes, unlike everything else Artosis has made. Good luck with the show!
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ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
April 24 2013 09:52 GMT
#357
On April 24 2013 18:47 namste wrote:
Here's to hoping this lasts more than 2 episodes, unlike everything else Artosis has made. Good luck with the show!

yeah i wish they continued that GSL show, really liked it in 2010
bisu
FilipSRB
Profile Joined September 2011
Serbia63 Posts
April 24 2013 09:57 GMT
#358
It felt really awkward, once the VOD started and I saw SotG minus JP. Best of luck to both Meta and SotG, I will probably watch both, but cheesh... Additional info would sure be useful.
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
April 24 2013 10:01 GMT
#359
On April 24 2013 18:32 Shade_FR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 18:26 AxiR wrote:
Are the Vods out? :D
Yes : http://www.twitch.tv/artosis/b/394909247
No .mp3 yet.

Thanks!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 24 2013 10:05 GMT
#360
On April 24 2013 17:25 loft wrote:
JP: communications major who hosts a show with popular sc2 personalities and profits with gossip.

Artosis: Hardest sc2 nerd providing the best insight into pro scene. He used to cast low budget BW videos from his garage with the worst green screen and he's still going hard.


Haha I didn't know about the garage thing, is there any videos of that still knocking around? :p
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