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DreamHack and WCS-AM Challenger League overlap?

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33714 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 20:07:30
April 22 2013 13:19 GMT
#1
Update: Ok I've been informed that the prelim date will be moved to some unspecific, non-clashing time




Thanks to Robin for helping me find this!

It seems that it went almost entirely unnoticed at the time, but the April 16th WCS Format announcement states that the WCS-AM Challenger League qualifier is on the 27th of April. That also happens to the final day of DreamHack Stockholm.

Image link of schedule/format: http://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_folder_media/EFAUM8KBXM7Y1365812749410.jpg

There are a handful of players who are going to be playing in both tournaments, including HyuN, Jaedong, JYP, Center, and Zenio.

Due to the time zone difference between EU and NA it's probably technically possible for the players to do both in the same day, though it's not ideal conditions. But I wonder if there will be a reschedule on MLG's part to help accommodate for this clash?

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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 13:23:37
April 22 2013 13:23 GMT
#2
If I were a player in both I'd be hesitant to attempt to participate in both considering how the premier league qualifiers went. If it finishes early enough; however, I'd imagine unless you make it to the semis/finals you will have cpu access and free time.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 13:25:18
April 22 2013 13:23 GMT
#3
There probably should be a reschedule, but since Dreamhack's dates were known well in advance, I'll assume they knowingly scheduled it on top of DH due to a lack of time or whatever and said "deal with it".

Community will most likely be able to force a move if the cries are loud enough.
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 22 2013 13:28 GMT
#4
I don't think it's necessary to reschedule a North American qualifier around an event which doesn't actually feature any North Americans. For the Koreans playing in both, this is just an occupational hazard of going to all of these events.
Wampaibist
Profile Joined July 2010
United States478 Posts
April 22 2013 13:29 GMT
#5
I hate to wonder but do you think they did it on purpose?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 22 2013 13:29 GMT
#6
I think they just wanted to get it done before the Premier division starts, which is on April 29, but I dont see the harm in delaying it for this conflict since it's not like the Challenger Division starts right away as well.
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JacobDaKung
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Sweden132 Posts
April 22 2013 13:32 GMT
#7
Is Hyun eligatible for play ? Wasn't he dq for both GSL and WCS NA.
HandleTaken
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden81 Posts
April 22 2013 13:33 GMT
#8
On April 22 2013 22:29 Wampaibist wrote:
I hate to wonder but do you think they did it on purpose?


The dates for Dreamhack have been known for a long time.
Would be nice to hear from MLG about their motives for causing this scheduling conflict.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 13:34:41
April 22 2013 13:34 GMT
#9
Well it would also affect incontrol who is hosting for dreamhack. I guess he could make it into challenger league potentially. How many spots will there be? 8? 16?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 22 2013 13:35 GMT
#10
It's 16 I believe
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Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 13:44:41
April 22 2013 13:38 GMT
#11
On April 22 2013 22:32 JacobDaKung wrote:
Is Hyun eligatible for play ? Wasn't he dq for both GSL and WCS NA.

He can qualify for Challenger League. But since he already has a flight to Dreamhack and this date was sprung on him (and other players) before they made their region lock decision, he's pretty much forced to sit out an entire season making the road to Premier League even longer. The unfortunate souls who had their attendance at Dreamhack confirmed well in advance can't start earning real points until the final season just because they had to make a blind region choice since Blizzard decided to procrastinate in getting details out there.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
April 22 2013 13:38 GMT
#12
On April 22 2013 22:32 JacobDaKung wrote:
Is Hyun eligatible for play ? Wasn't he dq for both GSL and WCS NA.

he is eligible to attempt to qualify for NA Challenger League based on the season 1 exception.
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 22 2013 13:42 GMT
#13
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cuqtn/why_nasl_has_not_made_an_announcement_yet_and_why/

According to this, tournaments are not allowed to broadcast at the same time as WCS events. Is this true? Can Blizzard step in and cancel Dreamhack?

They most probably wont go that far, but still. Monopoly is a scary thing.
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Jomppa
Profile Joined July 2011
1225 Posts
April 22 2013 13:42 GMT
#14
http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/schedule
Nothing on mlg schedule on 27th.
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
April 22 2013 13:44 GMT
#15
wow another fuckup + Show Spoiler +
didnt see that one coming :/
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SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
April 22 2013 13:46 GMT
#16
On April 22 2013 22:42 DJHelium wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cuqtn/why_nasl_has_not_made_an_announcement_yet_and_why/

According to this, tournaments are not allowed to broadcast at the same time as WCS events. Is this true? Can Blizzard step in and cancel Dreamhack?

They most probably wont go that far, but still. Monopoly is a scary thing.


Haha cancel dreamhack :D
I doubt wcs qualifier count
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 22 2013 13:46 GMT
#17
On April 22 2013 22:42 DJHelium wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cuqtn/why_nasl_has_not_made_an_announcement_yet_and_why/

According to this, tournaments are not allowed to broadcast at the same time as WCS events. Is this true? Can Blizzard step in and cancel Dreamhack?

They most probably wont go that far, but still. Monopoly is a scary thing.


If Blizzard cancels DH because MLG fucked up, knowing when DH was scheduled for months, that would be the biggest disaster of them all.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 22 2013 13:47 GMT
#18
MLG will probably broadcast all the games from replay throughout the week anyways so the broadcast wont conflict with DH
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 22 2013 13:51 GMT
#19
anyone really surprised ?
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howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
April 22 2013 13:53 GMT
#20
On April 22 2013 22:33 HandleTaken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 22:29 Wampaibist wrote:
I hate to wonder but do you think they did it on purpose?


The dates for Dreamhack have been known for a long time.
Would be nice to hear from MLG about their motives for causing this scheduling conflict.


Yeah, it's obviously a conspiracy to fuck DreamHack up. If anything, players are gonna prioritize DH, since they're already there.
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