EPTThey shoul just make the restriction that you have to play in the region you live...
Four Koreans qualify from WCS AM Prelim Day 1 - Page 14
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Akaann
Switzerland82 Posts
They shoul just make the restriction that you have to play in the region you live... | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On April 21 2013 13:41 GrapeApe wrote: Wow, pretty lame. I'd have to agreed with catz before this and really agree with him after. I do not. There are allready alot of NA peeps in the code s (do not forget). WHat i do feel sorry for ar the guys on NA-GM ladder. But then again, ladderpoints does not give anything or show anything. Next to that, NA has a 15 year old playing (xeno), that i really like to watch on stream. But how in the hell can he compete in code s when heromarine (15 i beleive) can not compete in code s EU? WHen is something childlabour in NA? I still hope sage, demuslim macsed and qxc go threw tho.. | ||
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llIH
Norway2143 Posts
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h0munkulus
Austria1481 Posts
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Soda-88
Croatia476 Posts
On April 21 2013 20:34 govie wrote: [But how in the hell can he compete in code s when heromarine (15 i beleive) can not compete in code s EU? WHen is something childlabour in NA? Woah... | ||
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Vesimias
Finland135 Posts
On April 21 2013 20:45 llIH wrote: What happened to IdrA? He is already seeded into the premier league. | ||
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revoN
Japan804 Posts
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govie
9334 Posts
On April 21 2013 21:07 revoN wrote: I wonder why JaeDong didn't get an invite when a player like NesTea did. But I guess the entire invite system is broken. I'd rather they all qualified the hard (or easy for most Koreans) way. Because he has no results to back a seed up! (i actually agree with this....amagad) | ||
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Pedrombom
Portugal4 Posts
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On April 21 2013 21:14 Pedrombom wrote: If you want NA players only to play in their qualifiers, the prize pool would have to be massively reduced. Compared to the Korean qualifiers, NA's is like the special olympics. 100k prize pool to low tier players is a slap in the face to Koreans when they have to compete against high tier players. Îf this qualifier was NA only with low caliber players and the prize pool was something like 5-10k, there would be no problem. My opinion exactly. But even as it is, it is already a slap in the face of every GSL participant that these two tournaments are weighed the same. There are at least 30 GSL players who are all better than the third best player in WCS NA (only HerO and Polt can be considered Code S level) and yet the price pool is the same. It is like giving the same money and reputation to the NBA and the German basketball League. | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
On April 21 2013 21:14 Pedrombom wrote: If you want NA players only to play in their qualifiers, the prize pool would have to be massively reduced. Compared to the Korean qualifiers, NA's is like the special olympics. 100k prize pool to low tier players is a slap in the face to Koreans when they have to compete against high tier players. Îf this qualifier was NA only with low caliber players and the prize pool was something like 5-10k, there would be no problem. Uh this was a pretty offensive thing to say, both for the Special Olympics and to NA pros. And anyways, prizes are commensurate with the fans, not the skill of the players. If Korea WCS has 5x as many viewers as NA WCS, then yes, the winner of Korea WCS should get 5x the money. I will say that WCS is trying to walk the fine line between cultivating a foreign audience and providing the highest quality of games. Some fans are resisting this urge to cheer for any Korean, but I think if NA fans can get behind rooting for players like Polt or Nestea as their representative, this can work to make the regions more competitive. Empirically, the regions are NOT competitive if we take a hard line on residency. Korea will win, like they won WCS last year and win WCG every year. I think it would help if these players made a stronger effort to say they want to be the NA representative and not just for money or because the competition is easier. This isn't unprecedented in sports. Lionel Messi is the face of both Argentine soccer and FC Barcelona. Pau Gasol is the go-to guy for Spanish basketball and the Los Angeles Lakers. Maria Sharapova represented Russia in the Olympics but has lived in the United States for 3/4 of her life (in fairness, many US tennis fans are NOT happy with Sharapova). | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On April 21 2013 21:14 Pedrombom wrote: If you want NA players only to play in their qualifiers, the prize pool would have to be massively reduced. Compared to the Korean qualifiers, NA's is like the special olympics. 100k prize pool to low tier players is a slap in the face to Koreans when they have to compete against high tier players. Îf this qualifier was NA only with low caliber players and the prize pool was something like 5-10k, there would be no problem. Totally disagree, they should region lock it so that people contributing to each scene are in the pool. If Korean players, such as Code A or Code B feel their chances are better in NA, they should start contributing to the NA scene, and by that raising the competition and skill level of the whole of NA. Just swooping into each scene and taking all the money just fucks up the scenes that are already behind. If you want NA and EU to compete in any realistic manner, at some point a rope has to be thrown and the scenes given chance to develop. | ||
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Ireniicas
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On April 21 2013 21:45 Zarahtra wrote: Totally disagree, they should region lock it so that people contributing to each scene are in the pool. If Korean players, such as Code A or Code B feel their chances are better in NA, they should start contributing to the NA scene, and by that raising the competition and skill level of the whole of NA. Just swooping into each scene and taking all the money just fucks up the scenes that are already behind. If you want NA and EU to compete in any realistic manner, at some point a rope has to be thrown and the scenes given chance to develop. Could not agree more | ||
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JazVM
Germany1196 Posts
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Prog455
Denmark970 Posts
On April 21 2013 15:19 JJH777 wrote: MLG was all Korean from the top 8 on and had more viewers than WCS EU. Let's see how WCS KR compares in viewers (at least for the numbers we get to see) to WCS EU. Right now WCS KR (GSL Code S) have about 23-28k viewers everything i check. I believe WCS EU Premier qualifiers had the same amount of viewers if you counted all Streams. WCS NA Premier qualifiers had about same amount of viewers as Code S. | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On April 21 2013 21:45 Zarahtra wrote: Totally disagree, they should region lock it so that people contributing to each scene are in the pool. If Korean players, such as Code A or Code B feel their chances are better in NA, they should start contributing to the NA scene, and by that raising the competition and skill level of the whole of NA. Just swooping into each scene and taking all the money just fucks up the scenes that are already behind. If you want NA and EU to compete in any realistic manner, at some point a rope has to be thrown and the scenes given chance to develop. So should the NBA divide their money and fame evenly between Europe, USA and Asia? Should NBA players go to Korea and raise the Basketball competition level there so that the scene there can develop? | ||
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winthrop
Hong Kong956 Posts
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govie
9334 Posts
On April 21 2013 21:58 Fenrax wrote: So should the NBA divide their money and fame evenly between Europe, USA and Asia? Should NBA players go to Korea and raise the Basketball competition level there so that the scene there can develop? Or better even. Should the NBA devote most of there resources to the western conference just because they win more championships? | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On April 21 2013 21:58 Fenrax wrote: So should the NBA divide their money and fame evenly between Europe, USA and Asia? Should NBA players go to Korea and raise the Basketball competition level there so that the scene there can develop? That depends on their goals. I believe NBA doesn't in any way have the same goals as Blizzard. I'm guessing the incentive with the WCS was to push SC2 back into relevance in esports. That requires NA/EU, which requires familiar faces, storylines etc etc. You don't get those by just having korean#213 swooping in, killing everything and taking the price pool. As an example, personally I thought(apart from the abyssmal production) the early MLGs were byfar more fun that 2012 ones, with my favourite probably when Jinro won. | ||
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