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Four Koreans qualify from WCS AM Prelim Day 1 - Page 13

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MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
April 21 2013 11:02 GMT
#241
Feels like that Hots trailer all over again haha
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 21 2013 11:05 GMT
#242
Wish axiom would have went for the korean ones, as their homebase is there. Hope I don't have to worry they will move. But so nice that Crank made it.
But sad that no NA player made it so far.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 11:07:38
April 21 2013 11:06 GMT
#243
On April 21 2013 20:00 Wombat_NI wrote:
Why is all the anger/discussion towards Kr/foreigners and so little discussion of the huge amount of arbitrary invites that don't stand up?

No issues with Polt/Violet or US resident players getting invites, if anything the US players list seems weirder. Also not kicking a pretty much confirmed map hacker out was poor


Because they are still much much better than NASL season 1. :>
(i.e. we're used to much worse)
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
April 21 2013 11:14 GMT
#244
Why are koreans even allowed to play on NA server WCS when they aren't from NA server? Kind of confusing...seems like they are just playing on NA server WCS to qualify easily.. >_<
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
h0munkulus
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1481 Posts
April 21 2013 11:16 GMT
#245
I think the much more interesting discussion will be how many Koreans will start in NA Premiere division Season 2?

Let's not forget that some of the strongest Koreans (Teaja, MC, ...), will only participate in the Challenger qualifier and Challenger division in Season 1, so will all the Koreans that will not make it in the premiere qualifier.

So in Season 2 premiere division we will have the Top 8 of the premiere division season 1 (would not be the biggest surprise to be all koreans), as well as 24 players that qualifiy through the challenge division season 1 (could quite possibly have 20+ koreans).

So it would be possible that premiere divison Season 2 might have something like 25+ koreans, maybe even all koreans...
RoyW
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Ireland270 Posts
April 21 2013 11:16 GMT
#246
Can we stop the whining in this thread?
Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
April 21 2013 11:20 GMT
#247
On April 21 2013 20:16 RoyW wrote:
Can we stop the whining in this thread?

More GG, more skill.
- WhiteRa
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 21 2013 11:21 GMT
#248
I wonder what the endgame is for these players when the entire WCS America is played offline. Will they all move to America or will they just drop out and stay in Korea?
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
April 21 2013 11:25 GMT
#249
On April 21 2013 20:21 Branman wrote:
I wonder what the endgame is for these players when the entire WCS America is played offline. Will they all move to America or will they just drop out and stay in Korea?


Offline matchs like Premier league #2 group stage are just 4-5 days in MLG studios. So they just need to drop out to NYC to play offline matches in a week.
指原莉乃 應援
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 11:27:37
April 21 2013 11:26 GMT
#250
On April 21 2013 20:21 Branman wrote:
I wonder what the endgame is for these players when the entire WCS America is played offline. Will they all move to America or will they just drop out and stay in Korea?


Nevermind i read you wrong.

Remmy he means when WCS NA is finally only offline. That may happen next year... or who knows when.
McDrizzle
Profile Joined September 2011
United States131 Posts
April 21 2013 11:27 GMT
#251
On April 21 2013 20:21 Branman wrote:
I wonder what the endgame is for these players when the entire WCS America is played offline. Will they all move to America or will they just drop out and stay in Korea?


Probably move to America if there team is rich enough. Probably move back to Korea if they made it through the qualifiers so they dont turn into NA baddies.
wait what
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
April 21 2013 11:28 GMT
#252
My question is how did WCS EU Qualifiers not have a single Korean winner?
Is is because EU foreigners is that much better than NA foreigners?

Or is it because no KR play in EU qualifiers
And if that is the case, then why no KR choose to play in EU?
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 21 2013 11:28 GMT
#253
On April 21 2013 20:25 [OGN]Remmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 20:21 Branman wrote:
I wonder what the endgame is for these players when the entire WCS America is played offline. Will they all move to America or will they just drop out and stay in Korea?


Offline matchs like Premier league #2 group stage are just 4-5 days in MLG studios. So they just need to drop out to NYC to play offline matches in a week.


I was referring to a future WCS when group stage 1 is played offline. It's going to become very cost ineffective to fly players from Korea to America 3-4 times a season.
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
April 21 2013 11:29 GMT
#254
On April 21 2013 13:38 Gamegene wrote:
cmon demuslim you gotta represent the United States for WCS!


You know he is English, right?.. I don't get why so many Americans have a problem with Koreans coming over and winning their tournaments/taking spots in their tournaments/teams but not Europeans.
Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
April 21 2013 11:29 GMT
#255
On April 21 2013 20:28 Hunterai wrote:
My question is how did WCS EU Qualifiers not have a single Korean winner?
Is is because EU foreigners is that much better than NA foreigners?

Or is it because no KR play in EU qualifiers
And if that is the case, then why no KR choose to play in EU?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Europe/Qualifier/Premier
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
April 21 2013 11:30 GMT
#256
On April 21 2013 20:28 Hunterai wrote:
My question is how did WCS EU Qualifiers not have a single Korean winner?
Is is because EU foreigners is that much better than NA foreigners?

Or is it because no KR play in EU qualifiers
And if that is the case, then why no KR choose to play in EU?


Less koreans, i would also argue worst in general, and the most important thing. lag between EU-Korea is not even close to NA-Korea.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25460 Posts
April 21 2013 11:31 GMT
#257
On April 21 2013 20:29 paddyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 13:38 Gamegene wrote:
cmon demuslim you gotta represent the United States for WCS!


You know he is English, right?.. I don't get why so many Americans have a problem with Koreans coming over and winning their tournaments/taking spots in their tournaments/teams but not Europeans.

Most Americans don't have an issue with NA residents taking those spots. I don't hear people bitching about Polt or Violet. The whole 'build a scene' argument has some validity, if the players in question actually live in that region and integrate into it properly.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 21 2013 11:31 GMT
#258
On April 21 2013 20:28 Hunterai wrote:
My question is how did WCS EU Qualifiers not have a single Korean winner?
Is is because EU foreigners is that much better than NA foreigners?

Or is it because no KR play in EU qualifiers
And if that is the case, then why no KR choose to play in EU?

1. KR to EU lag is much bigger than KR to NA.
2. EU has more strong players than NA.
3. Some of the KR players are on teams based in NA, so it will be easier for them to move there.

Biggest factor is imho 1.
Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 11:34:42
April 21 2013 11:33 GMT
#259
Come on US-Boys i'm rooting for you today!! That's a rare thing for me to do so better make use of it! :D

Oh i forgot the Canadians, go Canada!!
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 21 2013 11:34 GMT
#260
On April 21 2013 20:29 paddyz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 13:38 Gamegene wrote:
cmon demuslim you gotta represent the United States for WCS!


You know he is English, right?.. I don't get why so many Americans have a problem with Koreans coming over and winning their tournaments/taking spots in their tournaments/teams but not Europeans.


Demuslim has lived in America for 1.5 years, played on NA ladder, and has applied for the necessary visas to emigrate to the U.S. That's the opposite of every Korean with the exception of Polt. No one would have a problem if the Koreans in question moved to NA and practiced on the NA ladder. Now we have a situation where no matter how hard youlay on your own ladder, you can't qualify to play in your own region.
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