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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 16:35:27
April 18 2013 10:28 GMT
#1
Edit: I guess this belongs in the OP. FAQ.

So last night the April 17 rating list was finalized (link), and for the first time since May 2012, Zerg is not leading.

History: http://aligulac.com/periods/

Actually with Terran at +5% and Protoss at −9% we see that Zerg must be at +4%, so it's by a hair.

Here's the current top 10:
  1. Life 1921
  2. Polt 1837
  3. Bomber 1818
  4. ForGG 1816
  5. PartinG 1798
  6. HyuN 1768
  7. YoDa 1751
  8. viOLet 1738
  9. DongRaeGu 1736
  10. Leenock 1735
Life celebrates his seventh period in the number 1 spot, with a bigger rating gap than ever. Parting is still the only one in the top ten defending the Protoss pride. His closest compadres are Yonghwa at 1681 and Rain at 1675.

But if Terran has taken over in the Korean world, among the foreigners, it's still all Zerg.
  1. LucifroN 1710
  2. Sen 1677
  3. VortiX 1669
  4. Stephano 1638
  5. Scarlett 1625
  6. Nerchio 1617
  7. Snute 1604
  8. Happy 1558
  9. Welmu 1555
  10. Bunny 1526
Special mention must go to Feast, who rakes in a massive 171 points these two weeks, coming off of the Francophone Championship, ATC and two WTC EU qualifiers.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
cloneThorN
Profile Joined September 2012
Denmark302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 10:39:51
April 18 2013 10:33 GMT
#2
I still don't know what those points mean, or how they are even calculated.

Somebody who can explain?

EDIT never mind, i read the math paper.
I can do anything i want, until otherwise is proven.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
April 18 2013 10:35 GMT
#3
I don't get it either, but it looks fancy
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 10:35:55
April 18 2013 10:35 GMT
#4
Edit: Nevermind, idk what the ratings are either.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 10:37:05
April 18 2013 10:35 GMT
#5
On April 18 2013 19:33 cloneThorN wrote:
I still don't know what those points mean, or how they are even calculated.

Somebody who can explain?

You can read that on the website.
http://aligulac.com/faq/
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
April 18 2013 10:38 GMT
#6
On April 18 2013 19:33 cloneThorN wrote:
I still don't know what those points mean, or how they are even calculated.

Somebody who can explain?


http://aligulac.com/faq/

The answers were just a few clicks away.
Callynn
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands917 Posts
April 18 2013 10:48 GMT
#7
Funny how the top 1 foreigner has less points than the lowest korean.
I don't understand the math model, but I don't try to understand it either

Looks like it's reflecting skill? Can someone explain how it's calculated in plain english?
Comparing BW with SCII is like comparing a beautiful three-master sailing ship with a modern battlecruiser. Both are beautiful in their own way, both perform the same task, but they are worlds apart in how they are built and how they are steered.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
April 18 2013 10:53 GMT
#8
On April 18 2013 19:48 Callynn wrote:
Funny how the top 1 foreigner has less points than the lowest korean.
I don't understand the math model, but I don't try to understand it either

Looks like it's reflecting skill? Can someone explain how it's calculated in plain english?
it's a statistical analysis of past games. I think it correlates with skill, but it's not a one on one relation.

I don't have much knowledge of the system, but i think this at least should be true.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 10:59:15
April 18 2013 10:58 GMT
#9
We have a FAQ for exactly these kinds of questions.

http://aligulac.com/faq/

There is an explanation in plain English as well as in unplain English. I can answer further if there are more specific questions.

In short, it's a rating system. Like Elo, but different.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 11:14:38
April 18 2013 11:14 GMT
#10
It's not a bad rating system and the predictions are most of the times pretty accurate but it certainly has flaws when you see ForGG as the 4th best Korean right now.
All I do is Stim.
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
April 18 2013 11:16 GMT
#11
Strange korean top 10.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
April 18 2013 11:20 GMT
#12
Errr... where is protoss?
Come on MC, flying, sOs, Rain, where are you?
Just practice harder ffs....
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
April 18 2013 11:33 GMT
#13
Terran king again!
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9055 Posts
April 18 2013 11:54 GMT
#14
polt should count as foreigner.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 18 2013 12:00 GMT
#15
Still, poor protoss. Tournament results are not looking good either.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 12:07:14
April 18 2013 12:07 GMT
#16
fOrGG .. O_o

That's a pretty big score inflation from smacking down some fairly mediocre French players. (and I'm being generous here)
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
ScrubS
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands436 Posts
April 18 2013 12:20 GMT
#17
The math seems pretty solid behind it. For those people wondering why the top 10 is rather strange, the website is based on a dataset of thousands of replays. Unfortuantely pro's dont release their replays (except streamers such as ForGG) and are therefore not rated correctly
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
April 18 2013 12:23 GMT
#18
On April 18 2013 21:20 ScrubS wrote:
The math seems pretty solid behind it. For those people wondering why the top 10 is rather strange, the website is based on a dataset of thousands of replays. Unfortuantely pro's dont release their replays (except streamers such as ForGG) and are therefore not rated correctly

Not so much replays, just official matches I would think.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 12:24:02
April 18 2013 12:23 GMT
#19
I like how I have no idea of the current skill level of some of the names of that list.
Like, Lucifron, Sen and forGG what? :D

Edit: And no Kespa players
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
April 18 2013 12:28 GMT
#20
On April 18 2013 21:23 ZenithM wrote:
I like how I have no idea of the current skill level of some of the names of that list.
Like, Lucifron, Sen and forGG what? :D

Edit: And no Kespa players

Haha I was just about to post the exact same thing. This list is pretty surprising.
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