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AllHailTheDead
Profile Joined July 2011
United States418 Posts
April 09 2013 05:42 GMT
#301
wow awesome news so glad that Blizz stepped in and helped with this great program and people keeping their jobs


they are very lucky and now I will be more inclined to purchase blizz products....considering what happened with d3 I kind of have been on the iffy side but now I'll show my support
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
April 09 2013 06:09 GMT
#302
Very good move. Maybe Blizzcon won't suck anymore.
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Miss_Foxy
Profile Joined March 2012
Singapore109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 06:25:56
April 09 2013 06:23 GMT
#303
Excellent move by Blizzard.

It's really awesome to see Starcraft 2 growing exponentially and Blizzard making significant improvements over the past few weeks, go Blizzard!
I love Blizzard's stuff and Korea ~ <3
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 09 2013 06:32 GMT
#304
On April 09 2013 14:15 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 10:12 Cababel wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:53 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:49 ThomasjServo wrote:
This will be interesting to see how Blizzard manages content from other companies, most notably League but Shoot mania as well.


I don't think they will be doing any content that isn't a blizzard game, maybe another activision game but highly unlikely league/shootmania.

They will probably pick up COD but I doubt they will drop league because of how profitable it is. they could use the LOL stream to try and direct people to the SC stream and also LOL gets lots of viewers so if they make somthing worth watching, then it will make money. Just getting rid of the LOL stream causes blizzard to lose potential money and also possible viewers that they can re direct to SC. The only reason I can see to cut league would be if riot makes unreasonable demands for the rights to broadcast their game.


They won't do LoL because it's a competitor and they're not running tournaments anymore besides WCS. I think the headline blizzard buys IPL is largely semantics. I don't believe they bought "IPL" because since they won't be using any of the IPL branding, IPL was dead and worthless.

I would guess blizzard paid $0 for "IPL" but it looks sexy as a headline to say they bought IPL. What they did do is hire 23 jobless people and bought the IPL equipment they wanted to bring along. I could be totally wrong on that, but I don't see how the IPL brand would have any monetary value if they didn't plan on using any the branding which would make it worth something.

what is the difference between "Blizzard hired ex-IPL employees and their infrastructure and has them do the same job" and "Blizzard bought IPL...to get access to its emplyoees and infrastructure to do the same job" ? The only people who would care would be IGN. To the fans this is great news because (a) IPL puts on strong tournaments and (b) Blizzard seems to be strongly supporting the NA scene instead of just kind of saying "O well, good luck MLG" and moving onto Warcraft 4 hype.
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 06:47:21
April 09 2013 06:41 GMT
#305
What a big surprise... lol

This just means that MLG will get additional support from Blizzard to run WCS as a whole rather than have the ex-IPLers run a single tournament.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 09 2013 06:44 GMT
#306
Haha, congrats to Catspajamas, he looked so sad after last cast
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
April 09 2013 07:04 GMT
#307
On April 09 2013 14:35 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 14:26 felisconcolori wrote:
On April 09 2013 14:15 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 09 2013 10:12 Cababel wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:53 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:49 ThomasjServo wrote:
This will be interesting to see how Blizzard manages content from other companies, most notably League but Shoot mania as well.


I don't think they will be doing any content that isn't a blizzard game, maybe another activision game but highly unlikely league/shootmania.

They will probably pick up COD but I doubt they will drop league because of how profitable it is. they could use the LOL stream to try and direct people to the SC stream and also LOL gets lots of viewers so if they make somthing worth watching, then it will make money. Just getting rid of the LOL stream causes blizzard to lose potential money and also possible viewers that they can re direct to SC. The only reason I can see to cut league would be if riot makes unreasonable demands for the rights to broadcast their game.


They won't do LoL because it's a competitor and they're not running tournaments anymore besides WCS. I think the headline blizzard buys IPL is largely semantics. I don't believe they bought "IPL" because since they won't be using any of the IPL branding, IPL was dead and worthless.

I would guess blizzard paid $0 for "IPL" but it looks sexy as a headline to say they bought IPL. What they did do is hire 23 jobless people and bought the IPL equipment they wanted to bring along. I could be totally wrong on that, but I don't see how the IPL brand would have any monetary value if they didn't plan on using any the branding which would make it worth something.


You missed the part where it said Blizzard picked up all of IPL's personnel and assets. IPL still has a lot of equipment and the IP (including past broadcasts) are still worth money. The name itself is still worth money, because of the trademarks, reputation, and intangibles. A straight hire wouldn't have brought all of the things they can pick up in a sale. Plus, yeah, they get to be Good Guy Blizzard saving some cat's pajamas from an uncaring IGN.


I dunno. I just see them as buying all the equipment as just straight equipment sales, otherwise IGN would try to send those to auction or something to get money for it. Instead they just sold it to blizzard. What trademarks, reputation are they buying? The IPL name is dead. Blizzard won't be using the name IPL in anything they do. If they planned to use the IPL brand somehow, then yeah I could see it having value.

Basically, I just see it as 23 employees got laid off. 23 employees sent their resumes to blizzard. Blizzard hired 23 people. That's part 1. Part 2 is IGN had equipment to sell. IGN sold this equipment to blizzard. Therefore, I see blizzard spent money on parts 1 and 2. Why would they spend additional money on part 3, which would be the value of the IPL brandname itself if they don't plan on using any of that branding which gave it value? Seems like it would be a waste of money. Again, I'm no expert on this stuff though. Just thinking about it logically, so I could be totally wrong.


Thinking about things logically doesn't work for Intellectual Property lawyer types. The name "IPL", the "IPL" logo, etc, all have value simply as a known brand. (Similar to why "Twinkies" is a valuable name, whether or not anyone actually makes them.) ZD wanted IGN to focus on content and news creation, so IGN had to sell IPL. Selling it as a unit to include all the broadcasts (and they can still make money rebroadcasting or selling rights for old broadcasts, etc) is easier all around for both IGN and Blizz. (Not sure if employment contracts contain any "yellow dog" clauses, despite them being basically unenforceable in California. Plus, if you buy the business entire, you aren't renegotiating salaries with each employee.

Umm. TL;dr is it's a legal and corporate operations kindof thing, it's just easier to buy the entire company and then drop people than it is to let the company dissolve and pick up the pieces.
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Overtime
Profile Joined March 2013
51 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 07:37:43
April 09 2013 07:35 GMT
#308
SC2 is doing great e-sports wise and for the rest of the titles I really can't see any need for something like this. I think Blizzard would never do such a big step without some big reasons like preparing for the dota clone, the only possible title with real e-sports value besides sc2.
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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
April 09 2013 07:40 GMT
#309
--- Nuked ---
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
April 09 2013 07:42 GMT
#310
Blizzard taking control
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1351 Posts
April 09 2013 07:42 GMT
#311
Hell Yeah!
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 08:11:42
April 09 2013 08:11 GMT
#312
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"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France898 Posts
April 09 2013 08:43 GMT
#313
Oh yea! IPL couldnt die that easily! With all the effort ppl have put into it. Hope them the best for the future!
Stephano and Clem enjoyer
NeonGenesis
Profile Joined September 2005
Norway260 Posts
April 09 2013 09:24 GMT
#314
Very excited to see what they're gonna do with it BlizzTV? Hopefully they'll stay classy and not go too mainstream. Would hate for primary content to turn into StarJeweled, Aiur Chef or other stuff like that.
It's all good. I just want rainbows, unicorns and machine guns. -Sundance DiGiovanni
BoYoB
Profile Joined March 2011
France83 Posts
April 09 2013 12:34 GMT
#315
Now, all they have to do to complete "operation save esports" is to buy Stephano for the next 3 years.
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
April 09 2013 12:39 GMT
#316
gooooooood!
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
April 09 2013 12:50 GMT
#317
Wow, this is huge. Glad to see blizzard starting to invest in esports.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 09 2013 13:17 GMT
#318
Any complaints that Blizzard doesn't do enough or doesn't care about SC2 esports have now been disproven without a doubt lol.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 09 2013 14:33 GMT
#319
On April 09 2013 16:04 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 14:35 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 09 2013 14:26 felisconcolori wrote:
On April 09 2013 14:15 Canucklehead wrote:
On April 09 2013 10:12 Cababel wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:53 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:49 ThomasjServo wrote:
This will be interesting to see how Blizzard manages content from other companies, most notably League but Shoot mania as well.


I don't think they will be doing any content that isn't a blizzard game, maybe another activision game but highly unlikely league/shootmania.

They will probably pick up COD but I doubt they will drop league because of how profitable it is. they could use the LOL stream to try and direct people to the SC stream and also LOL gets lots of viewers so if they make somthing worth watching, then it will make money. Just getting rid of the LOL stream causes blizzard to lose potential money and also possible viewers that they can re direct to SC. The only reason I can see to cut league would be if riot makes unreasonable demands for the rights to broadcast their game.


They won't do LoL because it's a competitor and they're not running tournaments anymore besides WCS. I think the headline blizzard buys IPL is largely semantics. I don't believe they bought "IPL" because since they won't be using any of the IPL branding, IPL was dead and worthless.

I would guess blizzard paid $0 for "IPL" but it looks sexy as a headline to say they bought IPL. What they did do is hire 23 jobless people and bought the IPL equipment they wanted to bring along. I could be totally wrong on that, but I don't see how the IPL brand would have any monetary value if they didn't plan on using any the branding which would make it worth something.


You missed the part where it said Blizzard picked up all of IPL's personnel and assets. IPL still has a lot of equipment and the IP (including past broadcasts) are still worth money. The name itself is still worth money, because of the trademarks, reputation, and intangibles. A straight hire wouldn't have brought all of the things they can pick up in a sale. Plus, yeah, they get to be Good Guy Blizzard saving some cat's pajamas from an uncaring IGN.


I dunno. I just see them as buying all the equipment as just straight equipment sales, otherwise IGN would try to send those to auction or something to get money for it. Instead they just sold it to blizzard. What trademarks, reputation are they buying? The IPL name is dead. Blizzard won't be using the name IPL in anything they do. If they planned to use the IPL brand somehow, then yeah I could see it having value.

Basically, I just see it as 23 employees got laid off. 23 employees sent their resumes to blizzard. Blizzard hired 23 people. That's part 1. Part 2 is IGN had equipment to sell. IGN sold this equipment to blizzard. Therefore, I see blizzard spent money on parts 1 and 2. Why would they spend additional money on part 3, which would be the value of the IPL brandname itself if they don't plan on using any of that branding which gave it value? Seems like it would be a waste of money. Again, I'm no expert on this stuff though. Just thinking about it logically, so I could be totally wrong.


Thinking about things logically doesn't work for Intellectual Property lawyer types. The name "IPL", the "IPL" logo, etc, all have value simply as a known brand. (Similar to why "Twinkies" is a valuable name, whether or not anyone actually makes them.) ZD wanted IGN to focus on content and news creation, so IGN had to sell IPL. Selling it as a unit to include all the broadcasts (and they can still make money rebroadcasting or selling rights for old broadcasts, etc) is easier all around for both IGN and Blizz. (Not sure if employment contracts contain any "yellow dog" clauses, despite them being basically unenforceable in California. Plus, if you buy the business entire, you aren't renegotiating salaries with each employee.

Umm. TL;dr is it's a legal and corporate operations kindof thing, it's just easier to buy the entire company and then drop people than it is to let the company dissolve and pick up the pieces.


This is 100% correct. It is far easier to buy everything as a whole and then discard what is not needed. It is simpler on both sides, since IGN gets to unload everything in one transaction and Blizzard can just cherry pick what they need. Selling everything piece by piece and may not yield enough money to make it worth it. Remember that when you sell something, you need to devote time to selling it and assuring you are getting a good value. This is compounded by the number of sales you are attempting.

In short, it is faster and requires less manpower to just preform a single sale. Also IPL worth more whole, rather than each piece being sold separately. The equipment is only good when people to us it.
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Sumadin
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark588 Posts
April 09 2013 14:40 GMT
#320
On April 09 2013 17:43 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Oh yea! IPL couldnt die that easily! With all the effort ppl have put into it. Hope them the best for the future!



Well it IS dead. Blizzard is just salvaging to boost its own tournements. That said it is about as ideal a situration as we could have hoped for.
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