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EG releases Ho Joon “PuMa” Lee - Page 12

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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 15 2013 08:09 GMT
#221
Legitimately did not see that coming, wow.
GL to PuMa, hope he finds a new team.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
March 15 2013 08:12 GMT
#222
I hope Puma finds a nice team and makes a strong comeback.

I also hope JYP stays because I love his sexy voice.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
bretfart
Profile Joined July 2012
114 Posts
March 15 2013 08:12 GMT
#223
Releaseing Puma, but still paying IdrA. Where's the sense in that...
mengsk83
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany519 Posts
March 15 2013 08:13 GMT
#224
Honest words that are honestly appreciated.

GL to Puma and EG.
Addicted2Dreaming
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada116 Posts
March 15 2013 08:13 GMT
#225
im glad tbh. was getting pretty tired of puma's lackluster results. perhaps now he can re-climb the rungs and start actually getting results again...
favs = leenock, gumiho, sC, life, sniper, jjakji, mvp, tear, innovation, polt, mc, dream
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
March 15 2013 08:13 GMT
#226
Good Luck Puma!
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 08:17:35
March 15 2013 08:14 GMT
#227
We really need to get a mod to post a note on top. Note should say to read the entire post. Puma was not simply kicked because he had bad results. People still post this and they're given the same response every time. And that we have no idea how much anyone gets paid.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
March 15 2013 08:14 GMT
#228
That's hilarious, they finally cut a player out of their huge roster but they choose one of their Koreans that have potential to improve and not one of their random foreigners that don't do anything like Machine.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
KoRStarvid
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden767 Posts
March 15 2013 08:14 GMT
#229
Although it's sad that he has to find a new team now, EG clearly wasn't the right place for him anymore, so this decision makes sense. Puma wasn't a strong personality like Incontrol or Idra (haters can hate all they want, but if they take a look at Idra's fanclub thread then maybe they'll understand why he's worth every cent EG pay him), and if you no longer can deliver results, then there's no reason for EG to keep him. EG might seem cruel compared to other teams, but they're in fact just keeping it professional and treating esports as a proper business. Many teams could learn from them.
Kitetsu
Profile Joined October 2010
73 Posts
March 15 2013 08:15 GMT
#230
On March 15 2013 16:49 xsnac wrote:
i dont like this becose :

idra is slumping yet i dont think his contract gets lower .
when a player is slumping you help him not force him ... for idra you get a sport psihologist . for puma you lower his income rly ?? i start hating eg now


Romania strikes again.
If you're lonely, you can talk to me.
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
March 15 2013 08:15 GMT
#231
Hmmm, terrible spl record. Probably a good move, especially if he was that well paid.
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
March 15 2013 08:17 GMT
#232
On March 15 2013 16:56 Inori wrote:
What's with all the Huk hate? Is this reddit or something?
Huk is one of the most succesful and consistent foreigners, not to mention a good personality which sells.


lol, consistent? Hell no. Also I know just as many people that hate HuK as ones that like him.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
March 15 2013 08:17 GMT
#233
On March 15 2013 17:00 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 16:57 blackone wrote:
On March 15 2013 16:47 Sakray wrote:
And for all the machine/idra/incontrol haters, if I follow your logic, EG has to release their entire sc2 team. Haters gonna hate anyway.


That's not our logic, it's what they want us to believe is their logic. I don't hate idra, machine or incontrol. But PuMa has had better results in a month than these three had over their entire SC2 career. EG wants entertainers, not players.


Yep. A lot of teams do. Why do you think casters even get sponsorships? Because they're about to win WCG in their spare time?

No, and a lawyer won't win WCG either. I judge players (not casters) based on their playing, and in the statement in the OP, EG pretends they do to. Which they clearly don't.
KoRStarvid
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden767 Posts
March 15 2013 08:18 GMT
#234
On March 15 2013 17:14 IcedBacon wrote:
That's hilarious, they finally cut a player out of their huge roster but they choose one of their Koreans that have potential to improve and not one of their random foreigners that don't do anything like Machine.

Machine was one of the original members of EGs starcraft division, and he seems to have a very positive effect on team morale, like Incontrol.
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
March 15 2013 08:20 GMT
#235
I'm glad to see EG showing that they are actually able to part with players who don't show any results.
CloudMage
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada221 Posts
March 15 2013 08:23 GMT
#236
aw man thats sad but makes sense, gotta boost the roster for proleauge, gl Puma hope you find a great new team also I bet he will win lots now that EG curse has been lifted
HuK <3 WhiteRa <3 Grubby <3 TLO <3 Day[9] <3
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 08:26:56
March 15 2013 08:23 GMT
#237
On March 15 2013 17:17 blackone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 17:00 bittman wrote:
On March 15 2013 16:57 blackone wrote:
On March 15 2013 16:47 Sakray wrote:
And for all the machine/idra/incontrol haters, if I follow your logic, EG has to release their entire sc2 team. Haters gonna hate anyway.


That's not our logic, it's what they want us to believe is their logic. I don't hate idra, machine or incontrol. But PuMa has had better results in a month than these three had over their entire SC2 career. EG wants entertainers, not players.


Yep. A lot of teams do. Why do you think casters even get sponsorships? Because they're about to win WCG in their spare time?

No, and a lawyer won't win WCG either. I judge players (not casters) based on their playing, and in the statement in the OP, EG pretends they do to. Which they clearly don't.

They do judge based on results. It's just that results isn't the only thing they judge them on.

As a business, what they care about the most is the bottom line. So the main question is always going to be is EG getting a return on their investment on a player. And results isn't the only way to get a return on your investment.

They tried to renegotiate their contract. All they asked was for a pay cut from on their top-paid players who was underperforming to better reflect his performance. He said no, and so they decided not to renew their contract with him. That's just business.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 15 2013 08:24 GMT
#238
God damn. I really liked EG Puma. I also expected his results to improve in the beginning of HotS as his playstyle was timing based + Show Spoiler +
. But I guess budgets aren't made out of rubber. Who knew...
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
March 15 2013 08:24 GMT
#239
This is probably the most honest of any of the player releases I've ever seen. Puma's aggressive early to mid game was lots of fun to watch but lately, it just hasn't panned out. Sorry to see him go .
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
March 15 2013 08:25 GMT
#240
On March 15 2013 17:23 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 17:17 blackone wrote:
On March 15 2013 17:00 bittman wrote:
On March 15 2013 16:57 blackone wrote:
On March 15 2013 16:47 Sakray wrote:
And for all the machine/idra/incontrol haters, if I follow your logic, EG has to release their entire sc2 team. Haters gonna hate anyway.


That's not our logic, it's what they want us to believe is their logic. I don't hate idra, machine or incontrol. But PuMa has had better results in a month than these three had over their entire SC2 career. EG wants entertainers, not players.


Yep. A lot of teams do. Why do you think casters even get sponsorships? Because they're about to win WCG in their spare time?

No, and a lawyer won't win WCG either. I judge players (not casters) based on their playing, and in the statement in the OP, EG pretends they do to. Which they clearly don't.

They do judge based on results. It's just that results isn't the only thing they judge them on.

I don't know how many more times I can write this, but I don't read about any other things in their statements. They're saying it's all about the results, and it's not.
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