We really need to get a mod to post a note on top. Note should say to read the entire post. Puma was not simply kicked because he had bad results. People still post this and they're given the same response every time. And that we have no idea how much anyone gets paid.

IcedBacon

Canada906 Posts

March 15 2013 08:14 GMT

#228

That's hilarious, they finally cut a player out of their huge roster but they choose one of their Koreans that have potential to improve and not one of their random foreigners that don't do anything like Machine.

KoRStarvid

Sweden767 Posts

March 15 2013 08:14 GMT

#229

Although it's sad that he has to find a new team now, EG clearly wasn't the right place for him anymore, so this decision makes sense. Puma wasn't a strong personality like Incontrol or Idra (haters can hate all they want, but if they take a look at Idra's fanclub thread then maybe they'll understand why he's worth every cent EG pay him), and if you no longer can deliver results, then there's no reason for EG to keep him. EG might seem cruel compared to other teams, but they're in fact just keeping it professional and treating esports as a proper business. Many teams could learn from them.

Kitetsu

73 Posts

March 15 2013 08:15 GMT

#230

On March 15 2013 16:49 xsnac wrote:
i dont like this becose :

idra is slumping yet i dont think his contract gets lower .
when a player is slumping you help him not force him ... for idra you get a sport psihologist . for puma you lower his income rly ?? i start hating eg now

Romania strikes again.

cYaN

Norway3322 Posts

March 15 2013 08:15 GMT

#231

Hmmm, terrible spl record. Probably a good move, especially if he was that well paid.

IcedBacon

Canada906 Posts

March 15 2013 08:17 GMT

#232

On March 15 2013 16:56 Inori wrote:
What's with all the Huk hate? Is this reddit or something?
Huk is one of the most succesful and consistent foreigners, not to mention a good personality which sells.

lol, consistent? Hell no. Also I know just as many people that hate HuK as ones that like him.

blackone

Germany1314 Posts

March 15 2013 08:17 GMT

#233

On March 15 2013 17:00 bittman wrote:

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Yep. A lot of teams do. Why do you think casters even get sponsorships? Because they're about to win WCG in their spare time?

No, and a lawyer won't win WCG either. I judge players (not casters) based on their playing, and in the statement in the OP, EG pretends they do to. Which they clearly don't.

KoRStarvid

Sweden767 Posts

March 15 2013 08:18 GMT

#234

On March 15 2013 17:14 IcedBacon wrote:
That's hilarious, they finally cut a player out of their huge roster but they choose one of their Koreans that have potential to improve and not one of their random foreigners that don't do anything like Machine.

Machine was one of the original members of EGs starcraft division, and he seems to have a very positive effect on team morale, like Incontrol.

Sorkoas

549 Posts

March 15 2013 08:20 GMT

#235

I'm glad to see EG showing that they are actually able to part with players who don't show any results.

CloudMage

Canada221 Posts

March 15 2013 08:23 GMT

#236

aw man thats sad but makes sense, gotta boost the roster for proleauge, gl Puma hope you find a great new team

also I bet he will win lots now that EG curse has been lifted

dabom88

United States3483 Posts

March 15 2013 08:23 GMT

#237

On March 15 2013 17:17 blackone wrote:

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No, and a lawyer won't win WCG either. I judge players (not casters) based on their playing, and in the statement in the OP, EG pretends they do to. Which they clearly don't.

They do judge based on results. It's just that results isn't the only thing they judge them on.

As a business, what they care about the most is the bottom line. So the main question is always going to be is EG getting a return on their investment on a player. And results isn't the only way to get a return on your investment.

They tried to renegotiate their contract. All they asked was for a pay cut from on their top-paid players who was underperforming to better reflect his performance. He said no, and so they decided not to renew their contract with him. That's just business.

Deleted User 137586

7859 Posts

March 15 2013 08:24 GMT

#238

God damn. I really liked EG Puma. I also expected his results to improve in the beginning of HotS as his playstyle was timing based + Show Spoiler +

. But I guess budgets aren't made out of rubber. Who knew...

Dr.Sin

Canada1126 Posts

March 15 2013 08:24 GMT

#239

This is probably the most honest of any of the player releases I've ever seen. Puma's aggressive early to mid game was lots of fun to watch but lately, it just hasn't panned out. Sorry to see him go

blackone

Germany1314 Posts

March 15 2013 08:25 GMT

#240

On March 15 2013 17:23 dabom88 wrote:

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They do judge based on results. It's just that results isn't the only thing they judge them on.

I don't know how many more times I can write this, but I don't read about any other things in their statements. They're saying it's all about the results, and it's not.