Didn't saw it coming (or is it 'see' ?), but not surprised. At least it's cool to see they Alex admit that part of his prime was when he used and abused an imbalanced build (I remember him slumping a bit after it wasn't good anymore).

And for all the machine/idra/incontrol haters, if I follow your logic, EG has to release their entire sc2 team. Haters gonna hate anyway.
And maybe you didn't realised that maybe they accepted a new contract with less salary because of results, unlike Puma.

NexCa

Germany954 Posts

March 15 2013 07:49 GMT

#202

On March 15 2013 14:18 ILouieI wrote:
i'd pick him over incontrol

Sad, but true

xsnac

Barbados1365 Posts

March 15 2013 07:49 GMT

#203

i dont like this becose :

idra is slumping yet i dont think his contract gets lower .
when a player is slumping you help him not force him ... for idra you get a sport psihologist . for puma you lower his income rly ?? i start hating eg now

Rarak

Australia631 Posts

March 15 2013 07:53 GMT

#204

On March 15 2013 16:49 NexCa wrote:

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Sad, but true

As a player, sure but Incontrol has other qualities which a savvy business like EG value.

Phobbers

773 Posts

March 15 2013 07:54 GMT

#205

On March 15 2013 16:49 xsnac wrote:
i dont like this becose :

idra is slumping yet i dont think his contract gets lower .
when a player is slumping you help him not force him ... for idra you get a sport psihologist . for puma you lower his income rly ?? i start hating eg now

You don't know if Idra has taken a salary cut due to performance. Last I checked EG, nor does any team, have to make a big post about cutting contracts with certain players. You even say your self you're unsure. Idra got the sport psychologist due to his rage/leaving games early. Not because he was in a slump.

Sc2Null

United States3754 Posts

March 15 2013 07:55 GMT

#206

Since they mention statistics, idra/machine/huk/thorzain have all done worst than puma in the past year...soo...?

Deadlyeye

Germany14 Posts

March 15 2013 07:55 GMT

#207

well good luck for eg and puma.
the upside, maybe we see demuslim in proleague, in my eyes the most underrated eg member.

Deleted User 61629

1664 Posts

March 15 2013 07:56 GMT

#208

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nmetasch

United States600 Posts

March 15 2013 07:57 GMT

#209

Yet they keep the ever underperforming Huk, incontrol, and idra lol. I guess you can't beat that stream viewership

, doesn't matter how many results those guys put up, they will still get paid more than the koreans that are way better.

blackone

Germany1314 Posts

March 15 2013 07:57 GMT

#210

On March 15 2013 16:47 Sakray wrote:
And for all the machine/idra/incontrol haters, if I follow your logic, EG has to release their entire sc2 team. Haters gonna hate anyway.

That's not our logic, it's what they want us to believe is their logic. I don't hate idra, machine or incontrol. But PuMa has had better results in a month than these three had over their entire SC2 career. EG wants entertainers, not players.

Phobbers

773 Posts

March 15 2013 08:00 GMT

#211

On March 15 2013 16:55 Sc2Null wrote:
Since they mention statistics, idra/machine/huk/thorzain have all done worst than puma in the past year...soo...?

I feel too many people aren't reading the entire OP and just jumping on the idea of "Puma cut because not doing good"

OP states that Puma was one of their highest paid Korean players, he was offered a smaller contract due to performance and said no. Thus resulting in the two splitting ways. Once again when bringing in other people on EG, you don't know how much anyone is getting contract wise. Perhaps EG offered them smaller contracts because of performance? And perhaps they took the offer! EG doesn't have to do a press release every time they renegotiate contracts with their players. It's not rocket science folks.

bittman

Australia8759 Posts

March 15 2013 08:00 GMT

#212

On March 15 2013 16:57 blackone wrote:

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Yep. A lot of teams do. Why do you think casters even get sponsorships? Because they're about to win WCG in their spare time?

But hey. It's TL so "Burn the witch" "Down with money" "I hate foreigners" etc.

iEatWoofers

Switzerland108 Posts

March 15 2013 08:02 GMT

#213

Fair enough. He'll find a new team soon, I think. Probably a foreign team again...

furo

Germany449 Posts

March 15 2013 08:02 GMT

#214

guess they dont have infinite money after all?
gl in the future puma, i really enjoyed watching you at the IEMs you attented

Resilient

United Kingdom1431 Posts

March 15 2013 08:03 GMT

#215

Regardless of people's opinion on it, I'm pretty thankful for EG to provide such clarity on why he was released. If more teams followed this instead of "amicably parted ways and wish each other the best" there would be much less dirtsheets and speculation in the community.

I hope Puma finds his way, as much as I hated what he did to the ladder as a Protoss player, I have to respect his accomplishments.

BackSideAttack

1103 Posts

March 15 2013 08:06 GMT

#216

So basically results only matter if you're Korean....

Packawana

United States1081 Posts

March 15 2013 08:07 GMT

#217

PuMa was my idol from NASL1, and was the model for Terran for me when I first started playing. Even though he is gone from EG, I hope he finds his way -- he is a talented player, and under the right hands, could be one of the greatest. I hope he finds his way back to that form.

yokohama

United States1116 Posts

March 15 2013 08:08 GMT

#218

On March 15 2013 16:55 Sc2Null wrote:
Since they mention statistics, idra/machine/huk/thorzain have all done worst than puma in the past year...soo...?

I'm going to assume they were paying Puma a lot more than those players, especially from what was said in the article.

kubiks

France1328 Posts

March 15 2013 08:09 GMT

#219

On March 15 2013 16:45 Phobbers wrote:

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Yeah, it's not like he ever played against any top koreans at the tournies he was in. He only beat this scrub MC a few times to take two golds, lost to him to get a silver. Beat this terrible guy named Hero once to get a gold, lost to him as well for a silver. Took out some pretty terrible Koreans as well on his road to multiple top 8 finishes.

I mean Puma wasn't a god, far from it. But he was a hell of player. During his prime, definitely a top player.

Puma was on the rise before joining EG. I remember that he made me some points in the fantasy GSTL, before EG took him (and I still hate EG for that, because the player I traded puma for was a guy named Huk...). Then he proceed to ride on a good 1-1-1 to win some foreign tourneys (as only MC and Hero could afford them at thoses times). He got stuck in code B for 2 years (I think he's the best player that didn't managed to get at least once to code A after multiple attempts), and I don't think he will ever again do a run as good as his NASL 1 run.
His prime was over pretty much the day he joined EG, because objectively his best achivements (as in "beat a lot of good people", not "winning some tourneys") were before (but remeber correlation doesn't mean causation).