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Any future posts about nationality or other off topic posts will receive a 2-day ban minimum. (0900 KST 9 March 2013)
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
March 08 2013 09:21 GMT
#121
Without intentionally adding fuel to any fire here...

There were some issues regarding Jonny and his non-attendance at WCG, I believe because his father wouldn't let him travel to China.

He ended up coming to the ESET UK Masters instead and placing 3rd.
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
March 08 2013 09:29 GMT
#122
On March 08 2013 18:13 Greendotz wrote:
I'm fine with the whole 'call patch zerg and get temp ban' thing, I get why they do it,


why? why is the word "patchzerg" a bad word at all? it doesnt say anything about your intelligence or abilities. It states that you played a race around the time when it was widely accepted as the best race and you won games with it. If pro players play for money and zerg is an acceptable race in tournaments then pro players who pick Zerg as their race are pretty smart if you ask me.
~
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3804 Posts
March 08 2013 09:31 GMT
#123
On March 08 2013 18:29 trada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 18:13 Greendotz wrote:
I'm fine with the whole 'call patch zerg and get temp ban' thing, I get why they do it,


why? why is the word "patchzerg" a bad word at all? it doesnt say anything about your intelligence or abilities. It states that you played a race around the time when it was widely accepted as the best race and you won games with it. If pro players play for money and zerg is an acceptable race in tournaments then pro players who pick Zerg as their race are pretty smart if you ask me.

It's basically the same as saying: You suck, it's only because you play zerg and were at the right place at the right time.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 08 2013 09:32 GMT
#124
On March 08 2013 18:29 trada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 18:13 Greendotz wrote:
I'm fine with the whole 'call patch zerg and get temp ban' thing, I get why they do it,


why? why is the word "patchzerg" a bad word at all? it doesnt say anything about your intelligence or abilities. It states that you played a race around the time when it was widely accepted as the best race and you won games with it. If pro players play for money and zerg is an acceptable race in tournaments then pro players who pick Zerg as their race are pretty smart if you ask me.



Because it's demeaning of players and gives them absolutely no credit. No matter if there is a problem or not calling them a patch anything is disrespectful and should be ban worthy.

You obviously think it's fine but even if it was terran or protoss overpowered (and if anybody knows me at all they know I have a severe hatred of protoss) I would still find it irritating as hell. It's not even funny just disrespectful.
When I think of something else, something will go here
rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
March 08 2013 09:40 GMT
#125
On March 08 2013 18:32 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 18:29 trada wrote:
On March 08 2013 18:13 Greendotz wrote:
I'm fine with the whole 'call patch zerg and get temp ban' thing, I get why they do it,


why? why is the word "patchzerg" a bad word at all? it doesnt say anything about your intelligence or abilities. It states that you played a race around the time when it was widely accepted as the best race and you won games with it. If pro players play for money and zerg is an acceptable race in tournaments then pro players who pick Zerg as their race are pretty smart if you ask me.



Because it's demeaning of players and gives them absolutely no credit. No matter if there is a problem or not calling them a patch anything is disrespectful and should be ban worthy.

You obviously think it's fine but even if it was terran or protoss overpowered (and if anybody knows me at all they know I have a severe hatred of protoss) I would still find it irritating as hell. It's not even funny just disrespectful.


Yeah, it's basically like insulting someone as a "trustfund kiddie" without knowing if the person actually had to put in effort at school to keep his trustfund - or if he would actually be wealthy by his own merits without his parents money - by now.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33203 Posts
March 08 2013 09:42 GMT
#126
I'm more interested in these unfulfilled promises
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
March 08 2013 09:44 GMT
#127
On March 08 2013 18:31 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 18:29 trada wrote:
On March 08 2013 18:13 Greendotz wrote:
I'm fine with the whole 'call patch zerg and get temp ban' thing, I get why they do it,


why? why is the word "patchzerg" a bad word at all? it doesnt say anything about your intelligence or abilities. It states that you played a race around the time when it was widely accepted as the best race and you won games with it. If pro players play for money and zerg is an acceptable race in tournaments then pro players who pick Zerg as their race are pretty smart if you ask me.

It's basically the same as saying: You suck, it's only because you play zerg and were at the right place at the right time.


If that were even remotely the case and Zerg required no skill then all the pro players would switch to that race but they didnt.
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iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
March 08 2013 09:44 GMT
#128
So everyone calling him patchzerg gets a temp ban except Cloud?
It takes a fool to remain sane.
TrutY
Profile Joined March 2012
Croatia26 Posts
March 08 2013 09:44 GMT
#129
On March 08 2013 17:42 frozzz wrote:
shocking, I wish him good luck in finding a new team, he is a great player


Sarkazam against bans on TL :trollface:

Anyway...hope he finds a new team soon, he is a great player
krneki
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway237 Posts
March 08 2013 09:49 GMT
#130
On March 08 2013 18:44 TrutY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 17:42 frozzz wrote:
shocking, I wish him good luck in finding a new team, he is a great player


Sarkazam against bans on TL :trollface:

Anyway...hope he finds a new team soon, he is a great player


hope he finds a new team soon, he was a great player since patch 1.4.3
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
March 08 2013 09:51 GMT
#131
He is BM, his best result was the 3rd place at WCS UK. Why did dignatas pick him up in the first place?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
krneki
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway237 Posts
March 08 2013 09:53 GMT
#132
On March 08 2013 18:51 graNite wrote:
He is BM, his best result was the 3rd place at WCS UK. Why did dignatas pick him up in the first place?


those were different times back in the days. patchzergs were a desired commodity. i know, hard to imagine, right?

User was warned for this post
ItanoCircus
Profile Joined January 2013
United States67 Posts
March 08 2013 09:54 GMT
#133
He was a mediocre (compared to othe "named" players) player that played a boring style that added no excitement to himself as a player or to his team. Throw in that HotS is about to come out (and bring inventiveness to an art for the first year or two) and that Dignitas is questioning even pursuing their SC2 roster further and we can see where this went easily.

I believe that he overvalued himself in a slightly oversaturated market and wasn't capable of performing to his own expectations. Dignitas should not (and apparently did not) feel the need to pay for the player... and considering his level of BM, they probably didn't feel the need to pay for the person either.

It is good that our community is becoming less accepting of BM. Also, TL mods, thumbs up.
Better to be thought a fool and keep your mouth closed than to open it and remove all doubt.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 08 2013 09:59 GMT
#134
I always thought that Dignitas one of the better teams. Pretty shocked about those unfulfilled promises...
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Sooooil
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany497 Posts
March 08 2013 10:13 GMT
#135
Dignitas Dimaga?
dignitasDreAm
Profile Joined December 2011
China43 Posts
March 08 2013 10:29 GMT
#136
Good Luck
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
March 08 2013 10:33 GMT
#137
On March 08 2013 18:29 trada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 18:13 Greendotz wrote:
I'm fine with the whole 'call patch zerg and get temp ban' thing, I get why they do it,


why? why is the word "patchzerg" a bad word at all? it doesnt say anything about your intelligence or abilities. It states that you played a race around the time when it was widely accepted as the best race and you won games with it. If pro players play for money and zerg is an acceptable race in tournaments then pro players who pick Zerg as their race are pretty smart if you ask me.


Agreed, it makes perfect sense right? A patch came out that was clearly intended to buff zerg, ergo zergs post-patch turned in better results, thus they are 'patchzergs'. Problem is the term has lost its 'state-of-fact' and has now been intended as a derogatory term for a long while now ("you're not good, you're just a patchzerg" ect.). This is evident in that either through frustration or ignorance people still use the term, even when the patch has been out for the best part of 10 months now and things have stabilised in terms of global win rates and that zergs have since received nerfs. Whenever the term is used it is 99% of the time used as an attack or to cause offence (‘to troll’ if you will) and if people are trying to build a structured debate about balance then they’ll steer well clear of the term so they’ll be taken more seriously.
krneki
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway237 Posts
March 08 2013 10:41 GMT
#138
nobody knew recco before patch. everybody heard of him after the patch. getting banned for calling someone "a patchzerg" even though he is the best example of a patchzerg is just silly.

in this case is not even derogatory. its plain and simple truth. it would be derogatory to call him anything other than patchzerg
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
March 08 2013 10:45 GMT
#139
On March 08 2013 18:51 graNite wrote:
He is BM, his best result was the 3rd place at WCS UK. Why did dignatas pick him up in the first place?


I'm pretty sure you answered that question yourself
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Ingebrigtsen
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Norway343 Posts
March 08 2013 10:46 GMT
#140
fun fact, Recco was the second best foreign zerg on the HOTS ladder
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