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laerteis
Profile Joined August 2012
United States78 Posts
March 06 2013 14:05 GMT
#261
I'm almost tempted to believe this garbage, because who would possibly make up such a ridiculously obtuse lie?

There is no explanation that can save this massive facepalm.
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Squiggles
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada54 Posts
March 06 2013 14:06 GMT
#262
The whole Code A/Code S system is messed up anyway. They should have a better method of ranking all players and seed the top 16/24 in the main tournament every time, and everyone else qualifies + wildcards. This is how they do it for tennis tournaments.

This allows for less volatility, a more stable set of players (grow popularity), and have rivalries. It sucks when the top players pick themselves into the same group and get knocked out in RO32. You'll net get the #1 and #2 favorites meeting in the final.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
March 06 2013 14:06 GMT
#263
This is totally ridiculous.
That said, I trust Chae and I don't think he would do it lightly.
movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
March 06 2013 14:08 GMT
#264
they should have at least let Rain play out the up/down so that maybe Rain and Flying can advanace to prevent the chance of yet another zerg (soo/sniper) from being in code S
tj341
Profile Joined October 2012
United States147 Posts
March 06 2013 14:11 GMT
#265
I don't think this is Gom's choice. Why would gom voluntarily give Rain another chance when last time he ditched their tournament for mlg?
totauksz
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Ghana190 Posts
March 06 2013 14:14 GMT
#266
it wasn't really "deserved" in any way this time, but you can argue that some players deserved it before.

like seeds from top MLG placement (MMA, DRG, MC)

or seeds from winning premier tournaments, being really succesful at a time.

If i'm correct, 8 seeds come from code S, 12 seeds come from code A round of 12, and other 12 comes from up/down groups, with 2 people advancing from each group it means there must be 6 groups,28 players come from code A, which can't be divided by 6, so there must be 2 seeds to make it a multiple of 6 (or 5). the other way is to make groups have different number of players which makes it slightly unfair (they have less mathematical chance to advance if the group is bigger)

so the seeds are justified in this sense, to fill in the gaps of the format

also a different way to fill in the gaps of the format is to give direct code s seeds and have 1 less groups consiting of a certain number of players and possible seeds to make it a multiple of the certain number

so bottom line, if they have the current format, seeds are somewhat required to make it absolutely even and fair for everybody, but one could argue that the format is fundamentally flawed.

anyways the matches they televise are basically a product of the gomtv studio, they make efforts to satisfy the crowd, and I guess we have to be happy whichever format they use because even if they use the stupidest one, we still get the best quality of sc2 from gomtv and they have great services if you buy their ticket.
Nineball
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway163 Posts
March 06 2013 14:14 GMT
#267
I like mr Chae. I respect him also, I'm going to wait for this announcement
Sirvantes7
Profile Joined May 2011
United States18 Posts
March 06 2013 14:16 GMT
#268
On March 06 2013 22:51 boxerfred wrote:
Lol, seeds get more and more ridiculous.

HuK got seeded (what for, by the way, he wasn't even on a Code A level), now Rain gets seeded (who is on Code S/A level, yepp), though he already got the chance of qualifying... I don't get that seed stuff anymore. But with latest zerg dominance, GSL gets uninteresting anyways (well, I'm zerg, too), so I'm really rooting for next season's HOTS start!!


Huk was seeded to U/D and advance to code S from that. That's totally different from being seeded directly to Code S.
I wonder what my APM is while clearing Quasar [A]....
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 14:19:13
March 06 2013 14:18 GMT
#269
On March 06 2013 22:21 iGX wrote:
@ Elite_

what is your reason for level of hate for this? Rain, current reigning OSL champion, high level WCS contender, GSL semi-finalist doesn't deserve this seed? what does he have to do to actually "deserve" it then?

Rain deserves this seed more than some of the players that made it into code S for the upcoming season. He's been on tilt in the last couple of weeks but name one player that doesn't go through a slump once in a while...

To be honest he hasn't done anything of recent especially after he chose to drop out of Code S once before. I'm not trying to start an argument but I'm just stating the facts. Neither am I saying he does or doesn't deserve the seed.
On March 06 2013 23:11 tj341 wrote:
I don't think this is Gom's choice. Why would gom voluntarily give Rain another chance when last time he ditched their tournament for mlg?


It probably involves another partner of some sort.
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Gruntt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States175 Posts
March 06 2013 14:19 GMT
#270
Someone prob dropped out and they figured Rain was a good seed, but the person that is dropping out just doesn't want it announced yet.
primal
Profile Joined July 2010
Philippines114 Posts
March 06 2013 14:19 GMT
#271
he definitly has the quality to play code s.

a seeding always feels undeserved

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Gemini_sc2
Profile Joined February 2013
Norway69 Posts
March 06 2013 14:21 GMT
#272
I don't see the this as a big problem, as GOM wouldn't seed people for no reason.
Soon enough we shall see the announcement with the reasoning behind this decision.
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
March 06 2013 14:21 GMT
#273
this is the REASON:
stephano drops out of code S and GOMTV needs someone to replace him. He cannot state it right now or he will spoil the whole thing about stephano.
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
March 06 2013 14:23 GMT
#274
It's obvious that Nestea decided to invade Rain's body in a Lazarus Pit that he has been constructing for the last year (hence his exceptionally poor performance), and so they gave Nestea the seed in celebration of his near-certain return to form.
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Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
March 06 2013 14:23 GMT
#275
So very unfair, just make it play the Up&Downs or/and the wildcard group :/ Instant seed eventhough he could have more chances? Very fishy and unfair for other players showing promise.
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Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
March 06 2013 14:24 GMT
#276
awww yiss!

rain fighting!~~ :D

wonder what the soon to be revealed reason for seeding him is?! :O
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
March 06 2013 14:32 GMT
#277
On March 06 2013 23:19 Gruntt wrote:
Someone prob dropped out and they figured Rain was a good seed, but the person that is dropping out just doesn't want it announced yet.

I'm having this impression, too
Probably stephano, but he doesn't want to announce it yet
...
blackbrrd
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway477 Posts
March 06 2013 14:33 GMT
#278
On March 06 2013 23:06 Squiggles wrote:
The whole Code A/Code S system is messed up anyway. They should have a better method of ranking all players and seed the top 16/24 in the main tournament every time, and everyone else qualifies + wildcards. This is how they do it for tennis tournaments.

This allows for less volatility, a more stable set of players (grow popularity), and have rivalries. It sucks when the top players pick themselves into the same group and get knocked out in RO32. You'll net get the #1 and #2 favorites meeting in the final.

They had a much simpler system earlier, but you got a stagnant Code S. Not good.

The way they have it now gives plenty of opportunities to both Code S and Code A players to move up and down, but at the same time makes it likely that bad Code S players drops down, or good Code A players move up.

If you have a bad streak or are in a slump, you can drop down, but for this they have the seeding from other tournaments, which I think works pretty well. A bit unusual that they haven't told us why Rain got the seed.
zkeller51
Profile Joined September 2012
United States25 Posts
March 06 2013 14:34 GMT
#279
weird he would have made it any way so it doesn't really matter
i hope they seed MMA in to code S too

Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 06 2013 14:35 GMT
#280
I'm going to trust Chae on this and wait for their reasoning - I like that guy.
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