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Main Team 8 Fantasy (captain) He is simply so good to be in any team's ace position, great all around player. 5 herO[jOin] He deserves 7 point imo, solid PvZ and PvP. 3 JYP JYP is a great backbone to rely on in PL format. 5 P7GAB(Wooki) No.2 player for KT for only 5 points? That's insane! 5 Soulkey Same as above. 3 Trap Decent sniper, has a lot of potential to do better and better. 1 SK Telecom T1 They did terrible in R2, but they will be back in R3.
Anti Team 2 Flying Not playing. 3 hyvaa He face JYP on a Protoss favored map. 8 JangBi PvP vs herO? Oh poor OSL champion.
Pretty hard choices this round with so many 8 pointers. My boy ZerO got bumped up so much that I couldn't take him over the steady Fanta. On the other hand there were a bunch of great 4/5 pointers to pick from, such as soO, herO and Terminator. Made a gamble with 6 pointer Cure in hopes that he will continue to hold T8 together and finished it with 2 pointer Bbyong and SKT T1.
My Anti-team is probably quite weak as there with the advent of good 4/5 pointers, there was also the fact that you had to choose a few to be on your anti. I think the Savage and Action picks are OK, with maybe Dear proving he might bite me in the ass later.
I expect KT to own this round with so many good players. BisanG and Reality are filler (both are going to play according to the starter thread). Hopefully they'll give some points. JangBi is my captain because he was good last round, seems to get better and likely is going to be Khan's ace
Anti-team: Wanted to choose Taeja because he can't play due to wrist injury but I can't pick him so I picked Rain (high points, didn't do so well last round). Bisu doesn't get any play. s2 disappointed me in round 1.
On a serious note: I feel that Motive for 2 has potential as he was really shining at the end of R1, Innovation for 6 is very good value for a sure-ace Crazy Hydra for 3?! Whaaaaa!!
I went for a quite balanced line-up, investing in players who all get to play and preferably in earlier sets than late ones, didn't make the mistake of captaining someone expensive who then starts losing and I can't trade him. Team is Samsung Khan because WJS's price skyrocketed and Khan players started actually looking a bit better, it's not impossible to imagine 4 of them winning, atleast again lamer teams. With Jangbi/RorO, who are starting to look really good Ace choices, they only need 1 win from some dinosaur-clad WoW-nerd to have a good chance at winning. I didn't but either in my team because it's Samsung Khan and they never seem to realize that you can keep winning. Effort 7 pointer, because he is solid, gets to play Ace-matches and has good chances against non-protoss at least. Light,Innovation for 10 e-bucks is a bargain IMHO, both all-killed last round so their overall skills should be really good to go into the standard format. Wooki for a 5 makes me feel a bit uncomfortable but he all-killed too and gets to play Best first round, who probably doesn't have too hot PvP. Terminator started last round well but then kinda fizzled. I believe he'll be back. Seriously, it's just a cool name. Motive is my captain because he'll probably get to play first or second a lot, he doesn't seem all that bad. He also gets to play soo on the first round, and soo's ZvP doesn't look too hot, Motive even has a kill on him.
e. Anti-team free really looked like crap most of the time although he got a lot of wins. I think his success made him overperform towards the end of R2. Also, getting a 7 pointer allowed me to field my super-ace Bisu. soO's there too, I think Flash has used his skill-sucking device on him as well.
New Thoughts: I went over the numbers again, and came to the conclusion that having a reeaaally high value player like fantasy, Flash or hydra might not payoff in the PL-Format. So i cut hydra and started again
Action --> KT Rolster. 5 Points. Zerg. Do i need to say more? 5 points is not that much, he has good winrate and plays on the team that will win the most. Also he seems to be the number one zerg, ranked higher than CH, so i decided to bench CH for now HeroJoin --> On a downward spiral right now, but still one of the better players in PL and i think he will do well for a 5 pointer. Bogus --> I needed an Ace player, since i cut hydra, so i went with the cheapest ace player, Bogus fucked me up big time, when i put him in my main team last round, but i hope he will do well this time. He seemed to be in much better shape last week. Major --> Same old Same old. Needed a cheap player. Team 8 looks pretty decent. He said he will get playtime in Round 3 if everything goes according to his plan. So I went full foreigner and bought him. Will propably hurt me but oh well Wooki/Stats --> I think they make for a excellent backbone and i predict that they will score a whole lot of points. Team 8 --> So i could afford the players I wanted. I think they will do better than EG-TL
Anti: Rain --> Bad form lately, hope he continues to dissapoint, altough i am aware, that he's a pretty big risk hyvva --> Didn't do anything to impress me Mini --> He lookes atrocious most of the time.
Feel like not going for the biggest names, all-kill format suited me better tho. ZerO and Effort will deliver, their teams might not. Fantasy feels not all too powerful atm, a lot of points for him so he makes my anti complete.
Bogus is the STX ace for only 6 points, i trust in him, also JD is only 6 points. I went with all good/decent players this time instead of 1 or 2 big names. I havve been impressed by P7GAB's play so he was a must. Also looking at the first match, i expect most, if not all, to win them.
For anti i wanted at least 1 players who wont play at all (ABLM has a 0-3 record so far, dont expect him to get picked) and a player who wont win as much, so i needed one 8 pointer. Think sOs wont do really well this round. And his first match is vs TY, and i think he will lose that (TY might went out in GSL,but he played good, almost picked him for my team, but it was him or P7GAB).
Stats and KT Rolster have shown that they are really good when preparing for 1 specific opponent in Round 1. Dear and BoguS from STX SouL seem to be in good shape towards the end of Round 2 and hopefully keep up their practice to do well in Round 3. Soulkey and hOn_sin from Woongjin Stars to get some good regulars from Woongjin Stars for some points as they should continue to be 2nd place team after KT Rolster. MajOr from Team 8th as filler with potentially getting send out towards the end of Round 3.
Hydra, SonGDuri and Bong from CJ Entus on anti so i only have to hope 1 certain team has to lose instead of keeping track of multiple teams. >.>
Normally, I pick one or two expensive players and fill up with 3/4 pointers who have potential. This round, however, there are so many juicy picks in the 4/5 price range that I forwent picking any expensive players. Still, I ended up with two solid ace match candidates in Bogus and CJ_herO, and who knows if a coach won't send Light, soO or Stats to play the ace match on a good day. All of them should see plenty of play time. Also, there's Bbyong lol. Woongjin Stars is a very strong team with perhaps the greatest depth of all. The proleague format should fit them even better than the all-kill format. I expect them to end many matches before the ace match.
I'm not really happy with my anti-team. Free will certainly score points, but I hope he won't live up to his 7 point price on a team with stiff competition for a lineup spot. With Taeja unpickable for the anti-team, I didn't really find any satisfying options. I'm just gonna have to live in fear.
First of choices for antiteam, that was way harder to do than last rounds (addmitedly i failed last time with stork suddenly winning alot). Bisu isnt playing this week and i doubt he will get played often, so basically 2 free points there. Decided to split the remaining 11 between two players rather than taking a high-risk move (no 8+). JD seemed weak against toss and Dear is on a roll lately (6 kills out of 7 for STX) so im counting on the win there for Dear to prevent the Dong from getting me points. herO is playing JangBi, PvP remains a tossup but i have faith in JangBi to also stop herO from winning. while SKT, EGTL and CJ might give me some small losses, i'd take that over someone who might win acematch. Main team then: JYP and Revival swapped value and JYP performed well round 1 and seems a good vP and vZ bet on most maps (and the occasional vT win even :O), Revival is prolly the 2nd zerg for EGTL (since stephano is hopping on and off the team?) and JD is mainy great for winning ZvZ's, so i hope revival keeps send out. For the combined value of 8, great pair of players to have on a team that might get a bigger winratio than .500 this time. Decided on the terran WJS duo of Bravo and Light, they're quite cheap but since they're the best terrans on WJS (imo), at least one of them seems guarenteed to play each week and WJS is my team as well cuz i expect them to win alot, so even if they dont play or lose they should give me some points. Had 11 points left and came to some hard choices; i wanted another toss and zerg (so my team is 2-2-2 and i can always trade first round should i want to). Opted for soO because he seems the strongest zerg on SKT, and should SKT win alot the +1 for that will balance out the ones i might get on Bisu. Im not expecting SKT to win alot again this round, they seem weaker than before, but now that they cant be stomped by 1 player they might end up winning some matches. Then i had to pick a toss player for 7 points and i'm still not sure about it - Stork, who showed good results last round all the time but was horrible in round 1 - or HerO? Right now i'm going with Stork but if everyone here is going HerO or can convince me to take HerO, i might swap them. Right now i took Stork because he destroyed my antiteam last round and i hope he keeps playing like that, and HerO might have to focus on GSL and foreign event much more than Stork, which could affect him or he might even miss some matches because he isn't in korea...
TL;DR Overall i tried to get many "midvalued" players, last rounds i always had 1/2 pointers and both times i ended up with only 1 point overall from them, so that sucked bigtime. The only 2value i have is Bisu and he's on anti so i hope it stays like that. Not sure about my captain - Stork or HerO. One of them becomes captain, the other is out. Suggestions/comments?
EDIT: swapped Stork out and HerO is in... might be the worst decision of all bad ones i have made, but well, HerO seems the most likely ace for EGTL unless the other team is pretty much guarenteed to play a zerg, whereas stork on KHAN also has JangBi
- Bbyong didn't do badly in GSL - Flying's always been a good player that probably hasn't been played much in the all-kill rounds yet did well in the OSL and Proleague Round 1. - Soulkey is my captain because.... holy shit his ZvZ is good and he was one of the few Zergs apart from Effort that really impressed me when KeSPA switched to SC2. - Light seems like a familiar name to me, don't know much about his skill. - Stephano is an obvious choice considering he's not doing too badly in Proleague right now. - Thorzain was someone I was skeptical about at first but he proved his worth in Round 1. - Woongjin is my team pick because they've done really well in Proleague so far and for only 4 points that's a steal. - My anti-picks are less educated. All I know is Stork hasn't been doing so well in SC2.
My second time playing this. This is basically based off of who did well in my previous team and who did better for almost the same price. Didn't want to go for any hight cost players, I want an overall high chance for my players to win. I dislike Terrans, even though they get probably played the most...
I cut Action, he did well but there are better players for the price now. Revival was the most rewarding player in my team and I really like to see him play, so he stays. Dear and soO are both consistent players with potential to do better imho. I didn't see all their games but from what I saw they really have room to improve but STILL manage to win a lot. I first hesitated to pick Soulkey but after a few statistic comparisons and the fact that he learned the game super fast gives me hope. He was also picked for ace twice, so the coach has to have high expectations of him. I'm trusting the coach here.
Also, I'm feeling that KT is strongest in this format. Their coach just prepares the players really well, it's not just Flash kicking butts! I wanted Motive for my 2point player. But I have to pick a T. Bbyong seems the most solid out of all 2 point players(skyhigh won more but also played fewer games IIRC) I'm planning on not trading anything from my main team within the season. I play this as if it was my own team. Only if something goes HORRIBLY wrong I might change something.
JangBi and Stork really did well and I shouldn't pick them for my anti team again. Shine on the other hand wasn't really promising. This time, I'm trying a different strat: RorO might tear apart my anti team, but Sola(Bbatta) and Shine won't really do well or get played at all. So even if he does well(and for that price it is expected), it won't be too hard. I hope. There are no player-based all kills or streaks in this format, so I think it's somewhat safe to try this strategy!
I hope that Baby won't screw me over like last time(he was on my main team, captain) Jaehoon has looked great for a long time now. Nevertheless, he's a risky pick, as I fear he may be under more pressure this time around. Stars seem to have the best balanced and stable line-up, thus I see them winning their games. Hopefully my other picks won't fail me.
On January 27 2013 20:54 KeksX wrote: Going with a pure Samsung KHAN antiteam proved me wrong. JangBi and Stork really did well and I shouldn't pick them for my anti. Shine on the other hand wasn't really promising. This time, I'm trying a different strat: RorO might tear apart my anti team, but Mini and Shine won't really do well or get played at all. So even if he does well(and for that price it is expected), it won't be too hard. I hope. There are no playerb-ased all kills or streaks in this format, so I think it's safe to play this card.
Here's to #4724 again =)
well RorO should never be on anti, but if you want a 100% KHAN antiteam, the one you have seems the best - shine was one big and total utter dissapointment round 1, mini i've seen very little from... whereas Stork and JangBi where the two that brought KHAN the mostwins last round.
Picked mostly players that are solid and have a good chance of being played as ace. Flash and Innovation are probably their team's go to ace player while Soulkey and herO at 5 points makes a good supporting cast. Overall if flash maintains his 1st and 2nd round form, i feel that ill be able to stack some points with my supporting cast of Soulkey, herO and innovation, I didnt exactly pick according to the week 1 match up, but it just seems weird to me that SKT is a 1 pointer. They might have a hard time against KT but im pretty sure their stock will rise in the coming weeks. With 3 points left, i went for Bbyong, he hasnt done exceptionally well but i had him on last 2 round and he managed to get me some decent points. Although SkyHigh is the only starting terran for CJ, imo Bbyong is their best terran on the team! Acacia is like my random 1 pointer, unless someone else has a better suggestion for a 1 pointer? lol
Anti team is pretty straight forward, i dont think free is that good. IMO he got luck many times during the last round and if Woonjin needs a protoss to play ace, it will be sHy. Havent seen enough of hyvaa to be impressed and Last hasnt done alot since his OSL run.
Last time i made pretty good choices for my main and my anti wrecked havoc on me (Jangbi and Argo on anti, what the hell did i think?).
I am really betting on SKT to get better this round, cause there rooster is so big and stacked that proleague format should suit them better then all-kill. I prefer Fantasy over Rain because his performances have been better and i see more ace potential in him. Also he is playing Crazy 1st round and i am almost certain he'll do it. Soulkey and soO are too really really strong players who seem a bit undervalued, especially soO might be a big steal for only 4 points. I also expect JYP to do well once again, i am really setting high hopes on him beating hyvaa who looked terrible every time i saw him play. Definitly worth his 3 points. Bong is some big gamble but i liked his play last round, so who knows? And finally i had 6 points left... And it's JD man!
For my anti i felt like hydra is overvalued. Definitly a solid player which will score some wins but i dont feel like he's really worth his 8 points. Hyvaa is hopefully losing to JYP and Major simply isnt gonna play a whole lot and is on T8 as well.
On January 27 2013 20:54 KeksX wrote: Going with a pure Samsung KHAN antiteam proved me wrong. JangBi and Stork really did well and I shouldn't pick them for my anti. Shine on the other hand wasn't really promising. This time, I'm trying a different strat: RorO might tear apart my anti team, but Mini and Shine won't really do well or get played at all. So even if he does well(and for that price it is expected), it won't be too hard. I hope. There are no playerb-ased all kills or streaks in this format, so I think it's safe to play this card.
Here's to #4724 again =)
well RorO should never be on anti, but if you want a 100% KHAN antiteam, the one you have seems the best - shine was one big and total utter dissapointment round 1, mini i've seen very little from... whereas Stork and JangBi where the two that brought KHAN the mostwins last round.
Yeah I'm expecting RorO to do well, but I'm planning on him to be the only one to do well. Also, he will only be able to f*** up my anti team if he gets picked for ace a lot, and with JangBi and Stork he has some serious competition.
As I said, I know it's risky, but I think it's a good thing to try! And it's not 100% KHAN, Mini is on SKT!(Which is one thing I think I could change, but I'm not sure whom to pick) Realizing Mini might bring in too many points for my anti since he is on SKT, I traded him in for Sola(BBatta). Now my anti is 100% KHAN again(Sorry )
Team pick - WJS/CJ/KT are all 4 points to get, and out of the 3 WJS is probably the strongest right now. I think KHAN will go back to slumping in this format, as JangBi and RorO can't carry multiple games in a series like all kill format to make up for the rest of the team. Stork has stepped up recently, but I personally don't find his play very good, a lot all in 1-2 base plays. Don't think those'll keep working this round unless Stork improves some more. EGTL might be a good deal for 2 points, but Stephano and Taeja aren't playing so it's not worth it. Team 8 might be worth the 2 cost but they play WJS first week and I think they'll lose before the ace match on that.
Main Team picks BrAvO is bargain at 3 points. For whatever reason he didn't play at all in round 2, but he did well round 1 and he's on the line up again in round 3. WJS has a really deep roster so it's not too surprising BrAvO didn't play in all kill format. Light is still a good deal at 4 points. I think his late game still needs improvement but he chooses really smart builds and executes them well. He's gonna be a regular for WJS in this format. JYP should see play every series with Taeja injured and Stephano traveling for foreign tournaments. he should win this week's match. At 3 point he's a decent deal. Bong has been used quite often by CJ in lately and do decently. I think he might become part of the core roster in this format. His opponent Reality this week has pretty bad TvP. Innovation - good value at 6, he seems to be starting to get out of slump. And I just don't see Zenio beating him in this week's game. Effort - He is playing sooo well right now, and at 7 points is a better deal than most other aces. I'm making him my captain because I think there's little reason to trade him away in this format.
Anti Team Stork - overvalued at 7 points, he's recent win streaks weren't super impressive games IMO. I don't expect him to beat Hydra. Out of all the 7+ value players, he is by far the most likely to lose his week 1 match. Except maybe HerO, but I'm a bit biased against HerO because I think he just chokes too much. Anyways, probably will trade him to Taeja/Stephano next week if they aren't in the line up again. Although the admins might make them still not tradeable on if that's the case. Last - 3 point player that's not in week 1 line up. Easy choice. Reality - 3 point player most likely to lose their first game. Except maybe s2 and crazy who are playing Flash and Fantasy, but those are actually decent players. Not worth having to pay the trade tax later to get rid of them.
Other random comments: Savage is a great deal at 3 points. Too bad he's playing 6th game vs ZerO. Chances are it won't go to the 6th game and even if it did ZerO has got sick ZvZ. I'm planning on trading Bong or JYP for savage after week 1 depending on what next week's line up is.
Soo is amazing for 4 points. TY is a steal at 5 if you think he can come out of his slump. Soulkey and herO[join] are cheap cheap cheap at 5 as well. I'm actually tempted to swap out Innovation + JYP for Soo + SoulKey or herO. Too bad Cure is great TvZ so his game vs Soulkey is 50/50, and herO vs Jangbi is also about 50/50. I feel safer with Innovation and JYP as they are very likely to win their first week games.
Im not sure I like any part of this team honestly except getting SKT at 1 point being a huge steal (but then I put Bisu on anti showing how much of a draft this is). My strategy for this was to pick players who I think will win there opening game so that there value will go up so I can trade for better players though after I get some sleep and think on it I might have a better idea because unlike the previous 2 rounds where I was one or 2 bad picks from winning the whole thing I dont have same confidence with this team.
Edit: I did pick JD and Fantasy because I can see them favoring Fantasy as the ace for SKT and with Taeja out and Stephano not playing as much that could mean a couple of Ace appearence for Jaedong as well and the rest I just need to grow in value.
Ok, so HerO's gonna stay my captain forever because he rules. Bbyong only costs 2 but should be good enough to take wins so he should be worth it. Hyvaa is also good I think. I terribly regret having Jangbi on my anti team last round so I'm giving him another shot. Would be really happy to see him do well AND get points for it. Reality is solid and should be played in this format a lot if Khan is smart. Revival is a teamleague beast.
As for my anti team, I don't like Stork's decisionmaking from what I've seen but he'll probably play a lot. Just hoping he won't Jangbi me. Same goes for the other two.
Main Team 1 Acacia (captain) Tried the one point captain thing for a change. And KT points. And zerg for race completion.
5 herO[jOin] Honestly think herO is a steal for 5 points. Despite Hydra's great play, I can't imagine CJ won't use him as an ace here and there, plus he has great percentages in all matchups.
3 JYP I wanted a lower pick I thought would get a week 1 win, JYPvZ looks like it could be a good shot and could then be a potential quick trade next week.
4 Light Light has been playing really really well. WJS points at the minimum, and I needed a terran.
5 P7GAB(Wooki) Wooki was one of the best things in round 1. Back in this format I can't see him being a bad thing for 5 points.
8 sOs(Shy) Shy is my big pointer. Was debating whether to invest into one of the many WJS aces, but at the very least shy has been playing pretty freaking well and is a pretty safe thing.
4 Woongjin Stars And finally WJS. This team has really grown on me, and I think they're building the depth to really stay at the top. Plus I think they have the most chance of a 4-0 this week. Even their weaker starting players are really freaking good.
Anti Team 6 Jaedong Sorry JD fans, he's yet to impress me outside of ZvZ. And as my "higher" pointer I still think at 6 points he's just slightly overpriced.
3 Shine Shine hasn't got a good record in SPL. And Khan could very well struggle in this mode again.
4 Terminator(Sang) Terminator hurt my anti team a bit last time, but in the end only like -10 points which isn't "that" bad in my books. I think he''ll lose his week 1 match, but I also have this feeling I'm going to want to eventually trade him away since he'll probably be listed for every game Team 8 plays.
Eh i think i can propably do only better this season, did the no trade rule last season and it ended up being really bad for me (had Hydra AND Jangbi :D) This one I'll do lotsa trading with a friend, so hope this will turn out better :D Chose most players based on their Round 1 stats, as i dont believe the round 2 games meant much with no preperations etc. Thats why Action/Stats were a must have for me.
I feel Puma for 2 points is an insanely good deal for a different reason than most think -> Since 1 of each race has to be played in PL it means it will currently be always either Puma or Thorzain (since taeja is still injured/recovering?) Should have lots of chances to gain me some points, which i feel is nice for a 2 pointer.
Anti team, was really difficult - i wanted to put taeja and stephano on it so bad. Bad TL for ruining the fun
I tried really hard to choose my team based on the former rounds and came up with this, it was difficult to get exactly what i wanted, but i think it worked pretty well
So, after the second Round was a desaster for me, i hope that the third round will be a bit better. I still trust in KTs power, so 4 of them are in my main team. Wooki was good, stats was okay, crazy-hydra was okay too and miso....well, i just needed one terran on my team! :D Well, and my anti...Bogus wasn't soo good in the last weeks, Reality almost always lose and Light is another terran to complete the series. And obviously, i choose KT, cuz they are hopefully still the kings of the format! :D
Main Team 10 Flash (captain) It's Flash. 6 Jaedong JD FIGHTING. 4 soO He'll come around. 3 JYP Underrated and cheap but i think he's actually improving 3 Reality Once he learns how to TvP, he'll go big 2 Bisu I BELIEVE 2 EG.TL EG-TL FIGHTING
Anti Team 5 Dear Imho overrated, he wasn't THAT impressive when EG-TL handed him easy wins. 5 Soulkey There is only enough place for one MC, and thats the Bosstoss Jang Min Chul. 3 Trap We ain't playing cards here.
Well, last round i ended up in the bottom 100, let's see if i picked better now. At least i don't have Taeja as captain this time.
On January 27 2013 21:46 Morfildur wrote: Well, last round i ended up in the bottom 100, let's see if i picked better now. At least i don't have Taeja as captain this time.
well with that antiteam it seems highly unlikely that you'll get -20 3x... and your mainteam will most likely score more points so bottom 100 should be unachievable!
So I wanted to focus on good lower rated players, rather than two high rating with a bunch of lowbies. I used that tactic last round and while high value players scored decent for me the lowbie ones were really bad idea. With that experience behind my belt I looked for undervalued players and found some! But first things first. For captain I wanted a solid player that can appear as ace frequently. Effort seemed like a good choice, given his recent good form and CJ relying on him. Then I went for two steals at 5 points with Soulkey and herO. They were both valued 8 last round, did pretty decent, so I figure they will deliver this round even better. Light and JYP are solid players that will appear every round. Last but not least, Motive is starter in first KT game and I think has decent chance of beating soO, plus I think he might be the best choice out of the players available from 2 pointers. What you guys think?
For anti Stork seems really overvalued, Last isn't even on roster for round 1 and Shine might not even get to play, so they all seemed obvious choices to me.
My reasoning behind this team was, that in a tragic twist of circumstances every underperforming player would suddenly outclass the now slumping SKT and KT aces.
I don't dig Rains form lately, so I am taking a gamble for him on the anti team. Tried including some players that are mid-point tier but might make it in the ace match...
I still think eg/tl is not going to do to well, so there is my anti. Flash as captain is prety good. Chose action over wooki, cause everyone is going to pick wooki. And a bunch os WSJ players whos values will probably go up and i can trade them later.
It seemed as though some really good players were in fairly low ranks (e.g. Stats and hero[join] at 5 wtf), and the main point with the team is to be spread out in skill w/out one "flash" or "fantasy" to carry it. Also I'm praying to god that Baby doesn't come back into form, otherwise, I'm completely screwed
My reasoning behind this team was, that in a tragic twist of circumstances every underperforming player would suddenly outclass the now slumping SKT and KT aces.
Since you're obviously trying for the lowest score, shouldn't you have picked all 1 point players for your main team?
ZerO- I'm going to gamble on him being the highest performing player this round. And I can't afford flash Crazy-Hydra- A moderately good zerg on KT. Valued 3? What? Dear- is pretty good. Jaedong- Much like Dear, took an upturn near the end of last round. Kop- Diversifying teams + needed terran Revival- Another good zerg.
Ill be honest, i didnt have a lot of time to do my picks so i went with the old "pick the ones who scored high last round" strat. I wanted 3 high ranked players, one of each race, so Fantasy, Zero and Free. The others were decent scorers from the players i could afford. I wanted Bbyong because hes been in all my teams so far. SKT is a steal at 1, yes they have been underperforming, but with the level of their players they have the potential to blow most teams out of the water. Anti team i feel like JD hasnt been living up to the hype, and given that liquid have so many players who can ace i dont think he will be getting too many points. Watch him prove me wrong in the first game.
Where is Taeja btw? Saw him and stephano for 9 points and wouldve gladly had either of them on my anti for that price, couldnt pick them
EDIT: Just realised i shit the bed and had 2 players on my anti team who were playing each other week 1. Then noticed Dear is on a pretty hot streak at the moment, switched him out for baby.
All in on team 8 so hard TY/Argo/Cure rotation is pretty much guaranteed every time so if they win a decent amount of their matches I can definitely get some good points. P7GAB is another thing I've decided to invest in he was pretty damn good during round two and I think he can keep it. Bong seems decent for his price and acacia is there to soak up some KT point sand because I need a zerg.
Haven't really got much to say on anti-teams, sola beat stephano whoop whoop but I don't think it'll be all I see out of him as for jaedong and stats they seem pretty mediocre for their price.
Feels like a strong team, I was able to pick a whole team of hopefully strong mid-tier players plus a low priced SKT. Anti was more or less guesswork, I didn't see Last starting this week, Speed seemed too expensive and Sang, dunno.
I'm feeling the KT/SKT love so picked my favourite players(well some) from each. Barracks is just a point hoover. I got like 8 points or something from him in the first round even though he didn't play :p
My anti-team is going to bite me in the ass. I just know it.
Main Team 10 Flash (captain) Flash! Can he be stopped? At 10$ he is the most expensive player in Proleague, and with good reason! He has looked godly in Proleague so far, I see no reason he would stop winning. 6 Innovation(Bogus) This guy is... a little inconsistent? Made ro4 in GSL, then did fairly bad in Proleague just so he could suddenly all-kill 8th Team. Don't know if he will be the ace for STX or if Dear will, but I predict a Zenio shall be stomped in Innovations first match. 3 Bong[S.G] Has looked pretty good so far. All I need him to do is beat Reality. 1 MyuNgSiK Needed a 1 pointer. Is on KT. 1 PenguiN Needed another 1 pointer. Is on KT. Having two 1 pointers can't be good though... Whatever. 5 Soulkey The only guy who has been able to beat Life in forever, and in the ro16 last Code S, HE WENT 4-0 VS LIFE! Soulkey has skill in addition to playing Zerg. In a mini slump now, but I strongly believe we will see a lot of Soulkey in the months to come. Hope he will be consistent enough on a high level to give me tons of FPL points. 4 KT Rolster KT Rolster man.. They have been the best team in Proleague so far, hoping they will keep it up. Had some minor slip ups in Round 2, but now its back to the standard Proleague format they were so dominant in back in Round 1. KT Hwaiting!
Anti Team 7 free Did well in all-kill with a couple of stellar performances, its not all-kill any more and I think free will not do especially well in Round 3. 3 Last 3 pointer and doesn't play in the first week? Why not? 3 Shine Has not impressed me even a tiny little bit in SC2 yet. He will fall...
Work in progress, first draft. Kinda sucks that I haven't been able to catch much PL lately, so I find it hard to tell how the players are. Any thoughts/comments anyone? :D
Main Team 2 Classic Kind of a filler but i hope he can pick up some wins. He gets playtime. 7 Effort Effort was the bane of my antiteam last round. 5 herO[jOin] (captain) herO did well last round. 6 Innovation(Bogus) Decent terran that should get playtime and easy win round one. 1 Leta Filler spot. 5 P7GAB(Wooki) Played well for KT Rolster last round. 4 CJ Entus I think they have a strong lineup.
Anti Team 6 Cure(Speed) 5 Dear 2 Huk Aint gonna play, and if he does he looses.
Bbyong: Nobody, EVER, says he is overpriced. herO: 5 points is too low. He did very well in round one (same format). See Revival. Innovation: Had a rut and is therefore cheap enough for me to afford. See Revival. Revival: Always will be played for his team. Sacsri: Cheap and in the lineup! ZerO: My choice for ace. Might change.
Work in progress, first draft. Kinda sucks that I haven't been able to catch much PL lately, so I find it hard to tell how the players are. Any thoughts/comments anyone? :D
only thing would be soO, not sure if it's smart to put SKT's best zerg on your anti... but no idea who else and it's not like flash on your anti or something. Also the 1point captain is a personal thing, i understand why one would do it, but i hate it
8 Fantasy (captain): been my captain since R1, skillfully deserved 8 Hydra: another day-one pick. Better yet, he has risen to the ace position in CJ 5 Baby: kid might have been slumped lately but 5 points is still sorta cheap for such player. Regular format will suit him better. Still thinking about hero/wooki/SoulKey though
So with 8 pts left, I figure picking 4-2-2 or 3-3-2 would be best since almost all 1-pointer will not be played at all, hence not trade-able
4 Light: he has gained shape recently. Best 4-pointer there 2 Classic: he plays PuMa this week lol 2 Best: BeSt sucks, period. it's supposed to be skyhigh but I need a toss and Bisu/ParalyzE wont get much play time, so yeah. Seriously wtf is wrong with your protoss line BoxeR?
1 a no brainer
Anti Team
1 oDin: never be played, from team that doesnt feature in my main 7 HerO: he hurts me real bad in R2 but since it's normal SPL again, HerO ought to choke real hard 5 Stats: very risky to pick the undefeated R1 player but has has cooled down a bit in R2 and Rain is gonna smash him tomorrow.
Basically i'm counting on jaehoon only being good at all kill format. I have horrible experiences with shine on my team, so i banished him to my antiteam. Baby impressed me a lot in code s. He did not advance, and i know participating in code s brings certain weaknesses, but i take the risk. Taeja has disappointed as a captain (not entirely his fault), so hydra takes that spot, for no particular reason.
I haven't looked at the first matches yet, so this may not be very wise.
wasnt classic the guy that lost to thorzain or were they scheduled to play at one point and it wasnt needed? i cant recall, if so, then puma might win! EDIT:
On January 27 2013 23:02 Yorbon wrote: Basically i'm counting on jaehoon only being good at all kill format. I have horrible experiences with shine on my team, so i banished him to my antiteam. Baby impressed me a lot in code s. He did not advance, and i know participating in code s brings certain weaknesses, but i take the risk. Taeja has disappointed as a captain (not entirely his fault), so hydra takes that spot, for no particular reason.
I haven't looked at the first matches yet, so this may not be very wise.
Jaehoon/Argo got quite alot of points in round1 as well, about 15 if im not mistaken. He's prolly not worth the 8 points but he'll get quite alot of points i imagine. Also, shine is bad so antiteam is where he should go (imo)
This round is the most frightening for anti-teams so far. A lot of the higher ranked players are super good and any one of them could be the team toppler. I'm hoping free sits down and stays down...And I don't feel good about soO, but better than the other 4's. Bisu's inconsistent appearances make him the only "easy" pick on this Anti Team.
herO, Wooki, and Soulkey played like champs last round and I think they're undervalued. herO, despite not being the HerO of my heart, is deadly in the booth. Bbyong is a superb steal at 2, and Thorzain can win against Koreans in this format and the most likely foreigner to appear, at least for now. With those steals I suddenly had 11 points left, and without any decent nines, I suddenly had 10 points left for Flash. Awesome. I may end up trading him for Stephano later, depending on how he plays. But I believe the 5's are where the meat lies this round and can't wait to see it happen. I'm hedging my bets with STX, maybe they can nab a point or two. I would have preferred EGL, who are vastly underperforming with the talent they have, but alas, poor Yorrick, the're valued 2.
Main Team 3 Bravo(hon_sin) - 3 pointer, kind of a point filler, but has value from being in WJS and even getting to play for sure. Not necessarily the strongest part of my team. 3 Crazy-Hydra - Again, except I think CH is a steal at 3 points, he did well in round 1, is on a winning team and didnt get to play much in r2. Even with him playing fanta week 1, it should be ok. He is in the core of KT in this pl format. 10 Flash (captain) - By far the best player in PL right now, dont take my word for it, just look at the stats. He is 15-6 right now when the second place is solidly behind him and with more losses. He will not end the round with a negative set score, no way. Hence the captain and a pick i am most sure of. 5 P7GAB(Wooki) - Another good player from KT, who is not only underpriced at 5 but also has an easier opponent this week than other Ps (stats v rain / hero v jangbi), so a good deal overall. 6 Innovation(Bogus)- A 6 point guaranteed ace, or at least to a greater extent than other teams (bar KT ofc), at 6 points and i think he will do well this round. 2 sKyHigh- Seems like a good choice as a two point filler, who is likely to get playtime on a typically winning team, cant say that about other 2 pointers. 1 SK Telecom T1- We all know how they are doing at the moment, but i feel like they are bound to bounce back, they were after all a top team in this format in round, expect good things from them in the long run.
Anti Team 7 HerO - I dont know, nobody seems to have him on his anti, but i think he is overpriced in this format, i doubt he will get to play ace matches, and even if he does he is likely to lose given his nerve issues. Nothing personal, love the guy- but this is FPL. 2 Huk - No playtime / lose are the only two options out there for huk. Sad as it is, always a solid anti pick, has done well for me for the past two rounds. 4 Terminator(Sang) - Has had a decent start at round 2, but i think he is overpriced at 4, will not put many wins on the table for t8 imo.
Happy with my team, although its performance will largely depend on the performance of KT, thus increasing risk, though i am confident that extra returns will be worth it. I expect KT to crush.
On January 27 2013 23:11 Olex wrote: Horsehair Strike Team
This round is the most frightening for anti-teams so far. A lot of the higher ranked players are super good and any one of them could be the team toppler. I'm hoping free sits down and stays down...And I don't feel good about soO, but better than the other 4's. Bisu's inconsistent appearances make him the only "easy" pick on this Anti Team.
herO, Wooki, and Soulkey played like champs last round and I think they're undervalued. herO, despite not being the HerO of my heart, is deadly in the booth. Bbyong is a superb steal at 2, and Thorzain can win against Koreans in this format and the most likely foreigner to appear, at least for now. With those steals I suddenly had 11 points left, and without any decent nines, I suddenly had 10 points left for Flash. Awesome. I may end up trading him for Stephano later, depending on how he plays. But I believe the 5's are where the meat lies this round and can't wait to see it happen. I'm hedging my bets with STX, maybe they can nab a point or two. I would have preferred EGL, who are vastly underperforming with the talent they have, but alas, poor Yorrick, the're valued 2.
This is my first time ever playing Fantasy Proleague/GSTL, my choices are terrible and my team is going to sink like a ship, but here we go!
Also, quite a few of my picks were based on Round 1, seeing as this is the same format and not all-kill, though it has been a while... I did need something to base them on.
Main Team 5 Action Will most likely play every single match for KT. He plays against Sacsri in the first week and should be able to take the game. Only risk during the first week is KT actually winning the match before he gets to play. Out of the 5-point players he has the most overall points and the best average points/cost-ratio per round (3.70) across the first two rounds. 5 herO[jOin] Another core player for CJ with the possibility the play ace matches. Although his results in round 2 were lacking he still has a fairly decent points/cost ratio of 3.50... Opening match is a bit of a gamble but alas, you can never play without gambling. 5 P7GAB(Wooki) Same as the two players above, solid player with a medium cost. He should win his first game if nothing too crazy happens. Was kinda torn between him and Stats but the latter will go against Rain in the first match and I can still trade them after the first week. His average points/cost per round of 3.40 is slightly worse than that of his fellow KT protoss but still fairly good. 8 sOs(Shy) My only real heavy-hitter, another player who will play every single match and has a good chance at appearing as his team's ace. Out of the 8-point players he has the highest points/cost (2.81) and is placed third when it comes to points gained overall. I don't see him performing poorly. 5 Soulkey Yeah, this is a gamble... Although he will play every time aswell it's a huge question mark in which form he shows up this time around. While his points/cost-ratio of 3.40 is average among the 5-point players it's only due to his strong performance in the first round. The opening match for him will be against Cure which could go either way. 1 Swift (captain) Went for a WJS terran as the 1-point player since his team should win a good amount of matches and I don't really like to ride the KT-train. Needed a terran to meet the rules, appointed him as captain since trading 1-point players is almost never a good idea. 1 SK Telecom T1 Quite a steal for only 1 point. The team's point/cost ratio of 12.00 is more than twice as much as any other team. While I don't see them finishing this round as the top scoring team it should be enough to justify it.
Anti Team 3 Reality Didn't do too well in the previous rounds and should lose to Bong in his opening game. 3 s2 Same applies to him aswell. Opening match against Flash and only gained terrible 3 points during the second round. 7 Stork Another gamble, hooray! Overrated at 7 points and should lose to Hydra in his first game. After that I will trade him for TaeJa most likely, depending on the news coming from that direction. He could end up wrecking my anti-team though, just like he did last round :/
Main Team Crazy to go for really high point players seeing how a lot of players have improved and can take wins. A lot of good players at 3-5points, like a big smörgåsbord!
So theres a lot of players that you can pick, mine are done based on who I think will win their matches in Week1. But seeing how many players there are that could be good picks it's very possible that I may switch some players around, it's not about winning Week1 but actually winning in the end! So players like Classic thats pretty awful, if he don't meet another awful terran he won't be scoring any more points.
Anti Team
I'll just bite the bullet and try to get as few points possible, with so many good players at 4-5p I rather go for a choking big point player like HerO that hopefully don't even get to play in Week1.
And fill in with some so-so players, they will be changed or at least Bravo(hon_sin), seeing how he haven't played in the all-kill format he could just be a killing machine now in TvT and TvP.
I went for a much more well rounded team this round. Last round I had half "high value" players and half 3 or less. Quick thoughts-I have to many zergs for my liking lol, but between Zero and others my Antiteam got killed last round, if it wasn't for that I might have finished top 150. But really liking my team stat-wise, guess I'm just racist vs Zerg lol. Also, as many of you have pointed out, the anti team was really hard to chose this round, wish I could've picked taeja.
Main Well I'm a Stars fan so in every round I have tried to go for a WJS based team. I am happy that free[gm] did well because that meant that some other players' price was inflated a bit. It is hard to switch back to the normal PL round where you have to apply different logic when making your team.
This was the first round I left out Fanta. He's obviously the super-ace of SKT but I felt I am better with not splitting up my team, for now.
Light, BrAvO, and SoulKey are all a steal for their respective points I feel. I was thinking between choosing JangBi - Stork, both who are having a major resurrection, or ZerO, as my point-heavy star, and went with ZerO as he has been pretty consistant in all MUs, and in both rounds.
Dear was pretty cheap, and I wanted to have at least one other guy who plays on a weekly basis, and is a middle-ground player (I also was in dire need of a protoss after folding on Jangbi and Stork, and WJS only has superstars in that regard, or players with limited exposure, playtime).
Of course I am afraid I am overly dependant on one team, in my first round I had SKT (Fanta), STX (Bogus, Dear), and then some WJS, and even in the second round I kept going with Fanta and HoeJJa to have a more balanced distribution team-wise.
Anti
Ahh, this is always hard. I am basically trying to figure out which heavy hitter in the higher territory is (will) slump, and when choosing I remembered as if HerO was always losing recently.
The other two should just not play, and hopefully they'll deliver on that.
I had no heart in picking Bisu, but he's at least a safe trade if anything goes horribly wrong. (+ Shine's 1-6 is so ridicoulusly bad, I hope he's not gonna start playing well.)
My reasoning behind this team was, that in a tragic twist of circumstances every underperforming player would suddenly outclass the now slumping SKT and KT aces.
Since you're obviously trying for the lowest score, shouldn't you have picked all 1 point players for your main team?
No, because they never play which means they can't lose ^^
My reasoning behind this team was, that in a tragic twist of circumstances every underperforming player would suddenly outclass the now slumping SKT and KT aces.
Since you're obviously trying for the lowest score, shouldn't you have picked all 1 point players for your main team?
No, because they never play which means they can't lose ^^
not being in the lineup and losing ends in the same points total - 0. only the one that loses ace can get negative points (like shine did in R1, and someone else, forgot who)
First time round, I got exactly 2 points by the end. Second time, a bit more, but still ew.
This time I'm going for a more balanced team.
Main:
Dear because he has been impressing me the last week or two in All-kill format and for 5 points he's at a decent cost.
JYP as captain because I'm probably not going to trade him away and even if he were to flop, 3 points is not bad. He is a staple EGTL ace, and he does win now and again so he's good for 3 points.
Light gives me exposure to WJS that has a really strong PL line with Zero, Soulkey, sOs all being really good. Light's not bad as well, he's probably going to see a lot of play, and for 4 points it's cheap.
P7GAB is a good KT protoss. Gives me points when KT wins as I expect them to, and P7GAB can stand his own in any matchup as well. 5 points, decent cost.
Rain is good. He may have been on and off in All-kill format but he showed in Round 1 that he's an ace that never loses. I feel Fantasy needs work on his macro, (mass supply block) but Rain is solid and has showed that many times over. 8 points is good enough for me, I didn't choose Flash because he's worth 10 and honestly in PL format, Flash is as likely to win as Rain (i.e. approaching 100%).
soO is a solid SKT zerg that has saved SKT's ass many times and I don't know why he's 4 points, hell yes.
SKT1: 1 point for such a good team. Why not.
Anti:
Not going for Jangbi. Had him for Round 1 and much of Round 2, he likes to murder anti teams. I'm not touching him this time.
hyvaa: I had him on anti Round 2. He duly didn't score much. He's cheaper now at 3, but just as bad and I don't expect him to win this time round.
Shine: He's still at like 25% win rate in PL iirc, think he's 2-6 or something dismal like that. He's one of the worst 3 pointers.
Stork: 7 points? Why? He's still not very good at all and I don't think he's even got a 50% win rate yet. I had Stork on anti team and he hasn't scored much points either.
I think my team name says it all. I think I have six players who will play every week (perhaps wit the exception of an extremely cheap JYP and Teriminator) and three potential aces in Bogus, herO[join], and Soulkey. Unfortunately, all of my players are on different teams. Team choice was essentially a crap shoot.
Anti was much harder once I realized that TaeJa couldn't be selected (if he could, you'd be foolish not to take him). This made it a ton harder. I had JangBi in R1, which served me well, but he torched me in R2. I thought about putting Stork in, but I figured his team's been hot lately and used him sparingly in ace situations (but with JangBi, probably the same amount as Jaedong). He's also playing Hydra, who's on fire but Jaedong's playing Dear, so it pretty much cancels out. I think Bisu's an obvious inclusion as he's probably never going to see the booth again, while I think Action's overpriced. Unfortunately, his team is very good, so that could hurt.
I finished 21st or something in round 1 but really flopped in 2nd all kill round. This was mostly to Stats not getting the starting opportunity, and Soulkey really under performing. I also made huge mistake of putting wrong players in the anti-team such as HerO. For round 3, there are a lot of capable players that are very cheap. Main team was very easy to build compared to other seasons.
herO[join] is my captain because we all know he is a pretty good player and I never put expensive player as my captain. Fantasy is a no brainer for me. He can always be trusted and it is guaranteed he will play in the ace match (or Rain but Fantasy is more trustworthy) Crazy-Hydra is so dirt cheap at 3 pts that I had to grab him. He will get a start every match. Same with Best. Dirt cheap at 2 points and will probably get a start every match. Bogus at 6 pts is insane for the team's ace player. And Soulkey... The bane of my second round team. But I will put faith in him once again. He was pretty cheap too so there is no pressure like other seasons. I picked SKT because they're obviously only 1 point which is just crazy. Their price can only go up and they will do better in PL format with Fantasy, Rain almost guaranteed wins, and the likes of soO, Paralyze, Best will have to step up to get that one win. Will be hard for them to 4-0 anyone but buying them is worth it.
Anti team I will probably trade Argo for Taeja after first round.
we dont know when stephano and taeja become available for anti-team tho, that might well be later than the first round... its a risk you're free to take ofc, but i wouldn't make it.
Main Team 3 Bong[S.G] He's vs. Reality week 1, he can win that; after which I'll see how the week goes and see if I can trade up 3 Bravo(hon_sin) Woongjin Terrans are a thing of the past. I mean look at MVP, and Light's really good too! 2 Classic Wasn't sure who to get at 2 points, but Classic seems like a solid choice, since he'll be playing cause the STX roster doesn't have the depth to field 6 players other than Classic 5 Revival Revival is great at only 5 points, he's one of the best out there, why not get him! 5 Soulkey Obviously Soulkey is going to give value to the Stars, and continue the immense winning for us! 8 ZerO (captain) 4 Woongjin Stars ZerO and Woongjin have been my captain and team for so long, there's no way I'm going to change that right now, until they're worth too many points . I'm sure it'll happen soon enough, because they'll tear through everyone, but right now, they're staying. I think 1 time I even had ZerO at 9, and would probably get him at 10 too.
Anti Team 3 Last He won't do well, right ? 7 Stork It really pains me to put Stork in my anti-team; I want him to win so much (he's also the only player I picked to be my captain other than ZerO a few FPLs ago), but at 7 points, I'm going to assume Jangbi will be put out over Stork for all ACE matches, so it isn't that much of a point loss. I feel so bad putting him there, but I know he'll do well, just not 7 points well D:. 3 TRUE(Alone) See Last.
Main Team 3 hyvaa - STX main zerg is a steal for 3 points. Will surely get lots of playtime. 6 Innovation(Bogus) - I hope he's still STX Ace despite a weak all-kill season. 6 Jaedong (captain) - This is not a calculated choice. I've had Jaedong as my captain 12 seasons in a row and I'm not going to chance it now. He could very well get the Ace role when Stephano and Taeja is away. 5 P7GAB(Wooki) - I can't really decide between Wooki and Stats. Will probably switch them around a bit before season starts. Wooki has the easiest first week opponent though. 4 soO - He got lots of playtime from SKT last season even though he didn't perform that well. If Boxer believes in him he can't be that bad. 5 Soulkey - Was overshadowed by Zero in WJS last season, but I've always considered Soulkey to be a better player. Might get the Ace role. 1 SK Telecom T1 - Great players but have been under-performing. They should catch a break this season and 1 point is ridiculously low, especially when Parting is joining.
Anti Team 8 Argo(Jaehoon) - I think last seasons great run was kind of a fluke, He's always struck me as a good but not great mid-tier player and 8 pts is overvalued. 2 Major - Haven't heard from him since he joined T8. Never been sent out before, probably wont be sent out again. 3 Last - Not sent out first week. Will probably trade him later as he's actually a pretty decent player.
Comments As a zerg player I have always had a lot of zergs. Lots of players with Ace chances this time.
I'm guessing Bogus as main player, SKT as team and Jaehoon as an antipick will be the most popular picks this season.
I think my team name says it all. I think I have six players who will play every week (perhaps wit the exception of an extremely cheap JYP and Teriminator) and three potential aces in Bogus, herO[join], and Soulkey. Unfortunately, all of my players are on different teams. Team choice was essentially a crap shoot.
Anti was much harder once I realized that TaeJa couldn't be selected (if he could, you'd be foolish not to take him). This made it a ton harder. I had JangBi in R1, which served me well, but he torched me in R2. I thought about putting Stork in, but I figured his team's been hot lately and used him sparingly in ace situations (but with JangBi, probably the same amount as Jaedong). He's also playing Hydra, who's on fire but Jaedong's playing Dear, so it pretty much cancels out. I think Bisu's an obvious inclusion as he's probably never going to see the booth again, while I think Action's overpriced. Unfortunately, his team is very good, so that could hurt.
I know what you mean, I almost have the same exact team,
That being said, this team looks too good to be true, basically every player I have is a possible ace, and if theres anything I learned from round 1, its better to have a good all round team than to put all your chips in 2-3 players and then have 1-2 fillers. Now every player that I have on my roster has a legitimate chance to win every time they play, which is very important.
Main Team 5 Action Solid Zerg 2 Flying This guy will be sent out 8 JangBi (captain) KHAN ftw 1 Kop Race and KHAN point 5 Revival He can beat anyone at his best 7 Stork KHAN ftw 2 Samsung Khan KHAN ftw
Main Team 8 Fantasy (captain) - I'm a fan. 5 herO[jOin] - 5 points, well rounded. 5 P7GAB(Wooki) - 5 points, well rounded. 2 sKyHigh - My only uncertain pick, could go either way. 4 soO - soO fighting! 5 Soulkey - Well ZerO was too expensive. Well rounded 5 points. 1 SK Telecom T1 - 1pt?! This isn't all-kill format, they're gonna crush.
Anti Team 3 hyvaa - One of the weaker 3 pointers. 3 Shine - One of the weaker 3 pointers. 7 Stork - Without all-kill format I think he's over priced.
I was pretty sure KT would be a middling team before this season started, and so I only really invested in Flash because I'm a huge fan. Seeing their performance in Round 1, though (and Wooki's in round 2), I decided to give an all-KT team a go. Is this wise? Probably not. But KT most certainly tore everything up in Round 1, and if they can maintain that level or performance in round 3, this team shouldn't be all that terrible. Also, SKT for 1 point. I'll take it.
As for my anti-team, I like free but I still can't help but feel that his all-kill was somewhat of a fluke - decent plays from him combined with ridiculous build order wins and chokes from the opposing team. Last has been somewhat lackluster, and I don't know how much Bong will get to play - and even if he does get play time, he's still among the weaker players that are likely to be sent out on a regular basis.
Yes I picked Flash despite him costing 10 points, but he really hasn't been doing much other than being a complete boss lately so I feel confident in the pick. I really think Best at 2 points is a hilariously good deal, same with Revival on 5. Most of my picks is just me whoring out EGTL as much as possible really.
I didn't really think much about my antiteam picks, I'm kinda counting on Flash doing well enough to counteract any antiteam drawbacks,
Had to pick up Flash this time, I think he's really hitting his stride in Starcraft 2, and with his recent interview saying he loves TvZ, it makes him more valuable than ever. Terminator is almost always thrown out, so atleast he'll have a lot of play time. Jaedong and Stephano are aces for EGTL and they need wins desperately. Picked up a supporting cast of Flying, Mind, and Leta. I feel like the only valuable one was Flying but oh well.
As for anti-team, I've seen Bravo play maybe once and wasn't impressed. Very frustrated with Revival, he cost my team last round. I can feel Action is going to bite me in the ass.
R3 gogo! And just now remembering it is no longer all-kill format! woo!
Anti Team 3 Bong[S.G] 3 Bravo(hon_sin) 7 Stork Just picked all the mid-point players who I felt were undervalued. As for the anti-team, was going to go with free instead of Stork, but didn't want to have two Woongjin players on the anti-team. EDIT: Went with my gut and swapped Stork out for free anyway.
I was really impressed with both Bong and AfroToss's PvP skills, especially Afro! So I had to pick up both this round and make Afro my captain as a sign of respect, hopefully karma will reward me, as I have him Who wouldn't want Flash and Jaedong on the same team, it had to be done. JYP, my team will be in need of a teddy bear for those nights when things don't turn out as we had planned. Sang/Term is just a solid pick. And bong, well he's getting fired up this season, that's for damn sure.
First of all, I created an excel file, where I did some research. I was mostly looking for winrates and effectivity per point. If you want to check the excel, just go here. I used stats only from 2012/2013 Proleague - from both rounds. I went for this, because I think this is very different from R1. In R1 nobody knew how strong exactly are kespa players gonna be and we didn't have any stats. At the start of this round, we have quite a few matches already played, so we have an idea. And of course, stats are gonna be useful for this. It is also much harder to pick underrated players now. On the other hand, there seem to be quite a few overrated ones. I don't like guys like Stork, Jangbi, Jaehoon, Free, RorO costing as much as they do. Problem with them is, they can win over anybody, but can also lose to anybody. It is a risk putting them on both places - main team or anti-team because of that. Therefore I decided I won't be going for any of them (or anyone, who plays against them for that matter) and I came up with this:
Main Team
Bravo(hon_sin) is a steal at 3 points. He didn't play at all R2, cause Stars have too stacked of a lineup but he will hopefully see a lot of play this round and pick up where he left off, meaning 4W 2L. For mere 3 points, I don't think there's too much of better choices.
JYP is there mostly because of matchup. hyvaa just doesn't live up to his MLG vs Proleague results. Combine that with JYP's strong PvZ and this seems like a good pick. Interestingly, after hOn_sin JYP is the guy with the best winrate and per point effectivity from 3 pointers.
P7GAB(Wooki) is pretty good pick at 5 points imo. Great winrate, big effectivity. And he plays BeSt in his first match, which he should win. BeSt doesn't seem like he is fully used to SC2 yet (still 4th best on SKT though) and Wooki's PvP is excellent.
Action is another pretty good 5 pointer. Just like the last round, where there was a lot of amazing 3 pointers, this round it seems like 5 pointers are the way to go if you want a solid team with not too much of true aces, but also no 1 or 2 pointers who won't win (if they even play). Interestingly enough, most of them are from KT. I will probably try to trade him later on (depending on the matchups), but I believe he should be able to take down sacsri in first match.
Stats is my captain and I hope I won't regret this pick. He just seems like the most solid of the bunch, even though he has to play Rain first match. He still has the biggest winrate in Proleague and he also has one of the best per-point effectivity (of course, the "most effective" are those 2 pointers who played 2 matches and won 1, but who would want them). I just hope Stats will work hard in order to show us good games :p.
And finally, ZerO is my "Ace" pick. He is becoming the best zerg on Stars over Soulkey, which is a good feat in itself. He also has favourable (I think) first match and I am definitely looking to trade him depending on the results and next week schedule. From the other 8 pointers - I don't want JangBi, RorO, Jaehoon for the reasons I stated above and from the rest I think ZerO has the most favourable first match. I would go with Hydra, but Stork can actually beat him (just as easily as he can lose).
For the team pick I went with SK Telecom T1, just because they are actually much better then 1 point... If I had points to spare, I would probably go for KT, but I don't.
Anti Team
Yeah, I know I said I don't want anyone like free (or anyone who plays against Jaehoon) near my team, but I just couldn't come up with anything for anti and I actually think free is pretty overrated. I wanted to go with Bogus, but he has a free win against Zenio, so that would not be a good idea. I am basically coin-flipping, if free wins I am pretty much screwed, if he loses I will probably be able to trade him for someone more predictable. And Jaehoon had pretty good PvP today.
Last - 3 points, doesn't play 1st match and basically cannot win anything since OSL. Also from STX. Solid pick for anti, imo.
s2 plays Flash first round. nuff said. (Also I don't see him getting too much play for SKT1, he will be part of a rotation imo, hopefully he doesn't win at all...)
So yeah, I hope this time I will just do better then last round. Feel free to use the excel linked above for your own teams ;-)
not yet sure for anti-team, regardless of how well he did, I don't think stork will perform (might switch for Free - his Rnd2 run was miraculously shaky even though he won alot.
Baby.... you keep losing since Rnd1 don't comeback plz
Snow, he's a 1 pointer and a horrible BW and Sc2 player. never liked him. I always put him on anti when I can
Last sRound having JangBi on my anti-team screwed me over so I'm hoping that this round rain will only do so-so and that my main team can really pull through :D
I did terrible the last two rounds, so I will just give the 1p captain thing a chance. Not sure how I feel about it though, there are so many good 4/5p players this round, it would be so easy to creat an all-round good team. The only player I'm not really sure about is Soulkey. He did pretty bad last round, but this preparation based format will probably suit him better and he should still be an ace option for WJS. Maybe I'll switch him with herO or some other 5p protoss. Major probably won't be played at all this round, so he's pretty safe for anti. Last doesn't play this week and he hasn't done that good in the past. Jaehoon is a gamble, but I don't feel he's worth the 8 points, but we'll see. Pretty much all the high-value players are doing just fine right now, so it's hard to choose.
Main Team 3 Bong[S.G] kind of banking on Bong to make it this season, this is my gamble 3 Crazy-Hydra was on my r2 but didnt post results, was supposed to pick hydra 5 P7GAB(Wooki) could only pick Wooki since Stats is also 5 points 8 Rain Hoping he does well in this format if not Im screwed 2 sKyHigh (captain) cant have Light as terran this round coz he is so expensive 5 Soulkey had zero r2 so I hope he does well for 5points. 4 KT Rolster
Let me show you how to hop on the KT Rolster train.
Flash has always been the captain of the my teams, no need to explain. Action puts in work. When KT was having trouble in round 2, Action and Flash were the ones to carry the team. Picked Stats over Wooki, Stats is really good in this kind of PL format. Crazy, even though he might get bodied by Fantasy today, he was a steal at 3points. Hoejja, Hitman, and Mind might see some play, I hope they get a couple of random wins.
Anti-Team is T8, I just hope it doesn't backfire. Baby has been looking shaky in Pro League lately, Major will probably not play this round. Cure is definitely a risk, I hope he doesn't kill my anti team.
Obviously, I put all my eggs in one basket. Oh well....
On January 28 2013 02:43 ROOTT1 wrote: i dunno if i should go for classic + woojing or a 5 pointer + skt1/stx, any suggestions? the 5 pointer crop is stacked
5 pointer. Looking at the first week lineups it looks so even that I doubt teams will make the difference this round. Most of those matches look like 4-2 or 4-3.
Main Team 5 Action i had action troughout all round and did well in both 8 Fantasy (captain) took fantasy because he is the better cost/point ratio imo 6 Innovation(Bogus) another great player did well last round 2 Motive for some KT point and with how kt used him during first round he could be send out a couple of time, with a 4-4 record it can be a good bet for 2 point 5 P7GAB(Wooki) good toss for kt will obv be send out many time, and great player 3 Reality khan seem to send him out more in the last part of round 2, so why not pick him 1 SK Telecom T1 skt did really well in round 1 and for only 1 point you cant say no to that
Anti Team 3 Shine always been bad 7 Stork sorry stork but you didnt convice me during round 2 and i needed a some what hight point in my anti-team 3 TRUE(Alone) not sure how he will go be im not sure how often he gona be sent out
Flash - Is God.. Nuff said... HyuK - obligatory 1 point pick hoping SKT wins and gets some free points.. Bogus - 6 points? Oh fuck the hell yes. Wooki - Been playing damn well recently. I expect him to get a good amount of matches as well. Reality - My low point darkhorse pick. I think he is gonna kick some serious ass this round! SoO - I'm not really sure on soO yet.. He at times seems like a solid pick but I just don't now.. debating dropping him for lower points and grabbing some one else. Any one got any advice?
My anti team.. Once again I can't fucking get Stephano xD I've wanted him on my anti every damn round... Last round I grabbed sHy to start(Was same PV as Stephano) With the intention of trading him after week one to get Stephano.. He then went on a rampage and upped his value so I couldn't trade him for anyone T.T
Jaedong - Filler pick for now, Hope he might lose his first game then I can trade him up for Stephano Revival - Fairly high PV, not sure how he is going to do. Zenio - Has been on my anti team every round and been great for me there(Sorry Zenio I love you but I like winning more..)
For my anti I really had no clue who to pick. If I could have gotten Stephano would have been much easier, then I would have grabbed Mini from STX and felt confident. Now I have to have to high point guys in Jaedong and Revival.. I'm probably going to be doing a shit ton of switching around on my anti team before the deadline closes...
On January 28 2013 02:43 ROOTT1 wrote: i dunno if i should go for classic + woojing or a 5 pointer + skt1/stx, any suggestions? the 5 pointer crop is stacked
5 pointer. Looking at the first week lineups it looks so even that I doubt teams will make the difference this round. Most of those matches look like 4-2 or 4-3.
only thing is classic is playing puma in w1 and woojing has a good shot at 4-0ing t8, problem is i dunno if its easier to trade up for a player rather than a team. anyone know which one of the 2 accumulates value faster? right now im looking at classic + woojing vs 5pointer(hero[join] most likely seeing as i already have soulkey and wooki on my team) and stx because im pretty sure skt1 is gonna lose to kt
On January 28 2013 02:43 ROOTT1 wrote: i dunno if i should go for classic + woojing or a 5 pointer + skt1/stx, any suggestions? the 5 pointer crop is stacked
5 pointer. Looking at the first week lineups it looks so even that I doubt teams will make the difference this round. Most of those matches look like 4-2 or 4-3.
only thing is classic is playing puma in w1 and woojing has a good shot at 4-0ing t8, problem is i dunno if its easier to trade up for a player rather than a team. anyone know which one of the 2 accumulates value faster? right now im looking at classic + woojing vs 5pointer(hero[join] most likely seeing as i already have soulkey and wooki on my team) and stx because im pretty sure skt1 is gonna lose to kt
Classic lost even to Thorzain though, so no surprises if Puma beats him. And then you are stuck with Classic on your team for the rest of the round...
Well Classic and Woongjin will certainly win, but I don't see it as a 4-0 as sets 3-5 could go either way IMO. Spending 5 points on a team is expensive when even the better teams produce only about 15 points in a round. I think player is the better choice if you are confident in your trading abilities.
On January 28 2013 02:43 ROOTT1 wrote: i dunno if i should go for classic + woojing or a 5 pointer + skt1/stx, any suggestions? the 5 pointer crop is stacked
5 pointer. Looking at the first week lineups it looks so even that I doubt teams will make the difference this round. Most of those matches look like 4-2 or 4-3.
only thing is classic is playing puma in w1 and woojing has a good shot at 4-0ing t8, problem is i dunno if its easier to trade up for a player rather than a team. anyone know which one of the 2 accumulates value faster? right now im looking at classic + woojing vs 5pointer(hero[join] most likely seeing as i already have soulkey and wooki on my team) and stx because im pretty sure skt1 is gonna lose to kt
Classic lost even to Thorzain though, so no surprises if Puma beats him. And then you are stuck with Classic on your team for the rest of the round...
thats the name of the game bro, u have to take a few risks in order to have the most profitable team. 4 points for a team that can potentially bring in 20+++ pts is really good value -_-
edit: im just wondering if ill be able to trade classic for a 3pter if he wins his w1 match
Main Team 5 Dear - Really good protoss, definitely worth 5 points 6 Innovation(Bogus) (captain) - SUPER undervalued at 6 points imo 3 JYP - I think he'll win his match and JYP has always been good in teamleagues 2 Motive - KT's secret gosu, I think he has a good chance of taking out soO 5 P7GAB(Wooki) - He's really awesome, is on KT, and is vs. BeSt in his first match lol... 5 Revival - Is up against Trap in his first match, has a lot of experience with SC2 4 Woongjin Stars - I expect them to beat T8 4-1 or 4-2, they're also just a really good team overall
On January 28 2013 03:17 HwangjaeTerran wrote: Well Classic and Woongjin will certainly win, but I don't see it as a 4-0 as sets 3-5 could go either way IMO. Spending 5 points on a team is expensive when even the better teams produce only about 15 points in a round. I think player is the better choice if you are confident in your trading abilities.
e. Last round Woongjin made me only 16 points.
It's only 3 points between the highest and lowest rated teams, so I don't know how you're spending 5 points on a team... IMO WJS is worth it for how stong they're looking, and this format should suit them the best.
I think the points distribution among players was a lot better this round than last. Got some good pickups in Stats, herO, and Bbyong for relatively cheap. Picking Anti Teams is really hard though >_< Good luck all!
I couldn't decide between JYP and Crazy-Hydra. On the one hand, I think Crazy-Hydra is the better player. On the other hand, JYP has a way better first matchup. Plus, I have Fanta on my main team.
Bbyong- Your telling me I can get a Code A Terran for 2 points? GIMME. Speed- Dude is blossoming, wrecked face last year and I am super glad I traded him off my anti after 1 week. Bogus- Hasn't been that great, but ro4 in the GSL? For 6 points. Plus he's the team's Ace in a number of cases, which is very good. Afrotoss- Loved his play last round especially in a PvZ on ohana where I thought he had great understanding of the late game. Expecting a potential breakout. Rain- Yay people are starting to decrease his value! I love this guy and his play and I'm seriously hoping he brings that championship form back. Revival- Scored a bunch of points for me last round, and appears to be getting a lot of playing time. Telecom T1- I know they haven't been that good, but 1 point for serious? I had to pick Telecom when I saw that.
I originally wanted to go with a bunch of 4-6 players, but when I saw that a Code A terran was available for 2 points, remembered how much Paralyze impressed me, and realized I could essentially get 2 aces on my team with this setup I jumped at the chance.
My Anti-Team.
Seems to be a tradition for me to put Jaedong on my anti, because I don't think he's going to be in the same condition in a not Kespa training regiment, he will probably be attending more foreign tourneys than hes ever done and that will throw him off.
soO- I had him on my main team last round and then watched in agony as he banked 4k gas while building only roach-ling against an opponent who had committed to immortal/sentry based play on 2 base. After I saw that absurd display, I knew he was going on my anti this round.
TRUE- Don't know anything about this guy, but I don't remember him playing much. Hopefully this doesn't bite me.
Sola/Bbatta stood out because he managed to take a game from a very famous and skilled player (Stephano), Jangbi had some nice things to say about him in the interview, and he's on a team that's on the rise. Afrotoss (Paralyze) is sitting on a 3-3 record from round 2, and overall has pulled a few nice wins, over Action, Bogus, Shy. and herO. I believe soO as a player and SKT will rebound from a horrible round 2, and they are both very cheap.
For the expensive players, I was really surprised by Cure's performance round 2, and he was very solid round 1 as well. He's relatively cheap at 6. If he hadn't missed a game due to traffic, HerO would have been 6-2 this round, one of the absolute best records. With Taeja sidelined due to injury, I think HerO will step up to ace role quite often, especially since JYP keeps disappointing. Finally, Jangbi's stock just keeps going up and up, and it looks like Samsung is really on an upward trend.
For the anti-team, Baby is a big risk since he did so well in round 1, but the numbers show he was (with Taeja) the most overrated player of round 2 (cost=8, points gained=3!), and given that you need 13 points to fill an anti-team, you have to take a risk somewhere. Similarly, Jaedong was only sent out twice, and was not too impressive at 2-2. Finally, I was able to afford a cheap 3rd player. I picked Classic, who has a losing record (he even lost to a foreigner!) on a losing team (STX).
Stork is on the rise and could easily make 20pts in a round, but still at 7 he is an anti team favorite over other options. Shine is still surprisingly bad in SPL, Alone is not worth the cost of 3.
On main team, just all are solid players of low price for the performance. Other good candidates: hon_sin, Stats, Action. About KT vs Stars, I am just going with my favorite team here out of bias, even though my analysis still gives KT a slight edge.
I found it funny how the total cost of my previous team was 40 points. still cant believe hydra was worth 3 points that round but anyway...
Firstly, Flash. He's Flash. Pick justified. He IS the shrine. Number two. Bogus. Look at his past history, all his losses were against very good opponents. He beats up on anyone mid-tier. Zenio is going to get whomped this round. He's also STX's Ace. Good to have two ace's on your team. Number three. Light. Light's specialty: TvZ. Light's victim? True. I laughed at that match up. Easy win for Light. Also Woongjin. He's #1 Terran. He's going to get sent out. Number four: JYP. Bombed last round. However that's because Flash sucked all the confidence out of him by completely trashing him in the EG-TL/KT match. he never looked the same again. But he's good at PvZ, I'll give him that. Hyvaa is struggling to perform and looks like a one-hit wonder as someone who was mid-tier in SC:Bw just because of his muta usage. Number Five: Motive. Because Shrine Dont Lie. Also he has a pretty good chance I will say against soO. I had soO on my previous round. He did not look good. Also Synchronization. Number Six: Acacia. Because I needed a zerg. Also Shrine dont lie. Also Synchronization.
Team: KT. Because KT Rolster is the best team in SPL bar none. And they're going to lay a whomping on SKT T1 to begin round 3 (Although I am not convinced on Wooki and still think he sucks).
Anti Team: Stork because...he's still adjusting and I dont think he cares much of sc2 in all honesty. Also he has a hard first match up compared to HerO and Free. Also Samsung Khan is a terrible team that only did well last round because Roro and Jangbi carried them hard.
Last: Because STX is a terribad team. Also Last is the CJ Snow such that he went from top of the hill to the bottom in a big splash. Amazing.
Trap: Trap worked for me in round 1. He worked for me in round 2. He's going to work for me in round 3.
Bbyong- Your telling me I can get a Code A Terran for 2 points? GIMME. Speed- Dude is blossoming, wrecked face last year and I am super glad I traded him off my anti after 1 week. Bogus- Hasn't been that great, but ro4 in the GSL? For 6 points. Plus he's the team's Ace in a number of cases, which is very good. Afrotoss- Loved his play last round especially in a PvZ on ohana where I thought he had great understanding of the late game. Expecting a potential breakout. Rain- Yay people are starting to decrease his value! I love this guy and his play and I'm seriously hoping he brings that championship form back. Revival- Scored a bunch of points for me last round, and appears to be getting a lot of playing time. Telecom T1- I know they haven't been that good, but 1 point for serious? I had to pick Telecom when I saw that.
I originally wanted to go with a bunch of 4-6 players, but when I saw that a Code A terran was available for 2 points, remembered how much Paralyze impressed me, and realized I could essentially get 2 aces on my team with this setup I jumped at the chance.
My Anti-Team.
Seems to be a tradition for me to put Jaedong on my anti, because I don't think he's going to be in the same condition in a not Kespa training regiment, he will probably be attending more foreign tourneys than hes ever done and that will throw him off.
soO- I had him on my main team last round and then watched in agony as he banked 4k gas while building only roach-ling against an opponent who had committed to immortal/sentry based play on 2 base. After I saw that absurd display, I knew he was going on my anti this round.
TRUE- Don't know anything about this guy, but I don't remember him playing much. Hopefully this doesn't bite me.
afrotoss pvz on ohana shouldnt be a good indicator. it is know that it is P favored. no wonder teams always sent toss on this map.(and they removed it from the map pool)
On January 28 2013 04:08 TheDougler wrote: I couldn't decide between JYP and Crazy-Hydra. On the one hand, I think Crazy-Hydra is the better player. On the other hand, JYP has a way better first matchup. Plus, I have Fanta on my main team.
Struggled with this as well. Still debating. Crazy-Hydra goes well with my picks of Acacia/Motive/Flash and KT Rolster team and allows me to cheer them on even more. JYP is a very good PvZ specialist and will see more floor time in the rounds because of it.
JYP made more FPL points than Crazy-Hydra in both Round 1 and Round 2. I forgot to mention him above in my post actually, but he is one of the top cost-efficient picks at the moment. Crazy-Hydra is a very good pick too, of course. He is one of those players that the FPL staff traditionally undervalues. (since BW)
Main: I really wanted to try and play economically and avoid 7+er (with the exception of HerO but I couldn't find a way to trade him in that satisfied me which is why I chose EG-TL). -Bbyong is a steal for 2. I had him last round and he did okay but for 2 points he's a good value choice. -Cure(Speed) is T8's primary Ace. 6 points for a decent player who could win me ace matches = im in. -herO[jOin] hasn't been doing so well but for 5 points I'm willing to wager that he'll bounce back soon. -There's no question Innovation(Bogus) is good. He made it pretty far in the GSL last season (semi-finals if I recall correctly). He is also quite likely to be STX's Ace. Same logic applies as with Cure. -Since i started watching Proleague in R1, I liked P7GAB(Wooki) a lot. His play is solid and I think he hasn't even lived up to his true potential yet. The Wooki All-kill in last round just bolsters the number of reasons why I should choose him. Another awesome value (soo many good 4-6 players this round!) -soO is pretty good. Probably 3rd in the SKT1 line of aces, He was good during the MLG ToC invitational and although SKT1 players have been slumping lately, if he gets out of it I think he'll do fine. I would have gone with Light but I needed a Zerg.
Anti: I had Dear on my main last round. He didn't do so well until the very end. Hoping he continues this trend. Last is a so-so player. STX in general hasn't been doing so well and Last hasn't done anything exceptional for them. Minimal team gains hopefully. You'd expect TY(Baby) to do better but lately he has been loosing A LOT.
Ugh, I don't even want to try. I do much better in all-kill format (despite a terrible terrible anti-team featuring JangBi).
KT is just so strong in PL format. Everything else...I just picked players whom I thought would play a lot. I might switch the captain to Stats but I don't plan on changing much else, unless a detailed guide pops ups before registration closes. Anti-team...I'm still not comfortable with how an anti works so I figured I'd pick someone who'll get me a lot of negative points, but the other two will most likely not gain me much other than when they show up. Yeah, pretty much it.
After the abysmal results of the last two FPLs, I decided to throw caution and reason to the winds and go with the heart. Neo.G_Soulkey and Light[aLive], I'm sorry I ran out of points. <3
My anti-team, though, was made by picking random players who I think will be over-priced for the regular format. So I'm not sure what I'm doing here - please advise.
On January 28 2013 04:57 VGhost wrote: After the abysmal results of the last two FPLs, I decided to throw caution and reason to the winds and go with the heart. Neo.G_Soulkey and Light[aLive], I'm sorry I ran out of points. <3
My anti-team, though, was made by picking random players who I think will be over-priced for the regular format. So I'm not sure what I'm doing here - please advise.
A like to be a little more balanced for my Anti. Like, rather than choosing a 7+ player on the anti who will likely be an Ace and get a lot of points that way (e.g. Effort) and then 2 low pointers, go for maybe like 2 overvalued 5ers and a bad 3 player or something like that.
On January 28 2013 04:55 Ry2D2 wrote: -Cure(Speed) is T8's primary Ace. 6 points for a decent player who could win me ace matches = im in.
not sure about that, think they'll still take TY over Cure anyday and also possibly Argo. By my knowledge, he's the 3rd ace on that team. Doesnt change the fact that Cure is a very good player!
Gahhh I just can't decide between soO and Sang I keep bouncing back and forth between them... soO seems like he has the potential t be a solid player who gets put in the line up a fair bit... But his results seem to be fairly inconsistent at best :S.. Not sure how I really feel about Sang either...
Poll: soO Or Sang on main?
soO (7)
78%
Terminator(Sang) (2)
22%
Neither? (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: soO Or Sang on main?
(Vote): soO (Vote): Terminator(Sang) (Vote): Neither?
After Chux Team got slaughter in R2 here comes a new edition!
I think it's time to have a low value team and give oportunities to more balanced players. (And to bisu (come ON!)). With one slot left, my hearth picked Major, but I don't think he will be playing a lot. The anti was to hard to pick this time so i picked HerO ( who i think doesn't quite suit in the normal format), hyvaa ( well .. he doesn't play to often) and Bravo (who is this guy?).
Got completely raped in both rounds 1 and 2 by my own biases. Had Jangbi on antiteam round 2 when he started going crazy and destroying people, had Jaehoon on my anti round 1. Hopeing to avoid this tragedy of picking undervalued protosses who come out of nowhere and win when they shouldn't this time around.
I decided KT will make a comeback this round and return to former glory.
Did really bad in round 2, I picked with my heart. At least this time I looked at some stats before picking. I definitely want to try and be more proactive between matches to trade some. Good luck all.
Big believer in Woongjin Stars, they are very deep and I could see them getting a lot of 4-0s and 4-1s
Captain Motive - trying out the low point captain strat, plus hes seeing play time in round 1 and I think he will be fielded more frequently as KT's 6th player. Also KT points Effort - hes really ramping up his performance lately, even getting a few vP wins and has ace potential, plus I was a fan of his play in BW so I want to have him on my team Wooki - he has had very strong play when he is sent out, plus his round 1 is vs a Protoss and he is a PvP sniper Soulkey - still not sure on this pick, his play has faltered lately but he still has had strong results in the past and he has ace potential. Might trade him for herO[jOin] though, any thoughts on that? Light - Hes been fairly strong and I think he will continue his trend of good play, plus Woongjin points hOn_sin - he was a strong player in Round 1 for Woongin, and I think he will continue the trend. Has strong vT, havent seen a game of his vZ though so thats a bit worrisome. Still Woongjin points
Stork is my big pointer on anti, His vT is strong but his other mu's seem relatively weak and I could see him losing a bit more this round, and I dont see Samsung doing as well out of allkill format. Hes the one I'm debating the most though, any ideas on who else might be good here? Shine and hyvaa have really under performed and seem like locks for anti imo
I went with Frotoss as my captain since he has like no trade value and is simultaneously the man. Like I said: Frotoss is bestoss. I decided to pass on the SKT 1-point deal cause I think KT is going to absolutely destroy this round. At first I was trying to get a good mix of teams represented on my main team, but really with trying to balance cost vs apperances vs skill levels I ended up with basically all SKT and KT players, and Zenio. The way I see it, if things start to go sour, I've set myself up well to trade away to better players/teams going with Flash and KT on my main team.
Stork has started to wake up a bit and do well in round two with the new format, but I think he still has a ways to go before he really gets back to the top, and I'm hoping to use his 7-point cost to fill up my anti team while he is still under-performing. We'll see though, and he's got a decent trade value in that he's only 7, not an 8 or 9, so I do have some outs.
Anyway, here's to not being negative this round in FPL!!!! Cheers, GLHF
Edit: Somehow I missed that I had a perfect racial split of 1:1:1 on my anti and Main teams. Way to go me for not being a SC2 racist.
Bbyong- Your telling me I can get a Code A Terran for 2 points? GIMME. Speed- Dude is blossoming, wrecked face last year and I am super glad I traded him off my anti after 1 week. Bogus- Hasn't been that great, but ro4 in the GSL? For 6 points. Plus he's the team's Ace in a number of cases, which is very good. Afrotoss- Loved his play last round especially in a PvZ on ohana where I thought he had great understanding of the late game. Expecting a potential breakout. Rain- Yay people are starting to decrease his value! I love this guy and his play and I'm seriously hoping he brings that championship form back. Revival- Scored a bunch of points for me last round, and appears to be getting a lot of playing time. Telecom T1- I know they haven't been that good, but 1 point for serious? I had to pick Telecom when I saw that.
I originally wanted to go with a bunch of 4-6 players, but when I saw that a Code A terran was available for 2 points, remembered how much Paralyze impressed me, and realized I could essentially get 2 aces on my team with this setup I jumped at the chance.
My Anti-Team.
Seems to be a tradition for me to put Jaedong on my anti, because I don't think he's going to be in the same condition in a not Kespa training regiment, he will probably be attending more foreign tourneys than hes ever done and that will throw him off.
soO- I had him on my main team last round and then watched in agony as he banked 4k gas while building only roach-ling against an opponent who had committed to immortal/sentry based play on 2 base. After I saw that absurd display, I knew he was going on my anti this round.
TRUE- Don't know anything about this guy, but I don't remember him playing much. Hopefully this doesn't bite me.
afrotoss pvz on ohana shouldnt be a good indicator. it is know that it is P favored. no wonder teams always sent toss on this map.(and they removed it from the map pool)
It had nothing to do with the map or the way the map affected the game. Paralyze did a three-base timing push with colossi. So often this turns into an all-in because players fail to set up a transition into mothership/archon. They committ too much to the timing and it turns sour. Paralyze had the transition already prepared when his push was eventually beat back. He had a mothership almost finished by the time his push finally ended and a templar archives almost done.
It had nothing to do with the map at all. Paralyze failed to make a mistake I've seen almost every Protoss make. I was impressed with his understanding of the game. T
Haven't really been following Proleague. Pretty much just chose KT and Flash, a few KT Zergs, a KT Protoss, and Zenio. And then went 4-4-5 on my anti-team.
Week 1 could go extremely well or extremely poorly for me.
Main Team JYP - He is likely to be sent out almost every round in this format, decent value at 3 points and will probably win week 1. Made him my captain since I felt it was better to have my higher pointers free to be traded. herO[join]/revival/stats - All have tough matches in week 1, gambling a bit here, but they are all fairly solid and I needed a 5 point zerg in my team, would have picked Action except he is in game 6 in week 1 and I doubt it will get there. Stats has pretty strong PvP so i'm hoping he will pull out the win on Rain...but it is rain so who knows. Cross my fingers for herO Light - Pretty great for a 4 pointer, likely to win his week 1 match, hoping he will get sent out a lot, considered making him my captain but ended up deciding id like him to be tradeable Innovation(Bogus) - If STX can ever get to ace match, it will probably be innovation or dear playing. I'm hoping he can win some games, will probably get sent out every match..hoping other STX members can step up and at least allow for the ace match
EG-TL - Tough week 1 lineup for EG-TL despite playing against the weakest team...no stephano and no taeja . I'm hoping those 2 will be back in action soon though. For week 1 I just hope either revival or puma can pull a win, and then JYP and HerO. not so confident in jaedong's zvp against dear and innovation should stomp zenio (better for my FPL anyways since hes on my main team)
Anti-team Stork - He has been on a bit of a tear lately, but I still think hes overvalued at 7 points, plus he is playing Hydra week 1 so im hoping Hydra will destroy him. Last - Not seeing play in week 1, and seems to have fizzled out..pretty good anti for a 3 pointer True - betting on him losing to Light, seemed to be the safest 3 pointer for week 1 who is actually playing.
Haven't really been following Proleague. Pretty much just chose KT and Flash, a few KT Zergs, a KT Protoss, and Zenio. And then went 4-4-5 on my anti-team.
I think you have this down except if you just replace Zenio/Roro with two of Stats/Wooki/Action
Week 1 could go extremely well or extremely poorly for me.
Main Team JYP - He is likely to be sent out almost every round in this format, decent value at 3 points and will probably win week 1. Made him my captain since I felt it was better to have my higher pointers free to be traded. herO[join]/revival/stats - All have tough matches in week 1, gambling a bit here, but they are all fairly solid and I needed a 5 point zerg in my team, would have picked Action except he is in game 6 in week 1 and I doubt it will get there. Stats has pretty strong PvP so i'm hoping he will pull out the win on Rain...but it is rain so who knows. Cross my fingers for herO Light - Pretty great for a 4 pointer, likely to win his week 1 match, hoping he will get sent out a lot, considered making him my captain but ended up deciding id like him to be tradeable Innovation(Bogus) - If STX can ever get to ace match, it will probably be innovation or dear playing. I'm hoping he can win some games, will probably get sent out every match..hoping other STX members can step up and at least allow for the ace match
Anti-team Stork - He has been on a bit of a tear lately, but I still think hes overvalued at 7 points, plus he is playing Hydra week 1 so im hoping Hydra will destroy him. Last - Not seeing play in week 1, and seems to have fizzled out..pretty good anti for a 3 pointer True - betting on him losing to Light, seemed to be the safest 3 pointer for week 1 who is actually playing.
Funny thing..you have the exact same roster I was thinking of making save Revival for Soulkey except I just wanted flash so badly on my team that I scrapped the more balanced lineup
Week 1 could go extremely well or extremely poorly for me.
Main Team JYP - He is likely to be sent out almost every round in this format, decent value at 3 points and will probably win week 1. Made him my captain since I felt it was better to have my higher pointers free to be traded. herO[join]/revival/stats - All have tough matches in week 1, gambling a bit here, but they are all fairly solid and I needed a 5 point zerg in my team, would have picked Action except he is in game 6 in week 1 and I doubt it will get there. Stats has pretty strong PvP so i'm hoping he will pull out the win on Rain...but it is rain so who knows. Cross my fingers for herO Light - Pretty great for a 4 pointer, likely to win his week 1 match, hoping he will get sent out a lot, considered making him my captain but ended up deciding id like him to be tradeable Innovation(Bogus) - If STX can ever get to ace match, it will probably be innovation or dear playing. I'm hoping he can win some games, will probably get sent out every match..hoping other STX members can step up and at least allow for the ace match
Anti-team Stork - He has been on a bit of a tear lately, but I still think hes overvalued at 7 points, plus he is playing Hydra week 1 so im hoping Hydra will destroy him. Last - Not seeing play in week 1, and seems to have fizzled out..pretty good anti for a 3 pointer True - betting on him losing to Light, seemed to be the safest 3 pointer for week 1 who is actually playing.
Funny thing..you have the exact same roster I was thinking of making save Revival for Ty except I just wanted flash so badly on my team that I scrapped the more balanced lineup
heh, I decided to lay off the Big pointers this time, My 8 pointers in the last 2 rounds both did pretty well (herO[join]) and (sOs), but i felt like there were too many solid 5 pointers. Could screw me over if these matches all go to ace though xD
My captain is HerO because he is a very solid player and undervalued at 7. Also, the other EGTL aces (Stephano and Taeja) are not available, and he is better than JYP in all aspects. The only other EGTL ace player would be Revival. Innovation is the ace player on STX and he has shown that he can be dominant at times, and he always has a trick up his sleeve with the sick micro to back it up. Action is just all-round extremely strong in all the games I've seen, even in the ones he lost. Good pickup for 5pts. Dear has been performing very well lately, and considering his opponent this week is terrible at ZvP, this is a good pick. Paralyze is a player I picked randomly last round. I first heard about him as the "Afrotoss", and if coach Boxer is willing to send him out in an all-kill format, then I have faith in him too. He did win a few games, and even beat Action in a drawn out PvZ! He is an absolute steal for only 2pts. Now I just need a 4pt player, and there aren't very many to choose from. Soo is pretty bad IMO, but considering his opponent is Motive (2pts) on Neo Bifrost, I think he has a good chance to win this week. I can always trade him later.
I pick SKT1 for my team, even though they are doing pretty bad. All-kill format favours teams with strong ace players, but now we are back to the regular proleague format, where preparation becomes an enormous factor. This is where I put my faith in Boxer.
Anti-team:
I don't expect Major to play, and if he does get sent out, I don't think he will do well enough to win. Foreigner giants like Naniwa, Huk, Thorzain, Mana, etc... struggle in Korean tournaments and it will be no exception for Major. After seeing Jaedong matching up against Dear this week, I decided to pick him. His ZvP was atrocious last time I saw him play, going mutalisks against a phoenix opening after being set back with a failed zergling rush was a terrible decision. The zergling rush was a bad strategy anyways. With that said, his ZvZ is really good and I can always trade him later. Now I need a 5pt player, and none of them seem to be very good anti-team picks. Ty is going up against sOs this week and considering he is performing poorly lately, it is pretty safe to bet against him.
Flash leading the charge with some cheap but somewhat solid players behind him.
-Flash I think he's a player who just gets stronger and stronger the more he plays and he's seem to have greatly improved his shaky TvT in Round 2 making him an incredible all round player now. -P7GAB(Wooki) A PvP monster and PvP seems to happen a lot in Proleague so I'm expecting him net a lot of PvP victories. -Dear Another PvP monster, Same reasoning as Wooki. Hopefully they don't play against each other. -Bravo(hon_sin) A solid TvT specialist. I'm guessing he disappeared in Round 2 because of the format. Hopefully he'll be back to squeak out some wins. -Crazy-Hydra Does well against weak players but seems to fall apart against strong players. Hopefully KT realises this and sends him out against weak players for easy wins. -JYP He's plays often for EG-TL so he has a better chance at grabbing some wins than most other players worth 3 points.
SK Telecom T1 Boy did they fall off in Round 2. SKT1 is still a very solid team and I believe they'll bounce back in Round 3.
Going for a more spread out Anti Team with unimpressive players.
-Revival Worth a whopping 5 points, less than 50% win rate, unproven in matchups. Maybe he'll be the RorO of Round 3? I hope not. -Light Why is this guy worth 4 points? Because he took a game off of Fantasy? Big deal. -Terminator(Sang) He did okay in Round 2. That's it. Nothing special.
Ok, after doing reasonably well in round 1 (Top 100 if I hadn't simply forgotten to trade Jaehoon for Stephano on Anti) and some tough luck in round 2 (Taeja as captain, SKT as team and JangBi on Anti ) I don't know about my choices this time. I really badly wanted to go for other players but they were all too expensive to be justifiable. So I'm hoping on getting some big ace points from Effort and Innovation and for the rest went with the solid Dear and some players that have doable games this week. I'm definitely planning on trading a lot more in this round. Anti team I'm hoping for Jaedong to lose this week to be able to trade him away nicely. TY is pretty much a gamble against better judgement because I know that Baby is an excellent Proleague-Player and I'm just hoping it won't come back to bite me in the ass.
I feel really good about this one. I think there are a lot of steals this time around, as well as a lot of incredibly overrated players, so it will be interesting to see how this round shakes out.
Light (captain): Still underrated despite being the best Terran on a good team. He's been consistent since the transition. I don't see myself ever wanting to trade him.
Bogus: 6 points seems really low, he is still one of the best Kespa players, and he will be STX's ace at least half of the time. I could see trading him midway through the season for someone like Fantasy/Stephano if he overperforms.
Wooki/Action: KT's roleplayers. They will likely start every week, and they both put up solid numbers. I think this format is kinder to them than All-Kill, since they seem to prepare for the maps pretty well. KT is probably still the best team, so having two of their best starters can't hurt.
CJ.herO: It was between him or Revival. I think Revival is slightly more consistent, but EG-TL's roster is unstable so I wanted to avoid taking any of their players. herO will start every week and be CJ's ace a lot of the time. He's a better player than most of the Protoss rated above him.
soO: Kind of my wildcard pick. I only had a few points to throw around, so I had to decide whether to grab Fantasy and a 1-pointer, or herO+soO+SKT, or herO+1pt+KT. I settled on the balanced approach because I think a lot of my players have the potential to do well, and then I can trade one of them for Fantasy later, whereas with a 1pt player or KT(team) there's really no room for growth.
SKT T1(team): See above. Could be wrong, KT is definitely a better team and only 3 points extra, but there were just so many good 5-6point players I felt like I had to have them all. I still think I'm getting a bargain at 1pt for SKT.
Anti: Stork: Kind of amazed I'm seeing him on fewer anti's now, even though he's worth more points. If you seriously think he's playing better than free, you need to rewatch the games. He only boasts a 50% winrate in Round 2, including many embarassing losses, and his only good day came when 3 of his opponents donated games to him. Easiest anti of my life.
Jaedong: Jaedong is actually quite good, but again, EGTL has roster fluctuations and I think he's only the 3rd best Zerg on his team, with Zenio being a solid 4th. I don't think he'll ever get an ace match and his playtime is going to be severely limited.
Major: Probably will never see a game, probably zero chance of winning if he does, and I don't expect T8 to do very well.
KT Rolster seems like the most balanced team so I picked it as a team and also took 3 players for the Main Team. Stats didn't lose a single game in R1 and hopefully he will do the same this time, the other two players from KT (Action and Crazy) did really well in R1 too and Crazy seems highly underrated. herO was a must have for 5 points and he might also play ace. Soulkey might play ace aswell and he is also a good value player. Bravo did kinda well for his price in R1 and in a team like Woongjin he can only improve.
Anti:
Stork is overpriced for 7 so I picked him. Last seems to underperform badly and Reality's record is really bad.
I just can't help myself. No matter how expensive he gets (like he'd ever get cheaper, hah!), I NEED Flash as my captain. I expect him to do very well, as always.
Let's go through the choices:
Acacia - filler. But one from KT so should give some points.
Action - wanted to choose two out of the three KT-players in Action, Stats and Wooki. Eventually I chose Action and Stats, because Wooki had a slightly worse win rate than Stats on the database, and I needed a good zerg so Action was a good choice. Slight deciding factor was also that I dislike name-changers, and P7GAB is a pretty silly name.
Stats - mentioned above in the text about Action. Very solid protoss, and on KT, so a great choice.
herO - Great in round one, decent (or awful?) in round two. Since it's the normal format, which was in round one as well, I predict herO do to great again. Obviously this is a big risk, since he might be awful again, but he was pretty cheap at 5 points and I expect CJ to send him out often, and probably as the main ace as well. I guess Hydra is his rival for the ace spot, but sometimes you just need a protoss ace, so there we go.
Trap - He hasn't done well in either previous round, but I'm still a believer. Ever since his awesome performance in Code A a few seasons ago (that map-awareness!), I'm just waiting for him to break out again.
SKT - wanted to pick KT, but didn't have enough points. SKT was cheap, and I hope they do better this round. Same bullet-proof logic as with picking herO: they did well in round one, and we return to that format, so they WILL do good now again.
Coincidentally, this logic also applies to my FPL picking, as I did well in my first round (rank 99 on my first FPL participation, and rank 2500-something? on round 2) - so rank 1 here we come!
Edit: Forgot to mention my anti-team. free was actually on my main team the last two rounds, and I think he's alright. But after a stellar performance in a couple games (an all-kill, believe?) I think he's become overpriced and decided to pick him for my anti. A big risk, as he might actually be fielded a lot more now, and be performing better.
Wasn't impressed with Ryul2, and Shine just sucks, so easy picks there.
I just can't help myself. No matter how expensive he gets (like he'd ever get cheaper, hah!), I NEED Flash as my captain. I expect him to do very well, as always.
Let's go through the choices:
Acacia - filler. But one from KT so should give some points.
Action - wanted to choose two out of the three KT-players in Action, Stats and Wooki. Eventually I chose Action and Stats, because Wooki had a slightly worse win rate than Stats on the database, and I needed a good zerg so Action was a good choice. Slight deciding factor was also that I dislike name-changers, and P7GAB is a pretty silly name.
Stats - mentioned above in the text about Action. Very solid protoss, and on KT, so a great choice.
herO - Great in round one, decent (or awful?) in round two. Since it's the normal format, which was in round one as well, I predict herO do to great again. Obviously this is a big risk, since he might be awful again, but he was pretty cheap at 5 points and I expect CJ to send him out often, and probably as the main ace as well. I guess Hydra is his rival for the ace spot, but sometimes you just need a protoss ace, so there were we go.
Trap - He hasn't done well in either previous round, but I'm still a believer. Ever since his awesome performance in Code A a few seasons ago (that map-awareness!), I'm just waiting for him to break out again.
SKT- wanted to pick KT, but didn't have enough points. SKT was cheap, and I hope they do better this round. Same bullet-proof logic as with picking herO: they did well in round one, and we return to that format, so they WILL do good now again.
Coincidentally, this logic also applies to my FPL picking, as I did well in my first round (rank 99 on my first FPL participation, and rank 2500-something? on round 2) - so rank 1 here we come!
Looks like you know which is the best KT Edit: I'm still having a hard time trying to justify myself of getting Flash considering...he's worth 10 points, the only player to cost double digits, if you break up Flash, it opens up the potential to pick two additional ace players like Ty/Soulkey/HerO
Argo - really impressed last round, think he will be T8's new ace. Bong - got a couple of surprise kills, and has a good first-week matchup. good for the price. Crazy-Hydra - cheap, KT, zerg. need i say more? Dear - was missing for the first few STX matches, but they really could have used him. started owning face once he showed up, decent chance at ace matches imo. Fantasy - always solid, decent chance at ace matches. plus fun to watch :D Puma - cheap, has a good first-week matchup. EGTL coach loves to play him, whether that's a good decision or not... SKT - they failed me last round, but at 1 point i couldn't pass them up. boxer save SKT!
free - think he's overpriced, especially in the WJS lineup where he most likely won't play any ace matches. hyvaa - has been a mainstay on my anti-team every round, never regretted it. Last - has been a mainstay on my main team every round, always regretted it.
Reading some of the last few posts makes me think maybe I should break up Jaedong on my anti into Shine and someone else. Two players getting points is worse than one, but on the other hand, Shine is pretty awful and I could parlay him with Reality to give myself a full Khan anti-team, putting me in good shape if they lose all their matches.
Not sure though, I really don't see Jaedong getting more than 5 appearances this season and going something like 3-2.
Revival- I love him (hes cute) and hes a teamleague boss; DEFINITELY worth 5 points
herO- At only 5 points def a steal, he will likely be used as CJ's ace at least a few times
P7GAB- He dominated this format in week 1 and hes got pvp in round 1, and hes a pvp boss. Not to mention hes on KT
SkyHigh- i needed a terran and he was only 2, it seems hes replaced Bbyong in the CJ lineup so i chose SkyHigh over Bbyong
Stats- Just like Wooki, he dominated in round 1, and hes on KT. Unfortunatley hes up against Rain in the first match so im little worried about that, but i have faith even if he loses to Rain.
Terminator- I originally didn't want to pick him but i needed a 4 and decided that between SoO and LighT he had the best chance of winning his round 1 match as well as hes been looking the best recently, as hes always being fielded by T8.
(edit: forgot to write about KT lol) Team: KT Rolster- i choice KT because even though they're 4 i feel like they will definitely win a lot. and having both Wooki and Stats on my team, when they do well it will result in many-a-point for me ^__^ Anti-Team:
Stork- i had him anti round 1 and it did me well. However he started doing a lot better at the end of round 2 so i have creeping suspicion about this choice...but i still think hes overpriced at a 7 and i feel like he wont keep up this streak of doing well and i'll end up okay.
Last- since Stork was 7, i could pick two threes. Last isnt even in the lineup round 1 and i feel like hes not too good anyways. easy pick.
S2- i was deciding who to pick as my other 3, and i decided on S2 because hes playing flash in the first match. Although he will probably get a lot/decent amount of play time with SKT i feel like he wont win too much so i should be okay.
Bong-Cheap, and had some pretty good performances recently.
Effort-Most likely a very consistently played zerg for Entus, since he and Hydra are the only reliable ones. Looking forward to having him rack up the points ^_^
hero[j]-Been slumping a little bit (like rain :o ) but I have faith in his power, and he's on Entus, and he's only 5 points. Hoping that he gets his mojo back~
Hydra-Other Entus zerg, has been rockin out recently. Very likely that he will be in every lineup, and since he's awesome, he will not be defeated this round and I will make a bajillion ESPORTS dollars
Puma-Cheap filler from EGTL and with the EG Lab he could maybe get back into shape, but mostly he's there because he was my favorite from the remaining 2 pointers
Skyhigh(C)-Apparently replaced bbyong as the one entus terran, and pretty cheap at two points. He's either really improved , a sniper, or bbyong is fucking awful, so hopefully he will get some good playtime. I don't really know why he's my captain though, lol
EGTL-Hoping that normal format suits them a bit better :S
!Anti!
Light-Looked fairly disappointing in standard games so far, so he will hopefully get owned by other gaiz ^^
Terminator-Started off the year looking not-terrible, but appears to be getting worse, so he dun gets the pick
TY-Cure has pretty much replaced him as the 8th king of terran, so i'm gambling on him not getting playtime/getting sniper/being awful
action: Played well for the most part, plus KT will be winning a decent amount and that means he will too once again. He was ok last round, but I feel like he will progress more and more.
bbyong: Played well recently, and dirt cheap.
Hero: Simply a really good player and not at a prohibitively high price, seemed like a solid pick for 7.
Bogus: Solid player and fair price, felt the safest of all the picks at this price with his performances.
Wooki: Developed into a good player with a decent price on a great team.
Terminator: I think he will be playing a lot and he's been doing ok, didn't feel great about taking light for 4.
Anti:
Last: I think he sucks for 3, doesn't impress or play a lot
Shine: Same as last
Stork: My big risk, he has some nice wins, but nothing to really decimate an anti imo, ok pick for an anti and is there for his high point total obviously.
This is what makes me upset about FPL. I make my team, based off my experience and intuition, then come read others FPLs and think "damn why didn't think of that!
I feel much better about this round than the last 2. There were a ton of good players available in the 4-6 range (some that I thought were better than those in the 7-9 range). herO, Innovation, and Soulkey are all ace caliber players. Stats has the 3rd highest win ratio. SoO and Light are pretty good values for 4, although I wonder if I should have gone for a 5 and 3 instead (such as Baby and JYP) And finally, SKT only costed 1 so I took them.
By coincidence, my anti-team is purely Samsung players. I took Stork because he seemed the most overvalued 6-10 range player, and then Shine and Reality just happened to be the 2 players with the lowest ELO in proleague.
Innovation (Bogus) - Solid terran who’s been at some points the best KeSPA player and will more often than not be STX’s ace.
herO[join] -This pick was probably more because I love herO. He’s really been kind of disappointing but he was only 5 points and he’s still CJ Entus’ best Protoss even if he isn’t there outright ace anymore.
Cure (Speed) - At the moment he seems like T8’s best Terran player and he has really strong TvT and TvZ.
Wooki (P7GAB) - He’s been good through both rounds and was ruthless in Round 1 in the Proleague format so I expect the same this round.
Crazy-Hydra - Solid Round 1 but he didn’t get much opportunity in Round 2 but he’ll see games regularly this round. Also, picking KT Rolster players is good in this format right?
SK Telecom T1 - They were 1 point and seemed an obvious pick for me. I really don’t think there’s any way that they’ll perform as poorly this round.
I have no idea what i'm doing so I went with a full KT one =)
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Also, I have Stork on my anti-team cause he's going to play Hydra in the first match, and Hydra's ZvP is 7-1 (87,5%) and Stork PvZ is 2-3 I also have s2 cause he's unlikely to win, and Last cause he won't play the first week.
BrAvO is most likely undervalued because he didn't play in R2 for unknown reasons, but he's solid enough to be a frequent player for WJS.
If there is no world-ending catastrophe inbound, Innovation should easily win against Zenio, so I can trade him away next week for someone better if necessary.
JYP is a solid 3-pointer with a great map and opponent in Week 1, also he might even play ace matches if the trOt/Hwanni combo continue to make decisions only they can comprehend.
Light is cool, I liked him last round and even though he might not be top tier, I think he'll do pretty well again this round. At least I think he's way more solid than Terminator who's relatively bad and soO who's not reliable at all, it's a bit sad but I won't be stupid enough anymore to pick more Zergs than I have to.
Wooki should beat Best and has done well in every round, he's on a good team and I expect a decent amount of points. I'd have liked to pick Stats but Wooki has the way easier opponent.
Soulkey, meh, I picked him last round and he was terrible but I still needed a Zerg. I hope it was only a smaller slump and he'll do better in this format where he can prepare, I think he's damn good at that. Also, I do think Soulkey is the best you can get from all the 3-6 point Zergs and I wouldn't want to spend my money on Effort if I could get a non-Protoss ace instead. Anyway, I chose to go for the more evenly distributed points this round and hope I get a bit lucky.
Woongjin as a team, they're my favourite Kespa team and they have done well so far, I don't think they'll be much worse than KT so I can get away with a bit of favoritism.
Anti team is hard, Stork has been good although he may still be valued a bit too high at 7 points, hyvaa is terrible and Last doesn't play this round, I'm only afraid because of Stork but I have no idea who else I should have picked from the good players.
I still wonder whether I should have picked SKT again, you could have made a sick team with all the additional points you get.
I just can't help myself. No matter how expensive he gets (like he'd ever get cheaper, hah!), I NEED Flash as my captain. I expect him to do very well, as always.
Let's go through the choices:
Acacia - filler. But one from KT so should give some points.
Action - wanted to choose two out of the three KT-players in Action, Stats and Wooki. Eventually I chose Action and Stats, because Wooki had a slightly worse win rate than Stats on the database, and I needed a good zerg so Action was a good choice. Slight deciding factor was also that I dislike name-changers, and P7GAB is a pretty silly name.
Stats - mentioned above in the text about Action. Very solid protoss, and on KT, so a great choice.
herO - Great in round one, decent (or awful?) in round two. Since it's the normal format, which was in round one as well, I predict herO do to great again. Obviously this is a big risk, since he might be awful again, but he was pretty cheap at 5 points and I expect CJ to send him out often, and probably as the main ace as well. I guess Hydra is his rival for the ace spot, but sometimes you just need a protoss ace, so there were we go.
Trap - He hasn't done well in either previous round, but I'm still a believer. Ever since his awesome performance in Code A a few seasons ago (that map-awareness!), I'm just waiting for him to break out again.
SKT- wanted to pick KT, but didn't have enough points. SKT was cheap, and I hope they do better this round. Same bullet-proof logic as with picking herO: they did well in round one, and we return to that format, so they WILL do good now again.
Coincidentally, this logic also applies to my FPL picking, as I did well in my first round (rank 99 on my first FPL participation, and rank 2500-something? on round 2) - so rank 1 here we come!
Looks like you know which is the best KT
Oh I know. I had a terrible time chosing which team logo to use. Flash is my favorite player, but Fantasy is right behind him. I love both SKT and KT (I know you're supposed to like one and hate the other, but come on, they're both great), but in the end I went with SKT because of the Boxer factor. I just wish I could use both logos, because I'm starting to like the rest of the KT line up more these days, especially Stats.
I'm not sure about this at all. But hoping to get lucky on Ryul2. Bbyong and hon_sin have the potential to do well. And the rest of them all can kick ass with a bit of luck.
As for the antiteam: just hoping for free to flop long enough for me to trade him.
Main: Flash - Despite some shaky performances in the middle of round 2, he finished strong and overcame Fantasy in an impressive manner. I like his preference for macro and I think he's only going to get better. Bong - He's basically a week 1 pick. Reality hasn't been doing well, so I'm expecting him to pick up a win. Crazy - I couldn't really find any other cheap zergs, but I actually think he has a shot against Fantasy this week. Haruhi - Was my t8 leach last round. JYP - For some reason, EG-TL really likes to field him a lot. I actually think he can get the job done in PvZ and PvP. P7GAB - I was really torn between picking him and Dear. I think Dear is objectively the better pick given that he's seemed to develop into a better player/ace than Innovation. But at the end of the day, I decided I wanted to gamble more heavily on KT and went with the Wookie.
Team: KT. They have a strong core with Action, Stats and P7GAB as well as arguably the best player with Flash.
Anti: Shine - I just don't think he's going to do well and probably won't see any ace time given the strictly better option of Roro, as well as Jangbi and Stork. Soulkey - Hasn't lived up to his reputation, and Stars has better aces in sOs and ZerO. Ty - Like Soulkey, he's been underperforming in both PL and GSL, and he's been eclipsed by Argo and Cure for ace. He also has a tough first match in sOs.
Okay now that Ive switched Effort for Stork on my anti and looking back I really like this team.
I have 3 players who I think could see Ace action and win in Revival JD and Fantasy. I consider Light a steal at 4 points and JYP and bravo I think will win this week and then I can trade them for good players next week.
I tried to go with a balanced team of players I feel can hold their own and still secure some good points. Don't feel like Reality or TY are doing very well, and I just don't like Soulkey. lol.
Main Team 8 Fantasy (captain).. Solid Ace player, my captain 5 herO[jOin] .......... I think he can do better in the regular format 3 JYP .................. My EG-TL hope , relatively cheap 3 Reality .............. I think this terran will get his break soon 5 Soulkey ............. Need to have a zerg , this was the best i could find for 5 points 5 Stats ................ Stats is my favourite KT toss 1 SK Telecom T1 ...... ONLY 1 point for SKT?? WTF! can only be better
Picked middle of the road players that will see consistent games with an adequate win rate. Jaehoon over performed i felt, although i would have like stephano instead of him. SKT1 at 1 point is a bargain.
Decided to go for some different players this time around. I've gone mainly SKT based in the past and probably could of stuck with Fantasy, but thought screw it. Time to try some new ones(especially after last round). However, I still chose them as my team, because of their cheapness and I am rooting for them. Soulkey is kind of a no brainer. He's solid most of the time and this time I could finally afford him. soO because I still think he has the ability to win a majority of his matches, despite having a few bad games in the last round. I didn't think of Wooki much at all before this season of Proleague, but I think he has proven himself time and time again. He's consistent and even better he's on KT which is sure to bring in some points. herO and Bogus were good for their amount of points. I expect them both to get a good amount of wins. Finally, Light. To be honest, I just threw him on because I needed one more player. I felt he was the best for the remaining amount of points.
My Anti team was also a little randomly thrown together. I will most likely regret Dear, but I'll give him a try. I don't expect Shine to be played at all and if he does, it won't go well for him. I wasn't to impressed with TY last round, so I hope that continues onto this round.
Got some heavy hitters on my main team thanks to SKT only being 1 point this round. Had Fantasy in round 1 and he was too expensive in round 2 so I'm glad to get him back. Bogus and Soulkey are bargains at these point values so I had to get them too. As long as my anti-team doesn't blow up my spot I'm feeling pretty good about this round.
Augh i massed 5 pointers and just happened to have exactly 30 points O.o Bbyong was ONLY 2 POINTS, and he is still a decent player. Cheap and I think, easy points for me Dear 3 killed EG-TL and had solid performances for almost all the other games. Wooki is still Solid, I'd think. All killing is a good accomplishment (Though after Free all killed, he didn't do much else) but Wooki was sent out to play a bunch of PvP coin tosses (and lost). But with 5 points, I think Wooki is still a good choice. Revival is almost always sent out for EG-TL, and is likely to become the Ace for the first round, since Taeja and Stephano are out for the first week I think. Revival is pretty solid in all matchups, and has above-average ZvZ. soO was sort of a wild-card I guess, since i've never actually seen soO play, but heard that he was actually a pretty good player. Sort of a gamble on my part. Lastly, Stats, who has been doing pretty solid. Nothing past that I don't think. KT I believe, A lot of it is because they do better in pre-set formats, as opposed to all-kills for some reason.
Anti's I swear, if I do good, I'm going to fail becuase of my anti-team. I still think Soulkey is sort of overrated, though I could easily be wrong in a few games. I put Baby last time, and only got -3. I don't think Baby will be sent out a lot until later in the round...though probably a bad choice on my part. And Bravo, I have never seen play...but since i haven't heard much from him, he shouldn't kill my team right? Right...?
This team is mostly hopeful-rising stars, as opposed to choosing all the 7-10 Point stars like Flash/Zero/Fantasy/Argo etc etc. Sort of a big gamble on my part but w/e
I'm way too tired to finish my explanation right now but I'll do it tomorrow. It will be too late for people so head to the other thread if you want my insight.
Help me, guys! I'm going crazy with all the 3/5-point Zerg/Protoss combos available. All I really know is I don't want soO/Terminator. And I even forgot Action!
Team is named after my typo. I just can't stop laughing at it, saying squitle is hilarious. I took Bravo cause I believe any day now he will evolve into Julyzerg. Then I just rounded out the team with a bunch of solid players, Bogus, herojoin, soulkey, Light, and Ryul2.
Last and Stork are obvious. I haven't seen reality do well in a long time so I put him there as well. I've also decided to never use any of team8's new ID changes. Instead I'll be giving them Gozilla themed-names any time I see them play like Godzilla, Mothra, Ghidorah, etc.
Team is named after my typo. I just can't stop alughing at it, saying squitle is hilarious. I took Bravo cause I believe any day now he will evolve into Julyzerg. Then I just rounded out the team with a bunch of solid players, Bogus, herojoin, soulkey, Light, and Ryul2.
Last and Stork are obvious. I haven't seen reality do well in a long time so I put him there as well. I've also decided to never use any of team8's new ID changes. Instead I'll be giving them Gozilla themed-names any time I see them play like Godzilla, Mothra, Ghidorah, etc.
You should switch out Light with someone else so every player has brackets behind his name.
Team is named after my typo. I just can't stop alughing at it, saying squitle is hilarious. I took Bravo cause I believe any day now he will evolve into Julyzerg. Then I just rounded out the team with a bunch of solid players, Bogus, herojoin, soulkey, Light, and Ryul2.
Last and Stork are obvious. I haven't seen reality do well in a long time so I put him there as well. I've also decided to never use any of team8's new ID changes. Instead I'll be giving them Gozilla themed-names any time I see them play like Godzilla, Mothra, Ghidorah, etc.
You should switch out Light with someone else so every player has brackets behind his name.
Anti Team 5 Dear 5 Soulkey 4 Terminator(Sang) Changed my team a bit; Bbyong and CH I thought were ~undervalued so I picked them instead of what I had initially. Jaedong, Rain and Stats don't require any explanation do they? Huk because I like him and hope he'll at least yield some indirect points when EGL wins. Basically hoping that KT starts 4-0ing teams.
My anti-teams always kill me, I don't know. I think I copied someone else's. I think it's an alright choice though.
On January 28 2013 09:10 crawlingchaos wrote: Power Overwhelming (mostly)
Anti Team 5 Dear 5 Soulkey 4 Terminator(Sang) Changed my team a bit; Bbyong and CH I thought were ~undervalued so I picked them instead of what I had initially. Jaedong, Rain and Stats don't require any explanation do they? Huk because I like him and hope he'll at least yield some indirect points when EGL wins. Basically hoping that KT starts 4-0ing teams.
My anti-teams always kill me, I don't know. I think I copied someone else's. I think it's an alright choice though.
My advice is: copy some other anti team, maybe stuchiu's, this one might work out but I think it's terrible. They'll all play every single match and most likely get decent results, it's potentially devastating.
On January 28 2013 09:10 crawlingchaos wrote: Power Overwhelming (mostly)
Anti Team 5 Dear 5 Soulkey 4 Terminator(Sang) Changed my team a bit; Bbyong and CH I thought were ~undervalued so I picked them instead of what I had initially. Jaedong, Rain and Stats don't require any explanation do they? Huk because I like him and hope he'll at least yield some indirect points when EGL wins. Basically hoping that KT starts 4-0ing teams.
My anti-teams always kill me, I don't know. I think I copied someone else's. I think it's an alright choice though.
My advice is: copy some other anti team, maybe stuchiu's, this one might work out but I think it's terrible. They'll all play every single match and most likely get decent results, it's potentially devastating.
On January 28 2013 08:52 StarVe wrote: Help me, guys! I'm going crazy with all the 3/5-point Zerg/Protoss combos available. All I really know is I don't want soO/Terminator. And I even forgot Action!
I think you're better off with action/JYP than soulkey/JYP. Action has a better record, he's the Zerg ace of his team (while soulkey has ZerO to contend with) and while woongjin points are going to be plentiful and delicious, the only thing that's going to be more plentiful is KT points.
JYP is probably the best choice for a 3 point toss though. I have both him and CJ's Bong.
God damnit, why did I come into this thread again. StarVe you have made me doubt myself once again - I don't dare pick Stork up though, since EVERYONE else is doing it and I feel like it's too risky of a choice since he's on a noticeable upswing from R2. But there are no other suitable routes to take other than the Stork cop-out and I have to take a risk with Action and Dear.
Mostly counting on my Protoss lineup to carry the team with a decent Terran and Zerg to enjoy the Ride will most def swap out Flying for PartinG for next round 4 of my Favorite Protoss on one Fantasy Team. Just struggling to find a Anti Team i feel safe with
I tried to be somewhat balanced this time. There were so many good picks on the 4-6 range it was really hard for me to remain balanced and hit the cap lol. In the end I went with both herO and HerO. HerO is on a roll lately and since he was eliminated from GSL he can focus on this (unlike Stephano and others) and he'll likely be the EG-TL ace since he carried EG-TL in their past view wins. herO wasn't doing so well last round but I think for 5 points he'll far surpass his worth, especially considering how well he did in Round 1 using normal format. Another probable ace player (even over Hydra, despite Hydra's R2 performance). Innovation is 100% the STX ace (if they ever make it to an ace match lol). Good steal for 6 points. JYP has consistently played and done somewhat well. Especially looking at his R1 stats I think he'll be a fine choice for 3 points. Almost went with Crazy-Hydra (who was on my main on R1 and did really well for me) but he didn't play a lot in R2 and I think Action kind of outshined him in terms of the KT zerg department so he might not play each week . Bbyong is a steal for 2. Consistent amount of points in the last 2 rounds AND he's on CJ. Excellent 2 point pick up. Other than Motive and (maybe!?!? MajOr) he's about the only 2 pointer that will get to play at all. Anti I'm not sure with Dear. He was slumping most of R2 but then he's seemed to be waking up recently...any tips here?
Fantasy has done well in both rounds, I feel like he will continue to remain solid. Acacia and Motive for those sweet KT points. Innovation, who does well and can play in Ace Matches for STX, has a very favorable match up vs. Zenio. Light is cheap and has done well throughout. Stats is a solid P for KT who will probably win quite a few games. KT has done really well, and I hope they continue to do so.
Anti:
Bisu hasn't played, and SKT is on a huge slide, as is Rain. Last has looked pretty underwhelming as of late
Chaos After "careful analysis" on each player's performance in round 1 & 2, I have come up with the resulting team:
Main Team 1 Hanbin-random terran from WJS, used for free points only 5 herO[jOin]-monster in this format, mortal in the all-kill, double digit scorer either way. I expect more of the former than the latter in this format, either way he'll score me points. 6 Innovation(Bogus) (captain)-Wanted Fantasy, but then I'd have to give up one of my 5-pointers. Bogus was only 5-10 points short of Fanta. each round, so I'm betting Bogus+5-pointer > Fanta.+3-pointer 4 Light-consistent player both rounds, seems like a steal at 4 points 5 Soulkey-slipped off a bit in round 2, but was a monster in round 1 when it wasn't all-kill format, potential for lots of points is off the charts imo. 5 Stats-solid #2 on KT, consistent performer, should rack me up points especially in this format 4 Woongjin Stars-monster team in both formats, I expect them to continue their dominance
Anti Team 3 hyvaa-harmless in last 2 rounds, don't see why that trend will change now 3 Shine-see hyvaa 7 Stork-Stork on my anti hasn't killed me yet, and i figured its less of a risk to have a 7-3-3 anti than a 5-5-3 anti.
My team doesn't have any predicted "breakout" candidates, but all of them were fairly consistent from round 1 to 2 (unlike some other players), and they have earned my trust (for the moment....)
On January 28 2013 08:52 StarVe wrote: Help me, guys! I'm going crazy with all the 3/5-point Zerg/Protoss combos available. All I really know is I don't want soO/Terminator. And I even forgot Action!
Bbyong is a steal for 2. Consistent amount of points in the last 2 rounds AND he's on CJ. Excellent 2 point pick up. Other than Motive and (maybe!?!? MajOr) he's about the only 2 pointer that will get to play at all.
Bbyong played in three matches round two; went 1-3 and got a grand total of 6 points.... Hes not even in the Lineup for week 1 of round three; hes been replaced by SkyHigh who is also a 2 point terran, so Honestly i feel Skyhigh is the better pick.
MAIN TEAM Hydra---Had him since R1 and has been doing godly lately. Jaedong---I'm a fanboy and think hes been doing well so why not. JYP---He seems like a solid 3-pointer to me. He also has some potential if he doesn't suck with Stalker micro. Light---Hes the best choice I think for a 4-pointer. He also got a solid 10 points last round. Revival---I've had a little crush on him for awhile now and it has no signs of stopping. Zenio---Mainly for the EG-TL team points, but a solid 2-pointer none the less. EG-TL---YEA BOYZ
ANTI-TEAM I think these 3 will do somewhat poorly this season.
a solid team around Captain Fantasy with possible Aces like Innovation,Wooki and hero and a good 2 pointer with Bbyong . But about my Anti i am not too sure Jaehoon might be a risk, but I dont think he is an 8.pointer.
My hopes are this time instead of centering around 1 team, I will spread it out a bit bit have pretty much 3 main contenders and hope that the low pointers either don't get played and just pick up points from their team victories.
This round is not an All-kill format anymore. May be you should spread out your points evenly rather than stacking up on 1 or 2 players at the same time with bad players that won't ever show up.
ok, so basically, I can't lose. only hard part was the Anti-Team. ZerO might fuck me over but it was a though call to make. really wish I could've just picked Taeja (sry~~) but it wasn't letting me. Anyways, I win. GG everyone, nice try, but I win round 3, idc about the other rounds, put a lot of thought into this.
Main Team 2 Best I think he will play over Bisu and can snipe a few wins. He's playing week 1 but if he doesn't get more games after that I might have to trade him. 6 Cure(Speed) Solid, hoping he will get some Ace matches from Jaehoon 8 Fantasy (captain) Wanted consistency from my captain, someone I definitely wouldn't want to trade at any point. Could have gone with Flash for the same reasons but wanted to spend the points elsewhere. 6 Innovation(Bogus) Solid, will play every week, and should get some Ace matches. 2 Motive KT points, week 1 player, potential for good value here 5 Soulkey Dropped too low after a weak R2, will almost certainly play every week and is good enough to take games off anyone. 1 SK Telecom T1 SKT too good to be one point. All it takes is Rain + Fantasy + 1, then Ace match. Should be worth a couple wins just off that. Anti Team 5 herO[jOin] 3 Shine 5 TY(Baby) Too inconsistent, screwed me in R1
Main Team 5 Action KT's Zerg ace pretty straight forward 5 herO[jOin] herO absolutely crushed R1, he's a bargain this time around at only 5 5 Revival Revival I feel is the backbone of EGTL, always solid 4 soO SKT Zerg Ace, preforming decently 2 sSak BoxeR used sSak multiple times to everyone's surprise so he must be good! and i needed a terran 5 Stats (captain) For this im going with Stats over Wooki because Stats has a history of being a solid PL player, and I think Wooki is over-hyped 4 KT Rolster I didn't know whether to go with KT or Woongjin, Woongjin has been preforming amazingly but I believe that KT is better.
Anti Team 6 Cure(Speed) I think he's Over-hyped, he did play well against KT but then he just... 3 Shine gave people points while being on their anti-team in R1 of FPL 4 Terminator(Sang) The other 4pters were godly like Light and soO, so Terminator was the only option left.
Main Team 5 Action Mafia Zerg is a beast 2 Bbyong Pretty solid 2 point player 2 Best Did well early on, he will rise again. 10 Flash (captain) GOD 5 herO[jOin] 5 points? Bargain for this player. 5 TY(Baby) Ditto. 1 SK Telecom T1 SKT1 point? LOL! I'll take it.
Anti Team 8 Argo(Jaehoon) - Couldn't be a better deal! BLUE GOO! 3 JYP Yep.. 2 ThorZain Makes me sad too.
Anti Team 5 Dear 3 Last 5 TY(Baby) Team Attempt number.....53? I forget lol. I think this one I'll stick with. Replaced Bbyong w/ Crazy-Hydra considering Crazy's R1 preformance and cheap cost. Also switched EG-TL w/ SKT1 to compensate. I think STK1 for 1 point is awesome considering how well they did in R1 with this format. Hopefully they just turn out to be bad at the all-kill format and they get good again.
First had flash as captain, because he seems to never dissapoint. But since this left me hanging with two 2-pointers, and since this is a PL style round, i changed him to Fantasy and could upgrade to awesome So0.
Antiteam got pretty difficult this round since there are no glaring over/underrated players anymore. I first chose TL Hero as my choice, but seeing as TL plays alot of 4-3 matches, and Hero is often the ace, i swapped him for Free. IMO the lesser of two evils. Hyvaa has been on my anti-team since round 1 , and keeps failing, while Shine has a abysmal record.
Went with WJS since they seemed to have done pretty well in rounds 1 and 2, and I don't think 2-3 points extra in the players would have been worth the loss in team points. The four-pointer teams have fairly similar matchups for the first two weeks, so I just stuck with WJS haha.
fOKINS was a good captain last round, he'll be my captain again ;D Out of the other players, I tried to pick those who I thought had good W1 matchups, and will probably do well in the rest of the rounds.
sHy is probably WJS' best player and is against BaBy, who isn't doing very well lately. Dear is STX's second best player and is up against Jaedong, who still isn't impressing me in non-ZvZ. Wooki is in a PvP, which he's pretty good at. Light and JYP I also expect to win their matches, since Alone and hyvaa are not that impressive either. I picked up quite a few WJS players too, so I'm hoping to get some points there haha. I spent quite a bit of time agonising over my last picks (I had nine points for two players) so I grabbed fOKINS and sHy. Was also considering EffOrt + Lizzy too, hrmm.
My anti-team is similar to mine from last round. hyvaa is one of the most disappointing players; Last isn't playing in week 1 either. They're also both on STX, so I'm hoping they pick up very few team win points. Stork is a bit of a gamble, but he is up against Hydra week 1, who has a 7-1 ZvP record.
We'll see how this goes! I haven't watched PL very religiously so I was just basing off general impressions, hope it's not too off lol. Feedback/comments?
All of these 5 pointers, did well in both rounds, not to mention every single one of them was pretty damn solid. Action - Solid KT zerg player Bravo - Did well in Round 1 format, expected to do well again with only 3 points CJ herO - Just a monster, possibly the ace for CJ too, steal for 5 points Wooki - Allkilled round 2, did well in round one, not to mention is in KT, easy pickup Revival - Good choice in round 2, pleased with his results, might even be ace for EGTL every now and then, solid all around player Stats - Round 1 was flawless, hoping for the same outcome, solid player. EGTL - I'm a fanboy. :3
Reality did poorly in these rounds, I don't expect him to play well in this one either. Major probably won't play, and RorO is on and off, he did well last round, so I'm expecting a bad RorO this round haha.
Found my team by comparing win rates of players to their points (Similar to Ammanas) and added # of games played to the calculation. I figure all players (and team) here are solid, will win more they lose and play more then 70% of the time for their teams (collectively).
Anti-team was the most difficult thing to pick. I am pretty set on Shine + Terminator I feel both are very overrated for their points. After picking them the only 6 point players were Jaedong, Innovation and Cure. After the nerf to infestors had to put Jaedong down however I won't be surprised if this hurts me.
On January 28 2013 13:07 NightWulF wrote: I chose this team because it contained many player i love!!!!!!! and also i feel that hero and jaedong will score me MANY POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your players should play the most possible games, so no 1-2 credit guys, but you also want some aces. I absolutely wanted to have Bogus (ace player for 6 credits) and Soulkey for their price, so I couldnt fit Flash in. Rain had a very good showing in the proleague format and I still think he is the best KeSPA player. Only downside to Flash is he might share the ace role. soO lost his last 3 matches in proleague but he showed good games at various MLG tournaments, so I still trust him. JYP and hon_sin have good records and should be expected to be in (almost) every lineup. Especially soO, hon_sin and Bogus have very good opponents for the first week. No player plays in the 6th slot and only JYP in the 5th, so they should all get to play their match. (with these players I also have 2 from each race to have trading flexibility) SKT1 is still a top team, nice price, I need the credits for the players.
Anti: Stork is overvalued, he just got so many appearances in Round 2. His record was "only" 5-6. Last doesnt play the first week. And Ryul2 didnt have impressive wins and he won't beat Zero.
Main Team 6 Cure(Speed) :dominant in round 2 > soulkey 5 herO[jOin]: tough fight against jangBi but well rounded with 4-4 in round 2 8 Hydra : did well for me in round 2 nuf said 5 P7GAB(Wooki) : >flash 4 soO : motive hasnt been fielded so going off of PL experience 1 Swift(captain) : those WJS points 1 SK Telecom T1 : 1 point is a steal
Anti Team 3 JYP : with his performances and his lack of micro its a good choice 5 Stats : < rain first round 5 TY(Baby) underperformed 0-4
This round I'm trying to get a more rounded roster, and I made quite a lot of steals today. Stats, Soulkey, herO, and Revival all came in at 5 points a piece, which I thought was insane. s2 valued at 3 was a nice deal to, and my highest cost player was Cure at 6. Hopefully they can all pull off some wins for me this round =D
I feel like a lot of these teams will end up being quite similar due to the overall downsizing of players' and teams' point values, which makes it easier to pick several good players and less necessary to gamble with 1- or 2-pointers. I've already seen several teams that are close to mine and I've barely looked at them considering there's 13 pages to go through.
I picked this team rather differently from the first two rounds, making sure to look at the starters for this week and take them seriously. This round, I will not trade based on "well this guy hasn't been doing as well as I'd hoped so I'll trade him away", but instead I'll be thinking about "this guy plays this week and that guy doesn't", or "this guy is more likely to win his match than that guy". Hopefully this pays off.
Another note is that for once I am betraying the Terran race and allowing an extra Protoss on board. What can ya do.
Flash: My number 1 and always captain. Because he costs ten points, I've pretty much dismissed getting anyone else who's 6+. Opponent is s2, which Flash can surely handle. Action: A 5-pointer and, in my opinion, well worth it. You don't get called the Mafia Zerg if you lose all the time. He did worse in R2 than in R1, but I think it's okay. Opponent is sacsri, who hasn't made a big impression yet. Classic: Perhaps my weakest player, the one who lost to Thorzain. However, his next opponent is Puma, so I think he has the best chance to win out of the 2-pointers. JYP: Probably stronger than he's given credit for. I mainly picked him because his opponent is hyvaa. Light: I'm surprised he got bumped up to 4 points considering he didn't perform as unreasonably well as I expected him to last round, but I'm still rooting for him. Opponent is True, who so far isn't too intimidating. Wooki: No surprises here, and the fact that he's only 5 points this round is like greatness in a box. He maintained a >50% win rate in both rounds, going 8-4 overall. The biggest reason I picked him over Stats is because his opponent BeSt is much less formidable than Rain. SKTelecom T1:Finally SKT has something to do with my FPL, previously there was no trace of it to be seen anywhere on main or anti. SKT will perform much better than its cost of 1 point.
Last: Picked him after Soulkey and BaBy, which meant a 3-pointer. He's the only 3-pointer who isn't playing this week. Too bad he looks a lot like one of my friends, but obviously, FPL>friends. Soulkey: Hasn't performed too overly well in SPL this season, so I'm hoping to count on that to go through. As with JYP, I mainly picked him because of his opponent, Cure (what more needs to be said about Cure?). TY: Like Soulkey, BaBy has been relatively underperforming this season. Soulkey and BaBy are both great players, though, so there are doubts in my mind about this antiteam. To my best judgment though, this is what I got. TY's opponent is sOs, a great player himself. I think sOs can do it, but mostly I'll just have to hope on this one.
One big disadvantage with my new method of taking things week by week is that you can't trade 8 players per round, and even if you could you'd end up down the drain in points, so it's still necessary to have a group of players who at their core are solid. I will probably end up trading much more this round than in previous ones; whether it'll help me or hurt me will soon be seen.
On January 28 2013 14:08 .kv wrote: Stats/Wooki/Dear/herO which one should I get
How does KT rank Stats and Wooki anyways?
I think Stats and Wooki are ranked equally, both should always play, but Flash is still the definite ace. I wouldn't get Stats, because he plays Rain the first week. (maybe trade for him after)
I think Dear is the overall best player out of them, but he doesn't have an easy opponent with Jaedong either. For the first week I would go with Wooki (who should be heavily favored against Best) and eventually trade depending on the next lineups.
For my main team I went with all mid-range players with my highest point players being Cure and Innovation at 6, and my lowest being JYP at 3. I did this because it seems to me that the 7 point players this round are a little bit risky, except for HerO who has looked pretty solid. Stork and free have had moments of awesomeness but I don't feel like they are 100% reliable. EffOrt has been pretty good but with the surge Hydra had in the last round I expect that EffOrt may miss out on some ace match opportunities, which is what you want from your high point players. That is why I chose Innovation and Cure. Innovation pretty much has the ace position locked down because other than possibly Dear, STX really doesn't have anyone else to send out. Cure will likely split ace match duties with Jaehoon, one being picked over the other based on the circumstances of each particular match.
After those two I chose Wooki at 5 points because he has shown that he has tremendous potential, and KT as a whole seemed to thrive in this round's format, as we saw in round 1. For my 3 lower point players I chose soO, Light, and JYP all because they are pretty consistent and are very likely to appear in just about every match. Light is the go to Terran for WJS, and soO is SKT's top zerg player, and they both seem to be pretty consistent. JYP may not be the top player on EGTL but they have showed confidence in him by playing him just about every round and even sending him out for the occasional ace match. He's consistently won about half of his matches so I expect him to continue that trend.
I also picked my team largely based on the lineups for week 1. Each and every player on my team is playing this week in match ups that I believe to be favorable to them. The only exception is Cure(Speed) vs Soulkey, that one could go either way.
For my anti-team, this guy pretty much already explained my thoughts perfectly. Thanks slowbacontron!
On January 28 2013 14:09 slowbacontron wrote: Last: Picked him after Soulkey and BaBy, which meant a 3-pointer. He's the only 3-pointer who isn't playing this week. Too bad he looks a lot like one of my friends, but obviously, FPL>friends. Soulkey: Hasn't performed too overly well in SPL this season, so I'm hoping to count on that to go through. As with JYP, I mainly picked him because of his opponent, Cure (what more needs to be said about Cure?). TY: Like Soulkey, BaBy has been relatively underperforming this season. Soulkey and BaBy are both great players, though, so there are doubts in my mind about this antiteam. To my best judgment though, this is what I got. TY's opponent is sOs, a great player himself. I think sOs can do it, but mostly I'll just have to hope on this one.
I think that the all-kill round was kind of crazy with a lot of players doing well that wouldn't usually and a lot of guys falling off a little bit. Most of the players I would have picked anyway are now lower in value so that allowed me to pick up somebody like Jaehoon at an 8 that I otherwise wouldn't have budgeted for to be honest.
For my main team I went with all mid-range players with my highest point players being Cure and Innovation at 6, and my lowest being JYP at 3. I did this because it seems to me that the 7 point players this round are a little bit risky, except for HerO who has looked pretty solid. Stork and free have had moments of awesomeness but I don't feel like they are 100% reliable. EffOrt has been pretty good but with the surge Hydra had in the last round I expect that EffOrt may miss out on some ace match opportunities, which is what you want from your high point players. That is why I chose Innovation and Cure. Innovation pretty much has the ace position locked down because other than possibly Dear, STX really doesn't have anyone else to send out. Cure will likely split ace match duties with Jaehoon, one being picked over the other based on the circumstances of each particular match.
After those two I chose Wooki at 5 points because he has shown that he has tremendous potential, and KT as a whole seemed to thrive in this round's format, as we saw in round 1. For my 3 lower point players I chose soO, Light, and JYP all because they are pretty consistent and are very likely to appear in just about every match. Light is the go to Terran for WJS, and soO is SKT's top zerg player, and they both seem to be pretty consistent. JYP may not be the top player on EGTL but they have showed confidence in him by playing him just about every round and even sending him out for the occasional ace match. He's consistently won about half of his matches so I expect him to continue that trend.
I also picked my team largely based on the lineups for week 1. Each and every player on my team is playing this week in match ups that I believe to be favorable to them. The only exception is Cure(Speed) vs Soulkey, that one could go either way.
On January 28 2013 14:09 slowbacontron wrote: Last: Picked him after Soulkey and BaBy, which meant a 3-pointer. He's the only 3-pointer who isn't playing this week. Too bad he looks a lot like one of my friends, but obviously, FPL>friends. Soulkey: Hasn't performed too overly well in SPL this season, so I'm hoping to count on that to go through. As with JYP, I mainly picked him because of his opponent, Cure (what more needs to be said about Cure?). TY: Like Soulkey, BaBy has been relatively underperforming this season. Soulkey and BaBy are both great players, though, so there are doubts in my mind about this antiteam. To my best judgment though, this is what I got. TY's opponent is sOs, a great player himself. I think sOs can do it, but mostly I'll just have to hope on this one.
Yes, good detective work. the bottom 3 matches are completely one sided and easy wins. JYP/Light are snipers and going to be situationally used. Innovation is a fine ace. Motive/SoO...Motive is not really that bad of a player and BeSt isnt that bad either although his performance in r2 was horrendous.
I feel youre throwing a wild curve ball with EG.TL but that's just me. I still feel Ty is T8's ace. even with Speed's better record in the past two rounds. Look at babys opponents. They have been tough. He's a good player overall, the mechanically most gifted player on the team.
Bisu because I honestly think he will start to shine this round. He's been really quiet and it doesn't make sense to me. He has the people to look to, Rain/Parting and has the mechanics to back up the strategies.
HerO because he's HerO and he's awesome. He streamed for 35 hours the other day so I don't think he's fucking around anymore.
JangBi because it really seems like he's practicing hard as possible. His skills improved so rapidly so that was the only possible solution. Him being JangBi, I don't think he's at his cap yet.
Major because I know he practices a lot. Also, Major's wanted this for a long time so he should be trying his absolute hardest.
Revival because he's a solid player. Worst case scenario he will net me a few points.
SoO is a solid ass player. He gets sent out a lot so it's obvious that his team trusts him.
Bisu because I honestly think he will start to shine this round. He's been really quiet and it doesn't make sense to me. He has the people to look to, Rain/Parting and has the mechanics to back up the strategies.
HerO because he's HerO and he's awesome. He streamed for 35 hours the other day so I don't think he's fucking around anymore.
JangBi because it really seems like he's practicing hard as possible. His skills improved so rapidly so that was the only possible solution. Him being JangBi, I don't think he's at his cap yet.
Major because I know he practices a lot. Also, Major's wanted this for a long time so he should be trying his absolute hardest.
Revival because he's a solid player. Worst case scenario he will net me a few points.
SoO is a solid ass player. He gets sent out a lot so it's obvious that his team trusts him.
Major is not going to get sent out very often.. If he was Toss; he'd have a better chance but T8's two best players just happen to be terran unfortunately. Bisu... SKT T1 Toss: Rain, Best Paralyze, Bisu. Right now. Bisu's performance is dead last of that group. when parting comes, he's going to be pushed back even further. Bisu has a long way to go. If you want to go old school; Leta is the better choice. Why? Because CJ only has one capable toss in herO.
On January 28 2013 13:07 NightWulF wrote: I chose this team because it contained many player i love!!!!!!! and also i feel that hero and jaedong will score me MANY POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cure(Speed) - I needed a Terran and I originally was going to use Baby but he is matched up against sOs which I don't think he will come out victorious. Having said that, I had to modify my original roster and replay Baby with Cure. Cure is a very consistent Terran and hopefully he prevails for me against Soulkey. Soulkey likes to go Mutas and the map isn't good for that style. Plus Cure is 6-2 against Zerg so I like my chances.
Dear - He has been tearing it up lately and faces Jaedong this week. Jaedong loves to go Muta and I don't particularly think this map is good for Mutas. At the same time, I remember 10p being very strong on this map (not sure if this is still true) so I'm a bit worried. Nevertheless, if Dear can push this to late game, I feel like his control is better than Jaedong's in the late game.
Mekia(fOKINS) - I needed a Zerg and it had to be a 1 point player. I originally had Paralyze (2 points) but since I added Cure to the team, I needed to deduct a point from one of my players. I decided why not the one I don't really care. I chose this Zerg as well because he's on WJS which I think will do very well this round.
P7GAB(Wooki) - A very potent Protoss player from KT Rolster. I was deciding between him and Stats and herO to be on my team. Stats faces Rain in a PvP matchup and I just don't know what's going to happen especially when Rain has the likes of PartinG to practice with. herO is such a steal at just 5 points in my opinion but his first opponent is JangBi who is doing quite well recently so I was a bit worried about that. "Covered in Blood" has to face BeSt who hasn't really been doing good so I like my chances.
sOs(Shy) - sOs is very consistent and is on one of the best KeSPA teams right now. His opponent is TY who performed weak in Round 2. I'm hoping sOs can pull through for me on this but Akilon Flats is a bit weird for me. I'm not too sure which race has the advantage on this map.
Terminator(Sang) - Entombed Valley is a Protoss favored map in the Proleague at the moment with a record of 20-10 I believe in favor of Protoss in the PvT matchup. Hopefully that luck translate to a victory for Terminator. If not, it's okay as I still believe in him as he has shown me decent results in the past.
SK Telecom T1 - Only at 1 point is a travesty. Though the team hasn't been performing well, the talent in that team is unquestionable up there with the top teams. Hopefully this team can pull together and win some games this round.
Anti-Team
Jaedong - He faces Dear who is on my team. I'm not too confident on how Jaedong will perform in this matchup. I wanted to have one steep player so I can grab a cheap player as well in my anti-team.
Light - He faces Terminator on the map Entombed Valley. This isn't a good sign for him and he hasn't really impressed me in round 2.
s2 - He faces Flash this week. He's my cheap player. The only downside is he is on SKTT1 though so we'll see how this panes out.
For main team, Jangbi fucked my antiteam last time, so he is the captain this time. Effort and Soulkey are good zergs in good teams and have ace potential. Terminator did ok last time, and I think he will continue to do so. Classic is picked because he plays Puma today (free points) and Thorzain, because I have faith in him. Samsung Khan as my team because I feel for compared to other 2pts teams, they will perform better.
Anti-team.
Rain is not in that good shape anymore and even though he is an ace, I doubt SKT1 will be spending time too much there based on recent results. Crazy Hydra from KTRolster because random player needed and his performance has not been magnificient and Puma because...well 1-1-1 does not work anymore.
For my anti-team, this guy pretty much already explained my thoughts perfectly. Thanks slowbacontron!
High five, same-antiteam buddy! I also really like the Innovation-Cure combo a lot of people are sporting but I'm just not 100% sure if I can trust Bogus so far.
On January 28 2013 15:07 NicksonReyes wrote: Soyul Noona
I saw the potential for a mostly KT team of 5 pointers working well, though I haven't gone with that. It was something like P7GAB, Stats, Action, hero[jOin] Light and Crazy-Hydra with KT, only that adds up to 31 so I think it must have been someone else instead of herO maybe?
Yeah, that's the sort I was thinking of. Well done.
My team: Suzaku Sky Dance
Main Team 2 Bbyong CJ, they should keep performing reasonably well, better than Round 1 at least. I just expect him to get Team wins, some line-up points after this week (not a likely ace) and the occasional win. Hopefully he plays 50% of weeks and wins half of the games, that should net plenty of points for only a 2 point value.
3 Bravo(hon_sin) (captain) I can't see him doing abysmally, so he seems a good choice for captain, he might go up in value a lot of he actually keeps playing and playing well, so it might be a shame not to be able to trade him, but then his point value still might not end up that high. Should be a solid choice, especially for only 3 points AND he's a Woongjin boy!
7 Effort I could have gone with Free (also 7), who is also on Woongjin and I like a lot AND performed even better over all than EffOrt, but I feel like EffOrt is hitting great form and feel like gambling on that. *Fingers crossed* Oh, plus I need a zerg so I'd have to take say Crazy-Hydra instead of Light to manage it. Not taking Hydra was also a hard decision, but I wanted to go with Woongjin as the team and feel like Hydra will continue to be solid, but won't necessarily repeat his great form. There's only so much one player can do, two wins in one series at most, so I felt that the one point would be better spent getting more a solid player (4 instead of 4 or 3 instead of 2 points).
4 Light His losses were to particularly good players. Well OK, Jaehoon and fairly good players, sort of top of the middle. Revival has been reasonable all-round, anyway, it's mainly the angry moron fans of EG-TL + Show Spoiler +
(not all of them, just the angry moron ones)
that are calling him bad.
One might debate (losing to) Stork, but I was right about him (Stork) all through Round 2.: Anti-team originally, then swapped out at one stage, right when I felt like he wasn't really playing so badly and might pick up, especially with Jangbi playing really well for the most part, albeit a little inconsistently. Good morale and training with Jangbi would help his performances, I thought. He played fairly well after that. Guess who I swapped for? I was deciding between Baby and Bogus and while Baby's apparent rating and trade value was a tad higher and I felt that while I didn't think Bogus had played very well, he'd lost to pretty good players for the most part and I felt he would improve as well, while Baby had not impressed at all in game, nor were his opponents particularly fierce. Next match? Bogus played and beat Baby, then All-killed Team 8. So without a stellar Round 2, I found plenty of satisfaction in it.
5 P7GAB(Wooki) And soon, all his enemies will be covered in blood... Honestly, I don't think Wooki is the best player out there, but he can beat some pretty good players and I'm not relying on him for many kills. 5 points for him is probably going to be a "Come on, TL staff, you really thought he was only worth FIVE?? ¯\_(シ)_/¯" moment. He is up against...wait, no that's Stats again Rain. Haha. Hahahhhaa! Mwuhahahaaa! BeSt is playing as badly as Bisu, I say, he's just being played, that's all.
5 Stats Up against Rain? Stats 화이팅! There's a fair chance of points, probably better than a lot of other strong vs strong player match-ups in the first round, he's on KT and his overall record is pretty good. Aside from TRUE, he only lost to other very good players, Hydra and Free, both of whom were in especially good form with plenty of wins including an All-Kill each. He was only reasonable for my FPL last round (I would say), but then he wasn't actually played that much. 5 points is cheap for him. I originally had herO[jOin] here as he seem like he might keep getting better, but overall Stats' form is just much better and KT | CJ is just w/e.
Anti Team 6 Jaedong Can be pretty fearsome but we're out of All-KIll so this is even safer now. EG-TL probably won't suddenly start thumping everyone either, so the points gained from the team shouldn't be as harsh as that of some other potential choices for the anti-team that were worth similar amounts. His first opponent is Dear, too, who I think did look quite good in his San-Kill versus EG-TL last week.
5 TY(Baby) Keep sucking like the game is your dummy and I'll give you a lollipop at the end of the season! ^_^
Round 1 was basically won by KT fan-boys, Round 2 by people who chose Hydra. There are some high up who chose Free, Jangbi etc, but I think a LOT of the really high ones got lucky with him (good judgement sure, but the sheer difference in points gained between particular players is a BIG factor). Hopefully Round 3 will see All-round solid players and Woongjin succeed (but with EffOrt outperforming Free to give me my money's worth).
In your opinion would it be smart to trade for Taeja now that we can because he doesn't play this week? Edit: I guess this might not be possible for some reason...
On January 31 2013 22:01 elfonse wrote: Should i trade Jangbi for innovation? Jangbi has a pretty hard road this week
The only really hard match for both players should be JangBi vs. HerO which could go either way, depending on the form of HerO. I don't see him losing against Myungsik but who knows, those underrated SKT1 players have been cleaning rouse in week 1. Innovation is up against Aria and SkyHigh, both matches that he should win on paper any day. Team matches are against SKT1/CJ and EGTL/KT which doesn't really favor any of those two. Both of JangBi's matches are the 5th which means that he wouldn't get to play in case of a quick 4-0 and Innovation has a higher chance of playing any ace matches. So yeah, I would go for the trade.
Speaking of trades, I was wondering whether it would be worth it to trade either Action or Soulkey for Revival. -Action has harder matches (Ty and RorO) but is guaranteed to play every time. -Soulkey's matches are against Dear and Fantasy which both could go either way. They are the 6th and 5th games though, not sure if he gets to play at all. His performance was so-so lately + Show Spoiler [GSL Spoiler] +
though he won his GSL matches today in a very convincing manner.
-Revival has the easiest opponents this weak but is the least tested of the pack when it comes to proleague. Week 1 was not THAT convincing and one of his games is the 6th of the match. Really torn picking two out of those three players, any one else with an opinion of them?
main innovation - I picked him for being awesome and appearing almost every time for his team, he's also pretty damn solid. reality - Same reason as above. jangbi - I picked jangbi as captain because he's always on the roster to play, and he's very good to add to that. Wooki - i needed a decent player with low score because i already had pretty high picks, and Wooki seemed to fit nicely. soulkey - Super solid zerg player Zenio - Very likely starter for EGTL
anti Action Im not sure why i picked him, i guess i needed somebody with a high score to reach the max points of the anti team. Puma Has been doing terrible in proleague, so it was a safe bet i feel. Stephano Im guessing he wont be playing all that much, but im thinking this might bite me in the ass.
Did i do this correctly? this is my first FPL :S Did i just make the worst team ever? or did i do decently, cant tell just now.
On January 31 2013 22:01 elfonse wrote: Should i trade Jangbi for innovation? Jangbi has a pretty hard road this week
The only really hard match for both players should be JangBi vs. HerO which could go either way, depending on the form of HerO. I don't see him losing against Myungsik but who knows, those underrated SKT1 players have been cleaning rouse in week 1. Innovation is up against Aria and SkyHigh, both matches that he should win on paper any day. Team matches are against SKT1/CJ and EGTL/KT which doesn't really favor any of those two. Both of JangBi's matches are the 5th which means that he wouldn't get to play in case of a quick 4-0 and Innovation has a higher chance of playing any ace matches. So yeah, I would go for the trade.
what about Jangbi for speed. The only problem is speed vs JYP which is on my team
So i choose (T)Classic (T)Bogus and (P)Trap because they played against EGTL the first week (EZ win). They will play twice this week so i decided to keep them. (Z)Crazy-Hydra win his first game too, no need to trad.
I took (T)Flash and KT Rolster because they were the most expensive and i wanted to show that i have the biggest(player and team) . But they didn't do well this week. I still believe in them and hope they will do better in the future.
(Z)SonGDuri is a new player in my team. I had (P)Motive the first week but he lost and he won't play so i had to trad him. I don't know if my new player is good or not but he is zerg so skill doesn't matter to win ( ) and one of his game is ZvZ which is completely random
I choose 3 EGTL players for my anti team because they don't care about the Proleague. Even if (Z)Jaedong and (P)HerO scare me i didn't find a safe trade for them so instead i trade (T)PuMa against someone who don't play this week.