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Edit: In light of recent revalations, First is no longer first.
Note that again, so many matches from the past have been added that I recomputed the whole history, thus there can be some disconnect between this post and my last one.
Zerg is still ahead and Protoss is still behind, but not nearly as much as before (about ±5%).
The top 10 has changed quite a bit.
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 Life 2691
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 First 2686
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 Bomber 2591
- Sniper 2546
- DongRaeGu 2523
- PartinG 2506
- Symbol 2423
- Maru 2405
- Monster 2403
- Polt 2360
First makes an appearance after IEM, going 27-3 in total these two weeks and gaining 495 points. Parting loses some points after particularly disappointing PvT performances against Lucifron and Dream. Life also drops from first place, presumably because of the IPL International Regional. That's also where we find our honourable mention, Absolute, who was rated a dismal 569, and then went 6-2 against Byul, Life and Snute, giving him a new rating of 2510! He would be fifth on the list if his uncertainty wasn't so high. He is also a major contributor to Life, Byul and Snute losing a lot of points. FAIL
Here are the foreigners.- Scarlett 2345
- VortiX 2190
- Sen 2115
- XiGua 2016
- Stephano 2009
- LucifroN 2002
- LiveZerg 1973
- Socke 1972
- Welmu 1966
- Fraer 1955
Not a good two weeks for the foreigners. On this list, only Scarlett, LiveZerg and Socke managed to gain points.
Top 10 teams by all-kill score:- MVP 95.07%
- StarTale 94.62%
- Incredible Miracle 92.80%
- SK Telecom T1 90.68%
- FXOpen e-Sports Kore 89.77%
- AZUBU 87.80%
- Prime 86.12%
- Team Liquid 84.72%
- Evil Geniuses 83.87%
- STX SouL 83.81%
StarTale has lost some players, and those who stayed lost some points (Parting most significantly). MVP and IM has caught up a bit now. The Proleague-style list looks almost identical, except that STX passes EG, TL drops out of the list and Woongjin sneaks in on 10th place.
A list of new features (quite a few this week):
+ Show Spoiler [New features] +- Results are now browsable by event. Almost two thirds of the database have been catalogued so far (it's hard work). You can also find the event page by clicking on the title of a match on any page it's displayed (e.g. results by date or match history). If a link is available there will be a white triangle on the left. If it's not there, those matches are still not catalogued. - You can also search the results. - The rating adjustments page shows more information than it did before, giving a relatively detailed insight into the workings of the rating system. (Not perfect, but more than before at least.) I'm aware it can look strange sometimes, please refer to the FAQ before complaining. - Search has been heavily improved. This applies to searching for results, finding players for the match predictions and also the little box in the top right. You can now type player tags, team names, aliases (e.g. DRG instead of DongRaeGu), countries with both two- and three-letter codes as well as common English names, races (P, T, Z, R=Random and S=Race switcher). That should be quite enough to never have to use ID numbers I think. - I added another requirement for showing up on the list. You need to have played a game during the last four periods (about two months) and have a rating uncertainty of less than 200. - You can filter the rating list by race and nationality (Koreans and foreigners). - The menus are reorganized a bit. Most significantly, you will see some player-specific menu items on the player-specific pages. - There is a new database page where you can view some stats, as well as download a SQL dump of the whole thing for private projects. This SQL dump includes all player, match, team and rating information on the site. - Rating deviations are now displayed on the player page, indicating the confidence level of a rating. - The player rating plot has changed a bit. The lines are thinner and clearer. The rating deviation is also shown as a thick light grey area surrounding the black line, you can see how the deviation increases over time when someone doesn't play, it's particularly clear on Lucifron's page. I've also made the graph smoother and more pleasing to the eye. You can input dates to change the range, and you can also click the graph to get a bigger version.
I'd also like to ask the community for some help.
First, I just implemented support for Random players and Race switchers, and thus also support for people who have changed races, but the bookkeeping has been spotty on this point. I know I have to fix Morrow and TLO most significantly. There's also Gumiho and Guineapig. Any others? Players, dates, any info could be of use.
Second, my team of four (more or less) have been busting their asses over the last two weeks cataloguing 20,000 matches by events and adding results where they were missing, but we're still only four, and the work is pretty extensive. Any volunteers who are willing to help us in any way are very welcome. I've made the database freely available in the hopes of turning this into a sort of community effort instead of my pet project. Just shoot me a PM!
This week, more than any other week, my thanks go to Conti, kiekaboe and Grovbolle for their monstrous effort in event cataloguing. This project wouldn't be what it is without them.
Finally, here is Grovbolle's essay on KeSPA players, which he asked me to post along with this thread.
Tracking the herd.-By Grovbolle This small segment runs through the movement through the ranks of the so called elephants, I focus on the big guns from Brood War, meaning that a player like Rain isn’t in this write-up. I cover the players which I consider to be those with the biggest pressure on their shoulders to perform well. The list is as follows (in no specific order). ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.png) Flash - 2398 -> 2196 Starting off with Flash we see that he hasn’t had a good last 2 weeks. Having Only played 5 matches during the last period and losing to players like ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.png) free and Speed(Cure), Which are both low-ranked, means that he has dropped from 2250 to 2196. However do note that Flash’s Up’N’Down results were counted in the previous period. FanTaSy - 1939 -> 1809 The terrorist has quite a few games to be added to the New list. Notably his wins against finale and ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.png) NesTea in his Up’N’Down group scored him some points against highly rated opponents, so did his win over sOs in the match between SKT T1 and Woongjin Stars. His loss to the almost unknown Center as well as the losses to Light and Flying means that he comes out on the new list with only 1809 points however. Jaedong - 2364 -> 2330 EG’s Jaedong has played both the Wildcard Group in GSL, IPL Qualifiers as well as in 2 proleague matches since last list. He has beaten high-rated players such as Symbol, GuMiho, Brown, Monster and Soulkey. The Tyrant however also lost to much lower rated players like Center, Byun and Jaehoon. Pushing Jaedong from 2364 to 2330 JangBi - 2096 -> 2150 The last BW OSL champion (with back-to-back victories might I add) has had a great period beating the likes of HerO (or 11 as we call him), PuMa, Revival and Flash, while losing only to hyvaa and Rain. Boosting him from 2096 to 2150 Stork - 1880 -> 1881 Like most of the Kespa players Stork’s results come from playing Proleague. Having only lost to players with a higher rating than himself, while beating players with lower ratings as well as both Rain and Last, Stork gains a single point  Bisu - 1629 -> 1629 I could write a lot about how Bisu have disappointed the people believing in the elephant theory , however his 1661 points is still fairly respectable, and with a 2K rating against zerg he can’t be as bad as what people proclaim. Having played no matches during the last 2 weeks he has gained/lost no points. Soulkey - 2213 -> 2184 Soulkey have played five matches since last week’s list. Having lost to Rain and Jaedong who are higher rated than him, as well as a loss to Dear cost him points. Soulkey did beat Revival and Classic though who both have a 1900+ rating against Z meaning that Soulkey moves from 2213 to 2184.
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A rank twelve Scarlett is fairly impressive. I look forward to seeing these every couple of weeks, good going BB.
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thx TheBB, i am always looking forward to the updates!
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Please volunteer guys. I am afraid Kiekaboe and Conti soon will stop functioning. These guys are like match-adding robots
http://aligulac.com/db/ check those numbers. :D
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On January 24 2013 22:13 Grovbolle wrote:Please volunteer guys. I am afraid Kiekaboe and Conti soon will stop functioning. These guys are like match-adding robots http://aligulac.com/db/ check those numbers. :D
Yeah, they're crazy, but you're right, we can't keep going like we've done the last two weeks.
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I'm just doing whatever I can to avoid learning for exams. >.>
Seriously though, we do need more volunteers! There's tons of stuff to do, and given TheBB's obsession with adding cool new features to the site practically every week, I doubt we'll run out of work soon.
Stuff you can do:
- Add matches do the ever growing database!
- Categorize matches into events to make them easier to navigate! For older events (pre 2011) this turns into a fun puzzle game of finding the exact matchups, dates and results from all over the internet!
- Add teams! And more importantly, keep the team lists up to date! Be the first to update a recent player signing for that extra warm fuzzy feeling in your tummy.
- Find errors and correct them. A wrong date here, mistaken players with the same name there. We'll never run out of those.
- Add various information about players, such as real names, birth dates and external links!
- NEW FEATURE: Add well known aliases of players and teams!
- Poke TheBB for new features! New feature implementation guaranteed!*
- And much more!
It's fun for the whole family!
*Guarantee not guaranteed
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What is "Aligulac"? I've never heard of this, is it some kind of unofficial ELO ranking project or something? If so, who decides the rules, weighting for tournaments or opponents from the outset, etc.?
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On January 24 2013 22:38 Conti wrote:I'm just doing whatever I can to avoid learning for exams. >.> Seriously though, we do need more volunteers! There's tons of stuff to do, and given TheBB's obsession with adding cool new features to the site practically every week, I doubt we'll run out of work soon. Stuff you can do: - Add matches do the ever growing database!
- Categorize matches into events to make them easier to navigate! For older events (pre 2011) this turns into a fun puzzle game of finding the exact matchups, dates and results from all over the internet!
- Add teams! And more importantly, keep the team lists up to date! Be the first to update a recent player signing for that extra warm fuzzy feeling in your tummy.
- Find errors and correct them. A wrong date here, mistaken players with the same name there. We'll never run out of those.
- Add various information about players, such as real names, birth dates and external links!
- NEW FEATURE: Add well known aliases of players and teams!
- Poke TheBB for new features! New feature implementation guaranteed!*
- And much more!
It's fun for the whole family! *Guarantee not guaranteed
Best part.
Me: "Hey Eivind, can you please implement XX without breaking the whole database"
TheBB: "Sure"
Me: "U BROKE IT"
TheBB: "Sorry about that"
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On January 24 2013 22:42 JackReacher wrote:
What is "Aligulac"? I've never heard of this, is it some kind of unofficial ELO ranking project or something? If so, who decides the rules, weighting for tournaments or opponents from the outset, etc.?
http://aligulac.com/faq/
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Your scores are wrong. When you use data from stuff like IPL's online international qualifier, you need to keep in mind that the connections between account names you see in the brackets and the actual players are tenuous at best, and while the people who update the Liquipedia do their best (DiMaNo is amazing), sometimes it's hard to pin down who the actual players are...
Case in point, the player who beat Life in the quarterfinals is actually IMYonghwa, not a no-name Terran called Absolute. All those scores you have with Absolute are invalid.
Edit: Looks like the bracket on Liquipedia is already more up-to-date than whichever source you got your data from. All thanks to DiMaNo's hard work. He did a lot of detective work on his own, trying to figure out who the players behind the account names really are.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_6/International_Regional_1
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
Thanks for this guys, I always like to stay up to date with your rankings :D
Edit: OMG so many changes to the site! o.0
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On January 24 2013 22:53 sitromit wrote:Your scores are wrong. When you use data from stuff like IPL's online international qualifier, you need to keep in mind that the connections between account names you see in the brackets and the actual players are tenuous at best, and while the people who update the Liquipedia do their best (DiMaNo is amazing), sometimes it's hard to pin down who the actual players are... Case in point, the player who beat Life in the quarterfinals is actually IMYonghwa, not a no-name Terran called Absolute. All those scores you have with Absolute are invalid. Edit: Looks like the bracket on Liquipedia is already more up-to-date than whichever source you got your data from. All thanks to DiMaNo's hard work. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_6/International_Regional_1
Thanks for the heads up. Liquipedia was our source, actually, and they also listed Absolute (T) instead of Yonghwa (P) at the time. (Check the history.)
Fixed now. This puts Life back in first place.
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life not on 1st place autmatically invalidates the whole ranking
on a serious note i dont think taking online qualifier results into account is a good idea unless we are sure the data is 100% correct, we arent even sure whether the games have been walkovers or other players than their account name suggests played
just saw above that absolute doesnt even exist and was in fact yongwha haha
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On January 24 2013 22:43 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 22:38 Conti wrote:I'm just doing whatever I can to avoid learning for exams. >.> Seriously though, we do need more volunteers! There's tons of stuff to do, and given TheBB's obsession with adding cool new features to the site practically every week, I doubt we'll run out of work soon. Stuff you can do: - Add matches do the ever growing database!
- Categorize matches into events to make them easier to navigate! For older events (pre 2011) this turns into a fun puzzle game of finding the exact matchups, dates and results from all over the internet!
- Add teams! And more importantly, keep the team lists up to date! Be the first to update a recent player signing for that extra warm fuzzy feeling in your tummy.
- Find errors and correct them. A wrong date here, mistaken players with the same name there. We'll never run out of those.
- Add various information about players, such as real names, birth dates and external links!
- NEW FEATURE: Add well known aliases of players and teams!
- Poke TheBB for new features! New feature implementation guaranteed!*
- And much more!
It's fun for the whole family! *Guarantee not guaranteed Best part. Me: "Hey Eivind, can you please implement XX without breaking the whole database" TheBB: "Sure" Me: "U BROKE IT" TheBB: "Sorry about that"
both comments are so true lol
theBB keeps adding cool new features and it's lots of fun working on the site
On January 24 2013 22:53 sitromit wrote:Your scores are wrong. When you use data from stuff like IPL's online international qualifier, you need to keep in mind that the connections between account names you see in the brackets and the actual players are tenuous at best, and while the people who update the Liquipedia do their best (DiMaNo is amazing), sometimes it's hard to pin down who the actual players are... Case in point, the player who beat Life in the quarterfinals is actually IMYonghwa, not a no-name Terran called Absolute. All those scores you have with Absolute are invalid. Edit: Looks like the bracket on Liquipedia is already more up-to-date than whichever source you got your data from. All thanks to DiMaNo's hard work. He did a lot of detective work on his own, trying to figure out who the players behind the account names really are. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_6/International_Regional_1
sorry, my bad... When I was looking on Liquipedia yesterday it was saying Absolute  Didn't check it afterwards
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On January 24 2013 23:10 TheBB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 22:53 sitromit wrote:Your scores are wrong. When you use data from stuff like IPL's online international qualifier, you need to keep in mind that the connections between account names you see in the brackets and the actual players are tenuous at best, and while the people who update the Liquipedia do their best (DiMaNo is amazing), sometimes it's hard to pin down who the actual players are... Case in point, the player who beat Life in the quarterfinals is actually IMYonghwa, not a no-name Terran called Absolute. All those scores you have with Absolute are invalid. Edit: Looks like the bracket on Liquipedia is already more up-to-date than whichever source you got your data from. All thanks to DiMaNo's hard work. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_6/International_Regional_1 Thanks for the heads up. Liquipedia was our source, actually, and they also listed Absolute (T) instead of Yonghwa (P) at the time. (Check the history.) Fixed now. This puts Life back in first place.
Yes, I know Liquipedia was wrong initially, that's why I said you need to be careful when you use scores like this. Losira was Tarson in the brackets, until we figured out who it really was, for example.
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On January 24 2013 23:13 Tsubbi wrote:
just saw above that absolute doesnt even exist and was in fact yongwha haha
Ha, yeah, that was a fail. But to be fair, he DOES exist.
http://aligulac.com/players/1530/
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fair enough anyways i LOVE you website and all the work you put into it! keeps getting better and better too
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..which is precisely why we need more guys helping out with this. More eyes > less errors.
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This brings up an issue though. For example, one reason we figured out that Tarson was in fact Losira, is because I asked "how on earth did Tarson beat Ragnarok?".
The Absolute=Yonghwa connection would have been figured out sooner or later, since Yonghwa went deep in the tournament, but because Losira got 2-0'ed by Life in the next round after beating Ragnarok, that one could have easily stayed undetected, and stayed in the brackets as Tarson.
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On January 24 2013 23:22 sitromit wrote:
This brings up an issue though. For example, one reason we figured out that Tarson was in fact Losira, is because I asked "how on earth did Tarson beat Ragnarok?".
The Absolute=Yonghwa connection would have been figured out sooner or later, since Yonghwa went deep in the tournament, but because Losira got 2-0'ed by Life in the next round after beating Ragnarok, that one could have easily stayed undetected, and stayed in the brackets as Tarson.
It's definitely something that comes up. For instance, while categorizing some older events with the new event feature I found Vile's Illusion playing in some smaller Korean tournaments, strangely enough. Turns out it was actually  IceCream, who used to play under the name Illusion at the time. As I said above, mistakes happen. The database (like any other database) is not error-free. The more guys we get to actually look at the results, though, the better and more reliable it becomes.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Great work, (try to) keep it up!
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It seems that the "Most Specialized" category now again includes people with very few games played (J). Is this intentional?
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Maru up there? Since when is he not awful again? (genuine curiosity, I thought he hadn't been good since the first GSL).
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A huge shift occured, I didn't expect someone like HyuN to fall so hard, or Maru to jump just because he did well at one team league tournament :/
I still find somethings quite dubious, but I guess it has a general ranking of players, just not as accurate as I think it is.
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On January 25 2013 01:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
A huge shift occured, I didn't expect someone like HyuN to fall so hard, or Maru to jump just because he did well at one team league tournament :/
I still find somethings quite dubious, but I guess it has a general ranking of players, just not as accurate as I think it is.
That's what I thought both about Hyun and when I saw Maru. I'm not saying he's bad, but he's nowhere near the caliber of players he finds himself among on the rankings. Consistency seems to be suspect here :x
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Wow ! very nice improvements !
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Was it normal in BW for all of the very top players to have below 64% winrate ?
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On January 25 2013 02:32 Apolo wrote:
Was it normal in BW for all of the very top players to have below 64% winrate ?
Yeah. A winrate of 70% and above was usually considered extraordinary and only held by the likes of Flash or Jaedong, if I remember correctly.
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On January 25 2013 02:05 Mortal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 01:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
A huge shift occured, I didn't expect someone like HyuN to fall so hard, or Maru to jump just because he did well at one team league tournament :/
I still find somethings quite dubious, but I guess it has a general ranking of players, just not as accurate as I think it is. That's what I thought both about Hyun and when I saw Maru. I'm not saying he's bad, but he's nowhere near the caliber of players he finds himself among on the rankings. Consistency seems to be suspect here :x
Maru only won during the last period, whereas HyuN lost to players with much lower ranking than him.
HyuN's results during the last period
Remember that when you are highly ranked, losing to almost anyone will cost you points.
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On January 25 2013 02:32 Apolo wrote:
Was it normal in BW for all of the very top players to have below 64% winrate ?
It depends. Brood War was far less volatile in terms of who could beat who simply because of game design and the way it allowed a skilled player to outperform his opponent in more than just a few ways.
FlaSh is the only one who still holds an overall winrate of over 70%, whereas the other S-Class players fall somewhere between 60-70%. Of course I'm talking overall here, not just a streak in a tournament, or a month, or even a year, but the entire career. I'd still wager towards saying no, it wasn't normal, unless they were already years past their prime (think NaDa, oov, July etc)
But yeah I don't think a comparison to BW is warranted since the game was much more stable, with fewer upsets and fewer tournaments in general. Because, imagine if FlaSh, JaeDong or sAviOr had to play in a different major tournament every other month, most of which being gauntlet 3 or 4 day events with open brackets and online qualifiers allowing all sorts of darkhorses through, not to mention the toll travel would take on them... I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to reach quite the same peaks that they actually did. Then again, we've seen that in SC2 even the preparation format of GSL and OSL yields a lot of unpredictability and upsets still. Who knows...
[yes this was worth my 1337th post]
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@OP: Something is amiss here:
Top 10 teams by all-kill score:
MVP 95.07%
StarTale 94.62%
Incredible Miracle 92.80%
SK Telecom T1 90.68%
FXOpen e-Sports Kore 89.77%
AZUBU 87.80%
Prime 86.12%
Team Liquid 84.72%
Evil Geniuses 83.87%
STX SouL 83.81%
StarTale has lost some players, and those who stayed lost some points (Parting most significantly). MVP and IM has caught up a bit now. The Proleague-style list looks almost identical, except that STX passes EG, TL drops out of the list and Woongjin sneaks in on 10th place.
Otherwise, good job
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On January 25 2013 03:14 Ender985 wrote:@OP: Something is amiss here: Show nested quote +Top 10 teams by all-kill score:
MVP 95.07%
StarTale 94.62%
Incredible Miracle 92.80%
SK Telecom T1 90.68%
FXOpen e-Sports Kore 89.77%
AZUBU 87.80%
Prime 86.12%
Team Liquid 84.72%
Evil Geniuses 83.87%
STX SouL 83.81%
StarTale has lost some players, and those who stayed lost some points (Parting most significantly). MVP and IM has caught up a bit now. The Proleague-style list looks almost identical, except that STX passes EG, TL drops out of the list and Woongjin sneaks in on 10th place. Otherwise, good job
Unless you mean the has/have mistake, I don't quite see it. Thanks for being specific....
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Thank you for all the effort you continue to put into this. You, sir, are a scholar and gentleman!
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There's some bug that makes list 1 look kinda silly.
+ Show Spoiler +
Best overall
Orly (1442)
Best vs. Protoss
Orly (1749)
Best vs. Terran
Orly (1521)
Best vs. Zerg
Orly (1056)
Most specialised vP
Orly (+307)
Most specialised vT
Orly (+79)
Most specialised vZ
Orly (+-386)
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On January 25 2013 06:13 delHospital wrote:There's some bug that makes list 1 look kinda silly. + Show Spoiler +
Best overall
Orly (1442)
Best vs. Protoss
Orly (1749)
Best vs. Terran
Orly (1521)
Best vs. Zerg
Orly (1056)
Most specialised vP
Orly (+307)
Most specialised vT
Orly (+79)
Most specialised vZ
Orly (+-386)
Haven't you heard of Orly's dominant run back then? He was literally unbeatable!
On a more serious note, this appears to be a result of Orly being the only player in that period who had enough matches to be listed in the ranking. Here you can see a list of all games being played in that period.
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On January 25 2013 06:13 delHospital wrote:There's some bug that makes list 1 look kinda silly. + Show Spoiler +
Best overall
Orly (1442)
Best vs. Protoss
Orly (1749)
Best vs. Terran
Orly (1521)
Best vs. Zerg
Orly (1056)
Most specialised vP
Orly (+307)
Most specialised vT
Orly (+79)
Most specialised vZ
Orly (+-386)
Orly is badass :D
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On January 25 2013 05:48 TheBB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 03:14 Ender985 wrote:@OP: Something is amiss here: Top 10 teams by all-kill score:
MVP 95.07%
StarTale 94.62%
Incredible Miracle 92.80%
SK Telecom T1 90.68%
FXOpen e-Sports Kore 89.77%
AZUBU 87.80%
Prime 86.12%
Team Liquid 84.72%
Evil Geniuses 83.87%
STX SouL 83.81%
StarTale has lost some players, and those who stayed lost some points (Parting most significantly). MVP and IM has caught up a bit now. The Proleague-style list looks almost identical, except that STX passes EG, TL drops out of the list and Woongjin sneaks in on 10th place. Otherwise, good job Unless you mean the has/have mistake, I don't quite see it. Thanks for being specific....
Nah, i actually think he means the Parting bit. You say:
"StarTale has lost some players, and those who stayed lost some points (Parting most significantly)."
But PartinG is on SKT now and didn't stay. Perhaps i understand it wrong, but idk.
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On January 25 2013 18:37 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 05:48 TheBB wrote:On January 25 2013 03:14 Ender985 wrote:@OP: Something is amiss here: Top 10 teams by all-kill score:
MVP 95.07%
StarTale 94.62%
Incredible Miracle 92.80%
SK Telecom T1 90.68%
FXOpen e-Sports Kore 89.77%
AZUBU 87.80%
Prime 86.12%
Team Liquid 84.72%
Evil Geniuses 83.87%
STX SouL 83.81%
StarTale has lost some players, and those who stayed lost some points (Parting most significantly). MVP and IM has caught up a bit now. The Proleague-style list looks almost identical, except that STX passes EG, TL drops out of the list and Woongjin sneaks in on 10th place. Otherwise, good job Unless you mean the has/have mistake, I don't quite see it. Thanks for being specific.... Nah, i actually think he means the Parting bit. You say: "StarTale has lost some players, and those who stayed lost some points (Parting most significantly)." But PartinG is on SKT now and didn't stay. Perhaps i understand it wrong, but idk.
Definitely a mistake. Great catch
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Thanks for putting so much effort into this. Please continue!
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On January 25 2013 18:37 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 05:48 TheBB wrote:On January 25 2013 03:14 Ender985 wrote:@OP: Something is amiss here: Top 10 teams by all-kill score:
MVP 95.07%
StarTale 94.62%
Incredible Miracle 92.80%
SK Telecom T1 90.68%
FXOpen e-Sports Kore 89.77%
AZUBU 87.80%
Prime 86.12%
Team Liquid 84.72%
Evil Geniuses 83.87%
STX SouL 83.81%
StarTale has lost some players, and those who stayed lost some points (Parting most significantly). MVP and IM has caught up a bit now. The Proleague-style list looks almost identical, except that STX passes EG, TL drops out of the list and Woongjin sneaks in on 10th place. Otherwise, good job Unless you mean the has/have mistake, I don't quite see it. Thanks for being specific.... Nah, i actually think he means the Parting bit. You say: "StarTale has lost some players, and those who stayed lost some points (Parting most significantly)." But PartinG is on SKT now and didn't stay. Perhaps i understand it wrong, but idk.
Uh, yeah, that's a derp on my part.
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@TheBB: I sent you a PM, but anyway, what I meant is that in the list there is TL (8th) and STX (10th), while in the writeup you mention that TL has dropped out of the list and that Woongjin is now in 10th position. Either something is wrong or I am misunderstanding something.
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United States97276 Posts
On January 25 2013 20:17 Ender985 wrote:
@TheBB: I sent you a PM, but anyway, what I meant is that in the list there is TL (8th) and STX (10th), while in the writeup you mention that TL has dropped out of the list and that Woongjin is now in 10th position. Either something is wrong or I am misunderstanding something.
There are 2 different team ranking lists, 1 for the all kill format and 1 for the proleague format. The list in the OP is for the all kill format. When he said TL falls out and Stars is 10th was for the Proleague format list.
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Oh I see, I was confused. Thanks.
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Pretty useful during LR-threads as well btw :D
Will show you who has the biggest chance whenever a match has been played. Spoiler for life vs mkp in iron squid
+ Show Spoiler + (3068) Life 2-1 MarineKing (1920)
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87.07% 3-1
11.26% 3-2 2-3 1.67%
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98.33% 1.67%
Median outcome
Life 3-1 MarineKing Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
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Why is there such a big gap between Bomber and Mvp in the Hall of Fame? I thought Mvp was dominating much longer than Bomber (did he ever really dominate?)
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Just implemented prediction for GSL-style groups: http://aligulac.com/predict/
On January 26 2013 21:54 graNite wrote:
Why is there such a big gap between Bomber and Mvp in the Hall of Fame? I thought Mvp was dominating much longer than Bomber (did he ever really dominate?)
Well, there could be several reasons for this. Remember that the rating is strictly about winning games, not tournaments. Mvp is very good at the latter, and that's what people remember. They are correlated but not identical.
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Only one foreign Terran is sad :-/
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EPT
