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dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
January 03 2013 19:40 GMT
#521
Damn, this explains all the players who were leaving TSL for other teams. Sorry to hear they've disbanded; good luck to all their teamless players.
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Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
January 03 2013 19:44 GMT
#522
wow this is so depressing. Good luck to all of the players left teamless.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
January 03 2013 19:56 GMT
#523
so just because of 2 players the whole team dies?
I mean they have symbol and hyun
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Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
January 03 2013 19:56 GMT
#524
wow very sad
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
January 03 2013 20:00 GMT
#525
On January 04 2013 04:56 zhurai wrote:
so just because of 2 players the whole team dies?
I mean they have symbol and hyun


I think that was a lead-in to the disbanding. TSL was known for having financial problems, and losing Polt/Revival made it more apparent that TSL wasn't the most stable or sustainable team around. Yes, HyuN and Symbol are Code S level players who have big names, but it doesn't really matter when their team is suffering, and no matter how good their results were, they didn't get a sponsor. If TSL say, won GSTL or GSL, they probably would have got a decent sponsor and floated a bit longer, but TSL was dying slowly for a while now. Polt, HyuN and Symbol kept it alive, but most people realized TSL wouldn't last forever.
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Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1835 Posts
January 03 2013 20:01 GMT
#526
I guess IM and ST will merge/joing Kespa teams and that will be it.
Vasily17
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada55 Posts
January 03 2013 20:08 GMT
#527
Zenex, slayers and now TSL gone in less than 6 months it might be best for Starcraft and teams if they join Kespa for financial support although that could really hurt GomTV.if Kespa were to chooses to not allow players in GSL if there were to join (just an idea)
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Savant
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States379 Posts
January 03 2013 20:09 GMT
#528
On January 04 2013 05:01 Odoakar wrote:
I guess IM and ST will merge/joing Kespa teams and that will be it.


I think the only way. Korean SC2 is not popular enough to support 2 team leagues and 15+ teams. Even maintaining the old 2 individual leagues + team league would be hard right now.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 03 2013 20:14 GMT
#529
I'm going to write a Final Edit about this.

TSL had such an amazingly weird history. There were three distinct generations, tons of controversy, and lots of ups and downs. I don't know when I will write it or when it'll be out, but this team deserves something written about them in full. TSL was never a GSTL champion, but they will not be forgotten.

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DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 20:20:40
January 03 2013 20:15 GMT
#530
Even at the peak of bw in korea, the were only 11 teams that was active. We should expect more teams being disband in the future.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
January 03 2013 20:15 GMT
#531
On January 04 2013 05:01 Odoakar wrote:
I guess IM and ST will merge/joing Kespa teams and that will be it.

Can't tell if serious. Why would anyone come up with such a conclusion?
Refer to my post.
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
January 03 2013 20:16 GMT
#532
On January 04 2013 05:14 Fionn wrote:
I'm going to write a Final Edit about this.

TSL had such an amazingly weird history. There were three distinct generations, tons of controversy, and lots of ups and downs. I don't know when I will write it or when it'll be out, but this team deserves something written about them in full. TSL was never a GSTL champion, but they will not be forgotten.



The people who forgot them are not worthy of them, their loss!
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
January 03 2013 20:21 GMT
#533
This shouldn't be surprising with the talk of having money to send polt to dream hack followed by revival and polt leaving
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 03 2013 20:26 GMT
#534
Also HoSeo outlasts another team.

I think by the end of 2013, ESF will be IM, Startale, FXO and HoSeo.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
FoxerGames
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia120 Posts
January 03 2013 20:27 GMT
#535
When we look this on the pro team side, when Kespa came to SC2 pro scene, it would mean more players and more saturation. GSL seeds is harder to maintain as more talent comes in and thus the value of the average pro gamer feels like its decreased, it is not a viable income. To the spectator eyes, this move seeing Kespa players transitioning to sc2 looks great. Better skill bar is raised and better players are produced. Those code A players are now code B being replaced by newer Kespa players and never heard again.

All in all, I think teams will struggle more this year than last year. Viewers may increase a bit but just liking spamming money into a country, it really devalues everything else.. Saturation is bad, but how to solve saturation?
I didn't want to work so I didn't.
AceOfCakez
Profile Joined August 2012
United States72 Posts
January 03 2013 20:29 GMT
#536
Wow. This is news to me.
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
January 03 2013 20:30 GMT
#537
On January 04 2013 05:14 Fionn wrote:
I'm going to write a Final Edit about this.

TSL had such an amazingly weird history. There were three distinct generations, tons of controversy, and lots of ups and downs. I don't know when I will write it or when it'll be out, but this team deserves something written about them in full. TSL was never a GSTL champion, but they will not be forgotten.


We need another FE!
¯\_(シ)_/¯
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
January 03 2013 20:32 GMT
#538
On January 04 2013 01:31 Rekrul wrote:
Congratulations to all the TSL players.


Rekrul vs CoachLee showmatch!!!
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 03 2013 20:34 GMT
#539
Also I feel like Azubu fucked up.

They sign a bunch of middle of the road players.

A week later and they could have talked to Polt, Parting, Supernova, Symbol, Hyun, and BboongBboong.

Oops.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18825 Posts
January 03 2013 20:37 GMT
#540
On January 04 2013 05:26 Fionn wrote:
Also HoSeo outlasts another team.

I think by the end of 2013, ESF will be IM, Startale, FXO and HoSeo.

This doesn't surprise me all that much, as it seems like the NSH team is at least partly funded through the school in which they operate, effectively insulating them from a lot of sponsorship ups and downs.
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