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xpaperclip
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 08:09:17
January 03 2013 04:26 GMT
#1
(Wiki)2012–2013 Proleague/Round 2

The starting players for the first week of Winners League have been published by Kespa. Note that unlike GSTL, the map order is pre-determined and not loser's pick.
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Match 1 (Saturday, Jan 05 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00))
[image loading] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus
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      Starters: (P)sOs < Ohana > (P)herO
      Set 2: Antiga Shipyard
      Set 3: Neo Planet S
      Set 4: Neo Bifrost
      Set 5: Neo CalDeum
      Set 6: Cloud Kingdom
      Set 7: Entombed Valley
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Match 2 (Saturday, Jan 05 5:30am GMT (GMT+00:00))
[image loading] Samsung Khan vs Team 8 [image loading]

      Starters: (T)Reality < Antiga Shipyard > (T)Speed
      Set 2: Neo CalDeum
      Set 3: Ohana
      Set 4: Entombed Valley
      Set 5: Neo Planet S
      Set 6: Neo Bifrost
      Set 7: Neo Arkanoid
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Match 3 (Sunday, Jan 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00))
[image loading] EG-Liquid vs KT Rolster
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      Starters: (Z)Revival < Ohana > (T)Flash
      Set 2: Antiga Shipyard
      Set 3: Neo Planet S
      Set 4: Neo Bifrost
      Set 5: Neo CalDeum
      Set 6: Cloud Kingdom
      Set 7: Entombed Valley
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Match 4 (Sunday, Jan 06 5:30am GMT (GMT+00:00))
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SK Telecom T1 vs STX Soul [image loading]

      Starters: (P)BeSt < Ohana > (T)Last
      Set 2: Antiga Shipyard
      Set 3: Neo Planet S
      Set 4: Neo Bifrost
      Set 5: Neo CalDeum
      Set 6: Cloud Kingdom
      Set 7: Entombed Valley
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Match 5 (Monday, Jan 07 6:00am GMT (GMT+00:00))
[image loading] Team 8 vs CJ Entus
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      Starters: (P)Sang < Entombed Valley > (Z)Hydra
      Set 2: Neo Bifrost
      Set 3: Neo CalDeum
      Set 4: Neo Arkanoid
      Set 5: Cloud Kingdom
      Set 6: Antiga Shipyard
      Set 7: Ohana
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Match 6 (Monday, Jan 07 8:30am GMT (GMT+00:00))
[image loading] Samsung Khan vs Woongjin Stars [image loading]

      Starters: (P)Stork < Entombed Valley > (T)Light
      Set 2: Neo Bifrost
      Set 3: Neo CalDeum
      Set 4: Neo Arkanoid
      Set 5: Cloud Kingdom
      Set 6: Antiga Shipyard
      Set 7: Ohana
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Match 7 (Tuesday, Jan 08 6:00am GMT (GMT+00:00))
[image loading] STX Soul vs KT Rolster
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      Starters: (P)Dear < Cloud Kingdom > (P)Wooki
      Set 2: Ohana
      Set 3: Entombed Valley
      Set 4: Antiga Shipyard
      Set 5: Neo Arkanoid
      Set 6: Neo Planet S
      Set 7: Neo Bifrost
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Match 8 (Tuesday, Jan 08 8:30am GMT (GMT+00:00))
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SK Telecom T1 vs EG-Liquid [image loading]

      Starters: (T)FanTaSy < Entombed Valley > (P)JYP
      Set 2: Neo Bifrost
      Set 3: Neo CalDeum
      Set 4: Neo Arkanoid
      Set 5: Cloud Kingdom
      Set 6: Antiga Shipyard
      Set 7: Ohana
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Source: http://www.e-sports.or.kr/schedule/entry.kea?m_code=sche_32

See Also

Round 2 Roster Changes
Fantasy Proleague Round 2


Edit:
On January 03 2013 14:33 supernovamaniac wrote:
Interesting thing to note: Neo versions for KeSPA maps and TalDarim removed, Entombed added.


Tal'darim Altar has been changed to Entombed Valley. (I swear it was still TDA when I checked it earlier today ><)

Edit 2:
The map lists on the KeSPA site are now also being updated to reflect their 'Neo'-ness (although subsequent weeks presently look like a strange mix of new and old). I'll re-TLPDize them when the new entries are available.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 03 2013 04:28 GMT
#2
JYPvTerrorist
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
January 03 2013 04:29 GMT
#3
oh wow winners league already?
starleague forever
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 04:30:27
January 03 2013 04:29 GMT
#4
All-Kill time! ^_^

Going to be fun!

On January 03 2013 13:29 a176 wrote:
oh wow winners league already?


2nd round man is the dillio.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
January 03 2013 04:30 GMT
#5
revival vs flash :D
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 04:32:35
January 03 2013 04:31 GMT
#6
A lot less meat to these lists when it's allkill

First 2 days of matches they're all looking to get as many kills as possible through their first pick it looks like
Refer to my post.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
January 03 2013 04:32 GMT
#7
Poor revival, having Flash sent out as the starter is just cruel.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
January 03 2013 04:35 GMT
#8
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Kaboom Babies!
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
January 03 2013 04:36 GMT
#9
How's Speed been doing compared to Reality?
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
January 03 2013 04:39 GMT
#10
On January 03 2013 13:36 MooMooMugi wrote:
How's Speed been doing compared to Reality?


Speed went 4-2 and was part of my horrid anti-team and Reality was 2-5.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 04:42:55
January 03 2013 04:41 GMT
#11
On January 03 2013 13:32 Adreme wrote:
Poor revival, having Flash sent out as the starter is just cruel.


Heh, KT wants to save their Aces (Stats, Action, CH, etc) for later. Flash is going to get benched if he loses to Revival.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 04:44:30
January 03 2013 04:43 GMT
#12
What's with so many strong ace-level starting players? Traditionally in the GSTL/IPTL/etc you want to save your sick nerd baller players for the latter half.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 04:45:23
January 03 2013 04:43 GMT
#13
On January 03 2013 13:41 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 13:32 Adreme wrote:
Poor revival, having Flash sent out as the starter is just cruel.


Heh, KT wants to save their Aces (Stats, Action, CH, etc) for later.


-.^ Sometimes you want to send a strong message to the other teams.

On January 03 2013 13:43 MCXD wrote:
What's with so many strong ace-level starting players? Traditionally in the GSTL you want to save your sick nerd baller players for the latter half.


Go strong. Don't mess around and have a few guys ready to snipe.

On January 03 2013 13:44 Dodgin wrote:
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On January 03 2013 13:43 MCXD wrote:
What's with so many strong ace-level starting players? Traditionally in the GSTL you want to save your sick nerd baller players for the latter half.


Probably because if you win 4-0 It's much better than winning 4-3, mapscore breaks tiebreakers at the end of the season ( wins to losses )


Pretty much. There is no margin for errors.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 03 2013 04:44 GMT
#14
On January 03 2013 13:43 MCXD wrote:
What's with so many strong ace-level starting players? Traditionally in the GSTL you want to save your sick nerd baller players for the latter half.


Probably because if you win 4-0 It's much better than winning 4-3, mapscore breaks tiebreakers at the end of the season ( wins to losses )
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 03 2013 04:46 GMT
#15
On January 03 2013 13:44 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 13:43 MCXD wrote:
What's with so many strong ace-level starting players? Traditionally in the GSTL you want to save your sick nerd baller players for the latter half.


Probably because if you win 4-0 It's much better than winning 4-3, mapscore breaks tiebreakers at the end of the season ( wins to losses )

Also probably because PL coaches haven't been taking lessons from the LG-IM coach.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 03 2013 04:47 GMT
#16
On January 03 2013 13:35 Arceus wrote:
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Kaboom Babies!

Should I just use this as the banner?
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 04:49:36
January 03 2013 04:47 GMT
#17
god for the 1st time ever TDA features zero zerg, in two straight matches no less
Im sad that they dont add/remove or make modifications to any maps though

On January 03 2013 13:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 13:35 Arceus wrote:
[image loading]

Kaboom Babies!

Should I just use this as the banner?

sure. who doesnt love this old ass lovely AK
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
January 03 2013 04:48 GMT
#18
man EGTL facing two powerhouses this early in round 2 =O
good luck!!
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
January 03 2013 04:48 GMT
#19
Rooting for EG-Taeja! (its that time of year).
<3 Kim Taeyeon
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
January 03 2013 04:49 GMT
#20
I guess there will be no changes to the maps between Round 1 and 2?
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Dirkinity
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany409 Posts
January 03 2013 04:49 GMT
#21
What is winners league? Can't be only winners, because even Samsung is playing.
Alstroemeria
Profile Joined February 2012
99 Posts
January 03 2013 04:51 GMT
#22
On January 03 2013 13:49 Dirkinity wrote:
What is winners league? Can't be only winners, because even Samsung is playing.


It's like GSTL but maps are predetermined.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
January 03 2013 04:51 GMT
#23
On January 03 2013 13:49 Dirkinity wrote:
What is winners league? Can't be only winners, because even Samsung is playing.


It's another name for the all-kill format. Also known as 'crews' and 'winner stays on' and 'pokemon format' in other circles.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 03 2013 04:51 GMT
#24
On January 03 2013 13:49 Dirkinity wrote:
What is winners league? Can't be only winners, because even Samsung is playing.

Winners League = winner stays = all kill format
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
January 03 2013 04:53 GMT
#25
With Stephano, Taeja, Hero, and Jaedong, EG-TL is going to be hard for the KeSPA teams to overcome. I would give SKT the best shot at winning this though, since they have Rain who seems to overcome everyone when it really matters.
@DreamingBird
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
January 03 2013 04:58 GMT
#26
Heaps of great starting players, will be fun to see who gets the first all kill.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
January 03 2013 05:08 GMT
#27
On January 03 2013 13:53 Imbu wrote:
With Stephano, Taeja, Hero, and Jaedong, EG-TL is going to be hard for the KeSPA teams to overcome. I would give SKT the best shot at winning this though, since they have Rain who seems to overcome everyone when it really matters.


Fantasy had basically the same round 1 record so I would not underestimate him as well. I would argue he is probably a top 3 or at least 5 KeSPA player.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 05:11:02
January 03 2013 05:09 GMT
#28
On January 03 2013 13:49 Dirkinity wrote:
What is winners league? Can't be only winners, because even Samsung is playing.

I don't think it's really that hard to understand. and nice cheap shot at Khan. PL's been doing these rounds for a really, really long time as well man. D;

On January 03 2013 14:08 Adreme wrote:
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On January 03 2013 13:53 Imbu wrote:
With Stephano, Taeja, Hero, and Jaedong, EG-TL is going to be hard for the KeSPA teams to overcome. I would give SKT the best shot at winning this though, since they have Rain who seems to overcome everyone when it really matters.


Fantasy had basically the same round 1 record so I would not underestimate him as well. I would argue he is probably a top 3 or at least 5 KeSPA player.


Fantasy is okay, but not great. It will be an interesting set. I wouldn't put him as one of my top five KeSPA roster players though. I'd put a number of guys before him.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
January 03 2013 05:10 GMT
#29
AK TIME!!!

Tatatatatatatatatata
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
January 03 2013 05:11 GMT
#30
On January 03 2013 13:49 Dirkinity wrote:
What is winners league? Can't be only winners, because even Samsung is playing.

At first read, I thought this guy was making a really really good jab at Khan.
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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 03 2013 05:18 GMT
#31
Whens signups for round 2
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
January 03 2013 05:20 GMT
#32
Wow big week for EG-TL, vs KT and SKT in the same week?
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
January 03 2013 05:33 GMT
#33
Interesting thing to note: Neo versions for KeSPA maps and TalDarim removed, Entombed added.
ppp
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 05:37:22
January 03 2013 05:34 GMT
#34
On January 03 2013 14:33 supernovamaniac wrote:
Interesting thing to note: Neo versions for KeSPA maps and TalDarim removed, Entombed added.

Does that mean all the games listed for TDA are now Entombed Valley or do you mean for Round 3?
On January 03 2013 14:36 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 14:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 03 2013 14:33 supernovamaniac wrote:
Interesting thing to note: Neo versions for KeSPA maps and TalDarim removed, Entombed added.

Does that mean all the games listed for TDA are now Entombed Valley or do you mean for Round 3?

The maps that are listed as TDA are Entombed, as seen on KeSPA webpage and fomos.

Also, ALL KeSPA maps are getting slight tweaks, though I haven't seen the maps so I don't know what the changes are.

Thanks! Awesome to see TDA gone already. That map had no place in proleague or really any tournament. Hopefully the tweaks lead to less mirrors too
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 05:41:03
January 03 2013 05:36 GMT
#35
On January 03 2013 14:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 14:33 supernovamaniac wrote:
Interesting thing to note: Neo versions for KeSPA maps and TalDarim removed, Entombed added.

Does that mean all the games listed for TDA are now Entombed Valley or do you mean for Round 3?

The maps that are listed as TDA are Entombed, as seen on KeSPA webpage and fomos.

Also, ALL KeSPA maps are getting slight tweaks, though I haven't seen the maps so I don't know what the changes are.

EDIT: OP, I don't blame you. Sometimes they make mistakes and update the page with old and/or incorrect information. Not your fault :D
ppp
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
January 03 2013 05:42 GMT
#36
That's hilarious. Imagine this conversation:

"So, Revival, thanks for joining the team. We're sending you to Proleague, in Korea."

"Awesome! I can't wait."

"By the way, your first opponent in Round 2 is Flash."

"I'm sorry, what now???"
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 03 2013 05:42 GMT
#37
Predetermined maps is an interesting idea.
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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 05:59:11
January 03 2013 05:49 GMT
#38
Have they also released the eligible rosters for each team? That's needed for the Fantasy League to start up, I should think.

On January 03 2013 13:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 13:35 Arceus wrote:
[image loading]

Kaboom Babies!

Should I just use this as the banner?

Please don't. xD
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xpaperclip
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
January 03 2013 05:50 GMT
#39
On January 03 2013 14:36 supernovamaniac wrote:
EDIT: OP, I don't blame you. Sometimes they make mistakes and update the page with old and/or incorrect information. Not your fault :D


Haha, no worries, just checking I'm not going crazy. In fact, I just checked the week 2 maps on the Kespa site and they still have Tal'darim. Do you know if it is appropriate to assume that all instances of TDA will be replaced by Entombed (like this week), or will the map order be re-shuffled?
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
January 03 2013 05:57 GMT
#40
I'm interested to see the changes on the Neo versions of the KeSPA maps. They're always fascinating to analyse.

And I can't believe that it's Winner's League already. Time really flies nowadays.
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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
January 03 2013 06:02 GMT
#41
Its crazy how overrated EGTL is, the way people talk about them you'd think they were 7-0 in R1 and not 3-4.
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
January 03 2013 06:04 GMT
#42
On January 03 2013 14:57 eviltomahawk wrote:
I'm interested to see the changes on the Neo versions of the KeSPA maps. They're always fascinating to analyse.

And I can't believe that it's Winner's League already. Time really flies nowadays.

#1 Analysis: Siege tank here, siege tank there, it's a Terran map. XD
ppp
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 03 2013 06:11 GMT
#43
On January 03 2013 14:42 Jazzman88 wrote:
That's hilarious. Imagine this conversation:

"So, Revival, thanks for joining the team. We're sending you to Proleague, in Korea."

"Awesome! I can't wait."

"By the way, your first opponent in Round 2 is Flash."

"I'm sorry, what now???"


I'd be happy.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19223 Posts
January 03 2013 06:16 GMT
#44
Needs more bisu but SKT will stilldominate.
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Shodaa
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada404 Posts
January 03 2013 06:42 GMT
#45
On January 03 2013 15:02 iamho wrote:
Its crazy how overrated EGTL is, the way people talk about them you'd think they were 7-0 in R1 and not 3-4.


3-4 and being 4th is pretty good for a new team.
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rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
January 03 2013 06:48 GMT
#46
yay Revival..yaaaay EGTL
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Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 06:51:27
January 03 2013 06:50 GMT
#47
Can someone explain the change of format to me? This is the first pro-league I watch and in the first round they didn't have all-kill format but now it seems like they do? Why change?

Also, how many rounds are there?
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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 06:57:27
January 03 2013 06:50 GMT
#48
Don't have much hope for JYP vs Fantasy. JYPvT is, shall we say, a "special" matchup...

On January 03 2013 15:50 Firkraag8 wrote:
Can someone explain the change of format to me? This is the first pro-league I watch and in the first round they didn't have all-kill format but now it seems like they do? Why change?

Also, how many rounds are there?

There are 6 rounds, then playoffs. Since the season is almost a year long, they decided to make it more interesting by having Round 2 and Round 5 all-kill format. And it's not the first time there has been all-kill format in Proleague.
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VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
January 03 2013 06:56 GMT
#49
On January 03 2013 15:50 Firkraag8 wrote:
Can someone explain the change of format to me? This is the first pro-league I watch and in the first round they didn't have all-kill format but now it seems like they do? Why change?

Also, how many rounds are there?

Six rounds. Rounds 1, 3, 4, and 6 are Proleague format. Rounds 2 and 5 are Winners League.
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Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
January 03 2013 07:04 GMT
#50
On January 03 2013 13:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 13:35 Arceus wrote:
[image loading]

Kaboom Babies!

Should I just use this as the banner?


Please do. Its tradition! Would love to see that golden ak for all kills and reverse all kills aswell!
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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
January 03 2013 07:06 GMT
#51
dang EGTL has it tough.. but ITS OK CUZ TAEJA
can i get my estro logo back pls
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
January 03 2013 07:06 GMT
#52
Hm, with the map selection fixed, does that make it easier or harder for teams to strategize than GSTL?

Seems...harder.
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
January 03 2013 07:08 GMT
#53
Awesome. Should be an easy all kill for Flash.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 03 2013 07:16 GMT
#54
On January 03 2013 16:04 derpface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 13:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 03 2013 13:35 Arceus wrote:
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Kaboom Babies!

Should I just use this as the banner?


Please do. Its tradition! Would love to see that golden ak for all kills and reverse all kills aswell!

Ok I went ahead and put it for the first match and I'll gauge the reactions from there ^^
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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
January 03 2013 07:18 GMT
#55
Well, Revival just proved he's pretty good at All-Kill teamleague. Taking out FXO's three best players when EG was down to the last man? I'm hoping for Flash to win, but wouldn't at all put it past Revival to perform well!
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bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
January 03 2013 07:19 GMT
#56
Is there any particular reason that every single match has 3 of the 4 KeSPA maps back-to-back-to-back, and every match except #2 has the four ladder maps? That can't be random, how are they making these map picks?
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 08:24:47
January 03 2013 07:21 GMT
#57
On January 03 2013 16:06 coverpunch wrote:
Hm, with the map selection fixed, does that make it easier or harder for teams to strategize than GSTL?

Seems...harder.

easier for preparation, which translates to better quality (format-wise)

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Weekday matches will be held 2 hours earlier (from 5pm KST & 7pm KST to 3pm KST and 5pm KST) *edited*
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 07:28:42
January 03 2013 07:27 GMT
#58
On January 03 2013 16:21 Arceus wrote:
Weekday matches will be held 2 hours earlier (from 3pm KST & 5pm KST to 1pm KST and 3pm KST)

Is this confirmed? That would be awesome, then I could watch this before going to work.

But weren't weekday matches later than 3/5pm KST?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 07:30:07
January 03 2013 07:28 GMT
#59
On January 03 2013 16:27 Proseat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 16:21 Arceus wrote:
Weekday matches will be held 2 hours earlier (from 3pm KST & 5pm KST to 1pm KST and 3pm KST)

Is this confirmed? That would be awesome, then I could watch this before going to work.


I would like to know if this is confirmed as well before I add everything to the TL calendar and I can change the times I listed in the OP templates
On January 03 2013 16:27 Proseat wrote:
But weren't weekday matches later than 3/5pm KST?

They were 5/7:30 PM KST in round 1
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 03 2013 07:30 GMT
#60
EG TAEJA TIME
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 03 2013 07:31 GMT
#61
On January 03 2013 15:02 iamho wrote:
Its crazy how overrated EGTL is, the way people talk about them you'd think they were 7-0 in R1 and not 3-4.

Well, it's all-kill format. Taeja, take the wheel~
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 07:33:23
January 03 2013 07:32 GMT
#62
On January 03 2013 15:02 iamho wrote:
Its crazy how overrated EGTL is, the way people talk about them you'd think they were 7-0 in R1 and not 3-4.


Well with the people who overrate them there are just as many haters if not more. So it evens out.

They are good, not anywhere near as bad as people make them out to be but obviously not so good they won't ever lose.

I do feel that in AK format it does favor EGTL quiet a bit, taeja/hero/jaedong/revival are all very strong players. I know I am forgetting a couple people but that's just off the very very top of my head.

I can see EGTL doing a lot better then 3-4 in round 2, that's for sure.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 03 2013 07:36 GMT
#63
Incoming Flash all kill.
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decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
January 03 2013 07:39 GMT
#64
On January 03 2013 16:32 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 15:02 iamho wrote:
Its crazy how overrated EGTL is, the way people talk about them you'd think they were 7-0 in R1 and not 3-4.


Well with the people who overrate them there are just as many haters if not more. So it evens out.

They are good, not anywhere near as bad as people make them out to be but obviously not so good they won't ever lose.

I do feel that in AK format it does favor EGTL quiet a bit, taeja/hero/jaedong/revival are all very strong players. I know I am forgetting a couple people but that's just off the very very top of my head.

I can see EGTL doing a lot better then 3-4 in round 2, that's for sure.


Combined, Hero and Taeja are 0-9 against Rain. Most teams have multiple like Bogus, Baby, Soo, hero(join), soulkey that no one would bat an eyelash for if they all killed EG-TL.

Couple that with the fact that Huk and Thorzain are easily the two worst players in SPL, and Puma and Zenio haven't looked very good, and I'd be surprised if they even make it to 3-4
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
January 03 2013 07:39 GMT
#65
They also changed the maps. What are those NEO different from the olds
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 03 2013 07:41 GMT
#66
On January 03 2013 16:39 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 16:32 blade55555 wrote:
On January 03 2013 15:02 iamho wrote:
Its crazy how overrated EGTL is, the way people talk about them you'd think they were 7-0 in R1 and not 3-4.


Well with the people who overrate them there are just as many haters if not more. So it evens out.

They are good, not anywhere near as bad as people make them out to be but obviously not so good they won't ever lose.

I do feel that in AK format it does favor EGTL quiet a bit, taeja/hero/jaedong/revival are all very strong players. I know I am forgetting a couple people but that's just off the very very top of my head.

I can see EGTL doing a lot better then 3-4 in round 2, that's for sure.


Combined, Hero and Taeja are 0-9 against Rain. Most teams have multiple like Bogus, Baby, Soo, hero(join), soulkey that no one would bat an eyelash for if they all killed EG-TL.

Couple that with the fact that Huk and Thorzain are easily the two worst players in SPL, and Puma and Zenio haven't looked very good, and I'd be surprised if they even make it to 3-4

I'd sure as hell bat an eyelash at anyone outside of rain all killing eg tbph.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
January 03 2013 07:43 GMT
#67
On January 03 2013 16:39 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 16:32 blade55555 wrote:
On January 03 2013 15:02 iamho wrote:
Its crazy how overrated EGTL is, the way people talk about them you'd think they were 7-0 in R1 and not 3-4.


Well with the people who overrate them there are just as many haters if not more. So it evens out.

They are good, not anywhere near as bad as people make them out to be but obviously not so good they won't ever lose.

I do feel that in AK format it does favor EGTL quiet a bit, taeja/hero/jaedong/revival are all very strong players. I know I am forgetting a couple people but that's just off the very very top of my head.

I can see EGTL doing a lot better then 3-4 in round 2, that's for sure.


Combined, Hero and Taeja are 0-9 against Rain. Most teams have multiple like Bogus, Baby, Soo, hero(join), soulkey that no one would bat an eyelash for if they all killed EG-TL.

Couple that with the fact that Huk and Thorzain are easily the two worst players in SPL, and Puma and Zenio haven't looked very good, and I'd be surprised if they even make it to 3-4

rain is much much better than bogus, baby, soo, hero join, and soulkey. i would be suprised if any of them were able to all kill egtl excluding rain who is one of the best players in the world and probably 2nd best protoss behind parting.
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 03 2013 07:46 GMT
#68
Time for Team TeaJa to take home a free 7-0 in this round!
EZ4ENCE
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 03 2013 07:48 GMT
#69
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
January 03 2013 07:49 GMT
#70
too many mirrors PvPs mean. Really funny how no one really wanted to start with Zerg. Last v Best, Stork van Light, and Revival v Flash gonna be crazy good. Also rooting for Fanta, Dear, and WJ in general. GOGOGO
The heart's eternal vow
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 03 2013 07:49 GMT
#71
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RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
January 03 2013 07:57 GMT
#72
Damn so hard to pick for my FPL with all these first-pick.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
January 03 2013 08:00 GMT
#73
Apparently, the submitted team rosters have been released already (I missed this thread as well):

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391287
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 03 2013 08:12 GMT
#74
On January 03 2013 16:39 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 16:32 blade55555 wrote:
On January 03 2013 15:02 iamho wrote:
Its crazy how overrated EGTL is, the way people talk about them you'd think they were 7-0 in R1 and not 3-4.


Well with the people who overrate them there are just as many haters if not more. So it evens out.

They are good, not anywhere near as bad as people make them out to be but obviously not so good they won't ever lose.

I do feel that in AK format it does favor EGTL quiet a bit, taeja/hero/jaedong/revival are all very strong players. I know I am forgetting a couple people but that's just off the very very top of my head.

I can see EGTL doing a lot better then 3-4 in round 2, that's for sure.


Combined, Hero and Taeja are 0-9 against Rain. Most teams have multiple like Bogus, Baby, Soo, hero(join), soulkey that no one would bat an eyelash for if they all killed EG-TL.

Couple that with the fact that Huk and Thorzain are easily the two worst players in SPL, and Puma and Zenio haven't looked very good, and I'd be surprised if they even make it to 3-4


uh lol you realize that taeja has beaten baby and bogus right?

I get your a hater and hate EGTL and all but like I said they aren't anywhere near as bad as haters say they are (you being one of them).
When I think of something else, something will go here
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6328 Posts
January 03 2013 08:19 GMT
#75
Neo maps? So there are changes to the maps right?
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
January 03 2013 08:22 GMT
#76
On January 03 2013 16:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 16:27 Proseat wrote:
On January 03 2013 16:21 Arceus wrote:
Weekday matches will be held 2 hours earlier (from 3pm KST & 5pm KST to 1pm KST and 3pm KST)

Is this confirmed? That would be awesome, then I could watch this before going to work.


I would like to know if this is confirmed as well before I add everything to the TL calendar and I can change the times I listed in the OP templates
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 16:27 Proseat wrote:
But weren't weekday matches later than 3/5pm KST?

They were 5/7:30 PM KST in round 1

ouch I mean the new timeslot is 3pm and 5pm -_- Silly me (my timezone is 2hours earlier than KST)
nmetasch
Profile Joined April 2012
United States600 Posts
January 03 2013 08:35 GMT
#77
Can anyone let me know how to change my group? As it turns out, i'm not a terran player!
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 03 2013 08:37 GMT
#78
On January 03 2013 17:35 nmetasch wrote:
Can anyone let me know how to change my group? As it turns out, i'm not a terran player!

It puts you in groups based on your profile icon (race selection) which can be changed by clicking the profile button in the top left while logged in.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
January 03 2013 10:49 GMT
#79
wow ... how time flies ^^
didn't realize that round 2 was going to start so soon o.O

well I love how stx put last first and I hate that they didn't invite a real foreigner team where we actually get to see some foreigners... well at least stephano is there now so maybe it will get better but I'm afraid that he will just take thorzains spot
when stephano leaves again I would love it if team 8 would actually field more non koreans than the non korean invite that would just make me happy haha
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Sumadin
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark588 Posts
January 03 2013 11:01 GMT
#80
So anyone knows what these Neo versions means. Do we know what they changed on the map?
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sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
January 03 2013 11:35 GMT
#81
On January 03 2013 15:42 Shodaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 15:02 iamho wrote:
Its crazy how overrated EGTL is, the way people talk about them you'd think they were 7-0 in R1 and not 3-4.


3-4 and being 4th is pretty good for a new team.

actually they are the only "old" team as far as sc2 goes
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 03 2013 11:40 GMT
#82
On January 03 2013 17:19 digmouse wrote:
Neo maps? So there are changes to the maps right?


http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/15vk61/splproleague_map_changes_for_round_2/c7q77z7

GTR usually knows his stuff about things like these, but there are no details available in what way the maps have been changed exactly. Might just be bugfixes or something.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 11:48:45
January 03 2013 11:48 GMT
#83
On January 03 2013 16:48 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 16:36 GolemMadness wrote:
Incoming Flash all kill.

He will be lucky if he beats Revival. If he does then EGTL can send out literally any Terran player to snipe him.


You are kiding yourself if you think that anyone besides Taeja from EGTL's terran line-up can beat Flash .
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
January 03 2013 11:58 GMT
#84
Well it looks like SK Telecom... saved Best for Last.
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-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
January 03 2013 12:12 GMT
#85
SKT will smash everyone this round.
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#86
On January 03 2013 20:58 Yonnua wrote:
Well it looks like SK Telecom... saved Best for Last.


Hohoho.

That's what i like best about the kespa players, their ID's are just so pun-friendly.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 03 2013 12:51 GMT
#87
On January 03 2013 16:48 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 16:36 GolemMadness wrote:
Incoming Flash all kill.

He will be lucky if he beats Revival. If he does then EGTL can send out literally any Terran player to snipe him.


You are a humourous fellow. :D
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
January 03 2013 12:59 GMT
#88
Oh hell yes, Flash starting for KT and Best starting for my beloved SKT.

This is going to be aaaaawesome! <3333
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TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
January 03 2013 13:08 GMT
#89
So unlike GSTL, all sets are important as it accounts your overall points and map order is predetermined. Gonna be very rare for us to see foreigners this round since koreans are so strong. (Unless Stephano is in Korea)
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
January 03 2013 17:08 GMT
#90
Excited about this. Hoping for nice all-kills from both Flash and Best to start us off.

Probably only slightly likely, but still, this is going to be nice.
Flash | Mvp
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
January 03 2013 17:13 GMT
#91
damn tough way for liquid to start round 2! Gogo!
Try another route paperboy.
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
January 03 2013 23:31 GMT
#92
On January 03 2013 13:39 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 13:36 MooMooMugi wrote:
How's Speed been doing compared to Reality?


Speed went 4-2 and was part of my horrid anti-team and Reality was 2-5.

I remember only his last TvZ matches and they were both very solid with plenty of multitasking, it's another strong Terran, walking in BaBy's footsteps.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 04:39:34
January 04 2013 04:38 GMT
#93
On January 03 2013 21:20 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 20:58 Yonnua wrote:
Well it looks like SK Telecom... saved Best for Last.


Hohoho.

That's what i like best about the kespa players, their ID's are just so pun-friendly.



We've been doing it forever man. We need a new thing. :/

On January 04 2013 08:31 jnd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 13:39 Adreme wrote:
On January 03 2013 13:36 MooMooMugi wrote:
How's Speed been doing compared to Reality?


Speed went 4-2 and was part of my horrid anti-team and Reality was 2-5.

I remember only his last TvZ matches and they were both very solid with plenty of multitasking, it's another strong Terran, walking in BaBy's footsteps.


Speed should be able to run over Reality. Reality has been terribad in TvT televised matches.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
January 04 2013 04:46 GMT
#94
EG-TL should do quite well in R2, I look forward to seeing more awesome series in proleague.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 04 2013 04:47 GMT
#95
On January 03 2013 20:48 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 16:48 Emzeeshady wrote:
On January 03 2013 16:36 GolemMadness wrote:
Incoming Flash all kill.

He will be lucky if he beats Revival. If he does then EGTL can send out literally any Terran player to snipe him.


You are kiding yourself if you think that anyone besides Taeja from EGTL's terran line-up can beat Flash .


I find myself saying the same thing about you saying that taeja is the only player on EGTL who can beat flash. Far from likely, I bet hero/taeja/revival can beat flash, jaedong I haven't seen enough of his zvt lately to know.
When I think of something else, something will go here
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 04 2013 06:48 GMT
#96
On January 04 2013 13:47 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 20:48 raga4ka wrote:
On January 03 2013 16:48 Emzeeshady wrote:
On January 03 2013 16:36 GolemMadness wrote:
Incoming Flash all kill.

He will be lucky if he beats Revival. If he does then EGTL can send out literally any Terran player to snipe him.


You are kiding yourself if you think that anyone besides Taeja from EGTL's terran line-up can beat Flash .


I find myself saying the same thing about you saying that taeja is the only player on EGTL who can beat flash. Far from likely, I bet hero/taeja/revival can beat flash, jaedong I haven't seen enough of his zvt lately to know.


He said from their terran line up.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
January 04 2013 07:03 GMT
#97
On January 03 2013 15:02 iamho wrote:
Its crazy how overrated EGTL is, the way people talk about them you'd think they were 7-0 in R1 and not 3-4.


They had some growing pains, and they REALLY shouldn't have used beloved HuK or (IMO) Thorzain, though even he pulled out a win eventually.

...But you're crazy if you don't think a team with Taeja, Hero, JD and Stephano isn't a true force to be reckoned with in winner's league format.
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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
January 04 2013 07:04 GMT
#98
Jaedong and PuMa confirmed to not be available for the match against SKT. They may also not be available for the match against KT if they need to be flown out 2+ days prior to the event in Vegas... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391478
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
January 04 2013 07:07 GMT
#99
Poor JYP is hitting a monster like Fantasy. Good luck EGTL
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Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 09:07:44
January 04 2013 19:30 GMT
#100
Aww yes, WL will be so sweet. I'm definitely calling the Light all-kill. Khans' performance has been so underwhelming lately. T_T
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 05:52:05
January 04 2013 19:41 GMT
#101
Very intresting I hope khan will die for my fpl :D
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