Just confirmed on Millenium's stream that Goswser has indeed moved to Millenium. Pretty interesting as until very recently he was never putting out fantastic results, so you wouldn't expect a team like Millenium to pick him up ^^ Goswser says main reasons for the move are his desire to compete in Europe. Hopefully he does well, and I wish him luck.
Today, six weeks after Dayshi's arrival, Millenium is proud to welcome Micheal 'Goswser' Dobler (i.e. gosu-user) in their Starcraft 2 team ! The recruitment of a new Zerg equilibrates the line up a little more, which has been managed by Llewellys since Stephano left for Evil Geniuses.
Goswser is one of those up-and-coming NA players of this year. He ,along with Insur, Suppy, ViBE (sic) and Illusion, is among the new prodigies hailing from across the Atlantic. At the end of last year (T/N: 2012-11-16), he was promoted from compLexity's academy, a section dedicated to the nurturing of new amateur talents, to compLexity's main team.
The Zerg never traveled outside the U.S., though that has not prevented him from shining as evidenced by his success in various MLG. He often had to go through the open bracket, a rough bracket granting a few places in the Championship Bracket. Twice (in MLG Dallas and Raleigh 2012) Goswser managed to advance and win against the likes of ThorZaIN, Polt, QXC or ToD. During the World Championship Series (WCS), organized by Blizzard, Michael rose to a top 16 in both the USA and NA finals.
It was during the qualifications of the MSI Pro Cup Worldwide that he was revealed to the eyes of the French community. Goswser won the tournament U.S. - where eight of the best players in the region were invited - winning versus HuK, Sheth and Scarlett, currently considered one of the top three non-Korean Zerg. Michael will participated in the main event this week, while staying at the Millenium's Gaming House in Marseille until at least February.
Llewellys's interview I discovered this player during MSI Pro Cup Qualifiers Worldwide NA (T/N: where he filled in for ViBE). I found his games interesting, so I started to follow him.
During our discussions, I learned to know him better and his career is rather singular. Initially a Complexity academy player, he rose through the ranks, one by one, to climb into the first team. From scratch, he was met with sizeable success coming out of the famous open bracket of MLG, qualifying for IPL 5, IronSquid 2 and MSI Pro Cup Worldwide.
I particularly like his determination to try to qualify to every tournament. Now he wants to pass another level with Millenium and I truly believe he is capable of doing so. An agreement was quickly found and Millenium is happy to welcome Goswser within its team.
I hope the wait was not too long (we waited for complexity to release him) I decided to delay the announcement for a few days, as I know he is not very well known in France and it was a perfect opportunity to present live from the Gaming House as he arrived this morning.
Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
isnt goswser one of the best players in Na and recently did quite well in iron squid. If he reaches top 8 eu gm is less than a week i would say he lives up to his hype
Congrats Goswser~~ Very interesting choice to seek European tournaments, as the competition is generally more intense than here in the States. Either way, best of luck (:
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
I wouldn't call Stephano a player. He is something over this world. He changed how this game was played completly, and this was not because of Millenium. It would've happened wherever he was
On December 11 2012 04:08 Rescawen wrote: isnt goswser one of the best players in Na and recently did quite well in iron squid. If he reaches top 8 eu gm is less than a week i would say he lives up to his hype
Well as I said in the thread, he hasn't been putting up great results until now, where obviously he is doing really well in the Iron Squid.
On December 11 2012 04:08 Rescawen wrote: isnt goswser one of the best players in Na and recently did quite well in iron squid. If he reaches top 8 eu gm is less than a week i would say he lives up to his hype
Pretty debatable imo. But nonetheless, grats to Goswser and Millenium
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
I wouldn't call Stephano a player. He is something over this world. He changed how this game was played completly, and this was not because of Millenium. It would've happened wherever he was
Stephano didn't exactly change how the game was played. Sure he changed the ZvP matchup a lot, but apart from that, he really hasn't done that much special on the game changing front.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Feast is definitely not a low level player and Adelscott just came second in WCG winning 10000 dollars in the process.
On December 11 2012 04:12 Ampersand799 wrote: Congrats to Goswser and whoever guessed right in the Complexity thread. Glad to see an American player broaden his horizons to a European team.
The main discussion didn't happen here but a month ago on Millenium's forum (Credits : gzzby, Lancelot, GL999 and myself). It was 100% confirmed a few days ago.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
I wouldn't call Stephano a player. He is something over this world. He changed how this game was played completly, and this was not because of Millenium. It would've happened wherever he was
Stephano didn't exactly change how the game was played. Sure he changed the ZvP matchup a lot, but apart from that, he really hasn't done that much special on the game changing front.
On December 11 2012 04:14 farvacola wrote: Pretty awesome, now the French can cheer "USA! USA! USA!" as well
Ahah, WE WILL NEVER DO THAT! :p
Really happy to see him join Mill. Just saw his style of play in Iron squid and really liked it! Finally an original zerg playstyle! Wish you the best.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
I wouldn't call Stephano a player. He is something over this world. He changed how this game was played completly, and this was not because of Millenium. It would've happened wherever he was
Stephano didn't exactly change how the game was played. Sure he changed the ZvP matchup a lot, but apart from that, he really hasn't done that much special on the game changing front.
Yeah, because he didn't add anything to TvZ...
Assuming you're talking about Infestor Ultra Ling, I've been seeing that long before Stephano started doing it on the big stages, so no, no he didn't. If you're talking about something else, well I was pretty out of the SC2 scene from January to July of this year, so maybe there was something I missed.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Plus, you know, HuK won some small event called MLG while on Millenium. No big deal or anything
On December 11 2012 04:12 Ampersand799 wrote: Congrats to Goswser and whoever guessed right in the Complexity thread. Glad to see an American player broaden his horizons to a European team.
The main discussion didn't happen here but a month ago on Millenium's forum (Credits : gzzby, Lancelot, GL999 and myself). It was 100% confirmed a few days ago.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Adelscott has put up good results in france events in 2011 (and Millenium's sponsors target is not only europe, they care a lot about france too) as well as every M player. ForGG has imo good enough results to represent M in inter, not as good as Stephano but he still had very good results for a korean training in europe without other koreans practice partners (sorry Dragon). Basically in the past Tarson, Diestar and LaLush were there to bring up european results, but they have quite fallen off so I'll give you that.
Edit : oh and gratz for Goswser, I'm not a fan of either M/Goswer but it's pretty cool to have an american player wanting to participate in EU events, in a french team :D.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Plus, you know, HuK won some small event called MLG while on Millenium. No big deal or anything
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Plus, you know, HuK won some small event called MLG while on Millenium. No big deal or anything
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Plus, you know, HuK won some small event called MLG while on Millenium. No big deal or anything
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2010_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Raleigh I believe it's the right link. Was cool when Stephano, unknown at the time by the viewers, beat the old Millenium HuK who left for a richer team. ForGG did the same to Stephano in dreamhack haha :D.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Just confirmed on Millenium's stream that Goswser has indeed moved to Millenium. Pretty interesting as until very recently he was never putting out fantastic results, so you wouldn't expect a team like Millenium to pick him up ^^ Goswser says main reasons for the move are his desire to compete in Europe. Hopefully he does well, and I wish him luck.
Just confirmed on Millenium's stream that Goswser has indeed moved to Millenium. Pretty interesting as until very recently he was never putting out fantastic results, so you wouldn't expect a team like Millenium to pick him up ^^ Goswser says main reasons for the move are his desire to compete in Europe. Hopefully he does well, and I wish him luck.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Just confirmed on Millenium's stream that Goswser has indeed moved to Millenium. Pretty interesting as until very recently he was never putting out fantastic results, so you wouldn't expect a team like Millenium to pick him up ^^ Goswser says main reasons for the move are his desire to compete in Europe. Hopefully he does well, and I wish him luck.
Wow very surprising. I thought Goswser was going to continue to be a key staple in the coL team. Congrats to though Goswser; hope its a wonderful adventure in your eSports career! Sorry to hear coL :/ <3
Today, six weeks after the announcement of Dayshi being added to the team, Millenium is proud to welcome the american Micheal "Goswser" Dobler (pronounced gosu user) in the starcraft 2 team ! The arrival of a new zerg player balances our line-up managed by Llewellys since Stephano's departure for EG
Goswser is one of the relevation of this year on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean, alongside Insur, Suppy, ViBE and Illusion.
By the end of last year, he has been promoted to the compLexity main roster, after his passage in the CompLexity Academy.
Goswser never participated in events out of the U.S. which didn't stop him from shining in MLGs in which he had to go through the open bracket, beating a lot of established players like ThorZaIN, Polt, qxc and ToD. He also achieved top 16 in Blizzard's World Championship Series (WCS) in both american finals and North American Finals (not sure what they mean there...)
The Zerg player revealed himself to the French community during MSI Pro Cup Worldwide's qualification rounds, alongside HuK, Sheth and Scarlett. Micheal will participate in the main tournament from the Millenium Gaming House in Marseille where he will stay until february.
I hope this helps, was really hard to translate, really weird sentence syntax XD.
Today, 6 weeks after Daishi join the team, Millenium is proud that the american player Michael "Goswser" Dobler (pronounce gosu user) join the Starcraft 2 team ! This new Zerg player balance the line upof the manager Llewellys since Stephano leaves Millenium for Evil Geniuses.
Interview of Goswser by Complexity
Goswser is one of the NA revelation this year. He's, with Insur, Suppy, ViBE and Illusion, one of the best new american player.
Last year he was promoted to the first compLexity line up, after his training in the Academy.
The Zerg never leaves US before, but he has still made some MLG. In fact, Goswser has often pass by the Open Bracket, a big open tree to win some place in the main tournament. 2 times, during MLG Dallas and Raleigh 2012, he obtain his ticket for the rest of the evennement, realize some good achievement. Like beating ThorZaIN, Polt, qxc or ToD. During the WCS, organized by Blizzard, Michael gain a place in the 16 better player, in the US series, and the NA series.
At the occasion of the MSI Pro Cup Worldwide, he reveal himself to the french community. Goswser win the NA tournament, where players like HuK, Sheth or Scarlett (considered as one of the 3 best non-korean zerg in the world) were playing too. Goswser will made the main tournament this week in the Millenium Gaming House in Marseille, where he will live at least till February.
Goswser's High Fact
2012
- Iron Squid 2 : qualified for the round of 16 - HyperX 10 years : qualified for the round of 16 - MLG Dallas 2012 : qualified in main tree by the Open Bracket - Qualified MSI Pro Cup America - MLG Raleigh 2012 : qualified in main tree by the Open Bracket - WCS NA : top 16 - EG Master's Cup with compLexity - WCS USA : top 16
2011
- Promoted to team A after pass through the comLexity Academy - MLG Orlando 2011 : finalist of the Open Bracket
My translation is not totally correct, sorry for my poor english, hope this will help
Another zerg. As a jaded terran player I feel sad. On another note I dislike goswsers id, making me think bowser and I have hardly ever played mario. Though I gotta hand it to the guy for clawing his way up the ranks to become a decent enough player and be picked up by a good foreign team.
Today, six weeks after the announcement of Dayshi being added to the team, Millenium is proud to welcome the american Micheal "Goswser" Dobler (pronounced gosu user) in the starcraft 2 team ! The arrival of a new zerg player balances our line-up managed by Llewellys since Stephano's departure for EG
Goswser is one of the relevation of this year on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean, alongside Insur, Suppy, ViBE and Illusion.
By the end of last year, he has been promoted to the compLexity main roster, after his passage in the CompLexity Academy.
Goswser never participated in events out of the U.S. which didn't stop him from shining in MLGs in which he had to go through the open bracket, beating a lot of established players like ThorZaIN, Polt, qxc and ToD. He also achieved top 16 in Blizzard's World Championship Series (WCS) in both american finals and North American Finals (not sure what they mean there...)
The Zerg player revealed himself to the French community during MSI Pro Cup Worldwide's qualification rounds, alongside HuK, Sheth and Scarlett. Micheal will participate in the main tournament from the Millenium Gaming House in Marseille where he will stay until february.
I hope this helps, was really hard to translate, really weird sentence syntax XD.
There was US/Canada/Mexico WCS qualifiers, top players from those then went to the combined NA qualifiers to see who got through to WCS finals. I assume he placed top 16 in US and then overall NA qualifiers.
Today, six weeks after the announcement of Dayshi being added to the team, Millenium is proud to welcome the american Micheal "Goswser" Dobler (pronounced gosu user) in the starcraft 2 team ! The arrival of a new zerg player balances our line-up managed by Llewellys since Stephano's departure for EG
Goswser is one of the relevation of this year on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean, alongside Insur, Suppy, ViBE and Illusion.
By the end of last year, he has been promoted to the compLexity main roster, after his passage in the CompLexity Academy.
Goswser never participated in events out of the U.S. which didn't stop him from shining in MLGs in which he had to go through the open bracket, beating a lot of established players like ThorZaIN, Polt, qxc and ToD. He also achieved top 16 in Blizzard's World Championship Series (WCS) in both american finals and North American Finals (not sure what they mean there...)
The Zerg player revealed himself to the French community during MSI Pro Cup Worldwide's qualification rounds, alongside HuK, Sheth and Scarlett. Micheal will participate in the main tournament from the Millenium Gaming House in Marseille where he will stay until february.
I hope this helps, was really hard to translate, really weird sentence syntax XD.
There was US/Canada/Mexico WCS qualifiers, top players from those then went to the combined NA qualifiers to see who got through to WCS finals. I assume he placed top 16 in US and then overall NA qualifiers.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Yeah Right. Adelscott. 2nd place WCG 2012. Even if it was not the biggest event ever. It still had very good player (PartinG, MKP, Fraer ....). ForGG was two or three times 2nd to some big events ( he Lost 3-2 vs TaeJa, but don't remember where) He shows some very good results since he is in Millenium.
Concerning [M]Goswser, it's a very good recruit I guess. He showed some very good things for 2 months (MLG, Iron Squid) and with a serious Training in Millenium's Gaming House, I'm pretty sur he'll have good results !
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
I wouldn't call Stephano a player. He is something over this world. He changed how this game was played completly, and this was not because of Millenium. It would've happened wherever he was
Stephano didn't exactly change how the game was played. Sure he changed the ZvP matchup a lot, but apart from that, he really hasn't done that much special on the game changing front.
Hmm, He changed how ZvT was played. No other player in the world has had such an impact on how one race was played
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
I wouldn't call Stephano a player. He is something over this world. He changed how this game was played completly, and this was not because of Millenium. It would've happened wherever he was
Stephano didn't exactly change how the game was played. Sure he changed the ZvP matchup a lot, but apart from that, he really hasn't done that much special on the game changing front.
Hmm, He changed how ZvT was played. No other player in the world has had such an impact on how one race was played
Well...I'd say a fair amount of Terran players have revolutionized the various matchups a few times...
The "This Week in SC2" thread for this week is gonna be packed in the transactions section. I feel like every few hours there's a new "*player* leaves *team*" or "*team* signs *player*" thread.
I hope Goswser gets to grind it up in the EU and crush face next major event he goes to. USA chanting is ready to be unleashed.
How can people still try to bring Greg into the equation when he's only put two series together in the WCS of late.
He'll definitely benefit from staying in Korea for a year if that is the case, but no.
I don't know, we haven't actually seen a lot of his play as of late, and what we have seen he's been looking pretty strong actually. So hopefully he can do well in the future, because his stay in Korea I feel will make him much better.
Sorry, why? All I see is Destiny all ining him, Goswser trys to win with one last push, fails and then Destiny starts BMing in the normal Destiny (usually racist) way.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Plus, you know, HuK won some small event called MLG while on Millenium. No big deal or anything
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Yeah Right. Adelscott. 2nd place WCG 2012. Even if it was not the biggest event ever. It still had very good player (PartinG, MKP, Fraer ....). ForGG was two or three times 2nd to some big events ( he Lost 3-2 vs TaeJa, but don't remember where) He shows some very good results since he is in Millenium.
Concerning [M]Goswser, it's a very good recruit I guess. He showed some very good things for 2 months (MLG, Iron Squid) and with a serious Training in Millenium's Gaming House, I'm pretty sur he'll have good results !
I said Fantastic results. Adelscott had an insanely easy group, with and defeat Fenix who we havent seen in a tournament for 2 years, and then Lowely. Yeah sure, Lowely is good, we know that ,but all the ones he defeated are just other patchzergs/mediocre european prottses. There hasn't been a TOURNAMENT WINNING player on Millenium with the exception of the MLG HUK won + Stephano. The End.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So what do you suggest? Buy a korean into the team? I like their mixture, not going for made champions, but promising rising players.
And about "fantastic" results: What non-korean besides Stephano has produced them in recent times?
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Yeah Right. Adelscott. 2nd place WCG 2012. Even if it was not the biggest event ever. It still had very good player (PartinG, MKP, Fraer ....). ForGG was two or three times 2nd to some big events ( he Lost 3-2 vs TaeJa, but don't remember where) He shows some very good results since he is in Millenium.
Concerning [M]Goswser, it's a very good recruit I guess. He showed some very good things for 2 months (MLG, Iron Squid) and with a serious Training in Millenium's Gaming House, I'm pretty sur he'll have good results !
I said Fantastic results. Adelscott had an insanely easy group, with and defeat Fenix who we havent seen in a tournament for 2 years, and then Lowely. Yeah sure, Lowely is good, we know that ,but all the ones he defeated are just other patchzergs/mediocre european prottses. There hasn't been a TOURNAMENT WINNING player on Millenium with the exception of the MLG HUK won + Stephano. The End.
What in gods name possessed you to come into this thread and bash Millenium lol. Tell me, what was your last account banned for?
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Yeah Right. Adelscott. 2nd place WCG 2012. Even if it was not the biggest event ever. It still had very good player (PartinG, MKP, Fraer ....). ForGG was two or three times 2nd to some big events ( he Lost 3-2 vs TaeJa, but don't remember where) He shows some very good results since he is in Millenium.
Concerning [M]Goswser, it's a very good recruit I guess. He showed some very good things for 2 months (MLG, Iron Squid) and with a serious Training in Millenium's Gaming House, I'm pretty sur he'll have good results !
I said Fantastic results. Adelscott had an insanely easy group, with and defeat Fenix who we havent seen in a tournament for 2 years, and then Lowely. Yeah sure, Lowely is good, we know that ,but all the ones he defeated are just other patchzergs/mediocre european prottses. There hasn't been a TOURNAMENT WINNING player on Millenium with the exception of the MLG HUK won + Stephano. The End.
It's so funny, with the exception of the MLG HuK won + Stephano, foreigners in EG did not win anything at all neither. xD
Moreover you forget Feast's 4th place at IEM World Championship, a pretty stacked tournament! The only foreigner in top8!
Millenium creates talents, EG buys talents, choose you side, I choosed mine.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
what?
dreamhack valencia runner up?
Dragon's silly stream? (whos no longer millnium)
It is pretty mediocore, to be honest
Let's say you are 25, you got out of high-school, into a university and got a nice corporate job ? Well at the same age Mozart had already hit the peak of his career, imprinting classical music (and music in general) for the centuries to come. I guess you are pretty mediocre to be honest compared to Mozart, aren't you ?
It's easy to dismiss the work of Millenium and its players saying they never win anything, but its a middle-of-the-pack team, with good but not extraordinary players. That's the workforce of SC2. They are also a reliable (and fast paying) tournament organizer who recently stepped up their production. Of course, it cannot compare to IM or Startale but why should they ?
PS : Also I already told you to format your posts properly by removing the unnecessary carriage return. Please do so.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
what?
dreamhack valencia runner up?
Dragon's silly stream? (whos no longer millnium)
It is pretty mediocore, to be honest
Let's say you are 25, you got out of high-school, into a university and got a nice corporate job ? Well at the same age Mozart had already hit the peak of his career, imprinting classical music (and music in general) for the centuries to come. I guess you are pretty mediocre to be honest compared to Mozart, aren't you ?
It's easy to dismiss the work of Millenium and its players saying they never win anything, but its a middle-of-the-pack team, with good but not extraordinary players. That's the workforce of SC2. They are also a reliable (and fast paying) tournament organizer who recently stepped up their production. Of course, it cannot compare to IM or Startale but why should they ?
PS : Also I already told you to format your posts properly by removing the unnecessary carriage return. Please do so.
I was thinking the other day that Millenium was running 4 tournaments at one time :
- MSI Pro Cup Worldwide - HP Trophy - Numericable M-House Cup Qualifiers - Francophone Championship
SO sick to see him join a team like Millenium. I have been following Goswser's progress since he was in the CoL Academy, and I am so glad to see how much he has improved and made a name for himself.
[QUOTE]On December 11 2012 04:08 Rescawen wrote: isnt goswser one of the best players in Na and recently did quite well in iron squid. If he reaches top 8 eu gm is less than a week i would say he lives up to his hype[/QUOTE But what if he's not playing ladder and plays practice games
On December 11 2012 04:08 Rescawen wrote: isnt goswser one of the best players in Na and recently did quite well in iron squid. If he reaches top 8 eu gm is less than a week i would say he lives up to his hype
But what if he's not playing ladder and plays practice games
How can people still try to bring Greg into the equation when he's only put two series together in the WCS of late.
He'll definitely benefit from staying in Korea for a year if that is the case, but no.
idra is a much better player, if you actually watch idras stream idra wins 80-90% of the games between him and goswser..
I never compared goswser to IdrA. I rarely ever tune into Greg's stream. I don't care for Ladder practice as it's a piss poor measure nor do I throw numbers out of my butt.
On December 11 2012 08:57 Freezd wrote: Why would they pick him up????? I'm lost. x.x
Llewellys thinks he has some potential. He thought the same with Huk and Stephano in SC2, and ToD for WC3. Even he's french he might be right. Who knows....
Plus he met Kaldor when he had hairs, this manager is worth gold.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
what?
dreamhack valencia runner up?
Dragon's silly stream? (whos no longer millnium)
It is pretty mediocore, to be honest
Let's say you are 25, you got out of high-school, into a university and got a nice corporate job ? Well at the same age Mozart had already hit the peak of his career, imprinting classical music (and music in general) for the centuries to come. I guess you are pretty mediocre to be honest compared to Mozart, aren't you ?
It's easy to dismiss the work of Millenium and its players saying they never win anything, but its a middle-of-the-pack team, with good but not extraordinary players. That's the workforce of SC2. They are also a reliable (and fast paying) tournament organizer who recently stepped up their production. Of course, it cannot compare to IM or Startale but why should they ?
PS : Also I already told you to format your posts properly by removing the unnecessary carriage return. Please do so.
That mozart analogy was utter garbage, Well I understand thats as far as you can go with
the small brain of yours. Millenium guys never win anything (minus stephano who is no longer on the team)
and thats pretty mediocore to me. Who the hell cares about "oh they post decent results, just not any championships
herp derp " ? I never stated mil players are trash who dont know how to play, theyre capable of taking games off top
notch players from time to time, but not exactly championship contenders.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
what?
dreamhack valencia runner up?
Dragon's silly stream? (whos no longer millnium)
It is pretty mediocore, to be honest
Let's say you are 25, you got out of high-school, into a university and got a nice corporate job ? Well at the same age Mozart had already hit the peak of his career, imprinting classical music (and music in general) for the centuries to come. I guess you are pretty mediocre to be honest compared to Mozart, aren't you ?
It's easy to dismiss the work of Millenium and its players saying they never win anything, but its a middle-of-the-pack team, with good but not extraordinary players. That's the workforce of SC2. They are also a reliable (and fast paying) tournament organizer who recently stepped up their production. Of course, it cannot compare to IM or Startale but why should they ?
PS : Also I already told you to format your posts properly by removing the unnecessary carriage return. Please do so.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
what?
dreamhack valencia runner up?
Dragon's silly stream? (whos no longer millnium)
It is pretty mediocore, to be honest
Let's say you are 25, you got out of high-school, into a university and got a nice corporate job ? Well at the same age Mozart had already hit the peak of his career, imprinting classical music (and music in general) for the centuries to come. I guess you are pretty mediocre to be honest compared to Mozart, aren't you ?
It's easy to dismiss the work of Millenium and its players saying they never win anything, but its a middle-of-the-pack team, with good but not extraordinary players. That's the workforce of SC2. They are also a reliable (and fast paying) tournament organizer who recently stepped up their production. Of course, it cannot compare to IM or Startale but why should they ?
PS : Also I already told you to format your posts properly by removing the unnecessary carriage return. Please do so.
How can people still try to bring Greg into the equation when he's only put two series together in the WCS of late.
He'll definitely benefit from staying in Korea for a year if that is the case, but no.
idra is a much better player, if you actually watch idras stream idra wins 80-90% of the games between him and goswser..
I never compared goswser to IdrA. I rarely ever tune into Greg's stream. I don't care for Ladder practice as it's a piss poor measure nor do I throw numbers out of my butt.
On December 11 2012 04:09 PyreSC wrote: Congrats Goswser~~ Very interesting choice to seek European tournaments, as the competition is generally more intense than here in the States. Either way, best of luck (:
European tournaments are way easier. Every big NA lan has like 25 Koreans.
im not sure ive seen idra talk more shit to anyone else besides gosu user on stream. every time they play its funny and bitter and i could swear they are joking. but....he seems to play right around the level of idra or vibe, which is pretty much saying a lot.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
I wouldn't call Stephano a player. He is something over this world. He changed how this game was played completly, and this was not because of Millenium. It would've happened wherever he was
Stephano didn't exactly change how the game was played. Sure he changed the ZvP matchup a lot, but apart from that, he really hasn't done that much special on the game changing front.
modern day zvt and zvp are based on styles he used and perfected. that's pretty game-changing
Why the hell do we keep discussing the matter of what was won by Millenium ? Stephano won several huge tournaments wearing their jersey. That's it. Millenium WON huge tourneys. You can't take thoses wins away simply because they're Stephanos.
Picking out Stephano's results from Mill is like not considering the wins of Puma (a loooooooooooooooong time ago) for EG, the wins of Nerchio for Acer or of Mana for Mouz.
GL to Goswer second best NA after Scarlett (mainly because the rest of NA sucks so much), he is in the Mill house, the EU ladder can only make him improve. Will see how far he can go in the next months.
On December 11 2012 17:22 Eshra wrote: Why the hell do we keep discussing the matter of what was won by Millenium ? Stephano won several huge tournaments wearing their jersey. That's it. Millenium WON huge tourneys. You can't take thoses wins away simply because they're Stephanos.
Especially since Stephano grew as a WC3 player playing for Millenium, and on SC2 playing for Millenium lol. They deserve his wins almost more than EG will deserve his.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
I wouldn't call Stephano a player. He is something over this world. He changed how this game was played completly, and this was not because of Millenium. It would've happened wherever he was
Stephano didn't exactly change how the game was played. Sure he changed the ZvP matchup a lot, but apart from that, he really hasn't done that much special on the game changing front.
Before Stephano everyone went muta ling baneling in the ZvT matchup. Stephano was the one who made ling infestor work on a competitive level. He changed ZvT in a major way.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
You forgot that Feast had done a Top 4 at IEM world... And Adelscott just took the 2nd place at WCG. Forgg 2nd place at assembly and dreamhack... Yeah pretty poor results
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
You forgot that Feast had done a Top 4 at IEM world... And Adelscott just took the 2nd place at WCG. Forgg 2nd place at assembly and dreamhack... Yeah pretty poor results
Well we can agree that Feast did only one performance in his all carrier but he is a good player and (10 toss EU). Adelscott is a very mediocre player low EU which had the chance to participate to a low level competition without beeing qualified.
The real performances are from Forgg (2nd DH,2nd ESWC and 3rd AsusROG). Many teams dont do better (EG?)
On December 11 2012 17:24 QuanticPrOmise wrote: I completely agree with Major about lesser known players not getting enough recognition or are thought of as being "bad".
Congrats Goswser, best of luck!
Okay, you just made me look through the whole thread, where is that statement from major you are referring to?
On December 11 2012 17:24 QuanticPrOmise wrote: I completely agree with Major about lesser known players not getting enough recognition or are thought of as being "bad".
Congrats Goswser, best of luck!
Okay, you just made me look through the whole thread, where is that statement from major you are referring to?
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
Yeah, this is the most retarded thing to say. Feast has put up pretty good results, maybe do some fact checking before you talk.
On December 12 2012 21:49 Zerg.Zilla wrote: Somehow i feel like this is a stap backward for Millenium
He's been posting great results lately. Better than most of the others on Millenium, I mean look how he's doing in the HyperX 15,000 tourney, just beat polt 3-1 and that's not the first upset he's made against Koreans.
On December 12 2012 21:49 Zerg.Zilla wrote: Somehow i feel like this is a stap backward for Millenium
He's been posting great results lately. Better than most of the others on Millenium, I mean look how he's doing in the HyperX 15,000 tourney, just beat polt 3-1 and that's not the first upset he's made against Koreans.
That's not even the first upset he's made against polt. ^.^
Really hope he puts NA on the map. Right now the only person we have showing decent results (as in top 32 in comps.) is idra, illusion, and I think that might be it.
On December 13 2012 18:15 xtyxtbx wrote: Really hope he puts NA on the map. Right now the only person we have showing decent results (as in top 32 in comps.) is idra, illusion, and I think that might be it.
or scarlett who has done 10 times better then those 2 combined lol
On December 13 2012 18:15 xtyxtbx wrote: Really hope he puts NA on the map. Right now the only person we have showing decent results (as in top 32 in comps.) is idra, illusion, and I think that might be it.
or scarlett who has done 10 times better then those 2 combined lol
On December 14 2012 20:11 iKill wrote: I care not for your frivolous use of letters, I shall continue to pronounce your name Goss-wurr-surr unfettered.
On December 11 2012 04:05 Duggibobo wrote: Not a single player in Millenium player has ever put out fantastic results, beside Stephano, who is in EG these days... ForGG is good, but the rest are low-medium mediocre players in Europe,
So... I guess some players DID put up fantastic resultats while playing for Millenium. Your statement is pretty stupid, to be honest.
I wouldn't call Stephano a player. He is something over this world. He changed how this game was played completly, and this was not because of Millenium. It would've happened wherever he was
Stephano didn't exactly change how the game was played. Sure he changed the ZvP matchup a lot, but apart from that, he really hasn't done that much special on the game changing front.
Yeah, because he didn't add anything to TvZ...
Assuming you're talking about Infestor Ultra Ling, I've been seeing that long before Stephano started doing it on the big stages, so no, no he didn't. If you're talking about something else, well I was pretty out of the SC2 scene from January to July of this year, so maybe there was something I missed.
Stephano popularized double ling upgrades and going mass ling to stop pushes such as the 3 tank push. He pretty much killed that build and we never see it because of him, not 100% on that though.
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