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6BiT
513 Posts
Dark wearing T1 uniform, seems he has joined as a trainee (contract isn't finalised yet). ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UETb4.jpg) Check out his Code A qualifier interview translated by wozzot : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381312#1 Good luck to Dark, will be interesting to see where the other players end up. [ Did a quick search, found no thread on this. apologies if it already exists. If there is any more info, send me a pm and I'll add it to the OP ] | ||
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Champi
1422 Posts
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On November 11 2012 21:55 Mandalor wrote: So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa? SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player. | ||
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6BiT
513 Posts
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Fabozi
Slovakia336 Posts
On November 11 2012 21:55 Mandalor wrote: So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa? the agreement included slayers but it doesn't matter since slayers is no more | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
i believe most of ex-slayers players except mma, alicia, ryung and crank will joing skt1 | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
On November 11 2012 21:54 S_SienZ wrote: Awesome to see a SlayerS player continue under BoxeR's wing i hope boxer will get cella a job at skt1 as a coach.. that would be awesome. | ||
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RiSkysc2
696 Posts
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WetSocks
United States953 Posts
how about cella  | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
On November 11 2012 21:56 TheOneAboveU wrote: SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player. I guess I'm being paranoid about this, but if the agreement works this way, KeSPA teams could easily just buy ESF teams and make them "disband" to get their players. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45409 Posts
 Congrats! | ||
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
Congrats to Dark and SKT. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3691 Posts
On November 11 2012 21:56 TheOneAboveU wrote: SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player. The no trade thingie also involved slayers. The difference is that slayers disbanded so it's not a transfer, skt just picked up a teamless player who happened to have been a ex slayers member. Think of it as a loophole. @Mandalor: There currently is no eSF team that kespa could "just" buy, all remaining eSF teams are very stable financially and have big enough sponsor contracts going on that you can't just buy them if you feel like it. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45409 Posts
On November 11 2012 22:29 WArped wrote: KT to sign MMA next and have him slay Dark in pro-league, that would be fitting. Congrats to Dark and SKT. Just imagine SKT vs. KT next time around... Boxer vs. Son of Boxer o.o | ||
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Trasko
Sweden983 Posts
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On November 11 2012 22:15 Mandalor wrote: I guess I'm being paranoid about this, but if the agreement works this way, KeSPA teams could easily just buy ESF teams and make them "disband" to get their players. It doesn't really matter whether KeSPA could find a legal loophole in their agreement, the point is that ESF has leverage. If KeSPA fucked them over by breaking the agreement or the spirit of the agreement, then ESF would withdraw from OSL and stop all cooperation with KeSPA/OSL. And they may force foreign organizations to take sides telling them "you either work with us or KeSPA, but not both". It would hurt both parties terribly and therefore KeSPA cannot just do whatever the hell it likes. A small version of this was seen when KeSPA didn't want to participate in GSL initially, and ESF then withdrew temporarily from the OSL. Regarding Dark: Good for him, hope he does well in SKT1. It is always sad when someone dedicates a considerable amount of their youth to progamming and then ends up with almost nothing to show for it. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
Congrats on qualifying for Code A! | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
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TR
2320 Posts
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Paragleiber
413 Posts
On November 11 2012 22:33 Lorch wrote: all remaining eSF teams are very stable financially and have big enough sponsor contracts going on that you can't just buy them if you feel like it. Why does Prime have to ask for financial support on reddit then? | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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ffrozenfish
820 Posts
On November 11 2012 22:59 Paragleiber wrote: Why does Prime have to ask for financial support on reddit then? Everybody needs financial support Grats Dark | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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farnham
1378 Posts
On November 11 2012 22:29 WArped wrote: KT to sign MMA next and have him slay Dark in pro-league, that would be fitting. Congrats to Dark and SKT. Doubt this will happen.. MMA has a very bad image in korea and he also doesnot want to be in a kespa team | ||
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Zer atai
United States691 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On November 11 2012 22:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Just imagine SKT vs. KT next time around... Boxer vs. Son of Boxer o.o Even better, an MMA vs Fantasy matchup. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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PiQLiQ
Sweden702 Posts
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imPermanenCe
Netherlands595 Posts
On November 11 2012 22:33 Lorch wrote: The no trade thingie also involved slayers. The difference is that slayers disbanded so it's not a transfer, skt just picked up a teamless player who happened to have been a ex slayers member. Think of it as a loophole. @Mandalor: There currently is no eSF team that kespa could "just" buy, all remaining eSF teams are very stable financially and have big enough sponsor contracts going on that you can't just buy them if you feel like it. Prime. They lack serious money. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On November 11 2012 22:37 rasnj wrote: It doesn't really matter whether KeSPA could find a legal loophole in their agreement, the point is that ESF has leverage. If KeSPA fucked them over by breaking the agreement or the spirit of the agreement, then ESF would withdraw from OSL and stop all cooperation with KeSPA/OSL. And they may force foreign organizations to take sides telling them "you either work with us or KeSPA, but not both". It would hurt both parties terribly and therefore KeSPA cannot just do whatever the hell it likes. A small version of this was seen when KeSPA didn't want to participate in GSL initially, and ESF then withdrew temporarily from the OSL. ESF doesn't really have any real leverage in that hypothetical situation, I mean when kespa buys all esf players, esf has no players that they can pull out. And foreign organizations, like mlg, would never side with esf. MLG gets way more hype because of the kespa than any other esf player could ever achieve. | ||
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.Wraath
United States262 Posts
On November 11 2012 22:33 Lorch wrote: ,all remaining eSF teams are very stable financially and have big enough sponsor contracts going on NSHoseo? ... | ||
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
I think we have a little too much teams now and i believe eventually we will cut down even more to less. | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
On November 12 2012 00:37 poorcloud wrote: TSL is stable?Most kespa teams are stable and the real stable esf teams are Startale, FXO, LGIM, TSL and MVP. I think we have a little too much teams now and i believe eventually we will cut down even more to less. | ||
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PixelNite
France1008 Posts
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
On November 11 2012 22:05 farnham wrote: makes sense... i believe most of ex-slayers players except mma, alicia, ryung and crank will joing skt1 ryung and crank have both joined axiom (totalbiscuit's team) and mma is deciding between axiom and eg atm | ||
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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farnham
1378 Posts
On November 12 2012 01:47 Ettick wrote: ryung and crank have both joined axiom (totalbiscuit's team) and mma is deciding between axiom and eg atm I know... Just saying that those four will probably not join a korean team anytime soon | ||
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
On November 12 2012 02:04 farnham wrote: I know... Just saying that those four will probably not join a korean team anytime soon Oh, sorry. I misread your post lol | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On November 11 2012 23:02 HaXXspetten wrote: Final and unquestionable evidence that SKT1 is in fact the Dark side KT should buy YoDa from IM. They already have wookie | ||
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LiLSighKoh
United States588 Posts
 has a lot of potential! | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
Congrats to Dark! | ||
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RiceAgainst
United States1849 Posts
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amazingoopah
United States1925 Posts
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-TGO-
United States156 Posts
SKT1Dark fighting! | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2012 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18621 Posts
On November 11 2012 22:15 Mandalor wrote: I guess I'm being paranoid about this, but if the agreement works this way, KeSPA teams could easily just buy ESF teams and make them "disband" to get their players. of course they could but they'd just lose fans | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On November 11 2012 21:56 TheOneAboveU wrote: SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player. Still.. For bw you needed to get a license to play on a team and one of the only ways to get that was courage.. Great to see Kespa picking up new players without all the bureaucracy. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
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Teodice
Sweden641 Posts
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NotoriousBig
Germany301 Posts
So thsi means that kespa takes the ESF players very serious. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On November 12 2012 05:19 Kal_rA wrote: Still.. For bw you needed to get a license to play on a team and one of the only ways to get that was courage.. Great to see Kespa picking up new players without all the bureaucracy. i think the concept of the license and courage is pretty much dead at this point. | ||
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