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6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 23:26:42
November 11 2012 12:38 GMT
#1
So we found out recently most of the players reamaining on SlayerS had found a new team (or were in discussions).

Dark wearing T1 uniform, seems he has joined as a trainee (contract isn't finalised yet).

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Check out his Code A qualifier interview translated by wozzot : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381312#1

Good luck to Dark, will be interesting to see where the other players end up.


[ Did a quick search, found no thread on this. apologies if it already exists. If there is any more info, send me a pm and I'll add it to the OP ]
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Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
November 11 2012 12:44 GMT
#2
awesome. SKT has been my fave team since BW. (big bisu and best fan) its good to see theyre recruiting teamless esf players! best of luck to dark. looking forward to where this takes him in sc2 :D
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
November 11 2012 12:54 GMT
#3
Awesome to see a SlayerS player continue under BoxeR's wing
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
November 11 2012 12:55 GMT
#4
So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa?
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
November 11 2012 12:56 GMT
#5
On November 11 2012 21:55 Mandalor wrote:
So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa?


SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 12:59:07
November 11 2012 12:58 GMT
#6
edit: ^ answer above lol
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Fabozi
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
November 11 2012 12:58 GMT
#7
On November 11 2012 21:55 Mandalor wrote:
So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa?

the agreement included slayers but it doesn't matter since slayers is no more
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
November 11 2012 13:05 GMT
#8
makes sense...

i believe most of ex-slayers players except mma, alicia, ryung and crank will joing skt1
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
November 11 2012 13:06 GMT
#9
On November 11 2012 21:54 S_SienZ wrote:
Awesome to see a SlayerS player continue under BoxeR's wing

i hope boxer will get cella a job at skt1 as a coach.. that would be awesome.
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
November 11 2012 13:07 GMT
#10
Grats.
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
November 11 2012 13:09 GMT
#11
I expected him and miya would join a foreign team...good luck!

how about cella
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 11 2012 13:14 GMT
#12
GL Dark hope SKT pickt up a bunch of ex Slayers player! :D
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
November 11 2012 13:15 GMT
#13
On November 11 2012 21:56 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 21:55 Mandalor wrote:
So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa?


SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player.


I guess I'm being paranoid about this, but if the agreement works this way, KeSPA teams could easily just buy ESF teams and make them "disband" to get their players.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45010 Posts
November 11 2012 13:15 GMT
#14
Woo! I was hoping to see Dark go to an awesome team, and I couldn't be more happy with him going to my favorite BW team Congrats!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 13:30:03
November 11 2012 13:29 GMT
#15
KT to sign MMA next and have him slay Dark in pro-league, that would be fitting.

Congrats to Dark and SKT.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 13:34:36
November 11 2012 13:33 GMT
#16
On November 11 2012 21:56 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 21:55 Mandalor wrote:
So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa?


SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player.


The no trade thingie also involved slayers. The difference is that slayers disbanded so it's not a transfer, skt just picked up a teamless player who happened to have been a ex slayers member. Think of it as a loophole.

@Mandalor: There currently is no eSF team that kespa could "just" buy, all remaining eSF teams are very stable financially and have big enough sponsor contracts going on that you can't just buy them if you feel like it.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45010 Posts
November 11 2012 13:36 GMT
#17
On November 11 2012 22:29 WArped wrote:
KT to sign MMA next and have him slay Dark in pro-league, that would be fitting.

Congrats to Dark and SKT.


Just imagine SKT vs. KT next time around... Boxer vs. Son of Boxer o.o
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
November 11 2012 13:37 GMT
#18
Woot! This will be a strong SC2 Team
Jaedong <3
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
November 11 2012 13:37 GMT
#19
On November 11 2012 22:15 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 21:56 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On November 11 2012 21:55 Mandalor wrote:
So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa?


SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player.


I guess I'm being paranoid about this, but if the agreement works this way, KeSPA teams could easily just buy ESF teams and make them "disband" to get their players.

It doesn't really matter whether KeSPA could find a legal loophole in their agreement, the point is that ESF has leverage. If KeSPA fucked them over by breaking the agreement or the spirit of the agreement, then ESF would withdraw from OSL and stop all cooperation with KeSPA/OSL. And they may force foreign organizations to take sides telling them "you either work with us or KeSPA, but not both". It would hurt both parties terribly and therefore KeSPA cannot just do whatever the hell it likes. A small version of this was seen when KeSPA didn't want to participate in GSL initially, and ESF then withdrew temporarily from the OSL.

Regarding Dark: Good for him, hope he does well in SKT1. It is always sad when someone dedicates a considerable amount of their youth to progamming and then ends up with almost nothing to show for it.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 11 2012 13:43 GMT
#20
Congrats to Dark and SKT. Dark is a really good up and coming zerg. I was hoping Prime would somehow find a way to pick him up Congrats on qualifying for Code A!
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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
November 11 2012 13:53 GMT
#21
Oh hey I saw him today at E-Mart, I was like who the heck was he
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
November 11 2012 13:55 GMT
#22
Wow congrats to him!
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
November 11 2012 13:59 GMT
#23
On November 11 2012 22:33 Lorch wrote:
all remaining eSF teams are very stable financially and have big enough sponsor contracts going on that you can't just buy them if you feel like it.


Why does Prime have to ask for financial support on reddit then?
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 11 2012 14:02 GMT
#24
Final and unquestionable evidence that SKT1 is in fact the Dark side
ffrozenfish
Profile Joined May 2011
820 Posts
November 11 2012 14:17 GMT
#25
On November 11 2012 22:59 Paragleiber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 22:33 Lorch wrote:
all remaining eSF teams are very stable financially and have big enough sponsor contracts going on that you can't just buy them if you feel like it.


Why does Prime have to ask for financial support on reddit then?

Everybody needs financial support

Grats Dark
Give us our snipe back - Ghost
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
November 11 2012 14:20 GMT
#26
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farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
November 11 2012 14:26 GMT
#27
On November 11 2012 22:29 WArped wrote:
KT to sign MMA next and have him slay Dark in pro-league, that would be fitting.

Congrats to Dark and SKT.

Doubt this will happen.. MMA has a very bad image in korea and he also doesnot want to be in a kespa team
Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
November 11 2012 14:28 GMT
#28
One of the best up and comers in starcraft. I wish him well
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
November 11 2012 14:42 GMT
#29
On November 11 2012 22:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 22:29 WArped wrote:
KT to sign MMA next and have him slay Dark in pro-league, that would be fitting.

Congrats to Dark and SKT.


Just imagine SKT vs. KT next time around... Boxer vs. Son of Boxer o.o


Even better, an MMA vs Fantasy matchup.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 11 2012 14:54 GMT
#30
From Miya's interview, it disappears that he has also found a team and in the final stages of discussion.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
November 11 2012 14:58 GMT
#31
Dark is very good, good pick up for them.
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
November 11 2012 15:02 GMT
#32
gl Dark!!
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imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
November 11 2012 15:02 GMT
#33
On November 11 2012 22:33 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 21:56 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On November 11 2012 21:55 Mandalor wrote:
So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa?


SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player.


The no trade thingie also involved slayers. The difference is that slayers disbanded so it's not a transfer, skt just picked up a teamless player who happened to have been a ex slayers member. Think of it as a loophole.

@Mandalor: There currently is no eSF team that kespa could "just" buy, all remaining eSF teams are very stable financially and have big enough sponsor contracts going on that you can't just buy them if you feel like it.

Prime. They lack serious money.
Micro at its best is like an elegant dance between two people trying to achieve a similar end.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
November 11 2012 15:21 GMT
#34
On November 11 2012 22:37 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 22:15 Mandalor wrote:
On November 11 2012 21:56 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On November 11 2012 21:55 Mandalor wrote:
So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa?


SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player.


I guess I'm being paranoid about this, but if the agreement works this way, KeSPA teams could easily just buy ESF teams and make them "disband" to get their players.

It doesn't really matter whether KeSPA could find a legal loophole in their agreement, the point is that ESF has leverage. If KeSPA fucked them over by breaking the agreement or the spirit of the agreement, then ESF would withdraw from OSL and stop all cooperation with KeSPA/OSL. And they may force foreign organizations to take sides telling them "you either work with us or KeSPA, but not both". It would hurt both parties terribly and therefore KeSPA cannot just do whatever the hell it likes. A small version of this was seen when KeSPA didn't want to participate in GSL initially, and ESF then withdrew temporarily from the OSL.



ESF doesn't really have any real leverage in that hypothetical situation, I mean when kespa buys all esf players, esf has no players that they can pull out.
And foreign organizations, like mlg, would never side with esf. MLG gets way more hype because of the kespa than any other esf player could ever achieve.
.Wraath
Profile Joined May 2012
United States262 Posts
November 11 2012 15:27 GMT
#35
On November 11 2012 22:33 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 21:56 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On November 11 2012 21:55 Mandalor wrote:
So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa?


SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player.


,all remaining eSF teams are very stable financially and have big enough sponsor contracts going on


NSHoseo? ...

poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
November 11 2012 15:37 GMT
#36
Most kespa teams are stable and the real stable esf teams are Startale, FXO, LGIM, TSL and MVP.

I think we have a little too much teams now and i believe eventually we will cut down even more to less.
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
November 11 2012 16:21 GMT
#37
On November 12 2012 00:37 poorcloud wrote:
Most kespa teams are stable and the real stable esf teams are Startale, FXO, LGIM, TSL and MVP.

I think we have a little too much teams now and i believe eventually we will cut down even more to less.
TSL is stable?
PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
November 11 2012 16:29 GMT
#38
Wonder what will happen with NASL. Dark has been doing well and have a good shot to qualify, but I doubt Kespa will let him compete in NASL finals if he qualifies...
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
November 11 2012 16:47 GMT
#39
On November 11 2012 22:05 farnham wrote:
makes sense...

i believe most of ex-slayers players except mma, alicia, ryung and crank will joing skt1

ryung and crank have both joined axiom (totalbiscuit's team) and mma is deciding between axiom and eg atm
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
November 11 2012 16:59 GMT
#40
damn congrats Dark! I've met him on ladder and he's so nice and humble. Joined the Slayers clan first and then promoted to the team. Now moving on to SK T1! :D
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farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
November 11 2012 17:04 GMT
#41
On November 12 2012 01:47 Ettick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 22:05 farnham wrote:
makes sense...

i believe most of ex-slayers players except mma, alicia, ryung and crank will joing skt1

ryung and crank have both joined axiom (totalbiscuit's team) and mma is deciding between axiom and eg atm

I know... Just saying that those four will probably not join a korean team anytime soon
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
November 11 2012 17:08 GMT
#42
On November 12 2012 02:04 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 01:47 Ettick wrote:
On November 11 2012 22:05 farnham wrote:
makes sense...

i believe most of ex-slayers players except mma, alicia, ryung and crank will joing skt1

ryung and crank have both joined axiom (totalbiscuit's team) and mma is deciding between axiom and eg atm

I know... Just saying that those four will probably not join a korean team anytime soon

Oh, sorry. I misread your post lol
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
November 11 2012 17:17 GMT
#43
On November 11 2012 23:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
Final and unquestionable evidence that SKT1 is in fact the Dark side

KT should buy YoDa from IM. They already have wookie
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
November 11 2012 17:40 GMT
#44
I'm glad Dark found a team, has a lot of potential!
"Want some? Go get some!"
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
November 11 2012 18:13 GMT
#45
Seeing as how SKT T1 Head Coach BoxeR was at the final GSTL match of SlayerS, I knew this would happen.

Congrats to Dark!
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RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
November 11 2012 18:31 GMT
#46
Congratulations Dark and SKT! Dark's been good when I've seen him and now being under BoxeR and the SKT banner, I'm sure he'll develop into an even better player.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
November 11 2012 19:41 GMT
#47
hope Dark can prove he deserves Boxer's vote of confidence... out of everyone in slayers, it should be an honor he got picked up by him first.
-TGO-
Profile Joined October 2012
United States156 Posts
November 11 2012 19:44 GMT
#48
YAY

SKT1Dark fighting!
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Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
November 11 2012 19:46 GMT
#49
Stealing my "what if i become a programer, i would go for "Dark" nick", damn you Dark, damn you !
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18509 Posts
November 11 2012 19:49 GMT
#50
On November 11 2012 22:15 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 21:56 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On November 11 2012 21:55 Mandalor wrote:
So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa?


SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player.


I guess I'm being paranoid about this, but if the agreement works this way, KeSPA teams could easily just buy ESF teams and make them "disband" to get their players.


of course they could but they'd just lose fans
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
November 11 2012 20:19 GMT
#51
On November 11 2012 21:56 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 21:55 Mandalor wrote:
So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa?


SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player.

Still.. For bw you needed to get a license to play on a team and one of the only ways to get that was courage.. Great to see Kespa picking up new players without all the bureaucracy.
Jaedong.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
November 11 2012 20:20 GMT
#52
Waiting for Light vs Dark matchup.
Teodice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden641 Posts
November 11 2012 20:24 GMT
#53
Glad to see a Slayers player finding a new home! He will be in the top very soon!
You will still be here tomorrow, but your dreams may not
NotoriousBig
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Germany301 Posts
November 11 2012 21:03 GMT
#54
cool, that Kespa is picking up some Slayers players, love it!!!
So thsi means that kespa takes the ESF players very serious.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 11 2012 21:05 GMT
#55
On November 12 2012 05:19 Kal_rA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 21:56 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On November 11 2012 21:55 Mandalor wrote:
So KeSPA can sign eSF players now and vice versa?


SlayerS was never part of the ESF. And even if it was, since SlayerS is no more, Dark wouldtn´t have been an ESF player.

Still.. For bw you needed to get a license to play on a team and one of the only ways to get that was courage.. Great to see Kespa picking up new players without all the bureaucracy.


i think the concept of the license and courage is pretty much dead at this point.
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