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SeleCT retires from Starcraft II - Page 12

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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
October 24 2012 15:01 GMT
#221
That was expected. Starcraft is way too competitive for the average foreigner to ever achieve something remotely significant. Dota is better suited to him, so good move.
o choro é livre
NotoriousBig
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Germany301 Posts
October 24 2012 15:02 GMT
#222
Wow, seems that Dota 2 gets a nice new player, i am curios when he will betoplevel there after only joining Dota2 right now.

Sad that i don´t like Dota, but for select it has been the right decision, he wasn´t very good recentlly in Sc2.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
October 24 2012 15:03 GMT
#223
On October 24 2012 23:24 Gentso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 23:19 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote:
Made the right choice to switch to dota 2. Good stuff and good luck... stay away from the dying sc2


SC2's viewership to me looks like it's been the same as it's always been. Big tournies get anywhere from 20-100k, and streamers get anywhere from 1-10k. Just because League has much more doesn't mean SC2 has to as well. SC2 is too complex for today's casuals to learn. Sadly, games with complexity and depth like SC2 are becoming a niche as easy games like League and Call of Duty become more popular. That's why SC2 has become about as big as it's gonna get and it'll probably stay that way, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.


What's so complex and deep about deathballs mowing each other down? People are quitting SC2 because it lacks complexity and depth, and most of all, it isn't fun. Also, fun doesn't mean easy, look at Brood War, it was one of the most fun games ever, need I say more?
Zyufin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States85 Posts
October 24 2012 15:04 GMT
#224
Best of luck, Select! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :D <3
trech
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil101 Posts
October 24 2012 15:05 GMT
#225
sc2 is not the same...
:)
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
October 24 2012 15:05 GMT
#226
I'm gonna miss watching your games SeleCT. Good luck in DotA, and thanks for not switching to LoL at least
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
HGurryp
Profile Joined July 2011
275 Posts
October 24 2012 15:06 GMT
#227
Good Luck Select ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Sup SON
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
October 24 2012 15:07 GMT
#228
Bye SeleCT, you were always one of my favorites. I will watch you in dota 2!
White-Ra fighting!
asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
October 24 2012 15:07 GMT
#229
Yay SeleCT in D2!!

Anyone know if this means he's forfeiting his NASL results? He's doing so well in his group...
Galatians 2:20
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
October 24 2012 15:07 GMT
#230
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ C'est la vie. Good luck Select!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Valadash
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada31 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 15:09:07
October 24 2012 15:07 GMT
#231
GL Select huge fan Will follow you in DOTA 2

Tick Tock Blizzard, Tick Tock.
BoB_KiLLeR
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain620 Posts
October 24 2012 15:08 GMT
#232
So sad... :-/
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
October 24 2012 15:08 GMT
#233
On October 25 2012 00:03 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 23:24 Gentso wrote:
On October 24 2012 23:19 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote:
Made the right choice to switch to dota 2. Good stuff and good luck... stay away from the dying sc2


SC2's viewership to me looks like it's been the same as it's always been. Big tournies get anywhere from 20-100k, and streamers get anywhere from 1-10k. Just because League has much more doesn't mean SC2 has to as well. SC2 is too complex for today's casuals to learn. Sadly, games with complexity and depth like SC2 are becoming a niche as easy games like League and Call of Duty become more popular. That's why SC2 has become about as big as it's gonna get and it'll probably stay that way, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.


What's so complex and deep about deathballs mowing each other down? People are quitting SC2 because it lacks complexity and depth, and most of all, it isn't fun. Also, fun doesn't mean easy, look at Brood War, it was one of the most fun games ever, need I say more?

With the exception of a few Koreans, most of the players that are quitting are doing to because they are at best average and usually mediocre at the game.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
October 24 2012 15:09 GMT
#234
moving to dota 2, nice. hope he does well.
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
October 24 2012 15:09 GMT
#235
Are you sure you didn't retire because of that twitter dispute with IdrA?
... In all seriousness though, a second place and a third place at MLG along with a first place at NA Battle.net Invitational 2011 and several trillion online cup wins is nothing to be ashamed of. Best of luck with DotA2!
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
October 24 2012 15:10 GMT
#236
On October 25 2012 00:01 Al Bundy wrote:
That was expected. Starcraft is way too competitive for the average foreigner to ever achieve something remotely significant. Dota is better suited to him, so good move.


Good news! Korea is dominating LoL, China is dominating Dota . SelecT should have no problems


OT: Welcome back SelecT, and GL HF
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
October 24 2012 15:10 GMT
#237
Hope to see you in the next International, SeleCT! gg wp
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 24 2012 15:11 GMT
#238
On October 24 2012 23:56 Roachu wrote:
I always liked SeleCT as a player but that statement gave me a quitter-vibe. Sure he admits he cannot compete with the top koreans but first he talks about getting too old for RTS games and then starting pro-Dota, I don't like it. How is Dota gonna be any different if he already said the practice regime was the problem?

Sour taste aside, GL with whatever you decide to do. Finishing college sounds smart to me.


Dota 2 is way less mechanically/multitasking oriented.. You got a quitter-vibe because he is fact, quitting the game of sc2.
TL+ Member
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
October 24 2012 15:11 GMT
#239
Shit, he has always been one of my top ten favourite players by far. I will miss him
Andypk
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland512 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 15:13:04
October 24 2012 15:12 GMT
#240
Gonna miss SeleCT in the SC2 scene

Gonna keep following him in Dota though for sure :D
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