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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
October 24 2012 05:46 GMT
#2021
On October 24 2012 14:40 Waxangel wrote:
Over 100 pages! high five o/


It's only 100 pages cause all the threads have been split up. It should be over 300 pages if you include everything.
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 05:47:46
October 24 2012 05:47 GMT
#2022
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11zew4/mma_had_personal_sponsorship_offers_oh_jessica/c6qx5wj

This makes things confusing, Chris basically just denied Jessica didn't know about it. Razer Korea lying?
Xiaopewpew
Profile Joined October 2012
China57 Posts
October 24 2012 05:48 GMT
#2023
On October 24 2012 14:46 m4inbrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:44 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:42 mongmong wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:37 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:34 mongmong wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:30 JAWS_ wrote:
Chris Mitchell said he dealed with Jessica directly, this is just her lying again and twisting the truth.

Also Jessica can understand English even though she can't speak much, don't you guys try to think she was indeed clueless



Oh

yeah !!

So Razer Korea mustve been lying too!

because theyre the ones saying that

manager J rejected it not jessica right?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Calm your tits, he is just giving a opinion and it makes sense, unless Chris worded it wrongly, which I think he did. He did say he did it through a translator (which may be manager J)




Yep. Rejected cuz manager j had an ill intent according to Razer Korea.

which makes Jaws' speculation look pretty stupid.

Yeah.... I think it meshes though. Manager J works as the translator, so chris said he talk to jessica but he may have send it to J's email or talk with J who then translates the stuff to Jessica and could have hidden the words.
Many possibilities


No, not so many.

Show nested quote +
To clarify: The proposal was rejected. but i dont know how it's been translated by "Manager J". Both were copied.


It's actually pretty clear. I just don't really understand "both were copied", does that mean they did not even talk, but just had a written proposal (i don't know how that works in the industry, so im asking)?


I honestly thought It meant both the sentences were copied from Christ's twitter. Until I saw the caps.
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JAWS_
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil61 Posts
October 24 2012 05:49 GMT
#2024
People loves to bash others a lot in here when am I'm doing is not jumping into conclusions cause JESSICA posted that Razer Korea stated that this never get to her.

How can they know that this never get to her? The fact that she didn't answer doesn't mean she wasn't aware of it.

And Chris just confirmed he sent the mail to both parties, so what are you guys going to say now? J hacked jessica mail and deleted?
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 24 2012 05:50 GMT
#2025
On October 24 2012 14:47 ImNightmare wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11zew4/mma_had_personal_sponsorship_offers_oh_jessica/c6qx5wj

This makes things confusing, Chris basically just denied Jessica didn't know about it. Razer Korea lying?


Tbh Chris is just making things worse by not being more clear with his posts, yeesh
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m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
October 24 2012 05:52 GMT
#2026
On October 24 2012 14:49 JAWS_ wrote:
People loves to bash others a lot in here when am I'm doing is not jumping into conclusions cause JESSICA posted that Razer Korea stated that this never get to her.


..?

Razer|MidNight ‏@Razer_MidNight
@SlayerS_Jessica Razer 와 SlayerS 는 매우 좋은 스폰서쉽 관계를 유지해 왔으며 스폰서의 입장에서도 지원한 부분 이상의 결과를 가져온 이스포츠 스폰서쉽의 모범이 되는 관계임을 밝히는 바입니다.


It's not Jessica saying that Razer Korea is stating something. Its Razer Korea themselves that posted this. Not Jessica.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 24 2012 05:53 GMT
#2027
On October 24 2012 14:50 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:47 ImNightmare wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11zew4/mma_had_personal_sponsorship_offers_oh_jessica/c6qx5wj

This makes things confusing, Chris basically just denied Jessica didn't know about it. Razer Korea lying?


Tbh Chris is just making things worse by not being more clear with his posts, yeesh

well, its not his fault. People put out his words before they are even completed.

Seems like Razer korea is on Jessica's side while Chris and his company is on MMA's side.
GungraveHero2
Profile Joined October 2011
57 Posts
October 24 2012 05:53 GMT
#2028
so this prove that jessica did nothing wrong , she was working hard for the team and people should blame mma , crank ect for what have happen ?

you can pretty much figure that easy
Xiaopewpew
Profile Joined October 2012
China57 Posts
October 24 2012 05:55 GMT
#2029
On October 24 2012 14:49 JAWS_ wrote:
People loves to bash others a lot in here when am I'm doing is not jumping into conclusions cause JESSICA posted that Razer Korea stated that this never get to her.

How can they know that this never get to her? The fact that she didn't answer doesn't mean she wasn't aware of it.

And Chris just confirmed he sent the mail to both parties, so what are you guys going to say now? J hacked jessica mail and deleted?


Did it occur to you that "this" might not refer to the emails or proposals?

It might just refer to the true intention of Razor's proposal was lost in the midst of J's meddling. You are right, Razor Korea certainly cannot know if the proposal really reached Jessica. But, my roommate is currently Korean and doing all the translation for me. So ......

If you have watched Jessica's interviews , she is certainly not good in English. Hence it is reasonable if she did not even bother to read it and just trusted J's account. That is what a translator is for at the first place.

But if the contract/proposal was in Korean, this would be another story :D
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 24 2012 05:57 GMT
#2030
new report: Razor korea's tweet has been deleted, so it does appears they prefer siding Jessica then MMA.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 24 2012 05:58 GMT
#2031
On October 24 2012 14:53 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 14:50 lichter wrote:
On October 24 2012 14:47 ImNightmare wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/11zew4/mma_had_personal_sponsorship_offers_oh_jessica/c6qx5wj

This makes things confusing, Chris basically just denied Jessica didn't know about it. Razer Korea lying?


Tbh Chris is just making things worse by not being more clear with his posts, yeesh

well, its not his fault. People put out his words before they are even completed.

Seems like Razer korea is on Jessica's side while Chris and his company is on MMA's side.


Twitter is an idiotic place to release information, seriously

Should have just written something and posted it, in one go explaining everything he knows, on reddit or some other message board

I dread the day social media becomes a standard method of communicating for business
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Xiaopewpew
Profile Joined October 2012
China57 Posts
October 24 2012 05:58 GMT
#2032
On October 24 2012 14:53 GungraveHero2 wrote:
so this prove that jessica did nothing wrong , she was working hard for the team and people should blame mma , crank ect for what have happen ?

you can pretty much figure that easy


Nope it does not. But it certainly does not prove Jessica is responsible for the sponsorship embezzlement/or whatever you call it thing. Nobody is pointing fingers at MMA and Crank in the current context of discussion. Peace and chill.
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 24 2012 05:58 GMT
#2033
Whatever happened to private emails ......?
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 06:00:46
October 24 2012 06:00 GMT
#2034


Chris Mitchell
‏@MitchellChris
Can we stop the drama now. Ultimately we'll never know what has been translated properly. End this chapter (Slayers) here and now.


Wow. He creates a shitstorm with "Jessica directly refused it", then he said "well we never know what she actually received, so meh".

That's classy.
Boiler Bandsman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States391 Posts
October 24 2012 06:00 GMT
#2035
Beware taking Razer Korea's corporate statement at face value. They have reason to curry favor with Jessica and, indirectly, Boxer, and even more indirectly his fans. At the very least, they don't want to be seen as openly hostile towards those two. Taking MMA's side would be taking a stand that could go wrong, while half-endorsing Jessica gives them a path forward regardless of how this ends up. Business is cutthroat, and I can absolutely see them lying to hedge their bets, and throwing J and Chris under the bus to do it.
A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 24 2012 06:01 GMT
#2036
On October 24 2012 15:00 Boiler Bandsman wrote:
Beware taking Razer Korea's corporate statement at face value. They have reason to curry favor with Jessica and, indirectly, Boxer, and even more indirectly his fans. At the very least, they don't want to be seen as openly hostile towards those two. Taking MMA's side would be taking a stand that could go wrong, while half-endorsing Jessica gives them a path forward regardless of how this ends up. Business is cutthroat, and I can absolutely see them lying to hedge their bets, and throwing J and Chris under the bus to do it.

Kind of sad though, Razer motto is for gamers. But it isn't used here.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 06:03:05
October 24 2012 06:01 GMT
#2037
On October 24 2012 15:00 Boiler Bandsman wrote:
Beware taking Razer Korea's corporate statement at face value. They have reason to curry favor with Jessica and, indirectly, Boxer, and even more indirectly his fans. At the very least, they don't want to be seen as openly hostile towards those two. Taking MMA's side would be taking a stand that could go wrong, while half-endorsing Jessica gives them a path forward regardless of how this ends up. Business is cutthroat, and I can absolutely see them lying to hedge their bets, and throwing J and Chris under the bus to do it.


Yep, thats actually way more logical than Manager J being a shady crook. Come on.

Edit:

hope he loss his job


/facepalm
GungraveHero2
Profile Joined October 2011
57 Posts
October 24 2012 06:02 GMT
#2038
this chris guy realy act not professional , why he did that in the first place ?

hope he loss his job
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 24 2012 06:03 GMT
#2039
On October 24 2012 15:02 GungraveHero2 wrote:
this chris guy realy act not professional , why he did that in the first place ?

hope he loss his job

He is sticking up for a player who is being wrongly accused and blasted from top to bottom in korea. That's called unprofessional? Get out of here
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 06:04:24
October 24 2012 06:03 GMT
#2040
On October 24 2012 15:02 GungraveHero2 wrote:
this chris guy realy act not professional , why he did that in the first place ?

hope he loss his job


I can't imagine why you side with Jessica when you seem to have a fetish for destroying people's careers.

People like you are cancer in this community.

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