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On October 18 2012 03:04 Tachion wrote:Hopefully it's nothing too controversial. I like the IM coach, and the players seem to have a lot of respect for him, he gets mentioned in like every interview from an IM player. What's the gist of his opinion? I can't open the link cuz of school blocking.
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Man when you see everything from Jessica's perspective... :[[
Sad sad day.
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On October 18 2012 02:38 floor exercise wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 02:30 Ventris wrote:On October 18 2012 02:27 AbideWithMe wrote: I think it is a really shady move to keep an "incident with Alicia" secret as it puts him in an uncomfortable position where he can not even comment on it. If it really ends in the court its alright though. They won't sue him because he left the door open or was unfriendly. Jessica would probably sue anyone for anything
Listen: If there is a contract that is being broken, sueing is the right legal way to go about it.
Why didn't the players just talk openly about their problems? Instead they seem to be agitated by outsiders and believe them, without listening to the other side. Furthermore you wonder: Why should someone that puts money into the team want to destroy it's players?
Perhaps the main problem is, Koreans can deal with a woman being the boss?
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First this is a sad day indeed. Most people have thought there was a chance of this happening but like most I hoped it wouldn't. I hope some of the other teams will start to pick up a lot of their players soon. We are just now seeing a good chuck of the former oGs roaster get picked up months after they disbanded. So who knows how long it will take.
Thanks for everyone taking the time to translate throughout this thread!
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Real bad english, hard to read. But sad news but expected. I didnt know that esports federations was such shit. I feel for Jessica. Sounds like alot of people shat on her.
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On October 18 2012 03:05 testthewest wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 02:38 floor exercise wrote:On October 18 2012 02:30 Ventris wrote:On October 18 2012 02:27 AbideWithMe wrote: I think it is a really shady move to keep an "incident with Alicia" secret as it puts him in an uncomfortable position where he can not even comment on it. If it really ends in the court its alright though. They won't sue him because he left the door open or was unfriendly. Jessica would probably sue anyone for anything Listen: If there is a contract that is being broken, sueing is the right legal way to go about it. Why didn't the players just talk openly about their problems? Instead they seem to be agitated by outsiders and believe them, without listening to the other side. Furthermore you wonder: Why should someone that puts money into the team want to destroy it's players? Perhaps the main problem is, Koreans can deal with a woman being the boss?
This.
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On October 18 2012 03:05 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:04 Tachion wrote:Hopefully it's nothing too controversial. I like the IM coach, and the players seem to have a lot of respect for him, he gets mentioned in like every interview from an IM player. What's the gist of his opinion? I can't open the link cuz of school blocking.
pretty much it's him covering his own ass ("i didnt mean to make slayers into outlaws") while saying his feelings were hurt when ganzi 'backstabbed' him to try to go to slayers
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On October 18 2012 03:05 testthewest wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 02:38 floor exercise wrote:On October 18 2012 02:30 Ventris wrote:On October 18 2012 02:27 AbideWithMe wrote: I think it is a really shady move to keep an "incident with Alicia" secret as it puts him in an uncomfortable position where he can not even comment on it. If it really ends in the court its alright though. They won't sue him because he left the door open or was unfriendly. Jessica would probably sue anyone for anything Listen: If there is a contract that is being broken, sueing is the right legal way to go about it. Why didn't the players just talk openly about their problems? Instead they seem to be agitated by outsiders and believe them, without listening to the other side. Furthermore you wonder: Why should someone that puts money into the team want to destroy it's players? Perhaps the main problem is, Koreans can deal with a woman being the boss? We'll find out after the Korean presidential elections.
Park Geun Hye may become the first woman president in Korea if she is elected this December.
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On October 18 2012 03:06 Mambo wrote: Real bad english, hard to read. But sad news but expected. I didnt know that esports federations was such shit. Read the other translation. It's more readable. Also, Jessica is referring mostly to the old SC2con that never worked out.
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The entire Korean scene seems so distrustful of everyone, even with members of their own team. It's really sad to see a great team like SlayerS get torn apart by what seems to be caused by a lack of communication :/
RIP SlayerS, you were always my favorite team T_T
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On October 18 2012 03:06 stew_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:05 Whatson wrote:On October 18 2012 03:04 Tachion wrote:Hopefully it's nothing too controversial. I like the IM coach, and the players seem to have a lot of respect for him, he gets mentioned in like every interview from an IM player. What's the gist of his opinion? I can't open the link cuz of school blocking. pretty much it's him covering his own ass ("i didnt mean to make slayers into outlaws") while saying his feelings were hurt when ganzi 'backstabbed' him to try to go to slayers Korean netizens are commenting on this issue. All the replies are "stfu about GanZi. We don't care. Explain the whole outcasting SlayerS thing you prick." I'm like O_o;; netizens are scary...
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On October 18 2012 03:05 testthewest wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 02:38 floor exercise wrote:On October 18 2012 02:30 Ventris wrote:On October 18 2012 02:27 AbideWithMe wrote: I think it is a really shady move to keep an "incident with Alicia" secret as it puts him in an uncomfortable position where he can not even comment on it. If it really ends in the court its alright though. They won't sue him because he left the door open or was unfriendly. Jessica would probably sue anyone for anything Listen: If there is a contract that is being broken, sueing is the right legal way to go about it. Why didn't the players just talk openly about their problems? Instead they seem to be agitated by outsiders and believe them, without listening to the other side. Furthermore you wonder: Why should someone that puts money into the team want to destroy it's players? Perhaps the main problem is, Koreans can deal with a woman being the boss? The next president is probably going to be female... So
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Regarding the former oGs player that affirmed the suspicions Jessica had regarding Head Coach Won, all signs point to ForGG.
ForGG = For Good Game
ForGG is the hero that eSports deserves.
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On October 18 2012 03:04 Tachion wrote:Hopefully it's nothing too controversial. I like the IM coach, and the players seem to have a lot of respect for him, he gets mentioned in like every interview from an IM player. Basically hes saying he did nothing wrong and is blaming almost everything on Ganzi. Also almost all korean netizens are callng bullshit on his excuse.
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Looks like Manager J screwed up everything
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On October 18 2012 03:05 testthewest wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 02:38 floor exercise wrote:On October 18 2012 02:30 Ventris wrote:On October 18 2012 02:27 AbideWithMe wrote: I think it is a really shady move to keep an "incident with Alicia" secret as it puts him in an uncomfortable position where he can not even comment on it. If it really ends in the court its alright though. They won't sue him because he left the door open or was unfriendly. Jessica would probably sue anyone for anything Listen: If there is a contract that is being broken, sueing is the right legal way to go about it.
Exactly. And from the wording of the translation it feels like the Alicia thing is something way severe than some small contract detail. "Career ruining and illegal" reminds me of Ma Jae Yoon. Let's hope it's not that serious.
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On October 18 2012 03:08 SeeKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:06 stew_ wrote:On October 18 2012 03:05 Whatson wrote:On October 18 2012 03:04 Tachion wrote:Hopefully it's nothing too controversial. I like the IM coach, and the players seem to have a lot of respect for him, he gets mentioned in like every interview from an IM player. What's the gist of his opinion? I can't open the link cuz of school blocking. pretty much it's him covering his own ass ("i didnt mean to make slayers into outlaws") while saying his feelings were hurt when ganzi 'backstabbed' him to try to go to slayers Korean netizens are commenting on this issue. All the replies are "stfu about GanZi. We don't care. Explain the whole outcasting SlayerS thing you prick." I'm like O_o;; netizens are scary...
Yeah, Korean netizens are vicious vicious people sometimes. >_<
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On October 18 2012 03:08 SeeKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 03:06 stew_ wrote:On October 18 2012 03:05 Whatson wrote:On October 18 2012 03:04 Tachion wrote:Hopefully it's nothing too controversial. I like the IM coach, and the players seem to have a lot of respect for him, he gets mentioned in like every interview from an IM player. What's the gist of his opinion? I can't open the link cuz of school blocking. pretty much it's him covering his own ass ("i didnt mean to make slayers into outlaws") while saying his feelings were hurt when ganzi 'backstabbed' him to try to go to slayers Korean netizens are commenting on this issue. All the replies are "stfu about GanZi. We don't care. Explain the whole outcasting SlayerS thing you prick." I'm like O_o;; netizens are scary...
Wow, and I felt a little guilty about being intense in this thread. LOL!
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I think Jessica is truthful in her comments. This very much feels like someone who has been disregarded and lied to left and right, and who was never able to share her thoughts about all this. Doesn't mean that all of it is exactly right, but it does feel like this is exactly what she experienced through her relations with others. I think she feels powerless while trying hard to make things right for everyone.
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