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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
October 17 2012 18:05 GMT
#1221
On October 18 2012 03:04 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 02:59 farnham wrote:
So LGIM Hirai just posted his view on the ganzi incident

http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48786

Hopefully it's nothing too controversial. I like the IM coach, and the players seem to have a lot of respect for him, he gets mentioned in like every interview from an IM player.

What's the gist of his opinion? I can't open the link cuz of school blocking.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 17 2012 18:05 GMT
#1222
Man when you see everything from Jessica's perspective... :[[

Sad sad day.
testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
October 17 2012 18:05 GMT
#1223
On October 18 2012 02:38 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 02:30 Ventris wrote:
On October 18 2012 02:27 AbideWithMe wrote:
I think it is a really shady move to keep an "incident with Alicia" secret as it puts him in an uncomfortable position where he can not even comment on it.

If it really ends in the court its alright though. They won't sue him because he left the door open or was unfriendly.

Jessica would probably sue anyone for anything


Listen: If there is a contract that is being broken, sueing is the right legal way to go about it.

Why didn't the players just talk openly about their problems? Instead they seem to be agitated by outsiders and believe them, without listening to the other side.
Furthermore you wonder: Why should someone that puts money into the team want to destroy it's players?

Perhaps the main problem is, Koreans can deal with a woman being the boss?
War is not about who is right, but who is left.
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
October 17 2012 18:05 GMT
#1224
First this is a sad day indeed. Most people have thought there was a chance of this happening but like most I hoped it wouldn't. I hope some of the other teams will start to pick up a lot of their players soon. We are just now seeing a good chuck of the former oGs roaster get picked up months after they disbanded. So who knows how long it will take.

Thanks for everyone taking the time to translate throughout this thread!
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Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 18:08:14
October 17 2012 18:06 GMT
#1225
Real bad english, hard to read. But sad news but expected. I didnt know that esports federations was such shit. I feel for Jessica. Sounds like alot of people shat on her.
Boxer | MVP | Taeja | TLO | Grubby | Bunny (danish)
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 17 2012 18:06 GMT
#1226
On October 18 2012 03:05 testthewest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 02:38 floor exercise wrote:
On October 18 2012 02:30 Ventris wrote:
On October 18 2012 02:27 AbideWithMe wrote:
I think it is a really shady move to keep an "incident with Alicia" secret as it puts him in an uncomfortable position where he can not even comment on it.

If it really ends in the court its alright though. They won't sue him because he left the door open or was unfriendly.

Jessica would probably sue anyone for anything


Listen: If there is a contract that is being broken, sueing is the right legal way to go about it.

Why didn't the players just talk openly about their problems? Instead they seem to be agitated by outsiders and believe them, without listening to the other side.
Furthermore you wonder: Why should someone that puts money into the team want to destroy it's players?

Perhaps the main problem is, Koreans can deal with a woman being the boss?


This.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
stew_
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada239 Posts
October 17 2012 18:06 GMT
#1227
On October 18 2012 03:05 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 03:04 Tachion wrote:
On October 18 2012 02:59 farnham wrote:
So LGIM Hirai just posted his view on the ganzi incident

http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48786

Hopefully it's nothing too controversial. I like the IM coach, and the players seem to have a lot of respect for him, he gets mentioned in like every interview from an IM player.

What's the gist of his opinion? I can't open the link cuz of school blocking.



pretty much it's him covering his own ass ("i didnt mean to make slayers into outlaws") while saying his feelings were hurt when ganzi 'backstabbed' him to try to go to slayers
자연속에 내가 있다! 운!지!
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 18:07:37
October 17 2012 18:07 GMT
#1228
On October 18 2012 03:05 testthewest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 02:38 floor exercise wrote:
On October 18 2012 02:30 Ventris wrote:
On October 18 2012 02:27 AbideWithMe wrote:
I think it is a really shady move to keep an "incident with Alicia" secret as it puts him in an uncomfortable position where he can not even comment on it.

If it really ends in the court its alright though. They won't sue him because he left the door open or was unfriendly.

Jessica would probably sue anyone for anything


Listen: If there is a contract that is being broken, sueing is the right legal way to go about it.

Why didn't the players just talk openly about their problems? Instead they seem to be agitated by outsiders and believe them, without listening to the other side.
Furthermore you wonder: Why should someone that puts money into the team want to destroy it's players?

Perhaps the main problem is, Koreans can deal with a woman being the boss?

We'll find out after the Korean presidential elections.

Park Geun Hye may become the first woman president in Korea if she is elected this December.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
October 17 2012 18:07 GMT
#1229
On October 18 2012 03:06 Mambo wrote:
Real bad english, hard to read. But sad news but expected. I didnt know that esports federations was such shit.

Read the other translation. It's more readable. Also, Jessica is referring mostly to the old SC2con that never worked out.
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
October 17 2012 18:07 GMT
#1230
So... Jessica responded to hirai by showing a recent chat she had with ganzi..
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4190738
Ganzi says he never defamed IM and he only said that he doesnt recommend joining them (back in the days IM was in bad shape)
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
October 17 2012 18:08 GMT
#1231
The entire Korean scene seems so distrustful of everyone, even with members of their own team. It's really sad to see a great team like SlayerS get torn apart by what seems to be caused by a lack of communication :/

RIP SlayerS, you were always my favorite team T_T
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
October 17 2012 18:08 GMT
#1232
On October 18 2012 03:06 stew_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 03:05 Whatson wrote:
On October 18 2012 03:04 Tachion wrote:
On October 18 2012 02:59 farnham wrote:
So LGIM Hirai just posted his view on the ganzi incident

http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48786

Hopefully it's nothing too controversial. I like the IM coach, and the players seem to have a lot of respect for him, he gets mentioned in like every interview from an IM player.

What's the gist of his opinion? I can't open the link cuz of school blocking.



pretty much it's him covering his own ass ("i didnt mean to make slayers into outlaws") while saying his feelings were hurt when ganzi 'backstabbed' him to try to go to slayers

Korean netizens are commenting on this issue. All the replies are "stfu about GanZi. We don't care. Explain the whole outcasting SlayerS thing you prick." I'm like O_o;; netizens are scary...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
October 17 2012 18:08 GMT
#1233
On October 18 2012 03:05 testthewest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 02:38 floor exercise wrote:
On October 18 2012 02:30 Ventris wrote:
On October 18 2012 02:27 AbideWithMe wrote:
I think it is a really shady move to keep an "incident with Alicia" secret as it puts him in an uncomfortable position where he can not even comment on it.

If it really ends in the court its alright though. They won't sue him because he left the door open or was unfriendly.

Jessica would probably sue anyone for anything


Listen: If there is a contract that is being broken, sueing is the right legal way to go about it.

Why didn't the players just talk openly about their problems? Instead they seem to be agitated by outsiders and believe them, without listening to the other side.
Furthermore you wonder: Why should someone that puts money into the team want to destroy it's players?

Perhaps the main problem is, Koreans can deal with a woman being the boss?

The next president is probably going to be female... So
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
October 17 2012 18:08 GMT
#1234
Regarding the former oGs player that affirmed the suspicions Jessica had regarding Head Coach Won, all signs point to ForGG.

ForGG = For Good Game

ForGG is the hero that eSports deserves.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
October 17 2012 18:09 GMT
#1235
On October 18 2012 03:04 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 02:59 farnham wrote:
So LGIM Hirai just posted his view on the ganzi incident

http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48786

Hopefully it's nothing too controversial. I like the IM coach, and the players seem to have a lot of respect for him, he gets mentioned in like every interview from an IM player.

Basically hes saying he did nothing wrong and is blaming almost everything on Ganzi. Also almost all korean netizens are callng bullshit on his excuse.
GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
October 17 2012 18:09 GMT
#1236
Looks like Manager J screwed up everything
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
October 17 2012 18:09 GMT
#1237
On October 18 2012 03:05 testthewest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 02:38 floor exercise wrote:
On October 18 2012 02:30 Ventris wrote:
On October 18 2012 02:27 AbideWithMe wrote:
I think it is a really shady move to keep an "incident with Alicia" secret as it puts him in an uncomfortable position where he can not even comment on it.

If it really ends in the court its alright though. They won't sue him because he left the door open or was unfriendly.

Jessica would probably sue anyone for anything


Listen: If there is a contract that is being broken, sueing is the right legal way to go about it.


Exactly. And from the wording of the translation it feels like the Alicia thing is something way severe than some small contract detail.
"Career ruining and illegal" reminds me of Ma Jae Yoon. Let's hope it's not that serious.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 17 2012 18:09 GMT
#1238
On October 18 2012 03:08 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 03:06 stew_ wrote:
On October 18 2012 03:05 Whatson wrote:
On October 18 2012 03:04 Tachion wrote:
On October 18 2012 02:59 farnham wrote:
So LGIM Hirai just posted his view on the ganzi incident

http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48786

Hopefully it's nothing too controversial. I like the IM coach, and the players seem to have a lot of respect for him, he gets mentioned in like every interview from an IM player.

What's the gist of his opinion? I can't open the link cuz of school blocking.



pretty much it's him covering his own ass ("i didnt mean to make slayers into outlaws") while saying his feelings were hurt when ganzi 'backstabbed' him to try to go to slayers

Korean netizens are commenting on this issue. All the replies are "stfu about GanZi. We don't care. Explain the whole outcasting SlayerS thing you prick." I'm like O_o;; netizens are scary...


Yeah, Korean netizens are vicious vicious people sometimes. >_<
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 17 2012 18:10 GMT
#1239
On October 18 2012 03:08 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2012 03:06 stew_ wrote:
On October 18 2012 03:05 Whatson wrote:
On October 18 2012 03:04 Tachion wrote:
On October 18 2012 02:59 farnham wrote:
So LGIM Hirai just posted his view on the ganzi incident

http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48786

Hopefully it's nothing too controversial. I like the IM coach, and the players seem to have a lot of respect for him, he gets mentioned in like every interview from an IM player.

What's the gist of his opinion? I can't open the link cuz of school blocking.



pretty much it's him covering his own ass ("i didnt mean to make slayers into outlaws") while saying his feelings were hurt when ganzi 'backstabbed' him to try to go to slayers

Korean netizens are commenting on this issue. All the replies are "stfu about GanZi. We don't care. Explain the whole outcasting SlayerS thing you prick." I'm like O_o;; netizens are scary...


Wow, and I felt a little guilty about being intense in this thread. LOL!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
sunwentai
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada8 Posts
October 17 2012 18:10 GMT
#1240
I think Jessica is truthful in her comments. This very much feels like someone who has been disregarded and lied to left and right, and who was never able to share her thoughts about all this. Doesn't mean that all of it is exactly right, but it does feel like this is exactly what she experienced through her relations with others. I think she feels powerless while trying hard to make things right for everyone.
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