EPTOn October 15 2012 13:51 Azzur wrote:
17. Wins when expected to, wins when expected not to
17. Wins when expected to, wins when expected not to
18. Open mouth style.
13 feats of Mvp ranked - Page 5
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
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rift
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On October 15 2012 15:07 rift wrote: I don't really consider the WC an equal title, it was mostly a foreigner bash. The Code S titles are really impressive, however. Mvp actually only played Korean players and HuK ( who would end up being Code S for about 7 months in a row later in the year ) so his road was the toughest by far, but yes it had a weaker field. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On October 15 2012 15:52 Dodgin wrote: Mvp actually only played Korean players and HuK ( who would end up being Code S for about 7 months in a row later in the year ) so his road was the toughest by far, but yes it had a weaker field. while the field was weaker, it was a more difficult path than what Nestea had in his one run in Code S. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
On October 15 2012 13:51 Azzur wrote: 17. Wins when expected to, wins when expected not to Tbh if you don't expect Mvp to win, you don't know much about StarCraft II! | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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Arachne
South Africa426 Posts
Nestea was the 1st to achieve and actually win back to back GSL titles, before 2011 Blizzcon.. In May and July. He also achieved it without dropping a map in an entire season. Also, on what basis are you calling Nestea SC2's second greatest name? You don't explain how you arrived at that. If anything, I would say MC is the seconds greatest, if not the greatest player (although one could argue that MvP will surpass him in earnings if he wins this season) http://sc2earnings.com/ You list his MLG win as a massive feat, and then within the same paragraph, imply that this feat shouldn't be there. What is the "Gainward tournament"? Is the G not supposed to be capitalized, or is the T supposed to be capitalized? Good luck for future articles, work on the aspect that the reader doesn't quite know 100% what you are talking about, and remember to check spelling and grammar. Editors only can do so much. Also, 13 is an odd number to use, you maybe should have cut it down to 10, left out MLG, or combined it with IEM, used the semi-finals in the same point as 2 paragraphs, and tried to keep each point at about the same length, probably 2 paragraphs. | ||
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S:klogW
Austria657 Posts
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Enearde
France265 Posts
On October 15 2012 16:58 Arachne wrote: Also, on what basis are you calling Nestea SC2's second greatest name? You don't explain how you arrived at that. If anything, I would say MC is the seconds greatest, if not the greatest player (although one could argue that MvP will surpass him in earnings if he wins this season) http://sc2earnings.com/ I don't think you can take earnings to compare skill level between two players. Of course MC is a very good and accomplished player but in terms of skill i would always favor MVP because he won the GSL Code S twice as much as MC and was in twice as much finals. He won pretty much every foreign tourneys he entered in...it's a pretty accurate mesurement of skill level, if you win 70% of the tournament you entered in you're probably better than the guy who only win 60% even if the guy won 15 tournaments and you "only" won 8 or 9 (with a good sample size tho, if you only entered 1 and won it, i won't say you are better than the guy who won 15 and entered 20). You can earn quite a lot of money winning a foreign tourney without even having so much trouble because your opponents aren't as good as in the GSL and no foreign tourney come close to the overall skill level of GSL Code S. | ||
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Surili
United Kingdom1141 Posts
On October 15 2012 16:58 Arachne wrote: I want to say, as a journalist I feel ashamed that you have allowed your fanboyism for MvP to get in the way of the facts. Nestea was the 1st to achieve and actually win back to back GSL titles, before 2011 Blizzcon.. In May and July. He also achieved it without dropping a map in an entire season. Also, on what basis are you calling Nestea SC2's second greatest name? You don't explain how you arrived at that. If anything, I would say MC is the seconds greatest, if not the greatest player (although one could argue that MvP will surpass him in earnings if he wins this season) http://sc2earnings.com/ You list his MLG win as a massive feat, and then within the same paragraph, imply that this feat shouldn't be there. What is the "Gainward tournament"? Is the G not supposed to be capitalized, or is the T supposed to be capitalized? Good luck for future articles, work on the aspect that the reader doesn't quite know 100% what you are talking about, and remember to check spelling and grammar. Editors only can do so much. Also, 13 is an odd number to use, you maybe should have cut it down to 10, left out MLG, or combined it with IEM, used the semi-finals in the same point as 2 paragraphs, and tried to keep each point at about the same length, probably 2 paragraphs. I have to say, that you are being massively picky and actually flat out wrong. Complaining at the number that he used? He tried to post all of the great achievements that MVP has, i want to know how many there are, not whether it is a nice round number. As for saying that Nestea was the first to win back to back GSL titles. You are wrong again. The super tournament took place between May and July. The super tournament is considered a GSL. Even if you wanted to talk about Code S tournaments (which isn't what the writer said), to criticise him on it seems entirely unwarranted. As for what you are saying about MLG, he states what is most impressive is the fact that winning an MLG is for MVP unimpressive. Not knowing what the gainward tournament is isn't the writer's failing, it is yours. Don't criticise him on it. I didn't know what it was either, and now i do i could look it up if i wanted. As for who is the second most successful player, sure, there is an argument to be made for it not being Nestea, and MC seems a good choice, but GSLs are considered the crowning achievement of a SC2 player, so it is absolutely fair for him to use Nestea who has the second largest number of titles, as well as being the first to make it to 3 if i recall correctly. - - - - Really nice article, i very much enjoyed it, and it truly puts to rest any question about who the most successful sc2 player is. Edit: The gainward tournament courtesy of the great LP: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gainward_SC2_Tournament Which if you take a look at the names was actually ridiculously high level for the time. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
On October 15 2012 16:58 Arachne wrote: I want to say, as a journalist I feel ashamed that you have allowed your fanboyism for MvP to get in the way of the facts. Nestea was the 1st to achieve and actually win back to back GSL titles, before 2011 Blizzcon.. In May and July. He also achieved it without dropping a map in an entire season. Also, on what basis are you calling Nestea SC2's second greatest name? You don't explain how you arrived at that. If anything, I would say MC is the seconds greatest, if not the greatest player (although one could argue that MvP will surpass him in earnings if he wins this season) http://sc2earnings.com/ You list his MLG win as a massive feat, and then within the same paragraph, imply that this feat shouldn't be there. What is the "Gainward tournament"? Is the G not supposed to be capitalized, or is the T supposed to be capitalized? Good luck for future articles, work on the aspect that the reader doesn't quite know 100% what you are talking about, and remember to check spelling and grammar. Editors only can do so much. Also, 13 is an odd number to use, you maybe should have cut it down to 10, left out MLG, or combined it with IEM, used the semi-finals in the same point as 2 paragraphs, and tried to keep each point at about the same length, probably 2 paragraphs. Another anti-fan who can't... DEAL WITH IT! | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On October 15 2012 15:57 jmbthirteen wrote: while the field was weaker, it was a more difficult path than what Nestea had in his one run in Code S. HuK, July, San, MKP vs July, Ensnare, Coca, HongUn, Losira/Jinro, FD, anypro, sC and Inca. I'd consider the World Championships at least as hard as both of NesTea's Code S wins. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On October 15 2012 03:55 Scootaloo wrote: Really don't know why people still get hyped about him, these days he's just a hardcore cheeser, i.e. short, boring games. User was temp banned for this post. Bashing on the best player in the world...... look what that got you. | ||
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Raid
United States398 Posts
On October 15 2012 04:10 Scootaloo wrote: I don't think you understand what trolling is. I don't think anyone should take this guy seriously. He only joined in 2012.. MVP been winning everything before he even touched SC2 until this year. Obviously some butt hurt protoss fanboy who watched MVP slaughter all his favorite players.. | ||
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
On October 15 2012 14:56 densha wrote: If he wins a 5th title, I'm using the "B" word. Agreed. There's absolutely no one else that would deserve the first mention of said word than MVP. | ||
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