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On October 14 2012 02:34 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 02:15 IPA wrote:On October 14 2012 02:05 TheRabidDeer wrote:On October 14 2012 01:32 IPA wrote:
Just reinforcing my dislike of desrow. "Jew" isn't a pejorative term. It's 2012, Jesus. I am offended by your usage of the word Jesus. You should not use the Lord's name in vain! In all seriousness, I dont think his usage was too horrible. If you are pissed off that you are not being given good food when you pay for it, and are denied that food when asking for it... you might use a similar word. Anybody that holds this against desrow is just a witch hunter. Incorrect. I would not use a similar word because I'm not a bigot. The use of Jew as a pejorative is loaded with so much sorrow and violence as to be as unacceptable as the n-bomb. You (and 80% of TL) use the term "witch hunt" any chance you get. I'm not sure what world you live in where calling someone a "jew" isn't a big deal. Thank god I'm not a part of it. Your use of the word Jesus is loaded with sorrow and the pain of all of mankinds sins. Yet you were fine using that? Yes, jew is an offensive term in the context used... but to be throwing so much hatred at desrow for using it in a fit of anger is outrageous. To claim that it is as unacceptable as the n-bomb... no.
We get it, you think anti-semitism is ok. Other people do not share your views, and will act accordingly. Comparing the use of Jesus (a singular noun referring to an individual) to the use of jew (a pejorative noun reflecting ethnic/religious status) is as stupid as it gets.
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Food is not expensive... These players are paying over 600 euros + stream money to live in this house. HOW CAN THEY NOT AFFORD FOOD FOR THEM??
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On October 14 2012 02:39 mrRoflpwn wrote:
Food is not expensive... These players are paying over 600 euros + stream money to live in this house. HOW CAN THEY NOT AFFORD FOOD FOR THEM??
well you gotta set aside $$ for the alcohol and parties, those things aren't cheap ya know
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On October 14 2012 01:54 Wortie wrote:
Desrow didn't use the word jew as a racist slur, he used it as it's stereotype image. When you call someone a jew, who isn't actually a jew, you call someone greedy, or like that person makes too much money. I don't think it was that bad of an offense.
Thank you for being reasonable and not a stupid oversensitive prick like half of this fucking community.
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On October 14 2012 02:38 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 02:34 TheRabidDeer wrote:On October 14 2012 02:15 IPA wrote:On October 14 2012 02:05 TheRabidDeer wrote:On October 14 2012 01:32 IPA wrote:
Just reinforcing my dislike of desrow. "Jew" isn't a pejorative term. It's 2012, Jesus. I am offended by your usage of the word Jesus. You should not use the Lord's name in vain! In all seriousness, I dont think his usage was too horrible. If you are pissed off that you are not being given good food when you pay for it, and are denied that food when asking for it... you might use a similar word. Anybody that holds this against desrow is just a witch hunter. Incorrect. I would not use a similar word because I'm not a bigot. The use of Jew as a pejorative is loaded with so much sorrow and violence as to be as unacceptable as the n-bomb. You (and 80% of TL) use the term "witch hunt" any chance you get. I'm not sure what world you live in where calling someone a "jew" isn't a big deal. Thank god I'm not a part of it. Your use of the word Jesus is loaded with sorrow and the pain of all of mankinds sins. Yet you were fine using that? Yes, jew is an offensive term in the context used... but to be throwing so much hatred at desrow for using it in a fit of anger is outrageous. To claim that it is as unacceptable as the n-bomb... no. We get it, you think anti-semitism is ok. Other people do not share your views, and will act accordingly. Comparing the use of Jesus (a singular noun referring to an individual) to the use of jew (a pejorative noun reflecting ethnic/religious status) is as stupid as it gets.
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.
Also, Jesus in the way he used it was not a singular noun, it is an interjection that uses the Lord's name in vain, which any religious person of catholic or christian belief (maybe other religions) would take offense to. Just because you dont find it offensive, doesnt mean others wont. Do you see what I am saying here?
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They should distribute food based on relative performance, i hear thats how they got july to win.
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The drama never ends with these guys 
That whole situation got blown out of proportion by both Desrow and the player manager. But seriously MoW needs to get their shit together and provide them with proper meals.
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On October 14 2012 02:40 heartlxp wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 02:39 mrRoflpwn wrote:
Food is not expensive... These players are paying over 600 euros + stream money to live in this house. HOW CAN THEY NOT AFFORD FOOD FOR THEM?? well you gotta set aside $$ for the alcohol and parties, those things aren't cheap ya know
Well i don't know if they drink much in this house but if they do and if they got a food issue they should probably not even drink at all. It's common sense that you don't drink when you haven't eaten properly.
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On October 14 2012 02:17 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 02:05 TheRabidDeer wrote:On October 14 2012 01:32 IPA wrote:
Just reinforcing my dislike of desrow. "Jew" isn't a pejorative term. It's 2012, Jesus. I am offended by your usage of the word Jesus. You should not use the Lord's name in vain! In all seriousness, I dont think his usage was too horrible. If you are pissed off that you are not being given good food when you pay for it, and are denied that food when asking for it... you might use a similar word. Anybody that holds this against desrow is just a witch hunter. Or they've grown up with Jewish people, had experience with Holocaust survivors, or are Jewish themselves. I actively chide those who make stupid, childish statements laced with anti-semitism in real life; I am going to do the same online. You may call me a witch hunter all you like; I'll simply call you a fool.
OR they know how the dangerous Nazis (the clever ones) actually talk. They won't use "jewish" as equivalent to "greedy", they will talk about "anti-patriotism" or "the jewish members of our society". You can't draw conclusions from the usage of a word like that.
Assuming that desrow would love to see another holocaust (that's what it would mean if he'd be antisemitic) because he said "you're a fucking jew, stop being so greedy" to a guy who gives him a sandvich and soup for his meal is pretty damn far-fetched. The younger generation of jews I know (below 40) aren't concerned with that type of stuff because it's used as a random joke and in jest most of the time.
OBVIOUSLY if the same sentence comes from someone with a shaved head and swastika tatoos it's a different issue. Context, people.
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Hm, nothing good coming out of the MoW. I wonder for how long this will go on. Maybe there will be one huge finishing blow. Or maybe there will be lots and lots of rather small drama like this until finally nobody wants to go there anymore.
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On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 02:38 farvacola wrote:On October 14 2012 02:34 TheRabidDeer wrote:On October 14 2012 02:15 IPA wrote:On October 14 2012 02:05 TheRabidDeer wrote:On October 14 2012 01:32 IPA wrote:
Just reinforcing my dislike of desrow. "Jew" isn't a pejorative term. It's 2012, Jesus. I am offended by your usage of the word Jesus. You should not use the Lord's name in vain! In all seriousness, I dont think his usage was too horrible. If you are pissed off that you are not being given good food when you pay for it, and are denied that food when asking for it... you might use a similar word. Anybody that holds this against desrow is just a witch hunter. Incorrect. I would not use a similar word because I'm not a bigot. The use of Jew as a pejorative is loaded with so much sorrow and violence as to be as unacceptable as the n-bomb. You (and 80% of TL) use the term "witch hunt" any chance you get. I'm not sure what world you live in where calling someone a "jew" isn't a big deal. Thank god I'm not a part of it. Your use of the word Jesus is loaded with sorrow and the pain of all of mankinds sins. Yet you were fine using that? Yes, jew is an offensive term in the context used... but to be throwing so much hatred at desrow for using it in a fit of anger is outrageous. To claim that it is as unacceptable as the n-bomb... no. We get it, you think anti-semitism is ok. Other people do not share your views, and will act accordingly. Comparing the use of Jesus (a singular noun referring to an individual) to the use of jew (a pejorative noun reflecting ethnic/religious status) is as stupid as it gets. Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB. Also, Jesus in the way he used it was not a singular noun, it is an interjection that uses the Lord's name in vain, which any religious person of catholic or christian belief (maybe other religions) would take offense to. Just because you dont find it offensive, doesnt mean others wont. Do you see what I am saying here?
No, because what you are saying is absolutely idiotic. The use of "Jesus" is in no way an indictment of an individuals religious or ethnic affiliation; sure, it might offend a devout Christian through its careless use, but it is in no way an epithet meant to slander one's standing as a Christian. And, although I hate to be the bearer of bad news, you are a card carrying anti-semite. How can you not see the problem in equating Jewishness with greed? It doesn't matter if your audience is Jewish or not. If you, by virtue of use, equate Jew with miser, you are a bigot, plain and simple.
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desrow in a fight over food xDxD
and everyone trying to ruin MoW,wassup with that
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This just makes everyone look bad. Except MorroW. MorroW is a lovely man.
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Well I guess that's the nail in the coffin for MoW. No sane person will ever attend this house after he reads the reddit comments of former members (and the Fuzer drama).
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On October 14 2012 02:51 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:On October 14 2012 02:38 farvacola wrote:On October 14 2012 02:34 TheRabidDeer wrote:On October 14 2012 02:15 IPA wrote:On October 14 2012 02:05 TheRabidDeer wrote:On October 14 2012 01:32 IPA wrote:
Just reinforcing my dislike of desrow. "Jew" isn't a pejorative term. It's 2012, Jesus. I am offended by your usage of the word Jesus. You should not use the Lord's name in vain! In all seriousness, I dont think his usage was too horrible. If you are pissed off that you are not being given good food when you pay for it, and are denied that food when asking for it... you might use a similar word. Anybody that holds this against desrow is just a witch hunter. Incorrect. I would not use a similar word because I'm not a bigot. The use of Jew as a pejorative is loaded with so much sorrow and violence as to be as unacceptable as the n-bomb. You (and 80% of TL) use the term "witch hunt" any chance you get. I'm not sure what world you live in where calling someone a "jew" isn't a big deal. Thank god I'm not a part of it. Your use of the word Jesus is loaded with sorrow and the pain of all of mankinds sins. Yet you were fine using that? Yes, jew is an offensive term in the context used... but to be throwing so much hatred at desrow for using it in a fit of anger is outrageous. To claim that it is as unacceptable as the n-bomb... no. We get it, you think anti-semitism is ok. Other people do not share your views, and will act accordingly. Comparing the use of Jesus (a singular noun referring to an individual) to the use of jew (a pejorative noun reflecting ethnic/religious status) is as stupid as it gets. Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB. Also, Jesus in the way he used it was not a singular noun, it is an interjection that uses the Lord's name in vain, which any religious person of catholic or christian belief (maybe other religions) would take offense to. Just because you dont find it offensive, doesnt mean others wont. Do you see what I am saying here? No, because what you are saying is absolutely idiotic. The use of "Jesus" is in no way an indictment of an individuals religious or ethnic affiliation; sure, it might offend a devout Christian through its careless use, but it is in no way an epithet meant to slander one's standing as a Christian. And, although I hate to be the bearer of bad news, you are a card carrying anti-semite. How can you not see the problem in equating Jewishness with greed? It doesn't matter if your audience is Jewish or not. If you, by virtue of use, equate Jew with miser, you are a bigot, plain and simple.
If I am dancing and somebody says, "jeez you are so white" I am not offended. What is the significance of the term white? It means I suck at dancing. This is what is known as a STEREOTYPE. Jew in this instance carries the same weight of offensiveness unless you hugely carry the term out of proportion. I am not an anti-semite, and the fact that you are calling me one is way more offensive than anything I have heard.
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I think it's mind boggling how anyone can think 'stereotypes' are divorced from racism. Does that mean that I believe that Desrow is a nazi? No. Do I think he said it because he was angry? Sure. But that's not the point. I'm arguing that using Jew as a derogatory term for greedy is racist. It's incredibly strange that people are assuming 'witch hunt' or whatever. I'm not sitting here fuming or hating Desrow. I'm not calling for people to email sponsors, to burn him at the stake or anything of the sort. I'm merely arguing that him calling someone else a Jew because they're greedy is antisemitic. If that's not antisemitism I don't know what is.
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On October 14 2012 02:55 Heartland wrote:
I think it's mind boggling how anyone can think 'stereotypes' are divorced from racism. Does that mean that I believe that Desrow is a nazi? No. Do I think he said it because he was angry? Sure. But that's not the point. I'm arguing that using Jew as a derogatory term for greedy is racist. It's incredibly strange that people are assuming 'witch hunt' or whatever. I'm not sitting here fuming or hating Desrow. I'm not calling for people to email sponsors, to burn him at the stake or anything of the sort. I'm merely arguing that him calling someone else a Jew because they're greedy is antisemitic. If that's not antisemitism I don't know what is.
Stereotypes are not what you think they are. If you see somebody that looks like a cowboy, you might call him a cowboy. That is a stereotype. Is it racist? No.
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On October 14 2012 02:54 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 02:51 farvacola wrote:On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:On October 14 2012 02:38 farvacola wrote:On October 14 2012 02:34 TheRabidDeer wrote:On October 14 2012 02:15 IPA wrote:On October 14 2012 02:05 TheRabidDeer wrote:On October 14 2012 01:32 IPA wrote:
Just reinforcing my dislike of desrow. "Jew" isn't a pejorative term. It's 2012, Jesus. I am offended by your usage of the word Jesus. You should not use the Lord's name in vain! In all seriousness, I dont think his usage was too horrible. If you are pissed off that you are not being given good food when you pay for it, and are denied that food when asking for it... you might use a similar word. Anybody that holds this against desrow is just a witch hunter. Incorrect. I would not use a similar word because I'm not a bigot. The use of Jew as a pejorative is loaded with so much sorrow and violence as to be as unacceptable as the n-bomb. You (and 80% of TL) use the term "witch hunt" any chance you get. I'm not sure what world you live in where calling someone a "jew" isn't a big deal. Thank god I'm not a part of it. Your use of the word Jesus is loaded with sorrow and the pain of all of mankinds sins. Yet you were fine using that? Yes, jew is an offensive term in the context used... but to be throwing so much hatred at desrow for using it in a fit of anger is outrageous. To claim that it is as unacceptable as the n-bomb... no. We get it, you think anti-semitism is ok. Other people do not share your views, and will act accordingly. Comparing the use of Jesus (a singular noun referring to an individual) to the use of jew (a pejorative noun reflecting ethnic/religious status) is as stupid as it gets. Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB. Also, Jesus in the way he used it was not a singular noun, it is an interjection that uses the Lord's name in vain, which any religious person of catholic or christian belief (maybe other religions) would take offense to. Just because you dont find it offensive, doesnt mean others wont. Do you see what I am saying here? No, because what you are saying is absolutely idiotic. The use of "Jesus" is in no way an indictment of an individuals religious or ethnic affiliation; sure, it might offend a devout Christian through its careless use, but it is in no way an epithet meant to slander one's standing as a Christian. And, although I hate to be the bearer of bad news, you are a card carrying anti-semite. How can you not see the problem in equating Jewishness with greed? It doesn't matter if your audience is Jewish or not. If you, by virtue of use, equate Jew with miser, you are a bigot, plain and simple. If I am dancing and somebody says, "jeez you are so white" I am not offended. What is the significance of the term white? It means I suck at dancing. This is what is known as a STEREOTYPE. Jew in this instance carries the same weight of offensiveness unless you hugely carry the term out of proportion. I am not an anti-semite, and the fact that you are calling me one is way more offensive than anything I have heard.
Cause being white has been such a hardship throughout history, amirite?
Wow this thread got derailed. Anyways, it should be closed because everything that needs to be said has been said. MorroW is a great guy, is my takeaway from all of this.
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I dont understand why some many from the united states are talking more about the use of the word jew then the actual matter at hand! hmmmm maybe there is some connection?!?!?
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Two dudes argue with each other, and somehow this has to be discussed publicly again.
Really no idea why this is anyone's business.
The new drama threads popping up every day are just annyoing. Some people need to watch more soap operas and spare us their nonsense.
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