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Tgaud
France16 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:12 Aulisemia wrote: Because he gets paid a lot of money to represent an organization like a professional, not some \b tard on the internet? Yeah but it was on his free time in france. He was not playing or having the EG clothes on him. It's not a full time job. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:07 NMHU. wrote: Fuck this industry. Everyone is losing here because of the oversensitivity of this community. Viewers and event organisators ain't going to get out of this a winner. You do understand how this reflects on a team whose reputation is that of attracting sponsors like no other team can right? Overly sensitive may describe forum or Reddit reactions, but from a business standpoint this is a wrist slap. Consider that Orb was dismissed from EG for racial slurs, Stephano's saving grace is that he plays amazing Starcraft. | ||
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Govou
Canada1072 Posts
in fact, some of you should start campaign about 'ABUSING MINOR JOKE = FUNNY, ENJOY LIFE' see how far that goes. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:14 Tgaud wrote: Yeah but it was on his free time in france. He was not playing or having the EG clothes on him. It's not a full time job. Orb wasn't on staff either when he made his comments. | ||
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
Real overreaction from EG, but hey, us Americans love to overreact to everything. | ||
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osiris17
United States165 Posts
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Tgaud
France16 Posts
Stephano, EG, Sponsors, community They shot 4 feets with only one bullet | ||
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Skelith
Sweden101 Posts
Guess he got mad when he found out that then EG house wasnt a middle school frathouse  | ||
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
I like Stephano. He is a great zerg player and has pioneered a lot of styles, especially in ZvP. I also like him because of his personality, which includes him acting like a douchebag sometimes and is always fun to watch. When he says something like, "I've already won this tournament" at WCS Europe, it just ups the stakes so much for him, since it would make him look like a fool if he lost. IMO, he just adds so much more story to the tournament than these goddamn silent foreigners and "faceless" koreans. So he said some comment that may have some sexual implication to a buddy in a PM in a fucking video game. Now people are going apeshit over it. The worst part is all the retards calling him a "rapist" when we really have no fucking idea what happened. All I want is to see more games and more funny interviews with Stephano. And I really hate all these North American "knights" circle-jerking in this thread how that French "rapist" committed terrible, terrible crimes. It's just sad, really, I'm not posting in this thread anymore. | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:15 ThomasjServo wrote: Orb wasn't on staff either when he made his comments. And very few people defended Orb. Yet over 50% of this thread is in favor of Stephano making child abuse comments purely because they're fanboys. It's just ridiculous that they can't see how biased they are. Either we persecute people for this stuff or we don't - we can't just do it inconsistently because we like or dislike somebody. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
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Tgaud
France16 Posts
And what we want, is seeing stephano play in tournaments. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:19 dcemuser wrote: And very few people defended Orb. Yet over 50% of this thread is in favor of Stephano making child abuse comments purely because they're fanboys. It's just ridiculous that they can't see how biased they are. People who don't agree with Stephanos punishment are biased because Orb was punished. Waht. | ||
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:00 MountainDewJunkie wrote: That's a fair point, people do subject themselves to moral clauses and leave themselves to the whim on their masters. On the other hand, consider what stephano has done: two lines of texts indicating he's sexually aroused by, or has abused, minors (as jokes). Imagine if you could bring this to a third party. Can EG argue this is "immoral" enough to punish like this? Can they even prove the nature of his posts were even sexual? All I'm saying what he did was stupid, but probably not a violation of a morality clause. Maybe there's is an additional don't-make-us-look-bad clause, which covers anything and everything that deals with image and words. In other words: don't fuck with our money flow, or we fuck with yours. It usually is under some "personal conduct" policy, not always under a morality policy. Usually the one covers things that the other does not. This ensures there is some punitive avenue for anything that is detrimental to the team and relevant entities. Your point about third parties is taken. I would argue that most teams would object to any contract that gave decision to enforce or maintain their brand outside of the organization itself. This is seen widely throughout the major sports landscape and its only natural to assume that it would emulated here. | ||
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MrMedic
Canada452 Posts
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Kasu
United Kingdom345 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:19 dcemuser wrote: And very few people defended Orb. Yet over 50% of this thread is in favor of Stephano making child abuse comments purely because they're fanboys. It's just ridiculous that they can't see how biased they are. Most of them are arguing against people calling Stephano a rapist, which goes miles beyond what conclusions can be drawn from the facts and is one of the most damaging things you can say about anyone. Its not like everybody is saying Stephano should have license to do whatever he wants. And nobody is "in favour" of jokes like that. Please think a little harder about the comments you read. There are tens of different discussion strands going on here and a spectrum of views expressed on each one. You can't seriously be writing off everyone who disagrees with your totally one-dimensional and hyperbolic statement as biased idiots. | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:19 shizaep wrote: I like Stephano. He is a great zerg player and has pioneered a lot of styles, especially in ZvP. I also like him because of his personality, which includes him acting like a douchebag sometimes and is always fun to watch. When he says something like, "I've already won this tournament" at WCS Europe, it just ups the stakes so much for him, since it would make him look like a fool if he lost. IMO, he just adds so much more story to the tournament than these goddamn silent foreigners and "faceless" koreans. Koreans are definitely not faceless. Some of the 2011 Korean terrans (back when they swamped code S) might be, but many are not. Regardless, there are ways to cause drama without making some very stupid joke. If anything, I was much more sympathetic towards say Naniwa's probe rush than this. | ||
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:19 dcemuser wrote: And very few people defended Orb. Yet over 50% of this thread is in favor of Stephano making child abuse comments purely because they're fanboys. It's just ridiculous that they can't see how biased they are. Either we persecute people for this stuff or we don't - we can't just do it inconsistently because we like or dislike somebody. People here aren't defending Stephano making child-abuse comments. They're criticizing people who would consider that making a comment about girls of a sexual nature is something that needs to be "punished". Every single 19yo male in the world should be punished then. | ||
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Tgaud
France16 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:19 dcemuser wrote: And very few people defended Orb. Yet over 50% of this thread is in favor of Stephano making child abuse comments purely because they're fanboys. It's just ridiculous that they can't see how biased they are. Either we persecute people for this stuff or we don't - we can't just do it inconsistently because we like or dislike somebody. And you want to punish a young man playing video game a private joke to a friend on his free time in france with family. (like I did younger pretending my mom died at school to shock my schoolmates to see their faces and laugh at them after) And to cancel tournament, have a whole community totally disapointed, having stephano to go in korea far from his family and everything. Juste because you're american and you are a hater. You can easily kill child in others countries with bombs and laugh about that, but you cry when you hear that a 14yo mis-educated or already-matured girl had some good time with boys. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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