EPT[Interview] OSL Ro4 D1 Winner - Page 3
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ZaloMonkada
United States86 Posts
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
Hwaiting!!!! GL HF | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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iVitaminC
United States27 Posts
On October 10 2012 02:22 bsdaemon wrote: is there a vod of this? down 0-3 and making a comeback, i must watch it. this is where i watch all my OSL VODS free.. only bad thing is its korean commentary.. but hey its free http://www.soku.com/search_video/type_tag_q_OSL | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
On October 10 2012 05:14 BisuDagger wrote: I'm not sure if i'm right, but i thought the drops were key against taeja. Normally he has such a big economy that he can afford to build extra production, so even if he loses a battle, he can come back. Due to drops he didn't, so every lost or traded battle was a smack in the face. But maybe i remembered it all wrong. Tends to happen sometimes.The problem is it is really hard to prepare against Rain. Rain's strength is waiting to engage at the right moments. And drop harass is just a free advantage for him. He doesn't need drops to win. As long as he can move in position fine then he will win. And from the last matches it looked like he could force those against Taeja. Sun just has better map awareness. But ontopic, this was of course a great turn of events. I came in during the 3-0 for last and was sure Last would win at least another game by some ridiculous cheese or something. But rain fought back really well. The last game Last was sweating a lot and i really felt the pressure on him. Great series!  | ||
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Atrbyg
United States513 Posts
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
On October 10 2012 06:29 iVitaminC wrote: this is where i watch all my OSL VODS free.. only bad thing is its korean commentary.. but hey its free http://www.soku.com/search_video/type_tag_q_OSL Sweet. Thanks for the link to the vods. Watching game 1 now! :D Btw the commentary is in Mandarin, not Korean. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On October 10 2012 06:36 Yorbon wrote: I'm not sure if i'm right, but i thought the drops were key against taeja. Normally he has such a big economy that he can afford to build extra production, so even if he loses a battle, he can come back. Due to drops he didn't, so every lost or traded battle was a smack in the face. But maybe i remembered it all wrong. Tends to happen sometimes. But ontopic, this was of course a great turn of events. I came in during the 3-0 for last and was sure Last would win at least another game by some ridiculous cheese or something. But rain fought back really well. The last game Last was sweating a lot and i really felt the pressure on him. Great series! Yes, the vast majority of games that rain won against very good terrans (last isn't one of them , he is gimmicky and has no clue how to play in the late game, vs protoss at least), he won because of drops, taeja lost because he fell apart to drops in multiple games, not necessarily because of lack of multitasking skills, but because it's really hard for terran to deal with any form of harass if proper defence isn't already in place, such as turrets and more importantly, a separate army, which creates a different problem altogether that I won't be discussing here. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On October 10 2012 03:33 hunts wrote: Wow he reversed an 0-3 into a 4-3. As much as I hate the annoying elephant talk and BW elitism, I'm starting to be very impressed by the KESPA players and how quickly they're improving. It must take a very strong will and good mindset to win from an 0-3, that's really impressive. edit: Also thanks for all the hard work seeker. I don't think "BW elitism" should apply here. afaik, rain didn't actually have any major accomplishments in BW, whereas players like Jaedong dropped to code B (flash is certainly doing well though). I think Rain would have excelled at SC2 no matter where he started. TLPD shows a pretty average record (literally - 50% across all matchups total) Rain sounds much more like an "MVP" type of character - floating around the A team, with streaks at times (I think right?) but overall average, and being much more adapted to SC2. Granted my facts could be wrong - please correct me if they are but I think I'm relatively accurate. All that said, the kespa players are certainly doing well, but I don't think they're doing well enough to prove that hte whole elephant in the room thing was true. You might be able to argue "they haven't had enough time" but how much is enough? And its also, imo, easier to adapt to a metagame (kespa) than invent it. THAT said, what they've done is definitely a testament to their practice regime. | ||
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
On October 10 2012 06:29 iVitaminC wrote: this is where i watch all my OSL VODS free.. only bad thing is its korean commentary.. but hey its free http://www.soku.com/search_video/type_tag_q_OSL Man, just pm this, don't post it here. Otherwise, it's possible that it will stop working in one or two weeks. | ||
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Balgrog
United States1221 Posts
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
On October 10 2012 07:33 aintz wrote: im sure boxer will make some pro strats for mvp. Yeah no kidding. I cant help but feel that Boxer is the real mastermind behind his success ;D | ||
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SlixSC
666 Posts
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On October 10 2012 07:03 Alryk wrote: Granted my facts could be wrong - please correct me if they are but I think I'm relatively accurate. Not quite. Rain wasn't like MVP, 'floating around the A-team'. He was fresh off his rookie year as one of the best rookies in the game along with Soulkey, and became a mainstay in the SKT SPL lineup incredibly quickly. He lacks experience, but he was no doubt a rising star at the time of his switch. Given one of his biggest weaknesses in BW was a lack of experience rather than a lack of drive/skill, I'm not surprised at all he's doing well - though I couldn't have expected such strong results. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On October 10 2012 07:03 Alryk wrote: I don't think "BW elitism" should apply here. afaik, rain didn't actually have any major accomplishments in BW, whereas players like Jaedong dropped to code B (flash is certainly doing well though). I think Rain would have excelled at SC2 no matter where he started. TLPD shows a pretty average record (literally - 50% across all matchups total) Rain sounds much more like an "MVP" type of character - floating around the A team, with streaks at times (I think right?) but overall average, and being much more adapted to SC2. Granted my facts could be wrong - please correct me if they are but I think I'm relatively accurate. All that said, the kespa players are certainly doing well, but I don't think they're doing well enough to prove that hte whole elephant in the room thing was true. You might be able to argue "they haven't had enough time" but how much is enough? And its also, imo, easier to adapt to a metagame (kespa) than invent it. THAT said, what they've done is definitely a testament to their practice regime. He was a strong up and coming player. Won rookie of the year, and was on a 5 game winning streak to finish his Brood War career. He wasn't a Flash or anything, but given time, he would likely have developed into one of, if not the best protoss in the game. Iloveoov on Sun: @eunsu111: There is rumor that (P)By.Sun is ranked number one in practice. Is this true? A : By.Sun will grow into a force to be reckoned. He has a gift that leaves him no choice but to be good at this game. He can watch his teammates' games and copy their strategy and management on the fly. I'm not talking just the overall, I'm talking timings down to the second, building placements down to the very pixel, and harassment like you were watching a replay. He is an intricate copy machine. On top of this he knows how to adapt and think outside the box, and win the game when he has the advantage. He thinks when he plays so he will grow into a great player. | ||
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willfeeling
China97 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
having merely decent win rates in the current proleague format is already so much more of a skills accomplishment. | ||
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bhfberserk
Canada390 Posts
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Random_0
United States1163 Posts
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