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WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
October 03 2012 13:52 GMT
#41
Didn't know if Stephano's peak viewers were that much
TheWahbinator
Profile Joined September 2010
United States131 Posts
October 03 2012 15:00 GMT
#42
Hmm, I independently kept some stats (although not as comprehensive) and I have TaeJa somewhere between Ret and Sheth, with a single stream period on the early morning of September 13th averaging around 2180 viewers. Not saying anything is inaccurate because everything else looks great
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
October 03 2012 15:29 GMT
#43
On October 04 2012 00:00 TheWahbinator wrote:
Hmm, I independently kept some stats (although not as comprehensive) and I have TaeJa somewhere between Ret and Sheth, with a single stream period on the early morning of September 13th averaging around 2180 viewers. Not saying anything is inaccurate because everything else looks great

2188 viewers, yes. But he only streamed for about 2 hours this month, and my list has a minimum requirement of 5 streaming hours. I mentioned that in the last couple of threads, but not this time. Hmm, it's probably a good idea to include all my requirements for the rankings in the OP every month to avoid confusion.
Vandrad
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany951 Posts
October 03 2012 15:41 GMT
#44
who is hui and why is he so popular ??
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
October 03 2012 15:45 GMT
#45
EG domination. I wish TL players would stream more often.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44992 Posts
October 03 2012 15:47 GMT
#46
On October 03 2012 04:20 EatCrow wrote:
Why does everybody watch zergs? They only spread creep and inject larva


Because there aren't nearly enough amazing Protoss streamers compared to all the Terrans and Zergs who constantly stream -.-' Makes me sad when I want to watch high level Protoss play. Good thing I love White-Ra lol, but that's about it.

Anyways, we all know EG wins
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 00:56:27
October 06 2012 00:54 GMT
#47
Nice to see Scarlett jumping straight to 6th. Hoping for more Apollo and DeMuslim face time this month.

*edit* also Liquid`Sea will almost certainly be a top 10 new entry when the October stats come out.
Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
October 06 2012 01:00 GMT
#48
On October 03 2012 20:28 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 20:07 Tidus Mino wrote:
Can I ask where Neytpoh is on your list? he averages 1-2,000 viewers and is nowhere to be seen on the list

Hmm, I have put him as a caster in my list some months ago, which means he's excluded from the rankings. I cannot differentiate between a caster and a player from the data I have, so I have to manually exclude casters. Some players also cast events on their streams, which usually gives them way more viewers than they'd usually get.

In this case, however, I couldn't find any specific events that Neytpoh casted, and my memory fails me as well. So if anyone has any information on this, please let me know. Especially if he's really just streaming his own games.

His average viewers for last month were 630, so if he's just a player he'd definitely make it into the ranking.


He's a professional player for team Virtus.Pro (the same team Slivko is on)

He is not a caster
Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
October 06 2012 01:12 GMT
#49
Stephano topped the chart as usual.

Idra has been streaming more frequently.
Play your best
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
October 06 2012 01:23 GMT
#50
thats because hots is in beta and isn't even remotely close to balanced or even flowing well yet.
i like cheese
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 06 2012 02:30 GMT
#51
On October 03 2012 20:28 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 20:07 Tidus Mino wrote:
Can I ask where Neytpoh is on your list? he averages 1-2,000 viewers and is nowhere to be seen on the list

Hmm, I have put him as a caster in my list some months ago, which means he's excluded from the rankings. I cannot differentiate between a caster and a player from the data I have, so I have to manually exclude casters. Some players also cast events on their streams, which usually gives them way more viewers than they'd usually get.

In this case, however, I couldn't find any specific events that Neytpoh casted, and my memory fails me as well. So if anyone has any information on this, please let me know. Especially if he's really just streaming his own games.

His average viewers for last month were 630, so if he's just a player he'd definitely make it into the ranking.


Apollo is on there though.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
October 06 2012 03:11 GMT
#52
omfg... ForGG... 229 HOURS?!
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
October 06 2012 04:03 GMT
#53
Any thought to including entities with stream numbers like NASL or other weekly/daily programs?

It would just be interesting to see how they do compared to individuals.

Just a thought.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
October 06 2012 05:27 GMT
#54
On October 04 2012 00:41 Vandrad wrote:
who is hui and why is he so popular ??

He's a pretty good Protoss player from Taiwan i believe.
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
October 06 2012 05:39 GMT
#55
229 hours from ForGG? That's nuts
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
October 06 2012 05:55 GMT
#56
On October 06 2012 14:39 RyanRushia wrote:
229 hours from ForGG? That's nuts

Honestly he must not have a lot of things to do in Marseille besides training. His life must be 1/3 streaming, 1/3 tournaments, 1/3 sleep. I find that quite sad honestly but not speaking french in Marseille is preventing him from doing anything.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
October 06 2012 09:40 GMT
#57
On October 06 2012 10:00 Tidus Mino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 20:28 Conti wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:07 Tidus Mino wrote:
Can I ask where Neytpoh is on your list? he averages 1-2,000 viewers and is nowhere to be seen on the list

Hmm, I have put him as a caster in my list some months ago, which means he's excluded from the rankings. I cannot differentiate between a caster and a player from the data I have, so I have to manually exclude casters. Some players also cast events on their streams, which usually gives them way more viewers than they'd usually get.

In this case, however, I couldn't find any specific events that Neytpoh casted, and my memory fails me as well. So if anyone has any information on this, please let me know. Especially if he's really just streaming his own games.

His average viewers for last month were 630, so if he's just a player he'd definitely make it into the ranking.


He's a professional player for team Virtus.Pro (the same team Slivko is on)

He is not a caster

I know that. But some players do cast games on their streams in their spare time, so to speak. Pomi did so recently, for instance.

The problem is that, while I do record the events the streams are running under, it's not easily possible to determine whether a stream is being used to cast or to play. Player X streaming the event "Playhem Daily" is most likely playing the game. Player Y streaming the event "WCS Europe finals" is most likely casting. But you cannot say for certain without actually watching the stream. I'm planning on changing my approach for this, though, and I'll either create a white-list of regular events or a black-list of events where players were casting games, instead of blacklisting the players entirely when I find out they were casting some games.

On October 06 2012 11:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 20:28 Conti wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:07 Tidus Mino wrote:
Can I ask where Neytpoh is on your list? he averages 1-2,000 viewers and is nowhere to be seen on the list

Hmm, I have put him as a caster in my list some months ago, which means he's excluded from the rankings. I cannot differentiate between a caster and a player from the data I have, so I have to manually exclude casters. Some players also cast events on their streams, which usually gives them way more viewers than they'd usually get.

In this case, however, I couldn't find any specific events that Neytpoh casted, and my memory fails me as well. So if anyone has any information on this, please let me know. Especially if he's really just streaming his own games.

His average viewers for last month were 630, so if he's just a player he'd definitely make it into the ranking.


Apollo is on there though.

Hmm, did he cast games on his stream lately? He started the stream to ladder, and I figured that's what he's still using his stream for. If that's not the case, please let me know.

On October 06 2012 13:03 FLuE wrote:
Any thought to including entities with stream numbers like NASL or other weekly/daily programs?

It would just be interesting to see how they do compared to individuals.

Just a thought.

That's definitely possible, and I might get around to this next time. It's the lack of time for the most part that keeps me from doing interesting statistics like that. It's often more complicated than it sounds, though. Sometimes the restreams (which haf far less viewers, obviously) have the same event name as the original stream, or there are different streams for the same regular event (Playhem Daily with their various casters), or there are multiple streams for the same event. But this is definitely something I want to do.

And then of course there are the big events like GSL, MLG or IPL, which do not publish their live viewing numbers at all.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 10:08:18
October 06 2012 10:05 GMT
#58
EG stream team! Climbing those leader boards. It is getting kinda crazy though. Forgg spent 31% of the month streaming. The lack of Koreans streaming now is scary. Private practice mode with GSTL and elephants running around I guess.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 06 2012 16:40 GMT
#59
On October 06 2012 18:40 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:00 Tidus Mino wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:28 Conti wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:07 Tidus Mino wrote:
Can I ask where Neytpoh is on your list? he averages 1-2,000 viewers and is nowhere to be seen on the list

Hmm, I have put him as a caster in my list some months ago, which means he's excluded from the rankings. I cannot differentiate between a caster and a player from the data I have, so I have to manually exclude casters. Some players also cast events on their streams, which usually gives them way more viewers than they'd usually get.

In this case, however, I couldn't find any specific events that Neytpoh casted, and my memory fails me as well. So if anyone has any information on this, please let me know. Especially if he's really just streaming his own games.

His average viewers for last month were 630, so if he's just a player he'd definitely make it into the ranking.


He's a professional player for team Virtus.Pro (the same team Slivko is on)

He is not a caster

I know that. But some players do cast games on their streams in their spare time, so to speak. Pomi did so recently, for instance.

The problem is that, while I do record the events the streams are running under, it's not easily possible to determine whether a stream is being used to cast or to play. Player X streaming the event "Playhem Daily" is most likely playing the game. Player Y streaming the event "WCS Europe finals" is most likely casting. But you cannot say for certain without actually watching the stream. I'm planning on changing my approach for this, though, and I'll either create a white-list of regular events or a black-list of events where players were casting games, instead of blacklisting the players entirely when I find out they were casting some games.

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 11:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:28 Conti wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:07 Tidus Mino wrote:
Can I ask where Neytpoh is on your list? he averages 1-2,000 viewers and is nowhere to be seen on the list

Hmm, I have put him as a caster in my list some months ago, which means he's excluded from the rankings. I cannot differentiate between a caster and a player from the data I have, so I have to manually exclude casters. Some players also cast events on their streams, which usually gives them way more viewers than they'd usually get.

In this case, however, I couldn't find any specific events that Neytpoh casted, and my memory fails me as well. So if anyone has any information on this, please let me know. Especially if he's really just streaming his own games.

His average viewers for last month were 630, so if he's just a player he'd definitely make it into the ranking.


Apollo is on there though.

Hmm, did he cast games on his stream lately? He started the stream to ladder, and I figured that's what he's still using his stream for. If that's not the case, please let me know.

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 13:03 FLuE wrote:
Any thought to including entities with stream numbers like NASL or other weekly/daily programs?

It would just be interesting to see how they do compared to individuals.

Just a thought.

That's definitely possible, and I might get around to this next time. It's the lack of time for the most part that keeps me from doing interesting statistics like that. It's often more complicated than it sounds, though. Sometimes the restreams (which haf far less viewers, obviously) have the same event name as the original stream, or there are different streams for the same regular event (Playhem Daily with their various casters), or there are multiple streams for the same event. But this is definitely something I want to do.

And then of course there are the big events like GSL, MLG or IPL, which do not publish their live viewing numbers at all.


Yeah Apollo plays, I just wasn't sure if you meant that you don't put casters on the list, or you don't put people who only cast on the list. Difference =]
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
October 06 2012 16:55 GMT
#60
On October 06 2012 18:40 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:00 Tidus Mino wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:28 Conti wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:07 Tidus Mino wrote:
Can I ask where Neytpoh is on your list? he averages 1-2,000 viewers and is nowhere to be seen on the list

Hmm, I have put him as a caster in my list some months ago, which means he's excluded from the rankings. I cannot differentiate between a caster and a player from the data I have, so I have to manually exclude casters. Some players also cast events on their streams, which usually gives them way more viewers than they'd usually get.

In this case, however, I couldn't find any specific events that Neytpoh casted, and my memory fails me as well. So if anyone has any information on this, please let me know. Especially if he's really just streaming his own games.

His average viewers for last month were 630, so if he's just a player he'd definitely make it into the ranking.


He's a professional player for team Virtus.Pro (the same team Slivko is on)

He is not a caster

I know that. But some players do cast games on their streams in their spare time, so to speak. Pomi did so recently, for instance.

The problem is that, while I do record the events the streams are running under, it's not easily possible to determine whether a stream is being used to cast or to play. Player X streaming the event "Playhem Daily" is most likely playing the game. Player Y streaming the event "WCS Europe finals" is most likely casting. But you cannot say for certain without actually watching the stream. I'm planning on changing my approach for this, though, and I'll either create a white-list of regular events or a black-list of events where players were casting games, instead of blacklisting the players entirely when I find out they were casting some games.

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 11:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:28 Conti wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:07 Tidus Mino wrote:
Can I ask where Neytpoh is on your list? he averages 1-2,000 viewers and is nowhere to be seen on the list

Hmm, I have put him as a caster in my list some months ago, which means he's excluded from the rankings. I cannot differentiate between a caster and a player from the data I have, so I have to manually exclude casters. Some players also cast events on their streams, which usually gives them way more viewers than they'd usually get.

In this case, however, I couldn't find any specific events that Neytpoh casted, and my memory fails me as well. So if anyone has any information on this, please let me know. Especially if he's really just streaming his own games.

His average viewers for last month were 630, so if he's just a player he'd definitely make it into the ranking.


Apollo is on there though.

Hmm, did he cast games on his stream lately? He started the stream to ladder, and I figured that's what he's still using his stream for. If that's not the case, please let me know.

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 13:03 FLuE wrote:
Any thought to including entities with stream numbers like NASL or other weekly/daily programs?

It would just be interesting to see how they do compared to individuals.

Just a thought.

That's definitely possible, and I might get around to this next time. It's the lack of time for the most part that keeps me from doing interesting statistics like that. It's often more complicated than it sounds, though. Sometimes the restreams (which haf far less viewers, obviously) have the same event name as the original stream, or there are different streams for the same regular event (Playhem Daily with their various casters), or there are multiple streams for the same event. But this is definitely something I want to do.

And then of course there are the big events like GSL, MLG or IPL, which do not publish their live viewing numbers at all.


He was one of the best WC3 players from Russia along with Happy, which is why he has so many viewers, because almost all of them are Russian, he does not cast his games, he just plays and streams
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