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itsjustatank
Hong Kong9154 Posts
 Puzzle has withdrawn from the NASL and the GSL on the advice of medical professionals.Due to unfortunate circumstances and at the advice of medical professionals, Puzzle of Team SlayerS has withdrawn from both NASL Season 4 and GSL. Fnatic's Oz will replace him in the NASL lineup. Hopefully Puzzle can make a speedy recovery from whatever it is that is ailing him.Source: NASL.tv 
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44342 Posts
 What's wrong with him in particular? Medical professionals? I hope whatever's wrong with him isn't permanent x.x | ||
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Equity213
Canada873 Posts
Get well soon! Puzzle fighting! | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
Get well soon please. You are one of my all time favorite Protosses | ||
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Equity213
Canada873 Posts
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Colonel.782
United States18 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=370205¤tpage=2#31 | ||
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Saraf
United States160 Posts
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Majynx
United States1431 Posts
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TheRealNanMan
United States1471 Posts
Best of Luck to Oz in NASL as well | ||
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freeshooter
United States477 Posts
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
Get well soon! | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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LiLSighKoh
United States588 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
Get well soon Mr. Handsome! | ||
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b0mBerMan
Japan271 Posts
GW soon Puzzletoss! | ||
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
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bearcatter
United States171 Posts
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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delchuu
Germany166 Posts
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Kubricks
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United States1430 Posts
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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RiceAgainst
United States1849 Posts
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
when on top of his game, he's daammnn good :D | ||
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Azzur
Australia6259 Posts
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GTPGlitch
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On September 21 2012 13:35 Waxangel wrote: Medical was what they stuck on crank when he wanted to leave Puzzle did consider quitting after the Kespa pros showed that they are already no chobos | ||
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FuGGu
United States176 Posts
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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Xaxziminrax
United States19 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
Jesus MMA, stop kicking everyones ass after they beat you in practice. | ||
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desarrisc
Canada226 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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BathTubNZ
New Zealand2556 Posts
On September 21 2012 13:17 freeshooter wrote: Don't understand why Fnatic took the spot, why not another slayers player like Genius? It wasn't 'Fnatic' that took his spot, he was the top ranked Protoss on their Leader-board that they use to invite players into the league. | ||
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Oiseaux
United States676 Posts
On September 21 2012 13:35 Waxangel wrote: Medical was what they stuck on crank when he wanted to leave Whatever happened to benefit of the doubt? | ||
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 21 2012 14:22 Oiseaux wrote: Whatever happened to benefit of the doubt? flew out the window with SlayerS months ago. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25353 Posts
On September 21 2012 13:57 EtherealDeath wrote: Puzzle did consider quitting after the Kespa pros showed that they are already no chobos Is that actually true or just speculation? Get well soon Puzzle, such a solid playstyle and a player who really would have torn up foreign tournaments if he played more of them. Hopefully he still can! | ||
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Wafflelisk
Canada1061 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33390 Posts
On September 21 2012 13:57 EtherealDeath wrote: Puzzle did consider quitting after the Kespa pros showed that they are already no chobos In the context of the interview, it was almost certainly a joking comment at the time. If there was a more serious undercurrent, then that's interesting in hindsight. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
SAY IT AIN'T SO, GOD DAMNIT. | ||
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BlackPanther
United States872 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On September 21 2012 14:22 Oiseaux wrote: Whatever happened to benefit of the doubt? Don't be surprised when you see him in another team uniform soon. -_- On September 21 2012 14:20 BathTubNZ wrote: It wasn't 'Fnatic' that took his spot, he was the top ranked Protoss on their Leader-board that they use to invite players into the league. Yup, it has nothing to do with the team, but the player's performance. | ||
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FidoDido
United States1292 Posts
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HornyHydra
Taiwan222 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
I don't see any actual sources, or anyone credible claiming this yet. that isn't very funny liqupedia contributers -_- | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On September 21 2012 14:59 FidoDido wrote: meanwhile Mvp is playing with no wrists... lol stfu, this isn't a pity party to see who has the worst conditions for their career. MVP could be dying, and it still wouldn't change the fact that it's quite serious if Puzzle has to put a halt to his career. | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
Wink-wink. Nudge nudge. But he probably is ill. If he just wanted to leave Slayers, he could have done so without dropping out of GSL. Basically giving up your Code A spot and making so you need to qualify again is a huge commitment. He has to be either wanting to retire or actually sick. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On September 21 2012 15:13 stuchiu wrote: They did say on NASL it was pneumonia, so it seems legit. Did they say this during the broadcast? Was it included in an updated article by NASL that I haven't seen? I'd like these sort of things to be clear before putting them in a news headline instead of an ambiguous "source". | ||
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Dakkas
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On September 21 2012 14:28 Waxangel wrote: In the context of the interview, it was almost certainly a joking comment at the time. If there was a more serious undercurrent, then that's interesting in hindsight. Another Slayers player, Miya, said in an interview that Puzzle really was demoralized about his loss to the hero.join. Considering how a lot of other players who have lost to the Kespa players in WCS were all distraught, I'd say Puzzle really was pretty shattered | ||
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Greendotz
United Kingdom2053 Posts
On September 21 2012 15:15 Gamegene wrote: Did they say this during the broadcast? Was it included in an updated article by NASL that I haven't seen? I'd like these sort of things to be clear before putting them in a news headline instead of an ambiguous "source". Mr Bitter mentioned it was pneumonia on Wednesday's broadcast. Other than that though there doesn't appear to be any official conformation. We wish him all the best and hope for a speedy recovery. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
jk, this sucks, wow. poor puzzle (and slayers) | ||
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rainfable
United States171 Posts
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tyner
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Poiple
Australia13 Posts
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
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gosublade
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
But if it really were true, SlayerS always has some kind of medical problem... Crank (lol) being "injured" CoCa sick for Code A prelims now Puzzle. | ||
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Mr_Z
South Africa88 Posts
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
Oz is an awesome replacement though... | ||
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AzBozz
Germany518 Posts
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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Raamah
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On September 21 2012 16:28 Boonbag wrote: so many ppl seem to develop pneumonia in korea its crazy I don't think the air in Seoul is the cleanest in the world, Tastosis occasionally mention it. Pollution certainly doesn't cure many illnesses as far as I know... It's also VERY cold when it wants to be too. | ||
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TR
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birchman
Sweden393 Posts
Hope he gets better soon! | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On September 21 2012 16:31 Raamah wrote: I don't think the air in Seoul is the cleanest in the world, Tastosis occasionally mention it. Pollution certainly doesn't cure many illnesses as far as I know... It's also VERY cold when it wants to be too. it smells like a fucking sewer | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On September 21 2012 15:10 Fionn wrote: TSL needs another Protoss. Wink-wink. Nudge nudge. But he probably is ill. If he just wanted to leave Slayers, he could have done so without dropping out of GSL. Basically giving up your Code A spot and making so you need to qualify again is a huge commitment. He has to be either wanting to retire or actually sick. On September 21 2012 15:34 Greendotz wrote: Mr Bitter mentioned it was pneumonia on Wednesday's broadcast. Other than that though there doesn't appear to be any official conformation. We wish him all the best and hope for a speedy recovery. I think these 2 posts should be highlighted on the top of the page to cut down on the amount of Jessica speculation going on. I'm no fan of Jessica, but I think people should hold on and consider to the facts before jumping to speculations.. | ||
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Vandrad
Germany951 Posts
On September 21 2012 13:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: That's terrible news What's wrong with him in particular? Medical professionals? I hope whatever's wrong with him isn't permanent x.x Most likely wrists but could be anything I guess | ||
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Champi
1422 Posts
get well soon puzzle <3 | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
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MildSeven
Canada311 Posts
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Leetley
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On September 21 2012 17:34 MildSeven wrote: hope its something small and not a violet situation I'm quite sure it's not anything too major. But it's still enough to some doctor tell him that he shouldn't participate in tournaments... Maybe some semi-serious wrist injure or something. Edit: Oh, so it might be pneumonia. That really sucks. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
Hopefully he recovers quickly. | ||
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Cauldron
Finland125 Posts
Hope he gets well soon! | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
Want you to return and crush nerds some more as fast as possible  | ||
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Polygamy
Austria1114 Posts
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Sithril
Slovakia169 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
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Canada16217 Posts
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United States1373 Posts
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On the other hand was there recently a "breakthrough" within these area published just a couple of weeks ago were they showed that specific mixtures of different antibiotics frequently was potent against MRS bacteria. Well hopefully not the case here, get well Puzzle! | ||
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TheCreepyTerran
Sweden29 Posts
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
On September 21 2012 17:39 Leetley wrote: I'm quite sure it's not anything too major. But it's still enough to some doctor tell him that he shouldn't participate in tournaments... Maybe some semi-serious wrist injure or something. Edit: Oh, so it might be pneumonia. That really sucks. Shit, if it is pneumonia, I hope he recovers quickly. I know it can be a pretty serious problem. T_T Get well soon Puzzle. | ||
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Macabre
United States1262 Posts
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Lathund
Sweden95 Posts
On September 21 2012 13:34 delchuu wrote: If it's really "Pneumonia" then its nothing to joke about , hope he'll get's healthy soon again. I agree it's nothing to joke about, but for an otherwise healthy (I presume) young man in a country like Korea, he will most likely be back to full health soon. | ||
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Big-t
Austria1350 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
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aznball123
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hope he gets and feels better asap | ||
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Testuser
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I hope you get better! You've always been one of the players that I really liked ... sad to see you not well! | ||
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Antares_
Poland269 Posts
Btw. SlayerS now is the only team to have more "former players" than actual active players. | ||
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Uquu
Finland474 Posts
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herOartO
Denmark9 Posts
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B.I.G.
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On September 21 2012 19:52 Antares_ wrote: Medical problems = wants to switch a team, just like CranK? Btw. SlayerS now is the only team to have more "former players" than actual active players. Except for oGs xD | ||
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FILM
United States663 Posts
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
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Blacktion
United Kingdom1148 Posts
On September 21 2012 19:21 Lathund wrote: I agree it's nothing to joke about, but for an otherwise healthy (I presume) young man in a country like Korea, he will most likely be back to full health soon. Otherwise health people dont normally get Pneumonia, what is it with pro gamers and lung conditions, SC had all those problems a while back too. | ||
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Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On September 21 2012 20:48 Blacktion wrote: Otherwise health people dont normally get Pneumonia, what is it with pro gamers and lung conditions, SC had all those problems a while back too. progamers don't really get out that often and keep fit though (according to stereotypes) | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
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Rakett
Estonia10 Posts
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NuclearJudas
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BlackCloud
Canada154 Posts
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Zion9
Romania347 Posts
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ArcadeR
Germany199 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
Do you think its possible to do a thing like we did for DRG for puzzle? | ||
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Roth
Germany165 Posts
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Farmer Poopy
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On September 21 2012 13:17 freeshooter wrote: Don't understand why Fnatic took the spot, why not another slayers player like Genius? Oz may have been the next in line from their tournament point system. Get well Puzzle! | ||
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bayaka
Canada102 Posts
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
wishing him a speedy recovery! | ||
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
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Daehlie
United States43 Posts
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Butterednuts
United States859 Posts
Get well Puzzle though. | ||
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
I also hope he returns to SC2 when he's healthy again, he is a P I very much enjoy to watch. | ||
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Gianttt
Netherlands194 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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Bamm
Sweden279 Posts
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bosnia
Canada223 Posts
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iiGreetings
Canada563 Posts
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Hds
France200 Posts
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pewpew444
United States121 Posts
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BlueEagle
United Kingdom75 Posts
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
On September 21 2012 23:26 Aterons_toss wrote: This guys really need to stop training 12 hours a day, i hear way to much about "medical problems" nowadays. Tbh, people who work normal 9-5 jobs or even unemployed people have just as much medical problems. 12 hours a day is fine as long as regular breaks are taken and ergonomics are carefully considered (sitting on a comfortable chair properly, monitor at eye level). Another important factor is lifestyle, players need to eat properly, exercise regularly and sleep well. | ||
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INTOtheVOID
United States225 Posts
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
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ShowTheLights
Korea (South)1689 Posts
please get well | ||
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CeriseCherries
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
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Spectralx
United States198 Posts
On September 21 2012 13:14 Colonel.782 wrote: Some people in the NASL thread said that he has pneumonia. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=370205¤tpage=2#31 Oh no, I almost died because of Pneumonia. Ill be sending good thoughts. | ||
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Burns
United States2300 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Wounded31
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operwolf
United States324 Posts
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AceOfCakez
United States72 Posts
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
Get better soon Puzzle! Fighting! | ||
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-Switch-
Canada506 Posts
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Durenas
Canada45 Posts
On September 21 2012 13:17 freeshooter wrote: Don't understand why Fnatic took the spot, why not another slayers player like Genius? While I don't know the precise circumstances surrounding the choice, it seems to me most likely that they selected Oz because he was... next in line? These aren't team tournaments. In these tournaments, the individual is more important. | ||
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BombaySensei
United States282 Posts
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DanceSC
United States751 Posts
My favorite gamer T___T Get well soon Puzzl3 <3 | ||
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snively
United States1159 Posts
PROTOSS HOOOOPE | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On September 22 2012 08:17 snively wrote: noooo puzzle!! PROTOSS HOOOOPE You realize that the last Champion was a Protoss player, right? And that the Finals was a PvP? | ||
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
On September 22 2012 09:21 dabom88 wrote: You realize that the last Champion was a Protoss player, right? And that the Finals was a PvP? LOL so true. | ||
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SpaceFighting
New Zealand690 Posts
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Logic.jake
United States37 Posts
actually really stoked to see Oz ! | ||
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di4m0nd
United States297 Posts
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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nqqvt3
Canada55 Posts
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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Kamwah
United Kingdom724 Posts
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Lathund
Sweden95 Posts
On September 21 2012 20:48 Blacktion wrote: Otherwise health people dont normally get Pneumonia, what is it with pro gamers and lung conditions, SC had all those problems a while back too. It's certainly more common among infants, elderly and immunocompromised, but it can affect just about anyone. Including otherwise perfectly healthy people. The severity of the disease differs a lot though. IIRC sC had Pneumothorax, which is an unrelated condition. | ||
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D4V3Z02
Germany693 Posts
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YungLee
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IceFire
United States183 Posts
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baconftw
Denmark45 Posts
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delHospital
Poland261 Posts
Get well, Puzzle | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Torvaltz
United States188 Posts
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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TriZen
England219 Posts
Hopefully Kim's condition isn't bad and it is just a basic case, taking precautions that are very well needed no matter how bad it is.It's a good sign that he's getting treatment and strong recommendations from the medical staff: it really would be impossible for him to participate even if released in time, he just has to concentrate on himself right now and progressing back to full health. Best of luck Kim Sang Jun I'm sure he'll be fine :D | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
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SuperYo1000
United States880 Posts
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Niten
United States598 Posts
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United States777 Posts
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United States10 Posts
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xHadoken
United States171 Posts
hope for the best! | ||
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FXOBoSs
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SuperYo1000
United States880 Posts
On September 23 2012 15:20 FXOBoSs wrote: Cella informed me that Puzzle has the same condition as sC could you elaborate? | ||
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Alstroemeria
99 Posts
Puzzle is probably suffering from a collapsed lung caused by Pneumothorax, which is what Sc has or had. It requires surgery. | ||
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SuperYo1000
United States880 Posts
On September 23 2012 15:30 Alstroemeria wrote: Puzzle is probably suffering from a collapsed lung caused by Pneumothorax, which is what Sc has or had. It requires surgery. oh man thats horrible | ||
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myRZeth
Germany1047 Posts
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droken
Sweden126 Posts
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On September 23 2012 15:30 Alstroemeria wrote: Puzzle is probably suffering from a collapsed lung caused by Pneumothorax, which is what Sc has or had. It requires surgery. Not in all cases, depends on the severity and scale of it. A pneumothorax under 15% often doesn't require any actual treatment, merely observation. | ||
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Gyro_SC2
Canada540 Posts
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LuckyLuke43
Norway169 Posts
On September 23 2012 15:30 Alstroemeria wrote: Puzzle is probably suffering from a collapsed lung caused by Pneumothorax, which is what Sc has or had. It requires surgery. Pneumothorax is by definition 'a collapsed lung'. It's not something causing lungs to collapse. ;p OT: You don't just get a Pneumothorax.. Most likely he would've had to break a rib and have it pierce his pleura? But that's, pretty unlikely, unless he was doing something where this would've been plausible. My point being that you don't just get a Pneumothorax from walking down the street ;> SO, elaborate if you can please! Oh and get well Puz<3 | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On September 24 2012 03:58 LuckyLuke43 wrote: Pneumothorax is by definition 'a collapsed lung'. It's not something causing lungs to collapse. ;p OT: You don't just get a Pneumothorax.. Most likely he would've had to break a rib and have it pierce his pleura? But that's, pretty unlikely, unless he was doing something where this would've been plausible. My point being that you don't just get a Pneumothorax from walking down the street ;> SO, elaborate if you can please! Oh and get well Puz<3 You can actually get a pneumothorax without any trauma, most notably with emphysema. There are people who get spontaneous pneumothorax, most of them are young male thin and very tall (reminds you of someone?). http://cirugiadetorax.org/2012/02/08/blebs-bullae-and-spontaneous-pneumothorax/ | ||
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LuckyLuke43
Norway169 Posts
On September 24 2012 04:09 Diavlo wrote: You can actually get a pneumothorax without any trauma, most notably with emphysema. There are people who get spontaneous pneumothorax, most of them are young male thin and very tall (reminds you of someone?). http://cirugiadetorax.org/2012/02/08/blebs-bullae-and-spontaneous-pneumothorax/ If you get a Pneumothorax caused by "emphysema"(I'm guessing you're talking about a mediastinal emphysema(pneumomediastinum?), then that is a severe trauma I'll have you know ;P And for spontaneous pneumothorax, those are quite rare ;P | ||
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EnderSword
Canada669 Posts
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Freezd
United States139 Posts
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On September 24 2012 04:26 LuckyLuke43 wrote: If you get a Pneumothorax caused by "emphysema"(I'm guessing you're talking about a mediastinal emphysema(pneumomediastinum?), then that is a severe trauma I'll have you know ;P And for spontaneous pneumothorax, those are quite rare ;P I mean emphysema, the chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. And no, spontaneous pneumothorax are not particularly frequent, but that's what Sc was suffering from, if Cella says that Puzzle is suffering from the same thing, i tend to believe him. | ||
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Wedge
Canada580 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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KookyMonster
United States311 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On September 24 2012 10:12 Wedge wrote: God, hope its not serious. I think the only way it could get more serious would be if he was suffering from a fatal bout of decapitation there buddy... | ||
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jyuj
Australia103 Posts
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bartus88
Netherlands491 Posts
On September 24 2012 12:12 Dosey wrote: A reliable poster comments to reveal that Puzzle may have a rare condition that caused him to suffer a collapsed lung and we proceed to see comments like this (on the very same page of said comment): I think the only way it could get more serious would be if he was suffering from a fatal bout of decapitation there buddy... This post makes no sense at all. First of all, although pneumothorax is no laughing matter at all, there are plenty of medical conditions that are more serious than this. Secondly, why are you belittling someone who simply did not read the last page? Threads like this are mostly filled with useless posts that simply say "Get well soon" or something like that, so you can't really blame him for only reading the OP. | ||
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ArtOfStyLe
Germany51 Posts
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IMPeRIuMx
Canada19 Posts
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DontNerfInfestors
Spain280 Posts
I say:I hope you get better | ||
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Onionkebab
Denmark26 Posts
Can someone confirm what happened to him? Status etc? | ||
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
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PardonYou
United States1360 Posts
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
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rshswe
Sweden40 Posts
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Boyscout
United States15 Posts
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Germany27 Posts
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gplayer
Romania106 Posts
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Xulton
United States10 Posts
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herrmus
Sweden144 Posts
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Cronicus
Sweden28 Posts
Puzzel fighting! | ||
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
On September 24 2012 03:58 LuckyLuke43 wrote: Pneumothorax is by definition 'a collapsed lung'. It's not something causing lungs to collapse. ;p OT: You don't just get a Pneumothorax.. Most likely he would've had to break a rib and have it pierce his pleura? But that's, pretty unlikely, unless he was doing something where this would've been plausible. My point being that you don't just get a Pneumothorax from walking down the street ;> SO, elaborate if you can please! Oh and get well Puz<3 In most cases it's caused by something like a rib fracture, previous surgery around that area, or just a really bad wound. maybe even asthma or pollution in the air. But if he doesn't have any of these it's possible that it's just spontaneous pneumothorax. Does anyone know if pneumothorax is common in Korea? Maybe the air in SK is cluttered with fumes and gases. Which could also be a cause. Who knows though. I hope for a swift recovery!! | ||
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