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Stop derailing with living cost talk

On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote:
Press Release:

http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012

Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com.

- Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote:
http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims

- Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
September 12 2012 18:50 GMT
#41
Technically though, the fact that they are trying to protect their methods with the 10 year thing, is used similarely in many businesses(you cant be involved with old customer, or join competing companies, but then you get a small compensation though).
I would really like to know the more exact phrasing of that part tbh, just saying that ''it basicly means'' isn't enough for me
Hell, it's about time
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
September 12 2012 18:50 GMT
#42
wow that sounds pretty messed up man they should have just gave your money back if you spent hardly any time there, seems like they were really bitter about you going public.
savior did nothing wrong
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 12 2012 18:50 GMT
#43
I need confirmation on this, but damn, if all true it's quite bad.

If the person who posted this was some nobody I wouldn't give a shit but Fuzer isn't.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
BongChambers
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada591 Posts
September 12 2012 18:50 GMT
#44
Wow totally lost all my respect for anything that has to do with MoW... Like I thought this was set up by "pro-gamers for pro-gamers" a bunch of freindly individuals wanting to have the Korena experanice...

This sounds like some sort of slave camp where shit is hidden between the lines and the "boss" acting like a used car sales man.

Pathetic.
420
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2373 Posts
September 12 2012 18:50 GMT
#45
I couldn't live without vegetables. (^_^)
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
September 12 2012 18:51 GMT
#46
As much as this makes me wanna hate MoW, I wanna see their response before rushing to conclusions.
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iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
September 12 2012 18:51 GMT
#47
Those clauses in the contract are beyond crazy. Considering how many players are at MoW (I have no idea) 600euro + a cut of stream revenue just seems beyond greedy.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Heathen
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines351 Posts
September 12 2012 18:51 GMT
#48
Hmm we should ask the other people in the house. Come on there are alot of big names there. they should have something to say.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
September 12 2012 18:51 GMT
#49
On September 13 2012 03:48 pallad wrote:
WHAT ??? "Can't be a part of another gaming house for 10 years... " I cant be true.. players like Sage , Ret , Morrow will NEVER sign something like that , its impossible. I cant belive it ...

@edit


Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 03:47 monkh wrote:
You totally did the right thing coming out with this. I'm surprised some of the players like Ret even signed a contract like that.


Thats why dont belive it. Its like pro gamming suicide


i wouldn't be surprised if the more known players got more lenient and beneficial contracts
savior did nothing wrong
StimiLant
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States534 Posts
September 12 2012 18:51 GMT
#50
glad this has been shown in light, TY Fuzer~!
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
September 12 2012 18:51 GMT
#51
And Destiny is going over there, right? Hmm...
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
September 12 2012 18:51 GMT
#52
Can't be a part of another gaming house for 10 years? HOW stupid isn't that? They have no rights to do that at all. What can they possibly do lol? IF this is true this is very bad publicity for MoW and how they handle everything there.

Not good MoW.. This is just ... bad.... And you guys actually stole his money? really.....
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
September 12 2012 18:51 GMT
#53
while it sucks to see this, let this also be a lesson... make sure all contracts agreements are formalised and signed etc before anyone has a chance to benefit from the partnership.

ie, giving money before a contract was signed.
or letting someone stay in your house before signing a contract.

Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
September 12 2012 18:52 GMT
#54
This pisses me off so much, I can't imagine how you felt. I know this is just your side of the story but I sympathize with you.
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
September 12 2012 18:52 GMT
#55
12 players. 7200 euro/mo for rent PLUS a cut of a minimum of 60 hours of their streaming profits DAILY.

Better be feeding them hella good...

oh wait
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
September 12 2012 18:52 GMT
#56
On September 13 2012 03:51 Zealos wrote:
As much as this makes me wanna hate MoW, I wanna see their response before rushing to conclusions.


Yeh.. everyone there says that house is supebrb.. even past residents.
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
September 12 2012 18:52 GMT
#57
This is crazy, I'm happy for you that you didn't sign the contract.
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 12 2012 18:52 GMT
#58
On September 13 2012 03:51 EleanorRIgby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 03:48 pallad wrote:
WHAT ??? "Can't be a part of another gaming house for 10 years... " I cant be true.. players like Sage , Ret , Morrow will NEVER sign something like that , its impossible. I cant belive it ...

@edit


On September 13 2012 03:47 monkh wrote:
You totally did the right thing coming out with this. I'm surprised some of the players like Ret even signed a contract like that.


Thats why dont belive it. Its like pro gamming suicide


i wouldn't be surprised if the more known players got more lenient and beneficial contracts


You've got a point, I just want to know what's going on.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
September 12 2012 18:52 GMT
#59
Good job making this public, too few people have the balls to bring shit like this to the surface because they are afraid that they wont get the money or have a disadvantage in the future!
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Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
September 12 2012 18:52 GMT
#60
I could see a 6 month or maybe even a 1 year agreement not to move into another teams house. Seems reasonable for a team to have some kind of binding contract to a player. But 10 years, wtf? How is any player who leaves this house supposed to continue a progaming career?

You pay to live there, there isn't enough food, there is nothing in place to help a person balance there life. Just sleep, eat, play, all the time is not great for a players physical or mental health, and will not produce the best results. Even the pro Korean teams have scheduled team exercise (even if it's just light activities and stretching) and team recreation events. I've seen some videos of the Korean teams having soccer matches against other teams.

Then to pressure you to sign it before you can have a lawyer review it, because english is a second language to you, on top of kicking you out and denying a refund for services not provided? This seems very shady to me. I wonder if anyone else can confirm this, these are serious accusations.
:)
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